Love the analysis of a fellow NIKKE lore enthusiast. To back up your argument regarding Red Hood and Rapi's strength, Yoo Hyung Seok (NIKKE's Game Director) stated that Dorothy is indeed the strongest Goddess member after Liliweiss. Paired with her qualities before her downfall in OverZone, she was the most suitable leader of the Goddess squad after Liliweiss, Red Hood and LG's absence. And yeah, if we include all the other knowledge and explainations we have gained, Rapi wiping the floor with two heretics and a special individual is the result of her secret body combined with the dual core overdrive. PS: Love your theory about Liliweiss with a dual core. It would make sense why she was so strong, but also prone to physical breakdown requiring maintenance. The explaination with Fairy Tail Model No.1 dying thus also makes a lot of sense.
Very interesting that Rapi was able to overdrive 2 cores to fight off THREE heretics which is really impressive. I can't wait for when Nikke explores more the lore
You seriously need more exposure, because damn. I wouldn’t have made even Half the connections you have, even if I’ve read/seen all the stuff mentioned Keep up the good work, ‘cuz I’m here for it.
I think it would be interesting if the Fairy Tail Model 1, who "died" was a duel core powered Nikke aka Sleeping Beauty. Her "death' was lied to, even to Lilith and the legendary commander. Then where is she? Well in the Ark of course, she's the Battery that fuels the ark and gives it power in the first place.
This actually makes a lot of sense. If my theory that Rapi and Red Hood are fusing is correct, i think that Rapi may be on track to becoming the next Lilliweiss if what you think is real... Maybe even an evolution, since Rapi has two bodies fused into one. It might help alleviate the stress caused by Overdrive, thus not shortening her lifespan. And once she reaches that level, i think its when we'll get her alter.
I think that has a potential to be true, because Rapi doesn't seem to experience any drawbacks from using Overdrive itself. Since all the drawbacks she experienced so far are related to the secret body instead. And in chapter 30 those drawbacks no longer exists. So at this point Rapi just need to figure out how to access her full power, and we'll finally get her SSR version.
@@TakenaShin Exactly. It would make a lot of sense to do that. We an expect some Physical changes, some red hood motiffs. Heck, her weapon might even change into either a Sniper, or an LMG(Since Anis has a Grenade Launcher, and Neon has her KSG shotgun). I don't think they'd make her into a Submachinegun unit tho. Seeing how SMG's are the weakest weapon type.
To add onto this idea that cores allow for huge boosts of power; to my knowledge the only confirmed case of a weapon that has been infused with a Nikke's core is Scarlet's sword, which is infused with Rose's core. I faintly remember Scarlet mentioning somewhere that she's surprised the sword has held up for so many decades, so it's entirely possible that the sword became more durable and powerful because of Rose's core. considering that I believe Scarlet to be the pilgrim most likely to die in the future, I wouldn't be surprised if she went out fighting after a seppuku like action that causes a reaction between her core with her sister's core, as I believe it would also tie into her folk tale.
@@TakenaShin I really like your videos. They help me a lot in building foundations to my own theories since I've only played the game for about two months and I'm stuck in the middle of chapter 23. Because of that my knowledge on the lore and story of the game is limited. What I know I've gotten through the event archives or through youtube videos that showcase the event stories.
@@Kuro_Archive I'm glad you liked them, it's really nice to find other people who are also interested in the game's lore. I hope we can continue sharing ideas and discussing Nikke lore in the future.
I m really curious about the story between Red hood and Rapi. Because people are genuinely calling her a defective type since she also doesn't have that particular stuff that made her immortal nimph was it called again?. Maybe Liliweiss is not other than the core of the first Nikke with the core of liliweiss and since it worked they maybe wanted to have another try with Rapi. So curious to see how the story will unfold.
