Pruning My Young Trident Maple and Pyrenean Oak, The Bonsai Zone, Feb 2023
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- I'm pruning my Trident Maple (Acer buergerianum) to get it ready for it's 4th year of growing from a seed. I'm also pruning my Pyrenean Oak (Quercus pyrenaica) seedling, it will be going into it's third year from a seed.
To see previous videos of my Trident Maple, click on the playlist here...
• Trident Maple Seedling
To see previous videos of the Pyrenean Oak, click on the playlist here....
• Pyreanean Oaks
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Hi Nigel, 👋 from Australia. After watching 486 of your videos and counting I started my own bonsai channel. Thanks for inspiring me. TTS
Enjoyed the fun skidding round the greenhouse at the start - made me smile
I have deciphered your secret code and I believe that the Pyrenean oak was sent by someone in blue sky Spain! Great to see it looking healthy and happy. Though clearly the pot won't last much longer! mine are all still in plastic pots, maybe this spring I'll choose a couple to repot into bonsai pots. On mountain sides they tend to grow in clumps, so I could select a number of them and make a northern-spain-style penjing. We'll see... maybe next year.
Anyway great pruning video Nigel, nice to see the progress on this oak!
Ah yes, the blue skies were amazing that day, thanks Dave, may your skies always be blue!
Nigel your haircut is epic for your "style" hehe really cool looking :)
Tee shirt weather, nice, love the vids. Tony
Those trident maples surely are vigorous growers. I'm hoping the cuttings will also do well!
fancy cake description is the perfect way to illustrate that point! hehehe agreeed
Lmao "wedding cake"!!!
You definitely paint a vivid picture!
I really like these lessons learned type of snippets in your clips. Like the Willow in this.
Seeing that even though you have worked for years with bonsai, you still learn and have to adapt. Inspiring for a newbie like myself.
Thank you Nigel for a steady flow of really good videos! 🙏🏼
The learning never stops, or I'm forgetful, one or another!!
Thanks for the heads up on the haws can Nigel.I ordered one.👍
Fantastic!
The shadow of one of your trees in the background when pruning the trident maple looks like the face of a menacing Orc ....freaky 😂😂😂😊
Nice, Nigel. Another good thing about growing trees from seeds is you always know exactly how old it is!
Very true!
I'm new to bonsai (2022) and I started seeds this winter. Right now I have 18 Rowan tree seedlings, 13 Larch seedlings, and we'll see about the rest. Hoping my Eastern (Canadian) Hemlock, Striped and Hedge Maples, and countless pines and jap maples sprout up as well. They're my babies and I can't wait to sell/give some away, as well as choose my candidates for Bonsai.
That was me a few years ago!
A word of advice if I may... don't get too excited and grow too many! And focus on species you really don't think you can live without.
I went wild and grew so many things from seed, whatever i could find (it's SO much fun!!) and ended up with way too many pre bonsai, more than i could manage.
And they're so hard to give away since you become so attached!
I've now given away a lot, and have honed down my collection.
Now I satisfy my seed growing love by growing veggies and flowers too.
Having said that, good luck, go your hardest and have fun! Bonsai is the best hobby and so so rewarding! And people will love you for giving them your excess seedlings 😁
@@katyb2793 thanks for the advice! Yeah, it's so easy with all the maple babies in my yard too! But I've decided to focus on rare/endangered species on the Ohio DNRs list from here on.... I have some acreage I can plant the extras on , so that's good too!
@@joshdartist ooh that sounds so interesting! Fantastic idea, I wonder if we have many endangered species here in Australia? 🤔 (says she who said not to get too many bonsai😅)
@@katyb2793 I'm sure you do. Here in the USA, each of the states has its own Division of Natural Resources (DNR) that handles compiling a list for that state. Not sure how it works Down Under, but I'm sure there's a comparable agency. (Then I can grow as many as I want, because I'm "helping re-wild nature" or something... lol)
@@joshdartist 🤣🤣 that is very true. You're doing your part for the environment!
At least you have space to plant them in the ground if you find you don't have time for awhile.
I'm sure we have a list like that I. Australia too. Will do some googling!
Love the oaks plan! Great updates!
As far as the willows prune in mid June after they recover from the spring flush- then you can prune again in Aug/beginning Sept then yes hands off through winter. They will always die back to the next bud. So if you do a trunk cut it is expected to die back to the next bud much like a BRT will.
Nice to see some T Shirt weather. Albeit in the greenhouse. Thanks, keep growing
It felt good for about an hour!!!
Hello. You should have planted the cut root back then. It would definitely have grown. ;) Maybe you try it the next time you shorten the root of the Trident Maple. ;)
I totally agree on not fancy the wedding cake bonsai very much😅 That being said some of those trees may have undergone some very good treatment (skills) and care which I can appreciate. It is the style that can be very unnatural and in some cases is almost like "bonsai topiary".
Yes, most Maples are missing all that good upright structure before going to horizontal branching, it's like the heart of the tree is missing!
Have you checked out any places that make marble countertops. They quite often have a bin that all the cutoffs , trimmings go that I have been able to get slabs for using for my bonsai. Might be something for your stand you plan to make for your small bonsai display.
Great video thank you. Have grown some Trident maples from seed here in the UK. They have great Autumn (fall) colours as well here.
Very cool!
could you put fine mesh steel screening over the seedling trays for the hardy trees?
Thanks for letting us know about the watering can!! Emma and I were literally talking about wanting one this morning for the upcoming season, and then I watched your video. I've been looking for them for a long time and had even contacted Haws about them. I was under the impression they had been discontinued... Just ordered mine now. Thanks so much for the tip!!!
Awesome, you'll love it!!
