Christopher Baranet here. Max was my older brother. I remember first hearing " Sweet Child Of Mine" on the radio. I was living in NYC. I called my brother and said Have you heard of this band called Guns N Roses. He said Yeah the guitar player has one of my guitars. He says " I know them, they used to come into my shop. One day the guitar player came in and said, Max, we just got a record contract with Geffen Records, we're going in the studio and I don't even have a decent guitar to play. Can I buy a guitar from you? Max says my guitars are all made to order. You can go ahead and borrow my Max guitar, which I made for myself. Slash recorded A for D, came back later, and bought the guitar. That was the story Max told me, before G n R became so famous. When my brother died he left about 10 or so of his guitars. He died without a will. Unfortunately, my two sisters who are Scientologists,Tina and Michelle stole all of his guitars.
There are interviews out there on Kris Derrig with his brother Dale. It was Kris's guitar that saved Appetite for Destruction, Slash didn't have a Les Paul at that point. Kris graduated from Berkeley College of music and was an extremely good guitar player himself. His brother stated he used to go with him searching for 100 year old maple from barns. Kris used to spit on the wood to test it.
The les paul slash pawned was the "hunterburst"..it was a quilt top and MAX did not build that...he sill has his 2 MAX's One MAX appeared on the welcome to the jungle video but the Derrig never appeared in a GnR video until I believe it was since I don't have yu from Spaghetti incident. The Derrig was used to record the overdubs on appetite as well as the sweet child intro but the majority of the album was recorded with a rented SG.
Learn something new everyday still, never heard of either the Derrig or the Baranet LP replicas...very cool ! sad that Derrig passed so young...Slash guitar gear tech videos brought me here..
Excellent history lesson. Did Max Baranet use a serial number system that would allow someone to identify one of his guitars? Or did he not use SNs? Thank you.
Sweetheart there’s lots of justification why the classic burst is most valuable over other production run electric guitars. I certainly appreciate the vintage authenticity influencing a specific tonality which can not be denied That said I simply can’t imagine any instrument sounding better than my Eastman SB59V with Lollar Imperials and varnish finish. Personally the other differences between a genuine burst don’t offer more value to my own needs. $2500 is a lot of money. Eastman is a magnificent manufacturer well educated in targeting Gibson & Martin designs.
On that Gibson R9, that’s some pretty terrible binding bleed. Original 59s never had that bad of bleeding. To be honest, they didn’t have a lot of binding bleed really at all. It’s only been a modern Custom ship thing that I’ve ever seen. Which it looks horrendous and I’d be sending that one back if I were you guys.
I painted my replica using as close to original methods as I could research, and it didn't bleed like that. Just some minor yellowing I can only assume that kind of bleed would come from getting in too much of a hurry.
@@qua7771 exactly. What the Custom Shop doesn’t understand is that yes there were errors from factory on 59s, but not the ones that they are using. It’s awful and why I don’t even mess with them. I like their other models that aren’t the 59 reissues mainly for that reason alone. They are awesome guitars but not worth 8k with that kind of bleed happening .
@@neanderpaulradio3391 I wasn't going to buy the guitar, I was just going to look at it some more plus see how much they were asking for it but the link wasn't in the description.
This is not a question of opinion. It is a fact that the guitar sells for whatever price the seller dictates. You could sell a pebble for a zillion if you find someone willing to pay the amount.
The hardest thing to replicate are the inlays-as they are not made anymore thats how you can tell the fakes hands down also the original finger boards were Brazilian rose wood which is extremely illegal to import now,so none of the gibson burst custom shop guitars are accurate!!!!!!
Why is Paul a Radio DJ? i mean they makegood cash But damn he should open his own Buisness either a Custom boutique built guitar comp or a Music Of the 80s Museum. he is a plethora of info man. lol
I built my 58 burst relplica down to the specs of a max. Its got hobduran mahogany a d brazilian rosewood and bartlett stuff and the list goes on. I built it 10yrs ago and i think im building another. Its about 1300 in just parts and paint to do it right. Labor doesent bother me. I wouldent want to pay for the labor lol
I wonder if he used Mazzuchelli inlays, they’re the Italian company who supplied Gibson for all the 58-60 Les Pauls and beyond. Gibson doesn’t use their product anymore that’s why the new ones look like mother of toilet seat.
