Richard Florida: Want Job Stability? Get Creative.
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I believe he wasn't actually speaking to us on an individual basis about how we can all be successful if you just work hard. He was suggesting we start thinking about how we get more people qualified to do these creative type jobs on a policy level.
I used worked in a glass factory, i used that money to pay for college and now i am about to start my own company.
What this all means for people is: Know what you want to do. Try out things to get there. If something doesn't work, ditch it and try again.
We must also remember that there must be a large working force to support this giant influx of ideas, who will build these giant buildings designed by all these architects if 100% of us are creative thinkers? There must be an underprivileged class to do the work to materialise these ideas
I am not sure if I would consider doctors as part of creative class. They are trained to follow very strict rules of how they should treat patients. This is important because patient-lives are at stake, a doctor would not use an experimental therapy if an existing therapy already exists.
reducing taxing and taking away regulations are directly against capitalism and free market, reducing taxes also means big corporations gain even more money and since they are big companies the money they get is even higher (what means they start to take small businesses out of market), taking away regulations will cause more health issues, accidents, lower income for workers etc. depending on what regualtion we are speaking of, they are there for a reason
to me creativity isn't just painting, drawing and arts. it's the talent to come up with unique solutions no one has thought of before, which does apply to business and managment as well
Inducer? Yes. Source? No. As a fellow pothead I can't stress enough how important moderation is, ESPECIALLY if you use it to boost creativity. It does give you a different angle - forces you to try new approaches - but if you only do [your creative acitivity] high you risk feeling empty the rest of the time.
As long as you're content with your creative thinking while sober everything's fine.
Because it's your best shot. Come up with something that will make money, do it. it's not rocket science for sure, but so many people forget how easy it is to improve. W/e it is you want to, whether it's willpower, creativity, intellect, weight, the knowledge we use, it's applications, our movements, planning, productivity, it should constantly be changing and growing as you learn through the experience of life, and compare your strategy with others. In w/e topic you want really. It's amazing
@Sean Kelley its not about realizing it, its about being raised correctly and having an aware, stable brain.
Being creative is one thing. Being allowed to be creative to enhance the work environment is completely separate. Being dumped into the "low skill workforce" because I didn't want to have a large college debt weight over me is my choice. Do I dislike being "low skill" working poor? Yes. I am not allowed to improve what I see because the management that makes 5x or more than I do, doesn't want to hear it. If I don't get to participate in the change, then I go to another "low skill" job?
2. Security and insurance would also be provided, but thanks to the fact that there would be no monopoly (governement), these services could be sold more cheaply and would be more efficient. Crime would also be minimal, because many laws that imprison people for victimless crimes wouldn’t exist. Education on the other hand, would also have more levels of competition, and changes in the school system wouldn’t require huge reforms that can take years and waste lots of money.
Rothbard maintained, first, that every government "presumes to establish a compulsory monopoly of defense (police and courts) service over some geographical area. So that individual property owners who prefer to subscribe to another defense company within that area are not allowed to do so"; and, second, that every government obtains its income by stealing, euphemistically labeled "taxation"...
Im an engineer, I make airplane components. it's not really a creative job but you can forget about having a stable economy without us, same goes for agriculture and who's going to build your houses if everyone is in a creative job.
Australia's already using autonomous mining and transport robots (cars and drills). They can work all day and night, in theory, but are fairly new - so are still being monitored very closely.
There's also a current project underway to create a robot that is capable of learning how to make a better version of itself. It would, in theory, make infinitely better generations of itself over a period of time.
So don't be too shocked if/when this stuff becomes commonplace.
Note that a large creative class can only exist in ALREADY prosperous nations, or among prosperous members of developing nations. It is now almost daily advancements in technology that is allowing the rise of a creative class
I would only suggest to switch "every single human being is creative" to "every single human being has POTENTIAL for being creative"... It's just like saying every single human being is unique and special, and then going out to the real world to buy groceries or something and looking at people "do their thing" I mean, most people have the ability to make me want to pull out my hair!
The reason that the workforce in the cities mentioned are shifting to a "creative class" workforce is because their unemployment rates, as a whole, are really bad. Blue collar job-seekers have gone to midwestern and southern cities for work and cities like that are actually growing. The benefits of catering to a "creative class" aren't much different from appealing to the upper class. They don't help poor people and the working class flees as a result. But who cares!? Right, Florida?
creativity isn't a "have it or you don't" type of thing, despite what society has raised you to think. It's just weaned out of your every day life by, well... every day life. You can train your creativity just like any other talent.
