The Soviets felt bad for the French so they purposely put weak spots on for the 2c and ordered soldiers to stop shooting if they see one to make the French feel better
Fun fact about that periscope, it spins around not in an effort to block the bullet, but to make it so the thin slats that restrict bullets from getting through do not matter as much, as they'd be going fast enough around to see through the tiny gaps as if it were a rolling shutter. It'd also be nearly 360 degrees of view as well which matters a lot when going over a trench where infantry can try to rush the tank.
Yeah, I know it's a throwaway line, but the stroboscope worked fine--for bullets. It would have to be huge to deflect more modern cannon shells, and modern ww2 periscopes were almost as good with no weakspots and required no motor, gearshaft, etc to turn it. It doesn't scale up.
That periscope if it rotates faster than 12 rotations per second can assure a clear, yet flickering, vision all around. At 24fps you got yourself the perfect view of the battlefield and still get some armor protection for your head.
I think realistically, you'd end up with some bullet shrapnel if you got hit, and "hit enough times" = higher chance of shrapnel hitting you. But the core concept worked.
It doesn't spin to stop bullets.Well sort of it spins to create a full 360 view so you aren't restricted by a set amount of view ports. It's the Zoe-trope effect.
My favorrite thing about this tank is that it can block off the tunnel on Frozen Pass if you manage to get it sideways, You can just park one and J out and deny the enemy team their easy access into the tunnel unless they want to workout how to unjam the behemoth of a tank
@@fennikk2433 pretty nice. You can in fact deny access to the tunnel, but you are pretty late to the scene. When playing in arcade, you can also play as a mortar, and shoot tanks without even being seen. 10/10, would recommend 😂
That spinning periscope thing is very cool! I remember in BF1 (in which the Char is a "beheamoth") you could get in them to use the MGs. They actually animated the effect. Apparently the spinning is not for the peepholes to dodge out of the way of the bullets matrix-style, but to make a tiny tiny slit more like a wide vision thanks to how human eyes don't take moment-by-moment shots and more smear everything together. Pretty cool!
you should play the japanese Ho-I. It is at 2.0, basically a Chi-Hu hull with a short 75mm and 15 deg gundep. And 480g of explosive in APHE. On top of that, it has a good HEAT shell, and a very effective HE as well (12mm pen, so you can shoot the top of the turret of Panzer 3 and 4 tanks to overpressure them)
@@commandergeokam2868 yep, one of my favorite tank. truly a hidden gem, it is so good, when you see a tiny bit of the enemy engin area, shoot there, and the shell just overpressures. it can completly oneshot a char2c by shooting it's cupola xd
Always good to remember that these behemoths were built at the end of WW1, gotta be fair to them when comparing them to most of the vehicles they fight against in War Thunder that were built during WW2 (or in some cases later).
It would be nice if there was a stat for “hits received in vehicle 1, 2, etc” There are times where I have wondered how many shells I shrugged off and would have loved to see the total amount at the end of the match
@@ihatehandleupdate Nope. Check the levels of the players. It's mainly level 50+. That's because they play this BR out of fun. Low level players want to get at fast as possible to higher BRs or are still in the bot-phase.
Yeah, the Commander is supposed to get an shutter effect, like as if he would look through an open hatch. Nothing for people suffering epilepsy, probably...
0:25 a bullet can't fit through the gaps. the idea was that it would spin so that the commander could see through the fast moving gaps, making an effect of there being nothing.
The spinning was probably for aimed fire at the vision ports. Kinda like that arcade game where you stop the wheel to get the prize. Looking out the ports optically you can see through like looking through a fan
It's little brother, the 2c Bis isn't too bad either. 1.5 br lower than the 2c but it's the same tank but with a 155mm howitzer instead of the 75. It obliterates anything that isn't heavy
Fun video suggestion, if you play with someone else and you both play the Catalina with the naval mines, you can kill all bases and the airfield without rearming.
I love the 2C so damn much. From the gun depression to the 300+ kilograms of explosive mass (following the semi-recent buff of it's gun and APHE shell), its hard to have a bad time in games that don't end before you can reach the battleground.
