I know you've said you aren't a fan of Pilfer but after 18 Magnamalo hunts it was my Palico that nabbed my 1st purple orb. Never going without it again!
Save your original palico as a preset and then use that to recruit. It's identical to your original. I'm pretty sure that was the intention of it. I've got my two real cats with multiple different builds and all the good skills.
@@slick_3617 but those are just copies ... they're not THE original that was with you from the start. You're thinking about functionality and forgetting about sentimental value.
@@AysarAburrub I get that, I've done some ridiculous things in Pokemon in the name of sentimental value. But they seemed to design it in this game so that upgrading and recruiting is streamlined to be the same thing. You can make the distinction if you want, but I personally feel that's not the way it was intended. It would be weird to add a new mechanic to do the exact same thing it already does.
@@epcarter6 only weapon i might not use it on would be lance so if i want to "combo" i wont jump away, but ye, started using it on swaxe, then put it on hunting horn, i wont play without it anymore
I like that you often remind people to do what's fun instead of always doing what's meta. Sometimes it's easy to get all caught up in min maxing everything to the limit and forgetting why you started playing these games to begin with.
With the play style of normal gunlance, the MinMaxing option in respect to dps is actually TWO palamutes with umbrella and flurry scroll. Their attack frequency is directly related to yours and each shell counts. Go check any GL speed runs and you will see.
@@robertjif6337 It gives your Palico a bit of health recovery and increases their ability to dodge/block, but most importantly it causes them to attack and use Support Moves FAR more often when activated. It's also completely free to use, so use that felvine bomb whenever you want your cat to do a bit of extra work!
Interesting that 2 accounts can be so different, with both palico and palamute on K.O King and Status Up I'm usually getting one paralysis every hunt. K.O.s on the other hand... Also, don't ignore Rousing Roar, I've been having a great deal of success with them on Crit Element Builds( that 30% affinity boost is no joke)
I'm playing with a palico and palamute, both with status attack up and the bell buddy weapon that you can unlock and I usually get 1 or 2 sleeps per hunt. I don't use any status weapons myself, but it's been quite handy.
I would imagine that if you replaced Zap Blast Spinner with Mega Boomerang you would see more status effect procs as that inherits your equipped weapons properties and is muliti-hitting. Palamute's equipped with the umbrella shield and attack speed scroll are also really good for inflecting status effects and is the only reason I haven't replaced mine yet despite having several strong palicos.
I was looking for a "best skills" type palico guide, and almost didn't click, but I think you really just summed it up for me when you reiterated that speed runners don't even bother and it's not worth overthinking. I'll just pick what I like. Thanks for helping me reframe my perspective on this one. On PC I'm still unlocking camps and stuff and am running one of each buddy... I have done double Palico before on switch and I think the biggest thing is the safety of sharpening on a dog rather than the travel speed. At higher tiers you can do other things to address sharpening, so I agree it all leans towards the palamute being an early game buddy. I still would like to see more love given do the dogs though because IRL I'm really not a cat guy and if my dog could do more in game I'd run two of em.
If the Bombardier Palico is anything like how it was in GU then it's best to go for the highest raw damage possible. In GU the bomb damage from the Palicos in GU were increased from their raw attack.
My dog and cat have put monsters to sleep so often that I basically sleep bomb monsters every hunt now idk if its cause of the parasol on the dog plus my cat having endemic life barrage but I've even had instances where I get multiple sleep procs in the same hunt without status attack up.
I recently switched to Fighter after going almost the entire game with Healer and it's been a nice change! The affinity and earplugs from Rousing Roar as well as the attack and defence from Power Drum makes it so that I've basically got a mini Hunting Horn in my party (which is nice, considering I immediately dropped the weapon after what Capcom did to it) Though I usually play multiplayer so I never really bothered managing the second Buddy slot, usually I had it empty so that the pet could train in the Dojo instead.
@@CiromBreeze Huh? I’ve heard nothing but good things about “what Capcom did to [hunting horn]”. And from what I understand, there is a switch skill that lets you play it the old way if that’s your preference. What was your issue with it?
@@robingoodfellow8963 The lack of big-damage Encores. The reduced range on the new attacks. The cooldown on the Echo attack. The simplification of the song lists. The removal of the hilt-stab. And worst of all, the removal of the free-flowing combos, no longer can any move follow any other move. Ironically, the one thing the Switch Skill actually changes is the one thing that I didn't really care about. I don't mind that the songs auto-play, that's actually a really nice feature. I just wish we had that with the old Horn.
@@CiromBreeze Thanks for the reply. I was genuinely curious since this is my first MH game, and all the videos I watched on the HH raved about it. I’m sorry that they neutered it so much for you. HH was one of the first weapons I tried, and while I loved it at first for how effective it was, I eventually switched away because I found it a bit too simplistic and boring, so on that note I kind of get where you’re coming from.
It's funny because I have the complete opposite opinion, I love the songs being simplified so you don't have to spend so long overthinking which dootstick is the best one. And so you can just get your songs out and be good. The combos feel nice, do good damage (from what I feel) and is way better in Rise than any other MH Game I've played where World could only get me to sometimes play the thing if I felt like supporting. Now it supports by killing the damn monster.
As someone who probably played more prowler than anything else in GU, I went out of my way to get all the best skills on my buddies, customized their looks to the max (I had a lot of fun doing it for palamutes especially) and got them fancy armor. I even try out new combos all the time. What I found: - Bombardier is my favorite cat and Monster Mine is my favorite skill. Not only does it look awesome, but it also makes for interesting scenarios in hunts and especially rampages. It's really cool to see my palico plant a mine right where monsters pass through because then I can try to engage them and get them to trigger it. - Shock Tripper is great. It's given me so many opportunities to KO monsters, it's insane. One proc per hunt is basically guaranteed and that's one more KO on top of everything else, even when you KO'd the monster a bunch already. - Palamutes seem to be better users of status attack up than cats, because palamutes attack with you instead of truly acting on their own. Currently, I run 2 palamutes (yep, trying it out) with Volvidon weapons and they tend to get two paras per hunt. Which is pretty darn decent if you ask me (that's with me running no para whatsoever btw) - Speaking of, my go to weapon is either Volvidon for KO and para, or Somnacanth (sleep). Personally, I prefer para, but running, say, GS, sleep is way better. KO is just a bonus btw. I don't think my guys would ever get KOs consistently if I didn't run with blunt assist kinsects a lot of the time. - Endemic life barrage is indeed completely and utterly busted. Gatherers got it all. Barrage, Pilfer, potential Endemic Life Summon or Shock Tripper and they also gather more han other palicoes, so you'll get more random loot from them at the end of a quest. Also, running Gunlance, optimizing for damage a bit might not even be that bad an idea, because the Howlitzer can run buddy rallye and buff up buddies quite a bit that way. For armor, I go purely for looks. My bombardier needs to have the Bnahabra sunglasses at all times.
I have the sleep bell weapon on both my Palico and Palimute and can absolutely confirm they DO put monsters to sleep, I do also use status up on Palico.
Status Attack Up is generally only useful when combined with cats that have Mega Boomerang and / or Pilfer (preferably both). Those attacks pierce and can apply a lot of status. I typically get 1-2 sleeps per monster from the Palico weapons alone. Players who prefer Go Fight Win should probably opt for a different passive skill.
