Very many thanks, Giancarlo. I heard the Cooke 'Performing Version' pretty much as soon as it appeared on record. Since then I've heard (I think) two other versions. I want to re-listen to both, or all three, in light of what you said. As to that drum - a shock, a total disruption, completely unexpected and devastating. Cuts across life itself, compels a different view. Strike that drum with fury and anger! A near - but not quite - mortal blow. I'm thinking of a couple of events in my own life that were as unexpectedly disruptive. I can feel that drum as an event. I've been an (im)perfect Mahlerite since late teenage - now sixty years back. I find his music as fresh as ever. Thanks to Lenny Bernstein's 1961 recording of Mahler 3.
Couldn't agree with you more June like all the Mahler symphonies he is my favourite composer i heard his 1st symphony away back in 1979 in a concert on the the radio from the the royal festival hall in London with the Detroit symphony orchestra then under their conductor antal dorati and it was my first time listening to classical music on the radio and has been ever since and Mahler's 1st symphony is always been my favourite of his symphonies even though i listened to the rest of them in later years and have a fondness for Mahler's 10th symphony in the performing version by deryck Cooke especially Simon rattle and the Bournemouth symphony orchestra from 1980 and his later version with the berliner philharmoniker in 1999.
If you have not heard Kurt Sanderling's recording of the Cooke Version with his Berlin Symphony Orchestra. then you simply MUST. It is currently available on the Berlin Classics CD label. I believe you should also be able to hear this 1979 recording out here in RUclips land. Sanderling uses the revised Cooke score of 1976 as his basis, and with Berthold Goldschmidt's absolute approval and blessing, Kurt added some smaller additional touches of his own, which make the score sound even more like Mahler. It is quite simply, the most overwhelming Cooke Mahler 10 performance I have ever experienced. It is simply extraordinary! You may want to check out David Hurwitz's RUclips video entitled: "Mahler's Problematic Tenth Symphony", where at the end of the video, he gives Kurt Sanderling's recording it's highest praise.
I have been obsessed with Mahler for years. I am a singer and have sung Mahler’s songs but his symphonies send me to new realms. Every once in a while i have to listen to all of my recordings of all of his symphonies. The rondo in his 9th with the incredible fugue was a discovery i hadn’t made before. But his 10th i only have 1 recording of it (simon Rattle) and i have listened to it several times and just can’t get enough of it. Thank you so much for such wonderful information about mahler’s 10th. I am enraptured! Thank you! And thank you for showing Mahler’s actual notes. Means so much to me!!! I like the very LOUD drum!!! Only way to do it!
I feel like the 10th is a perfect final destination for the Mahler experience. He also wrote it down almost as if it was meant to be finished by someone else but i do not know how he sketched and worked/developed his other works. The personal messages written in the score are quite interesting. About the bass drum: I would work with the percussionist and give him some creative freedom under my guidance, but in my opinion, it sounds like a frustrated bang of the fist or your head on a wooden table or wall, despair as one might interpret from the personal messages written in the score. I have seen some orchestras putting cloth over the bass drum and i like the sound it makes ffff!
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Very many thanks, Giancarlo. I heard the Cooke 'Performing Version' pretty much as soon as it appeared on record. Since then I've heard (I think) two other versions. I want to re-listen to both, or all three, in light of what you said. As to that drum - a shock, a total disruption, completely unexpected and devastating. Cuts across life itself, compels a different view. Strike that drum with fury and anger! A near - but not quite - mortal blow. I'm thinking of a couple of events in my own life that were as unexpectedly disruptive. I can feel that drum as an event. I've been an (im)perfect Mahlerite since late teenage - now sixty years back. I find his music as fresh as ever. Thanks to Lenny Bernstein's 1961 recording of Mahler 3.
Couldn't agree with you more June like all the Mahler symphonies he is my favourite composer i heard his 1st symphony away back in 1979 in a concert on the the radio from the the royal festival hall in London with the Detroit symphony orchestra then under their conductor antal dorati and it was my first time listening to classical music on the radio and has been ever since and Mahler's 1st symphony is always been my favourite of his symphonies even though i listened to the rest of them in later years and have a fondness for Mahler's 10th symphony in the performing version by deryck Cooke especially Simon rattle and the Bournemouth symphony orchestra from 1980 and his later version with the berliner philharmoniker in 1999.
My GOD… that trumpet SCREAMING………. I’m a trombone player and nothing has ever made my cry so hard
If you have not heard Kurt Sanderling's recording of the Cooke Version with his Berlin Symphony Orchestra. then you simply MUST. It is currently available on the Berlin Classics CD label. I believe you should also be able to hear this 1979 recording out here in RUclips land. Sanderling uses the revised Cooke score of 1976 as his basis, and with Berthold Goldschmidt's absolute approval and blessing, Kurt added some smaller additional touches of his own, which make the score sound even more like Mahler. It is quite simply, the most overwhelming Cooke Mahler 10 performance I have ever experienced. It is simply extraordinary! You may want to check out David Hurwitz's RUclips video entitled: "Mahler's Problematic Tenth Symphony", where at the end of the video, he gives Kurt Sanderling's recording it's highest praise.
I have been obsessed with Mahler for years. I am a singer and have sung Mahler’s songs but his symphonies send me to new realms. Every once in a while i have to listen to all of my recordings of all of his symphonies. The rondo in his 9th with the incredible fugue was a discovery i hadn’t made before. But his 10th i only have 1 recording of it (simon Rattle) and i have listened to it several times and just can’t get enough of it. Thank you so much for such wonderful information about mahler’s 10th. I am enraptured! Thank you! And thank you for showing Mahler’s actual notes. Means so much to me!!! I like the very LOUD drum!!! Only way to do it!
I feel like the 10th is a perfect final destination for the Mahler experience. He also wrote it down almost as if it was meant to be finished by someone else but i do not know how he sketched and worked/developed his other works. The personal messages written in the score are quite interesting. About the bass drum: I would work with the percussionist and give him some creative freedom under my guidance, but in my opinion, it sounds like a frustrated bang of the fist or your head on a wooden table or wall, despair as one might interpret from the personal messages written in the score. I have seen some orchestras putting cloth over the bass drum and i like the sound it makes ffff!
I'd play the fourth movement/finale drum stroke once, loud - and offstage. That way it's both intense and muffled.