As i learned from SimsCity, a society needs people who do the shitty jobs. But's let's be honest, overeducation is one of our last fears to have.
Cheap labor keeps the prices down, prices are kept down because of public demand and the competitive marketing arena.
People want cheap stuff so it put pressure on companies to deliever cheap stuff or go bankrupt because some other company deliever it cheaper.
He didn't say that. He said growth is in creative industries. Growth Implies demand. So demand for creative work is up, demand for non-creative muscle work is down. Period. BTW creative means doctor, business person or lawyer. Creative means using your brain, and not your muscles. If we ever run into a point where we have so many people doing creative work, that we don't have enough people to flip burgers at mcdonalds, that would be a good problem to have.
The fact is: the physically demanding jobs are a thing of the past, in general if we consider the crescent automation of the production processes, and in the US case in special if you consider that the jobs have been shipped to China where the work force is way cheaper. The time when the people could just turn off their brains and repeat some brainless activity for hours and be well paid for it is coming to an end soon. "Think" is the future.
This is a good video. This is highlighting the fact that society is valuing the intellectual/creative achievements more and more. The people are craving new ideas, even if it is not entirely self-evident to the people commenting here. Curiosity is awakening in more people and they want good answers to their questions. A intellectual or creative person can either help compile good information for easier digestion, or present it in a new and simple way that can make it easier to understand.
Unfortunately a lot of people equate creativity with 'extra work'. This is especially the case in organisations which are conservative like government agencies, health care bodies and other public sector institutions. no wonder we're in a recession.
Weird, it's been my dream to move to a cabin someday, in Minnesota or Maine. Build a mancave-bombshelter with a pressure canner canning eggnogs, groundbeef, beans, salt pork. Always fed, comfortable with fire and carpet, work on my novels and short stories. Self sufficient, isolated, safe.
If the supply of people willing to perform unskilled labor drastically decreased, then the price of that labor would go up.
Doctors find creative ways to solve certain problems within certain parameters (such a strict rules), Which one could make the argument you'd have to be even MORE creative, than just simply creative.
First of all don't consider vaccines poison, but taxes are almost by definition theft. Second of all the governement does put a lot of restrictions and laws on people that are very, very non-voluntary. Also, I never said that people who work as volunteers should get the money, I think they should, it's just the politicians shouldn't. Of course there needs to be some regulation, but the problem is it's monopolized through governement so there's no competition.
Creativity isn't a quality. It's something you do. It's what makes you human.
Well, in a fictional scenario, Dr House did lots of creative and experimental treatments, always thinking outside the box and about the connections between data, behavior, and symptoms in order to figure out what they were dealing with. Of course, like I said, that was a fictional scenario.
Great point... so if you're truly creative on that level, be an entrepreneur. Clearly, you don't see the value of what your employers are doing, and you can think of your own ideas. If you're right, clients will come straight to you instead of to them.
the easy thing would be to go to your 10 hour job then do nothing after your off, the hard thing would be to do your 10 hour job then spend every second you can teaching yourself how to do what you want to do.
O and i am a 8-12hr factory work that went from almost failing high school and hating my job to being able to build and create anything i want in 5yrs. No schooling, just applied myself to work and self educating myself. Now i make decent money doing what i love.
The sad part is that if you try to join the "creative class" its very unreasonable the jobs are just not available. For example look at all these phd's whodo not have a job also the ones that do have a job still have to pay off their college loans.
Why wouldn't computers be designed that way. I think a corporate executive would kill for an AI that could replace the majority of his workers, AKA the majority of his expenses. With advanced enough computer tech you could have a company like EA only being run almost completely autonomously, and with shareholders sitting around only there to collect the money.
Also volunteers have to much to do in this world. Lots of the crime and poverty is created by the governement. The problem with taxes, is not only that it's theft, but also that over half of it goes to the polititians and administration and not to the people actually in need. In a voluntary society, not only would there be less poverty, but the money used to help them could be managed better.
Can we have a society where everyone belongs to the creative class ?No! Someone has to fix your plumbing, someone has to stock the shelves in your local supermarket for you to buy your groceries, someone has to repair the road you use to get to your creative class job.