I've been using a fighter and bomber palico for synergy, but I just built myself a couple of Gunlance sets thanks to Ruri and I'm loving the new style. Very different from my Insect Glaive. Sounds like I need to switch my fighter out for an assist type to hold the monsters still while we set off as many explosions as possible! The Howlitzer also comes with Buddy Rally as a Ramp-Up skill, more bang for your buck!
I play a healing palicoe and a palamute with two scrolls on it. I've been using my gathering palicoes for the argosy. But after watching this I think I might try and take my gathering felyne with me on the hunt I wanna see that endimic life barrage lol. But during multiplayer I just run with a palamute Idk why I find it hard to traverse with just wirebug.... BTW love your content you've thought me so much about monster hunter and I'm a veteran from MH3 but you've Def made me way better at this game so thank you 👍
recently i enjoyed using a healer and a fighter together. the healer to heal obviously (i tried got one with all slots full of just healing skills), and the fighter to buff me. it's a lot of fun, because i like playing fast and aggressive, and against monsters i know well i can pretty much go the whole hunt without healing myself, because my cat does it for me. some monsters that are more difficult for me do require me to heal, but honestly even in high rank i usually don't have to use my own items, the ones i get during the quest are enough most of the time. and because the fighter buffs me i have some more attack output too, and as a dual blade user i do have a fighter with the stamina thingy (no idea how it's named in english, but the ability where the cat cheers you on and your stamina depletes slower). i'm pretty sure an assist cat would be great for that playstyle too, but i haven't tried that yet ^^'
The bombardier palico gain most explosion damage with range attack up not attack up, but I torally agree with ya, anyone should choose the best palico for his own playstyle
Knockout king on a palamute with the guarding parasol is great because it has an attack that spins kind of like the infernal melody move with hunting horn. Even without knockout king my buddies KO monsters pretty often
for normal hunts i'm using a Palamute and a healer Palico with the vase and the boomerang, both having blast weapons. The horn heal is very strong and the blight removal is also great. I like jumping on a palamute mid fight to heal up or sharpen. for rampage i'm using two gathering Palicos both with power drum and the shocker, one with healing bubbles and a sleep weapon and one with zaps and a poison weapon. They can inflict a lot of status and blights and thats really handy for rampage.
I did a speedrun with a Affinity and Attack Speed Buffing Palamute with my GLORIOUS Fighter Palico, Manticore. Manticore, with the Palamute Buffs, will have 60% Affinity usually, but can get higher or lower depending on how healthy your Palamute is. And this 60% Affinity on a RAJANG Weapon and with I get alot of Knockdowns with Whirlwind Assault, More significantly great buffs from Rousing Roar, Power Drum, and Fur-ious
Cat and pup here. I know that camps and wire bugs are faster but using a pup let’s me get extra materials on the fly (as well as use items) when I want to. I do switch out though :) double pups can really do some decent damage if you use the right items. Less flashy but more numbers.
I finally got my perfect Palico. I got Gathering with Shock-purison, Healing bubble and Powerdrum. Perfect for my SnS which doesn't need the stamina from Go-fight-win. I also got Status attack up, KO king, and negate posion. YEA BOI!!! QUICK TIP: If you're not getting the RNG for the perfect Palico. You can do the Rajang challenge quest and cart. Pick the HBG and avoid the Prism Spiribird then try and hit a personal best of 16 seconds. You only need to fail the quest once for the rotation of Palico to change. Also, once you fail the quest use the move around village option in the menu to get to the Palico trainer guy as there are no load screens and is much faster then running there on foot. Hope this helps for those on Nintendo. If you're on PC download the Palico editor on Nexus mods.
i got a guarantee sleep every quest... is that because the weapon that ur palico/mute were using? im using the sleep 20 hammer..or maybe u just too good to finish and call it a day too quick 🌚
I've been using the assist / gathering combo for a while. Really like it. My assist palico also throws out healing bubbles, so I don't need a healer palico :-)
Blast dash is a pretty strong argument. I'll just have to suffer with my horn. The pals really are heavily about your play style but generally... The looting palicos are great since skill one can do a lot of nice along with all the extra loot you get. You can still get healing and dps from their center skills if you want. You can have tons of buddies so no need to skimp on them.
I have two cats in real life. It’s a no brainer to take two palicos with me. Ones a fighter to buff the party, the other is a gatherer with disrupting attacks.
So are the buff moves random? Cause my azsist palico has power drum and buffs the team, flashes monsters, silk bind, poison pitfall. Like I love her lol
@@TheBlackShinigami The fighter’s middle skills are ‘Go Fight Win’, Power Drum, and Shock Purr-ison, so it can buff me in all sorts of ways. The Gatherer has Mega Boomerang, Summeown Endemic Life, and Shock Tripper, so it can disrupt the enemy a bit. I’m also planning on making a bomber Palico at some point with the spinning tops, monster mine, and flash Bombay. It’ll basically be my fireworks expert.
Regarding pali(co's/mutes) and status, I've had good success using the sleep weapon you get from the buddy shrine. Paralyzes I've never been able to get off though, and I've definitely tried. Poison also doesn't seem to be that great to put on them either, haven't really noticed more than one poison proc in a fight happening, and I'm not even sure if that's from them most of the time, or from other happenstance like poison toads, etc. But sleep seems to be working fine for me. Plus that sleep stick is blunt as well. Even then, I still wouldn't recommend Status Attack Up, because you will not see more than one of those procs happening in a hunt anyway. Maybe in a hyper specialized setup where both you and your cats/dogs focus on a specific status, but eh. I do think dogs make the better status appliers as well though, the chain weapon you start out with does a lot of small hits, which is generally good for elemental/status.
My Gather Pali has Power Drum, stam cheer, and flash Bombay. The Flash has become one of my favorite skills. He does it at great times, and he uses it often.
7:52 I noticed the same thing. 1 Status buddy can get a sleep, but 2 Paralysis Buddies can't. I tested on Great Izuchi. Fight 1 I go ham and the gent a paralysis, Fight 2 I go slower to break the tail and they never got a paralysis even when the second hunt was twice as long. It seems like there attacks are tied to yours, so faster weapons might get more out of status buddies. And why Rurikhan playing Gunlance didn't see any status procs at all.
I literally did not know you could double up on palicos or palamutes in a hunt. I thought it always had to be one of each. Though to be fair, I only started playing a week ago but I kept wishing I could just use one assist palico and one gatherer palico at the same time.
My answer is: Roleplay and choose according to what you want to see in your hunts. If one day, you thought: "I want to have a team of beyblader palicoes." Then build your beyblader AttackL palicoes and go on hunts with them. Then if another day, you thought: "I want to try status palamutes." Then build your attack speed, StatusAtkPlus palamutes and go on hunts with them. Then if another day, you thought: "I want to speedrun." Then remove your two buddies and go on a hunt solo. Bottomline is: Do what you freaking want to do.
Waiting for it to come out on PC, going to miss my palicos from GU using flash bombay to troll me. Especially on Valstrax, always adds a bit more challenge when the screen turns yellow and white and the elder dragon is no longer in my field of view. Is it behind me? Is it about to crash down from the sky? Do I have time to use invigoration or get 3 notes off and get into the valor sheathing animation? How many people put flash bombay on all their palicos cause it's going to screw with them more than the monsters and make the fight more interesting? Is there a way in Rise to make it so monsters don't attack my palico and only attack me so I will actually use my palico for combat? I came all the way out to the monsters location to give it the musical performance of its lifetime, it should be focusing on me and not my palico...
