@@donnaburden.dip.d.analysis2148 I believe I have 7 as well. All of the major ones except KJV and AMP. But I have a parallel bible with The Message in it. I also have an Interlinear Bible.
As a new believer, I really appreciate this video. I saw this translation on my Amazon feed the other day, but didn't get it until I knew more about it. Thank you for the warning and explanation. Have a Blessed day! 🙏💜
Im currently reading the LSB, which is basically an updated nasb. My first read through of the bible was the NIV...the 1984 version, not the current. I really enjoyed the HCSB and the NKJV. I like the esv as well. I have a lot of translations, but some have too small of a font. I need to update those, but it's hard finding the hcsb in large print
Just catching up with this vid. Great work! And FYI Craig Groeschel (YouVersion creator) has moved more toward “Progressive Christianity”. Just look at the people chosen to do the daily Bible reading videos, like Christine Caine, who is hard Progressive. I’m thinking of finding an alternative app.
Modern day Joseph Smith wow. I bought a small one. Went through it read some verse's I like. Thank you for these informative video 😊 I didn't care for the translation it gave . I personal do not like this book . I can throw this book in the trash and not feel guilty about it. Doesn't even come close to being true . I will stick with (and never throw away ) are: New King James New American Standard New International Version Revised Standard Version And a couple of others The one Bible I have on hand for verifying all Bibles is The King James Bible , this is a hard book for me to read , so I prefer the other's,at the same time I want accuracy.😊
This feels like the beginnings of an offshoot of the mormon religion lol. And i wrote this in the first 3 minutes of the video....only to find that i was right😂
Satan keeps using the same trick because it keeps working... Take the Joseph Smith mythos and replace "Moroni" with "Passion", poof, you've got Brian Simmons' story.
@wendycoop I'm not a paraphrase bible reader by no means but I would gladly read the NLT over the message or passion hands down. I stay up as close to word for word in my studies. Commentaries are Reformed/Puritan.
@@heisrisen9855 The NLT is a translation, not a paraphrase. It was created by over 100 top notch scholars. Some very sound pastors such as Chuck Swindoll and Greg Laurie use it as their main translation. You may be thinking of it's progenitor, The Living Bible, which was a paraphrase.
It would have been nice to hear your opinion on this matter as you Have such a nice voice, but showing too much flesh can be a distraction. God bless you. I will check out dizz?!
All these "books" used to be scrolls in jars and they would pick them out and read them, there was no cannon and they read whatever scrolls were there. Only when the codex was invented did they need a cannon. The bible is an anthology of books not just one book It is separated by authorship and by time. Revelation does not say anything about adding to or taking away form the whole _Bible_ it just addresses itself as a book. Also it is possible that that particular passage is a redaction or edit by a well meaning person after the fact. ruclips.net/video/dtQ2TS1CiDY/видео.html&ab_channel=YaleCourses
Hi Wendy. I've seen the Passion Bible debate. Noticed that I did not say Passion Translation. It's because it's a paraphrase Bible. Dizzy is right to say that. I've also read the Message. For me, I don't bother either one. Of the paraphrase, I'd be more worried about the Mirror before worrying about the Passion. I've been hearing bad stuff about it. For study purposes, I prefer the NASB '95. However, I'm finding that my viewers prefer the NLT because it is more understandable to young believers. Why is that? It's because young believers are intimidated by the word for word translations or develop a bad taste in their mouth. Looking at you, KJV! What can be done about the Passion? For one, it should never be given to new or young believers or Christians with little to no understanding about translations. Once in a great while, I will poke my head in the Passion; however, it is only to take a peek. It's not suitable for study or Bible teaching on RUclips or elsewhere.
Thank you Barry! I prefer to give the NLT to new believers/those new to studying the Bible. Between that and the NIV they should be able to understand the Bible.
First, I personally don't care for paraphrases, but there's a lot of criticism here for the Message. The passion "translation" is as you said, heretical. But Eugene Petersen, the author of the Message, was a Godly man. He never claimed the Message was a translation. He made it perfectly clear from the beginning that he was creating a paraphrase and that the Message was not the actual Word of God. He was very sound theologically. The Message does not deserve to be discussed in the same perspective as the passion "translation," which doesn't have as much value as toilet paper.