Do I really have to repeat myself? Voluntaryism doesn't equal volunteer. From the wiki, so that no one sais I just make this up or something:
"Voluntaryism, or voluntarism, is generally considered to be the philosophy which holds that all forms of human association should be voluntary.
The principle most frequently used to support voluntaryism is the non-aggression principle.
Many voluntaryists base their thinking on the ideas of voluntaryist philosophers Murray Rothbard and Robert LeFevre...
being artsy is not creative (well it is but its not the only creative thing) you can be creative at solving real life problems, such as cooking cheap but good food, or be creative about the way you go to work/school bus or faster route
The crops aren't being grown and supplied to all of us evently because of the fucked up financial system everything is built on. None of that has to do with "too many artists" - not that artists help in this regard. We already have the resources to provide for everyone, we're just not doing it. And for the reasons you have to look in economics, not in "culture".
well, based on the what the video is about .... if you want job stability get creative regarding your situation. If you don't think out of your box keep working that 10hr factory job thinking being creative is just a mental exercise.
Then get laid off when someone automates/outsources the whole factory.
It is really up to the individual to make that decision.
I wish he defined the 'creative class'. I know a lot of starving artists, writers, etc. A lot of jobs in Singapore and New York are finance-related and calling those jobs creative would be a stretch unless it means creative banking accounting to cook the books.
its something that i been thinking for a long time that essentially we are moving towards a society where machines do all the repetitive work and humans do only creative work...research entertainment&sport building and maintaining and maintaining the machines
As optimistic as I want to be about this idea, It will never happen. people fail to realize that everyone can't go to school, or be "creative" in the work place like this guy says. Big companies could CARE LESS if their minimum wage employees are creative, as log as the dirty work gets done. In America, many people are still trying to do what they can just to Survive. Not everybody can be so lucky...
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If you look in more detail, most of there wealth was there before these reforms, and it was produced by their free markets and the fact that many of these countries haven't engaged in wars in the past cetury or in some case even longer (wars cost a lot). Low crime rates, high standards of living, and low crimes are all an effect of their wealth, which is created only in a free market, just look at the countries from the bottom of the free market index: North Korea, Cuba, Zimbabwe.
your "creative class" (managment etc..) hires your "labor class". hire someone and call yourself creative. coolstory
With the pressures of globalization and automation, the increasingly-fewer jobs a machine cannot do now form the basis for economies in developed countries; only 6% of the U.S. economy is now comprised of industrial jobs.
The equitable access to and ownership of capital is, ultimately, the only way to prevent increasing productivity gains from resigning vast segments of the population to the status of a permanent underclass. Labor is increasingly unneeded as an input into production.
It all depends on your measurement of intelligence. While some people are not book smart they may contain skills and know-how that others lack. The big problem is the structure of our education and job recruiting system. Not all of us are afforded the ability to attend and succeed in college. More apprenticeship programs should be offered in the US, this gives those not cut out for college the ability to have some of these creative careers.
in a perfect world, the likes of which we may never reach but can certainly strive for these tasks will be a task for machinery. The thing 1 computers are bad at is creativity that said their perfect for sequenced tasks often found as the tedious low paying jobs.
this is possible for the most part today if economics were not a problem (paying to make all the machines) then the most tedious jobs though the most essential will be maintenance and repair.
He is not saying there will be a time when everyone gets one of these creative jobs. There will always be low paying menial labor, but this market is decreasing as technology takes over some of these tasks.
I agree with the idea that the creation of creative jobs should be a priority, however bureaucracy is still the biggest obstacle. To get big projects off the ground it will take more efficiency. I believe their to be a whole new career path herein.
The biggest job killers today are ''the consultants'' with their streamlining advice. Streamlining is focused on the wrong outcome for a company. It focusses on max profits when it should be focused on max revenue.
Well, machines takes classicjobs because they do it better than humans, so creativity is the only thing a machine can't do better than a human-being.
The problem is the low economic mobility in the states. Try Sweden or Denmark for example, that's countries where the american dreams is actually still possible: Work hard and it will pay off. I can understand that ppl in america is disgruntled, you have an unproportionally low economic mobility in regards to other western countries. If I was an american, that's what I would fight to change. Start with figuring out what the hell went so wrong.
time guys, we cant even have one to watch out this but the most noticeable thing is, only technology based creativity is at lest paid fairly. all other careers are under unjust rewards, particularly in Africa.