Also, the problem with random palicos and palamutes is that the game picks hideous colors for the vast majority of them. They look like someone dropped them in a toilet or a nuclear waste dump, more often than not... I would LOVE it if there were some option to pick either vivid contrasts or complimentary colors while not actually having to choose them myself - not that there's any game to my knowledge that offers a "semi-random" feature with those particular criteria. This game is about as curated random as it gets. Most of them totally end up looking like garbage though. What I do, is I leave everything "random" EXCEPT I choose a few colors myself in "scout" - and then I do it again after the next mission or whenever one comes along that I want. (It's a little tedious, but it's still far faster than actually designing each one myself) but most of the settings are still random, and I don't have to have a supposed animal that has more in common with poop following me around all over the place. Then again, you can just recruit them as slow as you want, and wait 10 quests to stumble into one that looks good. I just wanted to get a steady flow of worker ants to get me some items for crafting and all that, as early as possible, but I still didn't want them to look like such hot garbage ;)
Havent watched yet, but if he mentions one more time that having gathering palicoes is selfish JUST because he doesnt like them, im not gonna do anything but I'll be pretty miffed about it for a few minutes. I made Maritére, my beautiful gathering kitty when I started the game and she shall be with me till the day I stop playing!
The Palico I went with was the bombardier. Never looked back after seeing him whip out a huge explosive barrel. Running palamute along with the palico. I can’t leave the doggo out
I use two Palicos because even if I liked dogs (I don't), palamutes just don't... do much. I use a gathering palico and an assist palico because they just have the biggest visible effect on the hunt, and I honestly don't even care about the pilfers from the gathering palico, given that every palico can plunder (if the gathering one does it more, the difference is not very large); endemic life barrage is just godlike.
the xbox version gives you 2 palicoes and 3 palamutes with a different coloured border around their thumbnail picture. Are these 5 gifted buddies identical across everyones game and are they good buddies?
I want my palicos to have "pure" skillsets so I want my healer to only have healing skills, my offensive ones to only have attacks and my support to only have buffs and traps. For passive skills, medic is a must for healer but aside from that it mainly affects their choice of gear. For example, if a palico has status attack boost, they will get a status weapon and the matching set.
Ultimately everyone should play what is most fun. Everyone hunting for weakness exploit end all be all is boring... I was very proud of my turtle lance build that is virtually uncartable, can block anything and takes minimal damage being a counter machine. Max def, constitution, guard, offensive guard, hunger free all because I got a 3 divine blessing 3 constitution 2 slot talisman. The discord I was on ridiculed my build so much I ended up leaving it. I've put a combined 10,000 hours into MH(Ps2), MHF(psp), MHFrU(psp) and MHTri(wii) I don't need an optimized build to finish a hunt. My skill/knowldge is more than enough to carry me at this point. I was a weapon only player on the psp, no traps, bombs, just go ham vs the monsters and I managed to get up to G** before the Dual Black Gravios quest was just too much of a dps test. I enjoy your content because you push fun over "meta" meta is boring, why the F do I want to play and look like everyone else? I want people to see me and be like, I wonder what build he's using not, oh... Another wex cookie cutter player, boooooooring. Keep your wex clown suits and enjoy your hunts that are maybe 1-2 minutes faster at the cost of infinite amounts of fun. On the terms of Palico, healing bubble, power drum and shock purrison are too good to not have so I have one of every palico subclass with those 3 skills. I have 1 full healer palico, one full trapper palico, one full fighter and one full bombardier as well. I rotate them depending on my goals. If I need a ruby or gem drop, well, sorry but pilfer it is. If I'm hunting with my lance, I'm already well protected so I bring fighter bomber. If I'm playing my spreadshot Magnashotgun, I bring a trapper with the fighter. I'm glad MHWorld got the game to become a global franchise, but the part of me that grew up being the only MH player in my surrounding area/possibly state hates what the community at large has decided how the game should be played... Like, I have a 2/3 evade extender 2/3 bubble dance 2 tier 2 slot talisman. That thing breaks the game for me. Every build I do has max evade with free evasion window. I used your SnS build idea to make a Dual Sword brutal strike build. Counter strike, Resuscitate, Atk 7 using tigrex blades. You're so damn mobile and deal good damage. If you're evasive your damage is boosted, if you get hit your damage gets boosted more. The build works so good! But even that would get criticized because no wex, no narga blades mleh... My character looks straight out of Assassin's Creed for that build too. Asthetics are inportant. Juryatodus and Anjanath sets have a soft spot for me. Juryatodus set also has a native 13 slots to work with just in it's base 5 piece set. Add a weapon with 2 and a talisman with 2 and have fun with that. Best for Lance/Gunlance builds though. Look like a prehistoric paladin (*.*)
yo, totally unrelated, but since you used it in that awesome wyvernlance clip against narga- i'm *super* happy tobi-kadachi somehow lucked into having a unique non-bone bit weapon for lance and gunlance.
@@rurikhan Wait, was it *always* unique? I never remembered seeing the shield for tobi's lance and gunlance at all in worldborne- same with pukei-pukei. But if they did, I'm glad. Glad some new monsters managed to have unique looks in that game.
Insect Glaive can basically blast dash anytime in air back to back to back to back and come down with 800+ dmg wyvern dives to the face whilst having ear plugs and flinch free built in. Yea, sorry Gun Lance in World you was bae. Here IG is just too good. I feel I can get around just as fast without the dog. I love the dogs but two Palicos is just objectively better in every way. They have better buffs, traps, provide more damage opportunities, possibly deal more damage themselfs, and on top of that they gather more materials and monster parts. Twin cats all the way. Fighter Palicos can get two different buffs that improve the damage YOU deal. Any buffs to improve your damage is way better than any damage they can deal. Bimbardier Palicos are fun but they are not as good for damage. Assist Palicos are great. Get one with both poison and shock traps and it’s fantastic. Gathering Palicos are great when farming. If you just aren’t feeling and wanna deal the best damage you can. I think an assist Palicos with both traps paired with a fighter Palicos with both buffs is the best pairing you can grab. As for status attack up which is what FightingCowboy recommended for anyone who also watches him. I run it paired with crit up large. I get procs every single time on every single fight. However I run poison. The poison damage over time that they can deal with crit large and status attack up is way more than any deal they can deal outright with anything else. Status attack up is great just don’t use it with para or sleep currently. Although I tried it with sleep and I still got one from time to time poison is the way to go. But ultimately it doesn’t really matter. All of them are good use whatever you like best. You can perform fine without ANY palicos or palamutes at. Hell if you jus want pure buffs and support go with a fighter and a healer. One to buff you one to heal you. Whatever you want it’s all good.
in regards to status effect up, I have seen blast and poison come from my Two Palicos come up on monsters, have not run para but i couldnt get em to sleep something at all.
I've got a rotating group of Palamutes with different gear setups and effectively have different classes. My healer Palamute, Lonnie, has so many healing skills it's hard for me to get down to a quarter of my health.