I don't know about heretical, but you do have the right idea @markyearty6717. Eugene Peterson had the right idea to call it a "paraphrase" and left it as that. It most certainly is one and read like a series of mini sermons. As for Brian Simmon, he should of don the same in the spirit of humility. That's the one I did not agree with him doing.
@@bibleandthegeek It was just a thought that came to me when you was talking about "passion bible". The devil tries to get to to us in many ways to deceive us. So who knows what was happening to that person that night.
The passion and the message are definitely not translations. The same with NWT. None of those are worth spending money on. I tried a bunch of modern translations after many years of not reading the bible, and most of them felt very subpar to the KJV and NKJV. But I did like the ESV and the NASB95 a bit. I dont trust many translations since learning how much they are being changed with each revision. I like the current ESV for the most part, but with a new revision imminent, who knows what it will end up like. I have to stay with the KJV and NKJV since there won't be any revisions done of those.
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I have 7 translations. What about you, Wendy? Xx
@@donnaburden.dip.d.analysis2148 I believe I have 7 as well. All of the major ones except KJV and AMP. But I have a parallel bible with The Message in it. I also have an Interlinear Bible.
I'm a little late to this one but I'm grateful for you. Keep up the great work, sister! God bless you!
Thank you for your heard work and humor in the original video. God bless!
Thank you so much. It’s very helpful.
Thank you for addressing this!!! Bless you , Sister!
You are so welcome!
The Living Bible always said it was a paraphrase for his children. However the NLT had a huge team of translators
As a new believer, I really appreciate this video. I saw this translation on my Amazon feed the other day, but didn't get it until I knew more about it. Thank you for the warning and explanation. Have a Blessed day! 🙏💜
Glad it was helpful! Like I said in the video, I was taken in by it too!
Whenever someone says they are the only ones that know something that is a red flag
Huge!
Yep. Gnosticism (not you).
I agree with you. I threw my copy in the trash. I only read it a couple times. It just didn’t feel right with my spirit.
I have many Bibles however, I never bought the Passion Translation. I would have never dreamed any of this was his background. THANK YOU 🙏
You're welcome! I actually have a copy upstairs and I don't know what to do with it, lol!
Im currently reading the LSB, which is basically an updated nasb. My first read through of the bible was the NIV...the 1984 version, not the current. I really enjoyed the HCSB and the NKJV. I like the esv as well. I have a lot of translations, but some have too small of a font. I need to update those, but it's hard finding the hcsb in large print
Just catching up with this vid. Great work! And FYI Craig Groeschel (YouVersion creator) has moved more toward “Progressive Christianity”. Just look at the people chosen to do the daily Bible reading videos, like Christine Caine, who is hard Progressive. I’m thinking of finding an alternative app.
True, he is very good friends with Andy Stanley which says a lot.
I’m always skeptical of single person translations. They have no checks and balances.
Truly!
Modern day Joseph Smith wow.
I bought a small one.
Went through it read some verse's I like.
Thank you for these informative video 😊
I didn't care for the translation it gave .
I personal do not like this book .
I can throw this book in the trash and not feel guilty about it.
Doesn't even come close to being true .
I will stick with (and never throw away ) are:
New King James
New American Standard
New International Version
Revised Standard Version
And a couple of others
The one Bible I have on hand for verifying all Bibles is
The King James Bible , this is a hard book for me to read , so I prefer the other's,at the same time I want accuracy.😊
As a translator, this is not a translation… it is a joke….
KJV is like the best and worse translation at the same time. The poetic language is epic but the precision of communication is just not there.
The NLT looks at the message and says "what????" 😂
lol
Who had no linguistic training? Any leader of a cult ever….
This feels like the beginnings of an offshoot of the mormon religion lol. And i wrote this in the first 3 minutes of the video....only to find that i was right😂
Satan keeps using the same trick because it keeps working... Take the Joseph Smith mythos and replace "Moroni" with "Passion", poof, you've got Brian Simmons' story.
Also, the Message. All you need to do is go to the Lords prayer in Matthew and read that. It definitely is also an abomination to God's Holy Word.