I can see in to the future I’m seeing odd ripping and tearing through the enemy team alone in a TOG II and having the time of his life (once they add that tank into the game) or other ridiculous super heavies like Kv4 or kv5
The point about periscope is that there is no real holes bullet can exploit. Enough tiny slits with high revs act like a fan: you can see through it, it's just darker. And, since you get big area for light to find a way, the effect is not harsh enough to make things too dark to see.
I post up in bushes, with a small slit to hit me between buildings with a clear field of fire, and get nuked from 12 years away, you go sailing around in the land yacht and destroy god, creation, and everything in the universe while the War Thunder Legion for the Blind drives around on the other team. Make it make sense!
The Tog 2 of WT. Slow, massive, has poor handling but! Can take a strangely heavy beating, has a good gun and makes people laugh and have fun for some inexplicable reason. I assume this all means that a 2C group will do in WT what a tog group will do in wot, and omnom everything that comes at them.
This is the polar oppposite of being ina 2 man tank where any machine gun strafing will wipe out the entire crew. This tank you have to mail separate packages to each of the 12 crew members who live in separate timezones
The 2c (and it's big gun premium bro the 2c bis) are delightful low-tier big chonker lineholder tanks. Main guns on both are always a threat to anything near it's BR (as you saw, even when it needs a creative hatch shot), and it's damn hard to finish one off without beating it's massive crew to death.
This tank is like a reverse Merkava lol, instead of the tank being designed for maximum crew protection and survivability, it is essentially fueled by bodies of crewmen.
it is so true with the survivability. I have taken the premium version up to higher tiers and it takes a good 5-8 shells to kill me, unless they hit ammo of course.
When you want to support a behemoth, there are some do's and don't's. Don't lollygag around beside the advancing heavy, only to rush up in the face of the first group of enemies you encounter. You could have done that from the start, and saved time, and maybe one of your fellow lemmings would have survived long enough to score an hit. Do hold back and watch the flanks. Eventually the enemies will swarm, and they won't be focusing on you, so lots of easy "free" kills will be available. Do help repair and provide smoke when the big tank's gun goes down. Don't hang out directly behind, or tailgate. The behemoths have a great ability to reverse, and an experienced driver will be utilizing it. Do utilize cover and stay alive. See how Odd got swarmed when he was alone? Happens 3 out of 4 rounds when you take a behemoth. Blue evaporates completely, and red swarms. Behemoth drivers, consider staying close to U shaped buildings and narrow passages where it's difficult to get behind you. If anyone does struggle and get there, finish repairing and drive away from them.😅
Odd what’s you’re thoughts on this, fuel in tanks effects that if penned you run out then can’t move and a destroyed radiator slowly destroys the engine. Also great videos as well, only reason I play anymore is to try to make an appearance in one.
On an unrelated note, seal hunting season just started around here. 😅 Only joking, you are the only player i have seen that can take a ww1 tin paper armored "tank" and make it look op Well done 👏
i havent played this thing very much but i have a KD of 5.. my favorite moment was when i got hit in the front by a Ro-Go Exp. and it only left me with 2 crew. got my gunner back, and hit his track with the aphe and it overpressured. i bet he probably ALT+F4'd after that
Odd the reason the pz II C's 20mm fails to pen you is because of the nerf they did to its HVAP shells. They barely have 50mm of pen at 0 degrees if I remember correctly, and that's assuming they had the best shells.
HEYYY HEYYY DONT GIVE GAIJIN ANY IDEAS 5:55 this is just an advance technique you just don’t see often it’s perfectly reasonable strat i mean atp with all the different vehicles types that you can take into battle just makes strats like these and hill climbing interesting
DID YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT WEAKSPOT ON THE SU-122????
No
Because I haven’t whatched it yet I’m still in ads
No, Soviet tank has no weakspot. It’s intended!
No, but id very much like you to play the OF-40 MK.1.