Oddly enough I have no issues with status attack, paralysis and sleep procs often for me from my buddies, but knock out king just never does for me lol, how curious.
My palicos sleep most monsters 1 or 2 times using the cataclysm weapon and no status attack up just melee focus and knockout king with attack up L/S with the greatsword as my main weapon thats a huge benefit plus the occasional K.O from knock out king it let's me put big damage onto the monster while its helpless
I've been trying to play with offensive skills in general and I love knockout king. Status attack up is kinda weird. I've had some success giving my dog a sleep weapon, status attack, plus the blitz scroll to make him attack faster. That combo I think worked a bit better but other scrolls he never pulls off sleeps. Other than that, I think the reason I pull off sleeps is because of my gathering cat with the endemic life barrage (and a sleep toad is summoned). So it's definitely a big gamble and Attack Up L is probably better or Crit L
@@rurikhan I know lol I was just messing. Luckily my fave Palamute and Palico both have an additional Attack Up S I can swap out for knockout king when I use severing weapons!
The healing palico’s I’ve found don’t really do allot of healing, like mine rarely uses it’s abilities, I’d maybe see it use the healing bubble twice, and use the ability where it waters the healing plant maybe once a hunt.
i always use gathering until i have a set of gear i actually want. i don't mind grind after that point, so i usually switch to a trap or combat type. but always something with the ability to heal regardless of what it's general type is.
I got SCREWED by my cat putting down a shock trap right when I had just mounted a Tigrex and it made me fall off and waste the mount 🙃 lol. It made me want to stop using shock purrison for a while
I actually didn't know most of what these abilities were, I had heard Gathering was broken OP but I thought it was just from the looting. I went for dual Gathering Palicos for that reason, just to get more loot, if they nerf Gathering palicos and remove the endemic life barrage, I'd be fine with that, otherwise I'd be happy with a Bombadier and a Healer or a Palamute and a Healer. Running sucks and Palamutes help alot with map traversal, but once you get used to the maps, wirebugs and camps they lose alot (not all) of that advantage.
Status weapons are good on palamutes though. I gave a sleep weapon to both my buddies at some point, palamute and palico, and on a monster that was weak to it they got 3 sleep procs off. Granted, it was a slow fight, but 1 or 2 should easily be possible.
Disagree on the status attack up, in my experience the Palamutes with status up procs reliably every hunt, if running double palamute I can get multiple procs
Conclusion: he likes explosion but explosions doesn’t mean optimal. Also cats always get status on monsters, at least one to two a hunt... unless you speed running maybe under 5 minutes which I doubt is your problem.
Just test the different skills - you got plenty of time, and several of them are more useful than they first appear. Also, don't need blast dash when you can just dash almost as fast and consecutively with dual blades ;) Among other things. To be honest, the dual blades aren't even my favorite. I have not played them all thoroughly, but I already can't pick a favorite. They're all pretty badass.
i will never not use the doggo for the simple reason that a) i love dogs and b) ... i made the doggo of my grandparents and of my childhood, my eyes were watering when i saw her again :') also, knock-out-king also works with blades (i think, havent payed too much attention) if you have the steel-umbrella equiped
Watching this while playing with 2 palicos with status effect up and sleep weapons. Going on 2 two fer one hunts in HR I slept each of the monsters twice for a total of 4 sleeps between two hunts. I’m running rugged loader with brutal strike so I’m not the one sleeping the monsters.
But does your blast dash make the gunlance into a chainsaw? I think not! Gunlance chainsaw.. now that would be the factual best weapon but does it exist? Sadly it does not. Strong contender tho!
@@Cassapphic so far I mostly used Para weapons on my buddies, a few times sleep aswell. Usually get 1-2 paralyzes and 0-2 KOs. Both dogs have: Status Atk Up Atkup S Knockout King
Being contrary to what other people are doing just for the sake of being different doesn't make it a good strat. That said, I appreciated a more in depth exploration of the other skills. Still can't turn down double pilfer though.
I almost always use two Palicos for many reasons: 1- Cats > dogs in general 2- MH has always been about the cats ... i never bought into this whole Palamute thing and i hope they dont keep them in future games. 3- Palicos have more personality and they're funnier than Palamutes which are just plain dogs 4- Palicos are flat out better than Palamutes in terms of overall utility
I play like u, I love having them randomly do stuff 😂 Watching a monster flinch from a barrage of bombs or repositioning for anti mine or having a pink palico not attacking anything but small monsters and dropping heals everywhere so I save resources, watching a fighter lose his shit lmao I'm about 12hrs in and I came to this video expecting to get a reason to use dogs but... Meh I'll just unlock the camps I have way more ideas with the cats
I run double dogs, because im allergic to and HATE cats, first thing i did was get a second dog and i have yet to either use a palico OR fail a quest, so buddys dont seem to be super important
I know you've said you aren't a fan of Pilfer but after 18 Magnamalo hunts it was my Palico that nabbed my 1st purple orb. Never going without it again!
the same here pilver got me so many orbs never without the main cause for hunt is materials so...
Bro struggling with getting red orb from vel still, me and my two pilfer cats are prying to the gods
I wish buddy dojo had a function that allowed palicos to teach other palicos their skills, I want to put all my favorite skills on my original palico.
Save your original palico as a preset and then use that to recruit. It's identical to your original. I'm pretty sure that was the intention of it. I've got my two real cats with multiple different builds and all the good skills.
You can recreate you original exactly and just keep checking if you want to. It's a hassle, but you it at least can be done.
They should add it in Master rank like they did in GU
@@slick_3617 but those are just copies ... they're not THE original that was with you from the start. You're thinking about functionality and forgetting about sentimental value.
@@AysarAburrub I get that, I've done some ridiculous things in Pokemon in the name of sentimental value. But they seemed to design it in this game so that upgrading and recruiting is streamlined to be the same thing. You can make the distinction if you want, but I personally feel that's not the way it was intended. It would be weird to add a new mechanic to do the exact same thing it already does.
Man, evade extender makes a hell of a difference
Evade extender on heavy bowgun is a must have. It’s so good for teleporting around the monster.
I don’t want to play without it, it’s such a game changer.
Big time. I'm in the Ruri school of thought where charge blade got twice as good with two ranks.
To the moon, baby!!!!
@@epcarter6 only weapon i might not use it on would be lance so if i want to "combo" i wont jump away, but ye, started using it on swaxe, then put it on hunting horn, i wont play without it anymore
Instant like for the MH3 reference in los kitty’s, made me smile and reminisce. Cha-Cha and Kayamba..Those imps went hard af!
They were what inspired my generation cats lol
I like that you often remind people to do what's fun instead of always doing what's meta. Sometimes it's easy to get all caught up in min maxing everything to the limit and forgetting why you started playing these games to begin with.
That's why I don't research anything. Ignorance is bliss. If I get owned I just change stuff
I'm gonna have to say that Pilfer with double Gathering Palicoes is what got me my Anjanath Gem and Wind serpent Orb
With the play style of normal gunlance, the MinMaxing option in respect to dps is actually TWO palamutes with umbrella and flurry scroll. Their attack frequency is directly related to yours and each shell counts. Go check any GL speed runs and you will see.
Don't forget to Use the Felvine!
what is it for ?