I wonder if *spoilers for late game story, including Chapters 31 and 32* . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Red Hood choosing to "die" in order to let Rapi regain control of her body made Rapi weaker. While there are traces of Red Hood left in Rapi after the Commander administered Ingrid's vaccine, perhaps that second core stopped working or went away, leading to Overdrive no longer working. Rapi could still access some of Red Hood's power, as demonstrated by her fight with Behemoth in Chapter 31 and 32, but Behemoth easily defeated her. Or maybe Behemoth, Leviathan, and the other Heretic Beasts are just that strong, as Cinderella was pretty much in a stalemate with Behemoth. Over a hundred years have passed, so the Four Beasts have most likely evolved beyond the first generation of Grimms Model Nikkes and can match the second generation. It wouldn't be a stretch to say that Overdrive isn't that effective against them. I do like the idea that Liliweiss may have been a dual-core Nikke with Overdrive, as well. With her immense strength comes great risk, as she basically cut her life short in order to escape the fight with Anachiro while carrying the entire Goddess Squad. Fairy Tail Model 1 was most likely the alpha model dual-core Nikke, and she ended up dying due to not being able to control her power, though with the lessons learned from her, the beta model of Liliweiss could survive as long as she did.
@@Ricelord4 Ingrid mentioned in chapter 26 that Red Hood's body is no longer inside Rapi. So yeah she lost access to Red Hood's core. The power that Rapi is currently using is most likely just the Secret Body or her ability to transform into Red Hood, that's why she's a lot weaker than before. Since Overdrive and Secret Body are separate abilities, the only boost Rapi gains in her current transformation is Red Hood's specs and not the immense power provided by the Overdrive state. As for Cinderella, her fight against Behemoth ended in a stalemate because Cindy is in a severely weakened state after just waking up. She's basically a coma patient who had to fight a healthy individual after just waking up. So it's actually impressive that Cinderella managed to get a stalemate against Behemoth who has access to her full power. But it's been confirmed that Full Power Cinderella/Anachiro is the strongest. So hopefully she can regain her full power before the war starts. But honestly I'm a bit disappointed that Rapi wasn't able to do much against Behemoth even with the Red Hood transformation. But I guess it just shows the difference in experience between her and her mentor.
I honestly want to know if the commander its even human? You know with Noise voice line(bond10) say thatthe commander has no heart beat, its body it always cold and in chapter 24/25 his chest became hot, plus the crystal in the crystal chamber try to enter inside him, wich only do that when they want to absorb electricity and became bigger and kill the eletronic device(Wich did happened to two commanders in the side quests, wich both had something like pacemaker inside them, but a pacemaker help the heart beat) wich the commander its fully absent about,and chaterbox alway say that there is something imside the commander that interest him
@@TakenaShin sorry if I disturb you, I do want to point out other things about the commander that are off, for example his recovery speed and it's learning ability being abnormal 1) in the story it was pointed out by crow(chapter 24/25) that the commander recovered much faster that he should from Yuni ability, even his injured made by Modernia recovered in a couple of days even tho normally it should take month, hot his broken legs recovered pretty fast Wich normally would take severa weeks or a month, even when he meet Syuen she was scared and surprised on how the commander was able to resist Yuni an Mihara powers for a while, including the pain he should suffer from the bullet that Syuen shoot Mihara, the commander shouldn't be able to stay up becouse of the pain 2) his learning skills are abnormal, even Johan was surprised by how fast the commander learn things, even in bond story like Centi(she asked for his help and he end up learning a lot of skill related to her work), D killer wife(he learned how to act from her), Yan(he learned several business skill by working for her), most of the skill he learned where learned mostly by observing them, for example he became Yan best seller and employee by simply imitating her from what he saw her doing, and even tho he never did most of this things in the past, he became pretty good at them, from what he learned from Centi he made the mini Ark at the end of bau wow paradise, from what he learned from Yan in the story he and the counters have stopped complaining about money shortage, and thanks to Exia and Poli he was able to investigate in several mission by himself like in the hot spring event minigame and the the previous Christmas event to find Anne mother
@@villager2438 don't worry you're not disturbing me at all, I always enjoy having discussions about the story. I'll be honest I never really considered how fast he learns new skills in my theories. So thank you for pointing it out. I'll be sure to factor it in the theories I have about him.