Pruning of the TM and the PO will bring out some nice spring growth with a lot of development. Cuttings of the TM should give you some nice extra trees for your collection. Nice updates.
Thanks Tom, I got the gold spoon, so awesome, thank you!!!
Can you make a chicken wire hoop house? Cover with plastic till the seeds grow and this will keep the squirrels out. Just a thought.
Those squirrels are so clever, I think I'd need a bank vault!!!
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Planted another batch of trident seeds a few weeks ago, given my 0% success rate from the hundreds I've sown in the last ten years, I'm not really expecting anything to grow. Maybe I should have saved up and bought an established tree instead, but the few I find for sale seem excessively pricey when regular japanese maples can be had for a tenth of the price.
Your paper bark birch; not a seedling, not a tree...
Thus, a TREENAGER!
Lol, good one!!
Warm here too, pussy willows are blooming! WAY early LOL The snow is melting fast. This is Fool's Spring Hahaha! We have some really cold days in the forecast coming up. Good tips for the willows. We are always learning every day!
We are having the same strangely warm winter here in New England. That's a very nice greenhouse unfortunately I think it gets too warm for deciduous trees in winter. They should be ok for a year but lack of dormancy will start to exhaust them.
Thanks Michael, I wondered about this, especially the Larches. The curators of the Montreal collection keep their Larches above freezing for the whole winter and after many, many years they are doing really well. I think our winters are so long here that most trees have ample dormancy even if they break out early towards the end of winter.
I am trying to keep the greenhouse cool, it's only when the sun is out that it heats up and it is only for a short period of time. The soil in the pots tends to stay cool even when the air temperature is higher, luckily!!
I see what you did there with your “Blue Sky” oak 😉
Thanks Dave, I mean Matt!!!
I prune my willow during Spring - never during Winter.
about your willow at 25:00 , you dont think it might be the rubber glue rather than the timing, that the tree reacts to ? out of all of your trees, one of them , almost should be, "allergic" ?
It could be, but the rubber cement dries very quickly, any volatile chemicals should evaporate in the first few minutes, maybe?
I'll keep testing!! Thanks Derrick!
@@TheBonsaiZone I worked for a number of years as a carpenter making mostly furniture and cabinets. I've also done framing. But I wanted to suggest as a substitute Titebond or similar wood glue. They are basically super duper Elmer's glue. You can find them for exterior application. They dry fairly quickly and I believe they are derived from organic sources (hooves possibly?) And it cleans up easily with water while it's still wet. Once dry its on until the tree over grows it or it's damaged through UV or weathering. Just a thought...
How do you know when a pot is cheap (other than low price)?
They usually don't have any makers stamp on the bottom and they just look like they were made in a hurry. Poor details and usually a poor looking glaze too.
Which method is better and why: pruning such long skinny trees or letting them grow up to 2m until the trunk is thicker? I think first method will take longer than second method to achieve good trunk thickness.
It all depends on what your goal is for the tree, large, medium or small!!
Hey Nigel! I have a Birch Cully that’s still in a nursery pot from HD. I trunk chopped it recently. When would be a good time to root prune and get it in a training box?
After a trunk chop I'd wait a season before fiddling with roots. It probably could survive doing everything in one go, but I'd say its risky for sure.
Hah, the wedding cake comparison was funny! I agree.
And thanks for the appreciative speech for growing trees from seeds. I sowed some tree seeds in the fall. I hope at least some of them will germinate in their first year.
Glad you enjoyed it Liisa!
they don't grow into trees fast, they are trees right from their birth xD just a question: are you never getting tired of (nearly) only straight trunk trees in you collection? doesn't it bothering you that you just can't do another style when the trunk is straight? only with trunk chops, but thats a thing you don't do anymore somehow. i ask because i started with that opinion too, but then all i got were straight sticks in pots and i was soo tired of it and rethought my whole bonsai journey. not a midlife crisis, but a straight trunk crisis 😆
I love straight trunk trees. The focus is totally on the quality of the bark, trunk, roots and branch placement. 99 percent of the trees around me in nature are straight trunked trees. I like my trees to look like the the trees I see. A straight trunk tree looks powerful healthy and strong to me. I get sick of all the twisty curved trees at bonsai shows. Many I have a hard time relating to, they barely look like trees to me. I love to see the power of trees and not to always be reminded of the harshness of nature. I do have a percentage of twisty trees in my collection, enough to keep me happy with that style of tree. Give me a straight trunked tree any day!!!
@@TheBonsaiZone i'm totally with you! i also don't like that all the shows mostly have these "fantasy" style shapes. they are natural is some way, but only when they are yamadoris from a harsh environment.. when i say bends in the trunk, i don't mean these S shapes or heavy twists, more like your serissa or literati style :D i only put slight natural curves into some of my trees that it still looks like a healthy tree. i'm also missing exact copies of "normal" nature trees in bonsai, especially in shohins. i'm only growing tropicals and i'm sooo tired of the terrible "china import" style of them.. and with tropicals, especially ficus, it's nearly impossible to find good material to start with, all the rootbases are HORRIBLE -.- you can only them from seed or redo it completely. when you go into a bonsai nursery you see all the outdoor species taken good care and at leat some work done to them, but when you come into the tropical section..... you have to puke due to their "untouched" shapes.. just slip potted a hundred times and hedge pruned it a couple times
bring the camera closer to the tree, so that we know what us being done. it used to be clear, good angles
From what I’ve heard, winter pruning of willows is bad. Active growth pruning is what I’ve been told.
My Japanese maples are all leafing out in the garage Nigel, disaster!!
I think they will be fine, just be extra careful introducing them to the sun and wind. Days like today, they could go outside in the shade!
A treeling
Lol, yes!
Foist
Noice!
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