@@robertjif6337 It gives your Palico a bit of health recovery and increases their ability to dodge/block, but most importantly it causes them to attack and use Support Moves FAR more often when activated. It's also completely free to use, so use that felvine bomb whenever you want your cat to do a bit of extra work!
@@CiromBreeze damn I thought it's only for gesture or like felyne bombs lol thanks
@@robertjif6337 It lasts about a minute and a half and has a 5 minute cooldown. So use it once early and then again late in the hunt.
Interesting that 2 accounts can be so different, with both palico and palamute on K.O King and Status Up I'm usually getting one paralysis every hunt. K.O.s on the other hand...
Also, don't ignore Rousing Roar, I've been having a great deal of success with them on Crit Element Builds( that 30% affinity boost is no joke)
The sheer hilarity of a Palamute latched onto a monster's ass via jaws is equal to the utility of a Palico in this hunter's humble opinion.
Yes, but consider this: Tiny cat slowly waddling up to a monster while holding a bomb twice as big as itself above its head
I'm playing with a palico and palamute, both with status attack up and the bell buddy weapon that you can unlock and I usually get 1 or 2 sleeps per hunt. I don't use any status weapons myself, but it's been quite handy.
I feel bad for all the palicoes and palamutes I've layed off because I needed room for that one more perfect one.
I would imagine that if you replaced Zap Blast Spinner with Mega Boomerang you would see more status effect procs as that inherits your equipped weapons properties and is muliti-hitting. Palamute's equipped with the umbrella shield and attack speed scroll are also really good for inflecting status effects and is the only reason I haven't replaced mine yet despite having several strong palicos.
I was looking for a "best skills" type palico guide, and almost didn't click, but I think you really just summed it up for me when you reiterated that speed runners don't even bother and it's not worth overthinking. I'll just pick what I like. Thanks for helping me reframe my perspective on this one.
On PC I'm still unlocking camps and stuff and am running one of each buddy... I have done double Palico before on switch and I think the biggest thing is the safety of sharpening on a dog rather than the travel speed. At higher tiers you can do other things to address sharpening, so I agree it all leans towards the palamute being an early game buddy. I still would like to see more love given do the dogs though because IRL I'm really not a cat guy and if my dog could do more in game I'd run two of em.
If the Bombardier Palico is anything like how it was in GU then it's best to go for the highest raw damage possible. In GU the bomb damage from the Palicos in GU were increased from their raw attack.
My dog and cat have put monsters to sleep so often that I basically sleep bomb monsters every hunt now idk if its cause of the parasol on the dog plus my cat having endemic life barrage but I've even had instances where I get multiple sleep procs in the same hunt without status attack up.
Fighter palico lvl1 ability gives 30% affinity to the party.
I recently switched to Fighter after going almost the entire game with Healer and it's been a nice change! The affinity and earplugs from Rousing Roar as well as the attack and defence from Power Drum makes it so that I've basically got a mini Hunting Horn in my party (which is nice, considering I immediately dropped the weapon after what Capcom did to it)
Though I usually play multiplayer so I never really bothered managing the second Buddy slot, usually I had it empty so that the pet could train in the Dojo instead.
@@CiromBreeze Huh? I’ve heard nothing but good things about “what Capcom did to [hunting horn]”. And from what I understand, there is a switch skill that lets you play it the old way if that’s your preference. What was your issue with it?
@@robingoodfellow8963 The lack of big-damage Encores. The reduced range on the new attacks. The cooldown on the Echo attack. The simplification of the song lists. The removal of the hilt-stab. And worst of all, the removal of the free-flowing combos, no longer can any move follow any other move.
Ironically, the one thing the Switch Skill actually changes is the one thing that I didn't really care about. I don't mind that the songs auto-play, that's actually a really nice feature. I just wish we had that with the old Horn.
@@CiromBreeze Thanks for the reply. I was genuinely curious since this is my first MH game, and all the videos I watched on the HH raved about it. I’m sorry that they neutered it so much for you. HH was one of the first weapons I tried, and while I loved it at first for how effective it was, I eventually switched away because I found it a bit too simplistic and boring, so on that note I kind of get where you’re coming from.
It's funny because I have the complete opposite opinion, I love the songs being simplified so you don't have to spend so long overthinking which dootstick is the best one. And so you can just get your songs out and be good. The combos feel nice, do good damage (from what I feel) and is way better in Rise than any other MH Game I've played where World could only get me to sometimes play the thing if I felt like supporting. Now it supports by killing the damn monster.
As someone who probably played more prowler than anything else in GU, I went out of my way to get all the best skills on my buddies, customized their looks to the max (I had a lot of fun doing it for palamutes especially) and got them fancy armor. I even try out new combos all the time.
What I found:
- Bombardier is my favorite cat and Monster Mine is my favorite skill. Not only does it look awesome, but it also makes for interesting scenarios in hunts and especially rampages. It's really cool to see my palico plant a mine right where monsters pass through because then I can try to engage them and get them to trigger it.
- Shock Tripper is great. It's given me so many opportunities to KO monsters, it's insane. One proc per hunt is basically guaranteed and that's one more KO on top of everything else, even when you KO'd the monster a bunch already.
- Palamutes seem to be better users of status attack up than cats, because palamutes attack with you instead of truly acting on their own. Currently, I run 2 palamutes (yep, trying it out) with Volvidon weapons and they tend to get two paras per hunt. Which is pretty darn decent if you ask me (that's with me running no para whatsoever btw)
- Speaking of, my go to weapon is either Volvidon for KO and para, or Somnacanth (sleep). Personally, I prefer para, but running, say, GS, sleep is way better. KO is just a bonus btw. I don't think my guys would ever get KOs consistently if I didn't run with blunt assist kinsects a lot of the time.
- Endemic life barrage is indeed completely and utterly busted. Gatherers got it all. Barrage, Pilfer, potential Endemic Life Summon or Shock Tripper and they also gather more han other palicoes, so you'll get more random loot from them at the end of a quest.
Also, running Gunlance, optimizing for damage a bit might not even be that bad an idea, because the Howlitzer can run buddy rallye and buff up buddies quite a bit that way. For armor, I go purely for looks. My bombardier needs to have the Bnahabra sunglasses at all times.
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Kayamba and Cha-Cha are looking great!
I have the sleep bell weapon on both my Palico and Palimute and can absolutely confirm they DO put monsters to sleep, I do also use status up on Palico.
I get multiple sleeps per hunt with my Palico and Palamute. I think you're just super unlucky
Status Attack Up is generally only useful when combined with cats that have Mega Boomerang and / or Pilfer (preferably both). Those attacks pierce and can apply a lot of status. I typically get 1-2 sleeps per monster from the Palico weapons alone. Players who prefer Go Fight Win should probably opt for a different passive skill.
Cant wait for the 2.0 live stream. Great video sir!
I've been using a fighter and bomber palico for synergy, but I just built myself a couple of Gunlance sets thanks to Ruri and I'm loving the new style. Very different from my Insect Glaive. Sounds like I need to switch my fighter out for an assist type to hold the monsters still while we set off as many explosions as possible!
The Howlitzer also comes with Buddy Rally as a Ramp-Up skill, more bang for your buck!