@@TakenaShin there it's also another thing that it's not related to the commander but more on his memory, in GODDESS OF VICTORY NIKKE about the world, at 0:37 we are can see a girl Wich it's completely withe, the only thing we can see it her eyes and mouth just like the girl in the flash back(expect the eyes), and the fact that she its in space, on a space station, and from what we know from the past event Red Rash there isn't no way to go to space as the lift got destroy, and as we know there it's only one thing in space from what we know, the first rapture queen
It's not named Overdrive, just Full Active. "Overdrive" is just a made-up term due to bad English localization. I've checked the Korean (original) and Japanese version it's referred as "Full Active". Also (in JP dub) Neon never refers it as Overdrive she just assumed that Rapi used an anime like move/power up 😂 I just don't trust Nikke's localization, it's just bad.
Yeah, the localization does have a lot of inconsistencies. I've also noticed Neon's line in the JP dub since it's what I use when I play the game (I only use the EN dub for the Videos). And that line is honestly more in character than what we got in the localization. I thought that it made more sense for "Full Active" to refer to the activation of Red Hood's core/body, than to the reaction between the two cores itself. But I couldn't find a proper term for the Core reactions in the JP Dub so I decided to settle with Overdrive. Since I thought that Overdrive sounded cooler than calling it dual core mode 😂 And now that you've pointed it out, I realized that I forgot to clarify it in the video. So thank you for bringing it to my attention! I'll make sure to clarify it in my next one, specially since the dual core reaction is going to be a small part of it.
Love the analysis of a fellow NIKKE lore enthusiast. To back up your argument regarding Red Hood and Rapi's strength, Yoo Hyung Seok (NIKKE's Game Director) stated that Dorothy is indeed the strongest Goddess member after Liliweiss. Paired with her qualities before her downfall in OverZone, she was the most suitable leader of the Goddess squad after Liliweiss, Red Hood and LG's absence.
And yeah, if we include all the other knowledge and explainations we have gained, Rapi wiping the floor with two heretics and a special individual is the result of her secret body combined with the dual core overdrive.
PS: Love your theory about Liliweiss with a dual core. It would make sense why she was so strong, but also prone to physical breakdown requiring maintenance. The explaination with Fairy Tail Model No.1 dying thus also makes a lot of sense.
I can say chatterbox is the coolest rapture😭🙏
Just wait till Rapi reaches her maximum overdrive, hopefully she doesn't get imploded when reaching that state
It's amazing how rapi basically becomes god.
Very interesting that Rapi was able to overdrive 2 cores to fight off THREE heretics which is really impressive. I can't wait for when Nikke explores more the lore
4:37 the meme took me so long realize what it meant XD
You seriously need more exposure, because damn. I wouldn’t have made even Half the connections you have, even if I’ve read/seen all the stuff mentioned
Keep up the good work, ‘cuz I’m here for it.
@@ShadyKnave thanks I'll do my best to make more Nikke lore (theory) videos in the future.
A potential for SSR Rapi.
Interesting... i havent thought about my Lilimommy with dual cores... it does make sense..
Here's a video idea. The in-depth review about the mysterious character sixo?
@@saeukanoch.8166 I have plans to make a video about Sixo in the future but not anytime soon.
I think it would be interesting if the Fairy Tail Model 1, who "died" was a duel core powered Nikke aka Sleeping Beauty. Her "death' was lied to, even to Lilith and the legendary commander. Then where is she? Well in the Ark of course, she's the Battery that fuels the ark and gives it power in the first place.
That's Sixo evil schema
Love this video, i learned so much xD
@@saeukanoch.8166 glad you liked it 😊
damn this might have to take the number 1 spot from the commanders a clone and i love that theory welp time to change my rankings again LOL
A channel perfectly targeted to feed my Nikke lore hyperfixation 😌
This actually makes a lot of sense. If my theory that Rapi and Red Hood are fusing is correct, i think that Rapi may be on track to becoming the next Lilliweiss if what you think is real... Maybe even an evolution, since Rapi has two bodies fused into one. It might help alleviate the stress caused by Overdrive, thus not shortening her lifespan. And once she reaches that level, i think its when we'll get her alter.
I think that has a potential to be true, because Rapi doesn't seem to experience any drawbacks from using Overdrive itself. Since all the drawbacks she experienced so far are related to the secret body instead. And in chapter 30 those drawbacks no longer exists. So at this point Rapi just need to figure out how to access her full power, and we'll finally get her SSR version.