Yeah, I agree with you there. Its just that I find the North Korean invasion scenario extremely implausible. Among the many reasons why is the issue of logistics. North Korea has a navy, but it is almost entirely geared toward coastal defense. They have very few deep water vessels. So I don't see how exactly you're envisioning a mainland invasion by the DPRK. With China its pretty much the same thing. At most they can threaten Japan and the Philippines, which would be economic suicide for them.
My problem has never been thinking of new ways to do things, it's been more like "Why in the fuck are we doing this in the first place?" I've had the most problem with the very premises upon which my employers have existed in the first place. Try bringing that up on the job and see what it gets you.
Work is of two kinds: first, altering the position of matter at or near the earth's surface relatively to other such matter; second, telling other people to do so. The first kind is unpleasant and ill paid; the second is pleasant and highly paid. -- Bertrand Russell (from "In Praise of Idleness").
:37-:57 So basically he defines a creative job as basically anything you need to get an education for. This video may as well be titled "Want job stability? Get educated!"
I completely disagree. Take the iPhone's Siri for example; The answers she gives you are recognised and she's only given specific answers to complete the 'task'. It's all mathematical. If computers were so intelligent, they'd be able to make art.
Take note, that using computers as a medium for art is infinitely different.
Yes, you do have job stability if you are creative. But, only as long as you are A: young and B: cheap. Creative jobs in design, media etc are becoming as low paid as shop work, yet you need a degree to do it.
Mostly said in this video is true, however; I find many people who are very creative don't get center stage. For me reality is to be successful is to be notice by the right people who have the resources. One time undergraduate degree education was the road for success. Today, even people who have science and technology education are still struggling because the cost of education is very high. What is person to do? What about people 50+ of age?
Fine arts? I imagine that's a difficult market. Digital media however is a massively growing industry and an incredibly simple idea can quite easily make someone a millionaire.
There will always be people who aren't quite on that level yet. They may do that work and then move on, opening up space for another worker.
What about when computers become so advanced that they can write their own programs and make graphic art for companies, and then everyone will be unemployed.
You hit the nail on the head with creative medical professions. Skilled therapy and rehabilitation
Well if everybody is going to move into the creative category- who is going to do the management work, all the hard laborious work? I just believe this is what happens when a society is getting more and more diverse, you get a broader spectrum of jobs. But of course then you have some jobs phased out by machines or just simply disappear into oblivion. Ah, that being said, some cultures just favour hard labour without moving forward.
Creativity is an amazing tool; it's amazing to think about how much collective creativity our race demonstrates.
What makes you think I am not creative and doing my own path?
As a norwegian I agree on what he says about scandinavia, that about half the population are in a work situation where you can use creativity, which I think is fantastic! I don't think I would be able to even work in a static (mind-wise) workplace.
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"Socialist countries" like Denmark, Switzerland and Canada actually rank higher in the U.S. And anyhow in most cases the only thing really socialist about these countries are high taxes, and possibly strict labor union laws, on the other hand they have low regulations, little restrictions on investments and a very liberal monetary policy. And if you look at more detailed statistics, most of these countries have actually stagnated or their development has slowed down since these reforms.
I don't get the term low skill service work, I think many service jobs take a lot of skill that many people do not have, and only because they are looked down on from CEO's are they proclaimed low skill service workers.
Good points. But we must weed out the regulations we speak of, and not jump on the wagon that says all regulations are evil. - By doing that we won't get anywhere.
I know of quite a few regs in my field of work, but I'm curious about which ones that goes across the board.
and most of the people he describes as non creative came up with unique creative ways to get where they are now. a business person can be creative too, it just won't be visible to most people that he is.
"All governments, however limited they may be otherwise, commit at least these two fundamental crimes against liberty and property". "
My next question is once everyone is creative, then who would do the minimal low paying jobs?
we live in a outdated society, we need to update it.
I was thinking that, I guess its more appropriate to say that upgrading would be the most tedious job... then again machines could upgrade each other... then the most tedious though not at all tedious job would be designing upgrades.
I think the biggest thing in our way is energy, though within the next 20-30 years that problem will likely not exists, this has already begun, we're only a generation away from such a world.
Mechanical, repetitive tasks are jobs. He's describing roles.