I play a healing palicoe and a palamute with two scrolls on it. I've been using my gathering palicoes for the argosy. But after watching this I think I might try and take my gathering felyne with me on the hunt I wanna see that endimic life barrage lol. But during multiplayer I just run with a palamute Idk why I find it hard to traverse with just wirebug.... BTW love your content you've thought me so much about monster hunter and I'm a veteran from MH3 but you've Def made me way better at this game so thank you 👍
recently i enjoyed using a healer and a fighter together. the healer to heal obviously (i tried got one with all slots full of just healing skills), and the fighter to buff me. it's a lot of fun, because i like playing fast and aggressive, and against monsters i know well i can pretty much go the whole hunt without healing myself, because my cat does it for me. some monsters that are more difficult for me do require me to heal, but honestly even in high rank i usually don't have to use my own items, the ones i get during the quest are enough most of the time. and because the fighter buffs me i have some more attack output too, and as a dual blade user i do have a fighter with the stamina thingy (no idea how it's named in english, but the ability where the cat cheers you on and your stamina depletes slower). i'm pretty sure an assist cat would be great for that playstyle too, but i haven't tried that yet ^^'
Anyone run fleet foot feet just to watch their palico slap their ass while taunting a diablos 50x their size?
The bombardier palico gain most explosion damage with range attack up not attack up, but I torally agree with ya, anyone should choose the best palico for his own playstyle
Knockout king on a palamute with the guarding parasol is great because it has an attack that spins kind of like the infernal melody move with hunting horn. Even without knockout king my buddies KO monsters pretty often
If you go with two gathering palicos, do you get double the extra loot? 🤔
for normal hunts i'm using a Palamute and a healer Palico with the vase and the boomerang, both having blast weapons. The horn heal is very strong and the blight removal is also great. I like jumping on a palamute mid fight to heal up or sharpen.
for rampage i'm using two gathering Palicos both with power drum and the shocker, one with healing bubbles and a sleep weapon and one with zaps and a poison weapon. They can inflict a lot of status and blights and thats really handy for rampage.
I did a speedrun with a Affinity and Attack Speed Buffing Palamute with my GLORIOUS Fighter Palico, Manticore.
Manticore, with the Palamute Buffs, will have 60% Affinity usually, but can get higher or lower depending on how healthy your Palamute is. And this 60% Affinity on a RAJANG Weapon and with I get alot of Knockdowns with Whirlwind Assault, More significantly great buffs from Rousing Roar, Power Drum, and Fur-ious
The Speedrun was a Rakna-Kadaki, and the time was around 15 minutes.
@@theprowlerking 15mins isn't fast though . That is a casual players time .
FINALLY the serious talk ive been waiting for...
Cat and pup here. I know that camps and wire bugs are faster but using a pup let’s me get extra materials on the fly (as well as use items) when I want to. I do switch out though :) double pups can really do some decent damage if you use the right items. Less flashy but more numbers.
I finally got my perfect Palico. I got Gathering with Shock-purison, Healing bubble and Powerdrum. Perfect for my SnS which doesn't need the stamina from Go-fight-win. I also got Status attack up, KO king, and negate posion. YEA BOI!!!
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If you're not getting the RNG for the perfect Palico. You can do the Rajang challenge quest and cart. Pick the HBG and avoid the Prism Spiribird then try and hit a personal best of 16 seconds. You only need to fail the quest once for the rotation of Palico to change. Also, once you fail the quest use the move around village option in the menu to get to the Palico trainer guy as there are no load screens and is much faster then running there on foot.
Hope this helps for those on Nintendo. If you're on PC download the Palico editor on Nexus mods.
i got a guarantee sleep every quest... is that because the weapon that ur palico/mute were using? im using the sleep 20 hammer..or maybe u just too good to finish and call it a day too quick 🌚
I've been using the assist / gathering combo for a while. Really like it. My assist palico also throws out healing bubbles, so I don't need a healer palico :-)
Blast dash is a pretty strong argument. I'll just have to suffer with my horn.
The pals really are heavily about your play style but generally... The looting palicos are great since skill one can do a lot of nice along with all the extra loot you get. You can still get healing and dps from their center skills if you want. You can have tons of buddies so no need to skimp on them.
I have two cats in real life. It’s a no brainer to take two palicos with me. Ones a fighter to buff the party, the other is a gatherer with disrupting attacks.
So are the buff moves random? Cause my azsist palico has power drum and buffs the team, flashes monsters, silk bind, poison pitfall. Like I love her lol
@@TheBlackShinigami The fighter’s middle skills are ‘Go Fight Win’, Power Drum, and Shock Purr-ison, so it can buff me in all sorts of ways. The Gatherer has Mega Boomerang, Summeown Endemic Life, and Shock Tripper, so it can disrupt the enemy a bit. I’m also planning on making a bomber Palico at some point with the spinning tops, monster mine, and flash Bombay. It’ll basically be my fireworks expert.
Regarding pali(co's/mutes) and status, I've had good success using the sleep weapon you get from the buddy shrine. Paralyzes I've never been able to get off though, and I've definitely tried. Poison also doesn't seem to be that great to put on them either, haven't really noticed more than one poison proc in a fight happening, and I'm not even sure if that's from them most of the time, or from other happenstance like poison toads, etc. But sleep seems to be working fine for me. Plus that sleep stick is blunt as well.
Even then, I still wouldn't recommend Status Attack Up, because you will not see more than one of those procs happening in a hunt anyway. Maybe in a hyper specialized setup where both you and your cats/dogs focus on a specific status, but eh.
I do think dogs make the better status appliers as well though, the chain weapon you start out with does a lot of small hits, which is generally good for elemental/status.
My Gather Pali has Power Drum, stam cheer, and flash Bombay. The Flash has become one of my favorite skills. He does it at great times, and he uses it often.
I get atleast one sleep a hunt using a palico and palamute with a sleep weapon and status attack.
Same! Curious, what setups do you have for your buddies in terms of skills/Palamute tools?
I've avoided gathering palicoes for a long time, since I somehow thought they'd never attack monsters (like in MHFU) 😅
7:52 I noticed the same thing. 1 Status buddy can get a sleep, but 2 Paralysis Buddies can't. I tested on Great Izuchi. Fight 1 I go ham and the gent a paralysis, Fight 2 I go slower to break the tail and they never got a paralysis even when the second hunt was twice as long. It seems like there attacks are tied to yours, so faster weapons might get more out of status buddies. And why Rurikhan playing Gunlance didn't see any status procs at all.
*Palamute* attacks are tied to your own, but Palicoes attack of their own accord, though they'll generally only attack if your weapon is unsheathed
I literally did not know you could double up on palicos or palamutes in a hunt. I thought it always had to be one of each. Though to be fair, I only started playing a week ago but I kept wishing I could just use one assist palico and one gatherer palico at the same time.
My answer is: Roleplay and choose according to what you want to see in your hunts.
If one day, you thought: "I want to have a team of beyblader palicoes." Then build your beyblader AttackL palicoes and go on hunts with them.
Then if another day, you thought: "I want to try status palamutes." Then build your attack speed, StatusAtkPlus palamutes and go on hunts with them.
Then if another day, you thought: "I want to speedrun." Then remove your two buddies and go on a hunt solo.
Bottomline is: Do what you freaking want to do.