I have about 10 translations
Wow! Impressive!
I haven’t compared the two on that respect. Good call!
@wendycoop I'm not a paraphrase bible reader by no means but I would gladly read the NLT over the message or passion hands down. I stay up as close to word for word in my studies. Commentaries are Reformed/Puritan.
@@heisrisen9855 The NLT is a translation, not a paraphrase. It was created by over 100 top notch scholars. Some very sound pastors such as Chuck Swindoll and Greg Laurie use it as their main translation. You may be thinking of it's progenitor, The Living Bible, which was a paraphrase.
It would have been nice to hear your opinion on this matter as you Have such a nice voice, but showing too much flesh can be a distraction. God bless you. I will check out dizz?!
Thank you!
For me the Message is worst than the Passion, atleast the Passion uses a text, but the Message???????????
I see what you’re saying!
Doesn’t revelation, warn people to not take away or add anything to the Bible?
All these "books" used to be scrolls in jars and they would pick them out and read them, there was no cannon and they read whatever scrolls were there. Only when the codex was invented did they need a cannon. The bible is an anthology of books not just one book It is separated by authorship and by time. Revelation does not say anything about adding to or taking away form the whole _Bible_ it just addresses itself as a book. Also it is possible that that particular passage is a redaction or edit by a well meaning person after the fact.
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@@mugglescakesniffer3943thank you.
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Hi Wendy. I've seen the Passion Bible debate. Noticed that I did not say Passion Translation. It's because it's a paraphrase Bible. Dizzy is right to say that. I've also read the Message. For me, I don't bother either one. Of the paraphrase, I'd be more worried about the Mirror before worrying about the Passion. I've been hearing bad stuff about it.
For study purposes, I prefer the NASB '95. However, I'm finding that my viewers prefer the NLT because it is more understandable to young believers. Why is that? It's because young believers are intimidated by the word for word translations or develop a bad taste in their mouth. Looking at you, KJV!
What can be done about the Passion? For one, it should never be given to new or young believers or Christians with little to no understanding about translations. Once in a great while, I will poke my head in the Passion; however, it is only to take a peek. It's not suitable for study or Bible teaching on RUclips or elsewhere.
I don't think this is a 'paraphrase" it is clearly false teaching.
Thank you Barry! I prefer to give the NLT to new believers/those new to studying the Bible. Between that and the NIV they should be able to understand the Bible.
Too many to count, but a lot of them are non-English.
Hi Wendy is good to be here😅
Hey! Good to see you over here! How's the challenge going for you?
Never even heard of this lol
I was first introduced to it a couple of years ago.
First, I personally don't care for paraphrases, but there's a lot of criticism here for the Message. The passion "translation" is as you said, heretical. But Eugene Petersen, the author of the Message, was a Godly man. He never claimed the Message was a translation. He made it perfectly clear from the beginning that he was creating a paraphrase and that the Message was not the actual Word of God. He was very sound theologically. The Message does not deserve to be discussed in the same perspective as the passion "translation," which doesn't have as much value as toilet paper.
Thank you for your thoughts on The Message. I wasn't trying to say it was equal to TPT so I apologize for any confusion.
I don't know about heretical, but you do have the right idea @markyearty6717. Eugene Peterson had the right idea to call it a "paraphrase" and left it as that. It most certainly is one and read like a series of mini sermons. As for Brian Simmon, he should of don the same in the spirit of humility. That's the one I did not agree with him doing.
Maybe this is the devil's work. Who knows.
You could be right.
@@bibleandthegeek It was just a thought that came to me when you was talking about "passion bible". The devil tries to get to to us in many ways to deceive us. So who knows what was happening to that person that night.
@@virginiablair7812 Oh for sure!
The passion and the message are definitely not translations. The same with NWT. None of those are worth spending money on. I tried a bunch of modern translations after many years of not reading the bible, and most of them felt very subpar to the KJV and NKJV. But I did like the ESV and the NASB95 a bit. I dont trust many translations since learning how much they are being changed with each revision. I like the current ESV for the most part, but with a new revision imminent, who knows what it will end up like. I have to stay with the KJV and NKJV since there won't be any revisions done of those.