No
I do not understand how those 122s didn't annihilate you
@@borntofart average Soviet player
Derpy Russian mains vs Tank-Ship with a crap ton of empty space.
Battle of Stronk
The Soviets felt bad for the French so they purposely put weak spots on for the 2c and ordered soldiers to stop shooting if they see one to make the French feel better
It's because they were most likely low tier noobs at level 7. Odd was seal clubbing them.
Fun fact about that periscope, it spins around not in an effort to block the bullet, but to make it so the thin slats that restrict bullets from getting through do not matter as much, as they'd be going fast enough around to see through the tiny gaps as if it were a rolling shutter. It'd also be nearly 360 degrees of view as well which matters a lot when going over a trench where infantry can try to rush the tank.
Yeah, I know it's a throwaway line, but the stroboscope worked fine--for bullets. It would have to be huge to deflect more modern cannon shells, and modern ww2 periscopes were almost as good with no weakspots and required no motor, gearshaft, etc to turn it. It doesn't scale up.
Yeah. OddBawz can't outsmart The French Engineers
They tried to match the frame rate of the human brain lol. Just as you can see through the propeller of a plane or helishitter.
Thank you for explaining just what in the hell that annoying thing is.
Saved me the excruciating effort of having to google it.
I mean, odd is still right though, have you ever heard of shrapnel?
That periscope if it rotates faster than 12 rotations per second can assure a clear, yet flickering, vision all around. At 24fps you got yourself the perfect view of the battlefield and still get some armor protection for your head.
When your tank is so tall, any shell it fires becomes automatically classified as a top-attack munition.
The idea with the revolving dome is that the slits in it were so thin a bullet would get volumetriced by it.
Also the Commander should see as if there is no cupola at all, via the shutter effect.
I think realistically, you'd end up with some bullet shrapnel if you got hit, and "hit enough times" = higher chance of shrapnel hitting you. But the core concept worked.
@@Novous Well, I dont know about you, but I'd rather take shrapnel to the head, than an entire bullet.
@@owo1744 Its really not a bad idea. But its no, fixed cupola with ballistic glass ports.
War sure changed a lot when einstein invented volumetric
It doesn't spin to stop bullets.Well sort of it spins to create a full 360 view so you aren't restricted by a set amount of view ports. It's the Zoe-trope effect.
My favorrite thing about this tank is that it can block off the tunnel on Frozen Pass if you manage to get it sideways, You can just park one and J out and deny the enemy team their easy access into the tunnel unless they want to workout how to unjam the behemoth of a tank
I'm gonna try this tonight
@@yannicksibilly same
@@yannicksibillyhow'd it go?
@@fennikk2433 pretty nice. You can in fact deny access to the tunnel, but you are pretty late to the scene.
When playing in arcade, you can also play as a mortar, and shoot tanks without even being seen.
10/10, would recommend 😂
That spinning periscope thing is very cool! I remember in BF1 (in which the Char is a "beheamoth") you could get in them to use the MGs. They actually animated the effect. Apparently the spinning is not for the peepholes to dodge out of the way of the bullets matrix-style, but to make a tiny tiny slit more like a wide vision thanks to how human eyes don't take moment-by-moment shots and more smear everything together. Pretty cool!
the periscope irl spun a lot faster than that it's just in game it's more enjoyable to look at it when it's not motion blur central.
It's not a periscope. It's a cupola with some slits in it.
@@vermilion7777 meh details
@@n1co2017 The devil is in the details.
“Never trust an engineer”, but, but trust me I’m an engineer…..
11:27 I dunno why, but hearing OddBawZ say "you buffoon" had me in stitches.
okay good to know, if youre tall enough you can hit a Su-122's commander hatch
But you also would have to have a lot of explosive mass in the shell you are using because it will not do that with many of the tanks at this BR
you should play the japanese Ho-I. It is at 2.0, basically a Chi-Hu hull with a short 75mm and 15 deg gundep. And 480g of explosive in APHE. On top of that, it has a good HEAT shell, and a very effective HE as well (12mm pen, so you can shoot the top of the turret of Panzer 3 and 4 tanks to overpressure them)
Not a bad idea
@@commandergeokam2868 yep, one of my favorite tank. truly a hidden gem, it is so good, when you see a tiny bit of the enemy engin area, shoot there, and the shell just overpressures. it can completly oneshot a char2c by shooting it's cupola xd
@@o-hogameplay185 i will play it again when i can ;)
I knew I was in for a treat when I got an ace on my first match with this big baguette.