Nice video, thanks for the info. And that gunglance gameplay is sliiiiiick
Waiting for it to come out on PC, going to miss my palicos from GU using flash bombay to troll me. Especially on Valstrax, always adds a bit more challenge when the screen turns yellow and white and the elder dragon is no longer in my field of view. Is it behind me? Is it about to crash down from the sky? Do I have time to use invigoration or get 3 notes off and get into the valor sheathing animation? How many people put flash bombay on all their palicos cause it's going to screw with them more than the monsters and make the fight more interesting? Is there a way in Rise to make it so monsters don't attack my palico and only attack me so I will actually use my palico for combat? I came all the way out to the monsters location to give it the musical performance of its lifetime, it should be focusing on me and not my palico...
Also, the problem with random palicos and palamutes is that the game picks hideous colors for the vast majority of them. They look like someone dropped them in a toilet or a nuclear waste dump, more often than not... I would LOVE it if there were some option to pick either vivid contrasts or complimentary colors while not actually having to choose them myself - not that there's any game to my knowledge that offers a "semi-random" feature with those particular criteria. This game is about as curated random as it gets.
Most of them totally end up looking like garbage though. What I do, is I leave everything "random" EXCEPT I choose a few colors myself in "scout" - and then I do it again after the next mission or whenever one comes along that I want. (It's a little tedious, but it's still far faster than actually designing each one myself) but most of the settings are still random, and I don't have to have a supposed animal that has more in common with poop following me around all over the place.
Then again, you can just recruit them as slow as you want, and wait 10 quests to stumble into one that looks good. I just wanted to get a steady flow of worker ants to get me some items for crafting and all that, as early as possible, but I still didn't want them to look like such hot garbage ;)
Havent watched yet, but if he mentions one more time that having gathering palicoes is selfish JUST because he doesnt like them, im not gonna do anything but I'll be pretty miffed about it for a few minutes. I made Maritére, my beautiful gathering kitty when I started the game and she shall be with me till the day I stop playing!
The Palico I went with was the bombardier. Never looked back after seeing him whip out a huge explosive barrel. Running palamute along with the palico. I can’t leave the doggo out
I use two Palicos because even if I liked dogs (I don't), palamutes just don't... do much. I use a gathering palico and an assist palico because they just have the biggest visible effect on the hunt, and I honestly don't even care about the pilfers from the gathering palico, given that every palico can plunder (if the gathering one does it more, the difference is not very large); endemic life barrage is just godlike.
the xbox version gives you 2 palicoes and 3 palamutes with a different coloured border around their thumbnail picture. Are these 5 gifted buddies identical across everyones game and are they good buddies?
I like having a palimute just because sometimes I want to use items and move around. Especially sharpening my lance
I want my palicos to have "pure" skillsets so I want my healer to only have healing skills, my offensive ones to only have attacks and my support to only have buffs and traps. For passive skills, medic is a must for healer but aside from that it mainly affects their choice of gear. For example, if a palico has status attack boost, they will get a status weapon and the matching set.
Ultimately everyone should play what is most fun. Everyone hunting for weakness exploit end all be all is boring... I was very proud of my turtle lance build that is virtually uncartable, can block anything and takes minimal damage being a counter machine. Max def, constitution, guard, offensive guard, hunger free all because I got a 3 divine blessing 3 constitution 2 slot talisman. The discord I was on ridiculed my build so much I ended up leaving it. I've put a combined 10,000 hours into MH(Ps2), MHF(psp), MHFrU(psp) and MHTri(wii) I don't need an optimized build to finish a hunt. My skill/knowldge is more than enough to carry me at this point. I was a weapon only player on the psp, no traps, bombs, just go ham vs the monsters and I managed to get up to G** before the Dual Black Gravios quest was just too much of a dps test. I enjoy your content because you push fun over "meta" meta is boring, why the F do I want to play and look like everyone else? I want people to see me and be like, I wonder what build he's using not, oh... Another wex cookie cutter player, boooooooring. Keep your wex clown suits and enjoy your hunts that are maybe 1-2 minutes faster at the cost of infinite amounts of fun. On the terms of Palico, healing bubble, power drum and shock purrison are too good to not have so I have one of every palico subclass with those 3 skills. I have 1 full healer palico, one full trapper palico, one full fighter and one full bombardier as well. I rotate them depending on my goals. If I need a ruby or gem drop, well, sorry but pilfer it is. If I'm hunting with my lance, I'm already well protected so I bring fighter bomber. If I'm playing my spreadshot Magnashotgun, I bring a trapper with the fighter. I'm glad MHWorld got the game to become a global franchise, but the part of me that grew up being the only MH player in my surrounding area/possibly state hates what the community at large has decided how the game should be played... Like, I have a 2/3 evade extender 2/3 bubble dance 2 tier 2 slot talisman. That thing breaks the game for me. Every build I do has max evade with free evasion window. I used your SnS build idea to make a Dual Sword brutal strike build. Counter strike, Resuscitate, Atk 7 using tigrex blades. You're so damn mobile and deal good damage. If you're evasive your damage is boosted, if you get hit your damage gets boosted more. The build works so good! But even that would get criticized because no wex, no narga blades mleh... My character looks straight out of Assassin's Creed for that build too. Asthetics are inportant. Juryatodus and Anjanath sets have a soft spot for me. Juryatodus set also has a native 13 slots to work with just in it's base 5 piece set. Add a weapon with 2 and a talisman with 2 and have fun with that. Best for Lance/Gunlance builds though. Look like a prehistoric paladin (*.*)
Rurikhan: "Gathering palicos are a bit broken right now"
Me & my 2 gathering palicos speedrunning Sunbreak prep: u don't say 👀
I got myself a bombardier Palico and called it Mr. Torgue. Perfection. 😂
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yo, totally unrelated, but since you used it in that awesome wyvernlance clip against narga- i'm *super* happy tobi-kadachi somehow lucked into having a unique non-bone bit weapon for lance and gunlance.
Tobi's gunlance was one of my favorite designs in world.
@@rurikhan Wait, was it *always* unique? I never remembered seeing the shield for tobi's lance and gunlance at all in worldborne- same with pukei-pukei. But if they did, I'm glad. Glad some new monsters managed to have unique looks in that game.
Insect Glaive can basically blast dash anytime in air back to back to back to back and come down with 800+ dmg wyvern dives to the face whilst having ear plugs and flinch free built in. Yea, sorry Gun Lance in World you was bae. Here IG is just too good. I feel I can get around just as fast without the dog. I love the dogs but two Palicos is just objectively better in every way. They have better buffs, traps, provide more damage opportunities, possibly deal more damage themselfs, and on top of that they gather more materials and monster parts. Twin cats all the way. Fighter Palicos can get two different buffs that improve the damage YOU deal. Any buffs to improve your damage is way better than any damage they can deal. Bimbardier Palicos are fun but they are not as good for damage. Assist Palicos are great. Get one with both poison and shock traps and it’s fantastic. Gathering Palicos are great when farming. If you just aren’t feeling and wanna deal the best damage you can. I think an assist Palicos with both traps paired with a fighter Palicos with both buffs is the best pairing you can grab. As for status attack up which is what FightingCowboy recommended for anyone who also watches him. I run it paired with crit up large. I get procs every single time on every single fight. However I run poison. The poison damage over time that they can deal with crit large and status attack up is way more than any deal they can deal outright with anything else. Status attack up is great just don’t use it with para or sleep currently. Although I tried it with sleep and I still got one from time to time poison is the way to go. But ultimately it doesn’t really matter. All of them are good use whatever you like best. You can perform fine without ANY palicos or palamutes at. Hell if you jus want pure buffs and support go with a fighter and a healer. One to buff you one to heal you. Whatever you want it’s all good.
in regards to status effect up, I have seen blast and poison come from my Two Palicos come up on monsters, have not run para but i couldnt get em to sleep something at all.