@@TakenaShin Exactly. It would make a lot of sense to do that. We an expect some Physical changes, some red hood motiffs. Heck, her weapon might even change into either a Sniper, or an LMG(Since Anis has a Grenade Launcher, and Neon has her KSG shotgun). I don't think they'd make her into a Submachinegun unit tho. Seeing how SMG's are the weakest weapon type.
@@Skullfiend she could also use her fists like Lilith 😂
@@TakenaShin I mean, She could be like Yang from RWBY and have Weaponized Gautlets, but i think it would fit Guilty more personally lol
To add onto this idea that cores allow for huge boosts of power; to my knowledge the only confirmed case of a weapon that has been infused with a Nikke's core is Scarlet's sword, which is infused with Rose's core. I faintly remember Scarlet mentioning somewhere that she's surprised the sword has held up for so many decades, so it's entirely possible that the sword became more durable and powerful because of Rose's core.
considering that I believe Scarlet to be the pilgrim most likely to die in the future, I wouldn't be surprised if she went out fighting after a seppuku like action that causes a reaction between her core with her sister's core, as I believe it would also tie into her folk tale.
@@Kuro_Archive yes Scarlet revealed that, in the hard mode ending of the New Year New Sword event.
@@TakenaShin I really like your videos. They help me a lot in building foundations to my own theories since I've only played the game for about two months and I'm stuck in the middle of chapter 23. Because of that my knowledge on the lore and story of the game is limited. What I know I've gotten through the event archives or through youtube videos that showcase the event stories.
@@Kuro_Archive I'm glad you liked them, it's really nice to find other people who are also interested in the game's lore. I hope we can continue sharing ideas and discussing Nikke lore in the future.
finally SSR Rapi.
I m really curious about the story between Red hood and Rapi.
Because people are genuinely calling her a defective type since she also doesn't have that particular stuff that made her immortal nimph was it called again?.
Maybe Liliweiss is not other than the core of the first Nikke with the core of liliweiss and since it worked they maybe wanted to have another try with Rapi.
So curious to see how the story will unfold.
@@Dragonero1700 yeah hopefully we'll find out more about their past soon. Along with SSR Rapi.
i giggled at dual core(as cpu) nikke :3
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Red Hood choosing to "die" in order to let Rapi regain control of her body made Rapi weaker. While there are traces of Red Hood left in Rapi after the Commander administered Ingrid's vaccine, perhaps that second core stopped working or went away, leading to Overdrive no longer working. Rapi could still access some of Red Hood's power, as demonstrated by her fight with Behemoth in Chapter 31 and 32, but Behemoth easily defeated her.
Or maybe Behemoth, Leviathan, and the other Heretic Beasts are just that strong, as Cinderella was pretty much in a stalemate with Behemoth. Over a hundred years have passed, so the Four Beasts have most likely evolved beyond the first generation of Grimms Model Nikkes and can match the second generation. It wouldn't be a stretch to say that Overdrive isn't that effective against them.
I do like the idea that Liliweiss may have been a dual-core Nikke with Overdrive, as well. With her immense strength comes great risk, as she basically cut her life short in order to escape the fight with Anachiro while carrying the entire Goddess Squad. Fairy Tail Model 1 was most likely the alpha model dual-core Nikke, and she ended up dying due to not being able to control her power, though with the lessons learned from her, the beta model of Liliweiss could survive as long as she did.
@@Ricelord4 Ingrid mentioned in chapter 26 that Red Hood's body is no longer inside Rapi. So yeah she lost access to Red Hood's core.
The power that Rapi is currently using is most likely just the Secret Body or her ability to transform into Red Hood, that's why she's a lot weaker than before. Since Overdrive and Secret Body are separate abilities, the only boost Rapi gains in her current transformation is Red Hood's specs and not the immense power provided by the Overdrive state.
As for Cinderella, her fight against Behemoth ended in a stalemate because Cindy is in a severely weakened state after just waking up. She's basically a coma patient who had to fight a healthy individual after just waking up. So it's actually impressive that Cinderella managed to get a stalemate against Behemoth who has access to her full power. But it's been confirmed that Full Power Cinderella/Anachiro is the strongest. So hopefully she can regain her full power before the war starts.