Always good to remember that these behemoths were built at the end of WW1, gotta be fair to them when comparing them to most of the vehicles they fight against in War Thunder that were built during WW2 (or in some cases later).
It would be nice if there was a stat for “hits received in vehicle 1, 2, etc”
There are times where I have wondered how many shells I shrugged off and would have loved to see the total amount at the end of the match
Adamant sort of tracks that but I think multiple quick hits won't
"Now we are actually in the fight, we can do something." ~ OddBawZ. Right after killing 6 people. Damn, I love this guy.
The 2C was a blast to play when it came out, managed to get it spaded in 6 games lol, Also does feel a slight over tiered.
I love this tank so much man......I know that it isn't good, but holy cow it is so fun
N0t good? I have 8-10 kills in it, regularly... It almost feels like the Maus, if the Maus would fight WW2 Tanks only...
@@vermilion7777 it's an absolute beast at it's BR because there are a lot of stupid, unsuspecting noobs who just downloaded the game.
@@ihatehandleupdate Nope. Check the levels of the players. It's mainly level 50+. That's because they play this BR out of fun. Low level players want to get at fast as possible to higher BRs or are still in the bot-phase.
@@vermilion7777 It's a mix. I see a lot of unexperienced noobs and a lot of mid-, high tier players who want a brake from the chaos
People keep saying it is a WWI tank but it was only developed during WWI. It wasn't even used until after WWI.
So it's a wwI tank
@@lorenzomosca5655 No it's considered a post WWI tank look it up.
So the slits in the cupola were too slender for a bullet to slide through and the spinning holes made it clear to see through
Yeah, the Commander is supposed to get an shutter effect, like as if he would look through an open hatch. Nothing for people suffering epilepsy, probably...
@ 2:03 spy tf2 laugh mp.4
0:25 a bullet can't fit through the gaps. the idea was that it would spin so that the commander could see through the fast moving gaps, making an effect of there being nothing.
This tank is a human wave by itself! There are so many crew members!
Fun fact: **oh lawd he comin**
The spinning was probably for aimed fire at the vision ports. Kinda like that arcade game where you stop the wheel to get the prize. Looking out the ports optically you can see through like looking through a fan
the german 20mm has been so much nerfed, the pen was 64mm and it's now 48mm, it's now not op at all.
Enemy team watches in horror as a behemoth tank from 1921 rips through their entire forces lmaoo
It's little brother, the 2c Bis isn't too bad either. 1.5 br lower than the 2c but it's the same tank but with a 155mm howitzer instead of the 75. It obliterates anything that isn't heavy
Not bad is an understatement. It's the howitzer with the fastest reload rate. You can park behind a hill and play atillery.
"See? I've got an automatic butt hole scoop! See that?" - OddBawZ, 2023
Your imitation of the snore meme is amazing. :)) gets me every time. Thanks for another great video bawz!
Fun video suggestion, if you play with someone else and you both play the Catalina with the naval mines, you can kill all bases and the airfield without rearming.
When playing a heavy it would be fun to have a hit counter in video. Hoping Gaijin will add this feature is too much.
An absolute embarrassment to SU-122 players everywhere, those two :(
Only tank that can really ruin a Char 2c day is the Sherman 105mm with the heat round. Also the Su-122 is cracked. so hard to pen.
I love the 2C so damn much. From the gun depression to the 300+ kilograms of explosive mass (following the semi-recent buff of it's gun and APHE shell), its hard to have a bad time in games that don't end before you can reach the battleground.