I've got a rotating group of Palamutes with different gear setups and effectively have different classes. My healer Palamute, Lonnie, has so many healing skills it's hard for me to get down to a quarter of my health.
Oddly enough I have no issues with status attack, paralysis and sleep procs often for me from my buddies, but knock out king just never does for me lol, how curious.
My palicos sleep most monsters 1 or 2 times using the cataclysm weapon and no status attack up just melee focus and knockout king with attack up L/S with the greatsword as my main weapon thats a huge benefit plus the occasional K.O from knock out king it let's me put big damage onto the monster while its helpless
so once you select a palamute and palico are they yours forever or they just temporally helpers?
I've been trying to play with offensive skills in general and I love knockout king. Status attack up is kinda weird. I've had some success giving my dog a sleep weapon, status attack, plus the blitz scroll to make him attack faster. That combo I think worked a bit better but other scrolls he never pulls off sleeps.
Other than that, I think the reason I pull off sleeps is because of my gathering cat with the endemic life barrage (and a sleep toad is summoned). So it's definitely a big gamble and Attack Up L is probably better or Crit L
Give the palamute the umbrella with a sleep weapon and you will have the monster sleeping at least two times in a quest. It's really OP.
Oh _now_ you tell me that Knockout King doesn't work without blunt weapons!
Not my fault!
@@rurikhan I know lol I was just messing. Luckily my fave Palamute and Palico both have an additional Attack Up S I can swap out for knockout king when I use severing weapons!
The healing palico’s I’ve found don’t really do allot of healing, like mine rarely uses it’s abilities, I’d maybe see it use the healing bubble twice, and use the ability where it waters the healing plant maybe once a hunt.
i always use gathering until i have a set of gear i actually want. i don't mind grind after that point, so i usually switch to a trap or combat type. but always something with the ability to heal regardless of what it's general type is.
I got SCREWED by my cat putting down a shock trap right when I had just mounted a Tigrex and it made me fall off and waste the mount 🙃 lol. It made me want to stop using shock purrison for a while
I actually didn't know most of what these abilities were, I had heard Gathering was broken OP but I thought it was just from the looting. I went for dual Gathering Palicos for that reason, just to get more loot, if they nerf Gathering palicos and remove the endemic life barrage, I'd be fine with that, otherwise I'd be happy with a Bombadier and a Healer or a Palamute and a Healer. Running sucks and Palamutes help alot with map traversal, but once you get used to the maps, wirebugs and camps they lose alot (not all) of that advantage.
Status weapons are good on palamutes though. I gave a sleep weapon to both my buddies at some point, palamute and palico, and on a monster that was weak to it they got 3 sleep procs off. Granted, it was a slow fight, but 1 or 2 should easily be possible.
Disagree on the status attack up, in my experience the Palamutes with status up procs reliably every hunt, if running double palamute I can get multiple procs
What equipment are you using on ur palamutes? I'm having trouble procing paralyze with 2 palamutes holding brief case weapon.
@@frostyfeet4932 Barking bell with Dual-Bladed Chain, and umbrella. I've read about more optimal set ups, but this is what I use. YMMV
Conclusion: he likes explosion but explosions doesn’t mean optimal.
Also cats always get status on monsters, at least one to two a hunt... unless you speed running maybe under 5 minutes which I doubt is your problem.
Just test the different skills - you got plenty of time, and several of them are more useful than they first appear.
Also, don't need blast dash when you can just dash almost as fast and consecutively with dual blades ;) Among other things.
To be honest, the dual blades aren't even my favorite. I have not played them all thoroughly, but I already can't pick a favorite. They're all pretty badass.
i will never not use the doggo for the simple reason that a) i love dogs and b) ... i made the doggo of my grandparents and of my childhood, my eyes were watering when i saw her again :')
also, knock-out-king also works with blades (i think, havent payed too much attention) if you have the steel-umbrella equiped
status + umbrella works wonders for palamutes
I've waited so long for this vid.
Is there any benefits to having 2 palamutes?
i prefer power drum over the summon endemic life. i know it buffs me but i dont know the exact values. does anybody know?
Me: *Laughs in Spirit Helmbreaker*
Watching this while playing with 2 palicos with status effect up and sleep weapons. Going on 2 two fer one hunts in HR I slept each of the monsters twice for a total of 4 sleeps between two hunts. I’m running rugged loader with brutal strike so I’m not the one sleeping the monsters.
But does your blast dash make the gunlance into a chainsaw? I think not! Gunlance chainsaw.. now that would be the factual best weapon but does it exist? Sadly it does not.
Strong contender tho!
In gu i ran 2 felynes with paralisys weapons and they got one proc of paralysis each hunt minimum, my goats
So needed this vid
I find Palamute a bit dum.... when you try to mount it in order to run after a monster, it is elsewhere fighting small monsters while I run by foot.
you can change it's ai to only target large monsters and ignore small ones
Didn't know you could, thanks
How do you reload the gunlance in the air?
Hail cutter
@@rurikhan ah thank you. I wasn't aware you could combo into it from a blast dash.
Genuinely dont get why someone would go double palamute unless they just liked having dogs
Its better for inflicting Statuses.
@@AleksVin I guess they’re best for sleep (for sleep bombing) or blast then?
@@Cassapphic so far I mostly used Para weapons on my buddies, a few times sleep aswell. Usually get 1-2 paralyzes and 0-2 KOs.
Both dogs have:
Status Atk Up
Atkup S
Knockout King
Being contrary to what other people are doing just for the sake of being different doesn't make it a good strat. That said, I appreciated a more in depth exploration of the other skills. Still can't turn down double pilfer though.
Well, I guess I am going to look for new Palicos then...
I almost always use two Palicos for many reasons:
1- Cats > dogs in general
2- MH has always been about the cats ... i never bought into this whole Palamute thing and i hope they dont keep them in future games.
3- Palicos have more personality and they're funnier than Palamutes which are just plain dogs
4- Palicos are flat out better than Palamutes in terms of overall utility
Gotten a wyvern gem from my gather cat in a quest with noone who drops it.
I play like u, I love having them randomly do stuff 😂
Watching a monster flinch from a barrage of bombs or repositioning for anti mine or having a pink palico not attacking anything but small monsters and dropping heals everywhere so I save resources, watching a fighter lose his shit lmao I'm about 12hrs in and I came to this video expecting to get a reason to use dogs but... Meh I'll just unlock the camps I have way more ideas with the cats
I've played about 70 hours of early game and have seen many sleeps from my palamutes and palicos
Y U NO USE DOGO ANYMORE RURIKHAN?
just kiddin' i saw the last podcasts
Thank you!
Odd,my palis get sleep off at least once a fight when im solo.
I run double dogs, because im allergic to and HATE cats, first thing i did was get a second dog and i have yet to either use a palico OR fail a quest, so buddys dont seem to be super important