What? Isn't the idea that machines will produce food and recources? Who would starve according to you in such a society? Except for those who would want to.
I don't see what this video has to do with judging others based on their jobs. His whole point is that creativity is inherent in all people, and so they are all capable of operating in his "creative class", which he is proposing is more stable and higher paid on average. And I agree that higher/technical education is probably the first door to this creative workforce, but how do you suggest the college system be fixed?
if you have issues in terms of your health (or your family) or any kind of problem that oligates you to spend a lot of money, in that case its not your fault at all.
Now, tell me, if this is not the case, you arent spens money in any kind of "fix problem" do you consider in sit yourself in a chair and write all your expenses, and cut all unnecessary expenses?
Life gives you cards randomly, dont give you the cards you d like to have, its a matter of turn around and win the cards you have,
Eventually it won't result in a better salary because everybody will be doing it, and it won't reduce inequality because instead of a division between creative and manual/service classes, the market will simply produce a division between the upper and lower creative classes.
so he's basically just dressed up the message that practically every developed government has given out for the 50 years which is 'get a good education and become a thinker rather than a do-er', and thanks to a slightly unconventional use of the word creative made it appear as thought he has some deep formula for solving unemployment.
The question could also be what would become of the high price products
Why does he label intellectual vs labor work as "creative" vs labor work? It's not like that. A university does not make average Joe creative, it's intellectual people who were already fit for the job that applied and got accepted.
Well, I could answer those questions, but only if you would be willing to reason. Right now I have only heard responses like: that's impossible, it's stupid, it's selfish, you're crazy and so on. None of these subjects are that easy, so I've got to know if my time is worth investing.
North Korea? Really? I see your point, but I'd be more worried about a 2nd civil war in the advent of a breakdown in the Federal government.
i agree
62-70 hours a week, 7 days a week for months, and still going more in debt is even better when people tell me its my fault.
Show me an employer that will say that to a valuable employee. Actually your boss is gona be chasing after you if you had exeptional skills and he will be begging you to stay.
Machines theoretically would do the physical non-creative jobs. If that isn't the case and there is a job which cannot be done by machines, and nobody is doing it, then good old supply and demand would theoretically equalize the pay of the Minimal jobs into a job that pays like a creative job. Essentially the idea of a minimal low paying job will evolve into something else, and the gap of labor at the very bottom would be taken over by non-humans.
How do you know? There's lots of smart guys out there who think otherwise. And isn't it just worth, to give them a chance, and listen them out? It's free and it's on the internet, and if you don't like it no harm will be done ;). So why not take the red pill? ;)
I think you've got good ideals. But the thing is, governement usually don't stop so easily, the grow and grow, impose more regulations, set higher taxes until the can't pay of their depts and start over again. But anyways, have you heard of the term voluntaryism?
The funny part about this is americans don't believe it, I mean they can't believe it. Have you ever been to there schools? My own in oregon was cutting out all exstra activitys to cut down on cost. At one point they where using Hooked on phonics in the public school, americans are not used to thinking for themselves unless there given permission to do so.
if you go in debt you might want to look over your spendings. if you buy the latest console and the new iphone although you know you have debt, it IS your fault. also you might want to use a debit card instead of a credit card in order to avoid debt, my card has a 0€ limit, if i don't have money, i can't get any.
Good lord, that is the most American-looking guy I have seen in this generation next to possibly John Stossel.
And, obviously, not everybody can be working in creative fields. He isnt saying that. Im sure the demand for creative works will diminish if food is too costly or scarce. People gotta eat first. duhh.
@Paseosinperro precisely what sort of specifics are you looking for in big think videos that last 2 minutes? You could always read one of his books or even view some of his lectures which are often hours long for that.
You're not gonna like what I'm gonna say, but I hope you'll think about it. Being creative and talented enough to produce great works of art has never created independence or equality. What these creative and talented individuals need to do is find creative ways to use their abilities to make money independently. That way at the job interview if they don't offer you what you want, you can walk away.
First of all, he's not telling anyone to do anything to make themselves more successful. He specifically approaches the inequality in employment as being a difficult to avoid product of classes. He says that they are people who are privileged to be working in creative fields.
Second of all, how in depth do you expect anyone to go on a 3 minute RUclips video? Maybe if you want an in-depth explanation, you should read his book.
Creatively work around it.
True ... up to the point when China's creative class makes the american creative class obsolete.