Odd I would love to see you phly and spookston taking this French bus with a gun and make a unstoppable trio together
I can see in to the future I’m seeing odd ripping and tearing through the enemy team alone in a TOG II and having the time of his life (once they add that tank into the game) or other ridiculous super heavies like Kv4 or kv5
as a french it is one of my favorite tank, BIG CHUNGUS for the win !
As a german, it's one of MY favorite tanks.... I wished you hadn't destroyed them all. Would have looked cool in grey. :P
@@vermilion7777 i wished YOU hadn't destroyed all of them ;) hahahaha but yeah i agree it would look cool in grey :)
Quite astounding how cheerful Odd gets as soon as he ques up some low tier slaughter.
Doesn't have to concentrate as hard, less kamikaze WEP plane revenge killing, makes sense that it is more fun really.
My first encounter with this tank I pened through it's front armour with the first shot when coming around a corner. Scared the crap out of me.
The point about periscope is that there is no real holes bullet can exploit. Enough tiny slits with high revs act like a fan: you can see through it, it's just darker. And, since you get big area for light to find a way, the effect is not harsh enough to make things too dark to see.
I post up in bushes, with a small slit to hit me between buildings with a clear field of fire, and get nuked from 12 years away, you go sailing around in the land yacht and destroy god, creation, and everything in the universe while the War Thunder Legion for the Blind drives around on the other team. Make it make sense!
The Tog 2 of WT.
Slow, massive, has poor handling but! Can take a strangely heavy beating, has a good gun and makes people laugh and have fun for some inexplicable reason.
I assume this all means that a 2C group will do in WT what a tog group will do in wot, and omnom everything that comes at them.
The War Thunder conga line
This is the polar oppposite of being ina 2 man tank where any machine gun strafing will wipe out the entire crew. This tank you have to mail separate packages to each of the 12 crew members who live in separate timezones
7:56 I got an ad right as he yelled and it was priceless
it's got 12 crew members in a br range where most guns are no bigger than 45mm
You may have gotten my gunner that time, BUT I HAVE 10 MORE READY TO TAKE HIS PLACE!
WE ARE 2C, WE ARE LEGION!
Lol i don’t like fighting but when I do i love to bully it :)
The 2c (and it's big gun premium bro the 2c bis) are delightful low-tier big chonker lineholder tanks. Main guns on both are always a threat to anything near it's BR (as you saw, even when it needs a creative hatch shot), and it's damn hard to finish one off without beating it's massive crew to death.
This tank is like a reverse Merkava lol, instead of the tank being designed for maximum crew protection and survivability, it is essentially fueled by bodies of crewmen.
That opening mating scene was straight out of National Geographic...
“Never trust an engineer, trust me; I’m an engineer”
I’m so confused
Im pretty sure the point of the periscope is to give you 360 view with absolutely no blind spots and you just have to turn your head.
"When your armour is people"- I mean, between this and watching Steath17 play The Great War: Western Front, that's pretty much a good summary of WW1
Drinking challange: Take a shot every time a german player uses smoke
Imagine if Warthunder creates a what if mode where ww1 lasted for another 2 years. Imagine all the tanks of the ww1 era and the early 20's
it is so true with the survivability. I have taken the premium version up to higher tiers and it takes a good 5-8 shells to kill me, unless they hit ammo of course.
DEFINITELY LOVE YOUR VIDEOS, because you give me a taste to play another day.
the stuka napalm was cinematic as hell
Dude every time I play this I just get repeatedly shot in the turret neck till I got no more crew
“It’s a Christmas tree of dudes”
Hahahah
How do you adjust the range on your gun like that? 4:34
He's zeroing it. Scroll wheel on pc, dunno controller.
The 2C should come with a sound file that plays a tuba whenever you move.
When you want to support a behemoth, there are some do's and don't's.
Don't lollygag around beside the advancing heavy, only to rush up in the face of the first group of enemies you encounter. You could have done that from the start, and saved time, and maybe one of your fellow lemmings would have survived long enough to score an hit.