But honestly I'm a bit disappointed that Rapi wasn't able to do much against Behemoth even with the Red Hood transformation. But I guess it just shows the difference in experience between her and her mentor.
I honestly want to know if the commander its even human? You know with Noise voice line(bond10) say thatthe commander has no heart beat, its body it always cold and in chapter 24/25 his chest became hot, plus the crystal in the crystal chamber try to enter inside him, wich only do that when they want to absorb electricity and became bigger and kill the eletronic device(Wich did happened to two commanders in the side quests, wich both had something like pacemaker inside them, but a pacemaker help the heart beat) wich the commander its fully absent about,and chaterbox alway say that there is something imside the commander that interest him
I already have theories on that topic that I'm already preparing for a future video. So please look forward to it.
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@@TakenaShin sorry if I disturb you, I do want to point out other things about the commander that are off, for example his recovery speed and it's learning ability being abnormal
1) in the story it was pointed out by crow(chapter 24/25) that the commander recovered much faster that he should from Yuni ability, even his injured made by Modernia recovered in a couple of days even tho normally it should take month, hot his broken legs recovered pretty fast Wich normally would take severa weeks or a month, even when he meet Syuen she was scared and surprised on how the commander was able to resist Yuni an Mihara powers for a while, including the pain he should suffer from the bullet that Syuen shoot Mihara, the commander shouldn't be able to stay up becouse of the pain
2) his learning skills are abnormal, even Johan was surprised by how fast the commander learn things, even in bond story like Centi(she asked for his help and he end up learning a lot of skill related to her work), D killer wife(he learned how to act from her), Yan(he learned several business skill by working for her), most of the skill he learned where learned mostly by observing them, for example he became Yan best seller and employee by simply imitating her from what he saw her doing, and even tho he never did most of this things in the past, he became pretty good at them, from what he learned from Centi he made the mini Ark at the end of bau wow paradise, from what he learned from Yan in the story he and the counters have stopped complaining about money shortage, and thanks to Exia and Poli he was able to investigate in several mission by himself like in the hot spring event minigame and the the previous Christmas event to find Anne mother
@@villager2438 don't worry you're not disturbing me at all, I always enjoy having discussions about the story.
I'll be honest I never really considered how fast he learns new skills in my theories. So thank you for pointing it out. I'll be sure to factor it in the theories I have about him.
@@TakenaShin there it's also another thing that it's not related to the commander but more on his memory, in GODDESS OF VICTORY NIKKE about the world, at 0:37 we are can see a girl Wich it's completely withe, the only thing we can see it her eyes and mouth just like the girl in the flash back(expect the eyes), and the fact that she its in space, on a space station, and from what we know from the past event Red Rash there isn't no way to go to space as the lift got destroy, and as we know there it's only one thing in space from what we know, the first rapture queen
So since heretics used to be Nikkes could they use duel cores?
I don't really see why they can't, so I think the answer is yes.
Damn if they figure that out it’s over
@@XJosauceX Overdrive Nihilister and Overdrive Anachiro sounds scary ngl.
It's not named Overdrive, just Full Active.
"Overdrive" is just a made-up term due to bad English localization.
I've checked the Korean (original) and Japanese version it's referred as "Full Active".
Also (in JP dub) Neon never refers it as Overdrive she just assumed that Rapi used an anime like move/power up 😂
I just don't trust Nikke's localization, it's just bad.
Yeah, the localization does have a lot of inconsistencies. I've also noticed Neon's line in the JP dub since it's what I use when I play the game (I only use the EN dub for the Videos). And that line is honestly more in character than what we got in the localization.
I thought that it made more sense for "Full Active" to refer to the activation of Red Hood's core/body, than to the reaction between the two cores itself. But I couldn't find a proper term for the Core reactions in the JP Dub so I decided to settle with Overdrive. Since I thought that Overdrive sounded cooler than calling it dual core mode 😂
And now that you've pointed it out, I realized that I forgot to clarify it in the video. So thank you for bringing it to my attention! I'll make sure to clarify it in my next one, specially since the dual core reaction is going to be a small part of it.