Do hold back and watch the flanks. Eventually the enemies will swarm, and they won't be focusing on you, so lots of easy "free" kills will be available.
Do help repair and provide smoke when the big tank's gun goes down.
Don't hang out directly behind, or tailgate. The behemoths have a great ability to reverse, and an experienced driver will be utilizing it.
Do utilize cover and stay alive. See how Odd got swarmed when he was alone? Happens 3 out of 4 rounds when you take a behemoth. Blue evaporates completely, and red swarms.
Behemoth drivers, consider staying close to U shaped buildings and narrow passages where it's difficult to get behind you. If anyone does struggle and get there, finish repairing and drive away from them.😅
You abbusing the height to see above obstacles and getting kills from cover was hilarious to see !
Ptin t'y est vraiment pas aller de main morte avec la baguette 🤣(damn you didn't restrained yourself with this baguette)
Odd says the spinning thing is crap.. meanwhile he's the one to told me to wiggle my turret for basically the same reason.. 😆
Hahaha you brought the tuba back! From that twitch stream haha
OddBawz is in rare form today, must have been feeling much better; having a "blast" in the twelve-passenger party bus!
13:03 bro became a wall for his teamate
Odd what’s you’re thoughts on this, fuel in tanks effects that if penned you run out then can’t move and a destroyed radiator slowly destroys the engine. Also great videos as well, only reason I play anymore is to try to make an appearance in one.
On an unrelated note, seal hunting season just started around here. 😅
Only joking, you are the only player i have seen that can take a ww1 tin paper armored "tank" and make it look op
Well done 👏
i havent played this thing very much but i have a KD of 5.. my favorite moment was when i got hit in the front by a Ro-Go Exp. and it only left me with 2 crew. got my gunner back, and hit his track with the aphe and it overpressured. i bet he probably ALT+F4'd after that
When your armor is: people; than u can start protesting!
I still say the all the low rank French heavies has too high BR!
Yeah I'd expect a TNT throwing baguette to shine
fun fact this thing is missing it’s historical HEAT shell.
This absolutely ridiculous. I hope it stays 2.3 as it's trolly as hell but still easily killable due to 22mm armor in side that is as big as a barn.
Odd the reason the pz II C's 20mm fails to pen you is because of the nerf they did to its HVAP shells. They barely have 50mm of pen at 0 degrees if I remember correctly, and that's assuming they had the best shells.
The ones that designed the Sweden-map, have never been here in Sweden. It looks like some city in Switzerland or Austria, rather than the north.
I guess after driving the West Virginia in WoWS this must seem like high speed excitement. ;)
Malzi: *inserts AAAUGH sound effect*
OddBawZ: 10:00
nearly hit 1000 kills in the Pain Train, and I've only died about 200 times
HEYYY HEYYY DONT GIVE GAIJIN ANY IDEAS 5:55 this is just an advance technique you just don’t see often it’s perfectly reasonable strat i mean atp with all the different vehicles types that you can take into battle just makes strats like these and hill climbing interesting
I one shot it earlier tonight with a M5 37mm. shoot right behind the side MG, ammo racked it.
I love the way Odd says Crusader
You played the french lanship
Can you play the Russian one?
(The t35)
spinning decal on the rear was a good idea
8:09 that was cinematic
The survivability is so high because of the sheer amount of crew
Wondered why I have been seeing this tank alot recently, think people have become inspired after this video
I have had a fun time in the 2C!! It is very humorous! And the gun is not bad for its tier, with high 1-shot potency!
Yesss low tier is fun tier.
Also can't wait for actual WW1 tanks!
My first match with this beast (was at the launch day) I got seven kills stock, I was impressed by how great this behemoth is
Thanks for bringing this wonderfully tank to light... But I hope everyone forgets about it so I can be big in peace.
Can you try the premium version? It is not as good due to its reload rate but it is still loads of fun!
This thing can kill a maus in 3 HITS! That's crazy!
Still should be in 1.7
The spinning cupolas are so that the crew can blame on RNG instead of the engineers