@@mikecooper8465 actually American Master builder Scott Lewis and American luthiers are at the Qingdao Epiphone facility and the Asian luthiers that are there also have no less than 10 experience Scott Lewis isn't going to have bad craftsman working for him that's for sure..Lewis was also Master builder for Gibson and has been at the Qingdao facility since 2002 and with Epiphone/Gibson 46 years
It’s a replica of a model that the company did not offer at the time. Therefore, there was no opportunity to purchase it from the company. No denial of revenue, and, importantly, no degradation of the brand by the use of inferior materials, or devaluation of the official product. Gibson is aware of Mr. Baranet’s work, and has never expressed discontent, or instituted legal proceedings. It’s safe to assume that his boutique editions of that guitar, combined with Kris Derrig’s version, are responsible for the rebirth of the model. We’re it not for Max, and Kris, the Les Paul guitar wouldn’t have had the renaissance it has. Truth be told, the dozens of Slash models that Gibson currently offers, are actually based upon these ‘fakes,’ and not their own design team. So…perhaps it’s Gibson who’s faking quality? As Kris has passed, and Max has retired, there is no opportunity for continued potential for counterfeiting. What’s done, is done, and these pieces are not purporting to be Gibson Les Paul guitars. They are clearly identified as reproductions. Not unlike a lithograph is to a canvas painting. You buy a print, it’s a fake. You still buy it. Call them what you want. Given the opportunity to own one, you would enjoy the experience. All said, the value is dictated by the consumer market. If Gibson made such an instrument at the time, there would be reason for acrimony. They didn’t. And so…these are artisan pieces.. Thanks for watching.
If it says Gibson and isn't a Gibson, it is a fake Gibson. Try convincing yourself otherwise, but it is a fake. A beautiful fake from a well known guitar builder, but still a fake. Any replica is a fake. Cut the crap.
Nice Les Paul! Sadly, watching this was disappointing. Right away he goes into the "tonewood" BS! These guitars were originally desired by artists who wanted that Gibson with the two humbuckers PERIOD! Sorry but, they were not designed by a bunch of operation paperclip nazi tonewood scientists armed with slide rules in a room full of chalkboards. Gibson dropped them because they were not making them more of the almighty dollar! The main A-Holes who push this garbage are the guitar sellers and the lumber sellers. Lumber sells for the going board foot rate when I'm building a coffee table. But, when it's for a guitar it suddenly becomes magical tonewood and costs 3 times as much or more. I love Les Pauls as much as the next guy. I'm just so sick the lies and the morons who buy the lies.
Really bud? Is this where I say, "I'm rubber, you're glue"? My comment was to all in general, not to you directly. So, all I ask is, please prove what I said as wrong. And to answer your "med" question, I don't take the stupid pills that most seem to take. Thanks! @ZIMMSGUITARS
Christopher Baranet here. Max was my older brother. I remember first hearing " Sweet Child Of Mine" on the radio. I was living in NYC. I called my brother and said Have you heard of this band called Guns N Roses. He said Yeah the guitar player has one of my guitars. He says " I know them, they used to come into my shop. One day the guitar player came in and said, Max, we just got a record contract with Geffen Records, we're going in the studio and I don't even have a decent guitar to play. Can I buy a guitar from you? Max says my guitars are all made to order. You can go ahead and borrow my Max guitar, which I made for myself. Slash recorded A for D, came back later, and bought the guitar. That was the story Max told me, before G n R became so famous. When my brother died he left about 10 or so of his guitars. He died without a will. Unfortunately, my two sisters who are Scientologists,Tina and Michelle stole all of his guitars.
Sorry for your loss. Thanks for sharing that story.
I have a left handed Kriss Derrig 59 replica, he made it in the 80's , God rest his soul.
That is a great guitar. It does have Brazillian rosewood fret board and Bumblebee caps. I personally wound the PAF replica pickups that are in it.
You must know Howie H
Thanks for the history lesson!
Excellent episode. Thanks again zimms
There are interviews out there on Kris Derrig with his brother Dale. It was Kris's guitar that saved Appetite for Destruction, Slash didn't have a Les Paul at that point. Kris graduated from Berkeley College of music and was an extremely good guitar player himself. His brother stated he used to go with him searching for 100 year old maple from barns. Kris used to spit on the wood to test it.
I love my R0! The custom shop CustomBucker pickups are fantastic!
The les paul slash pawned was the "hunterburst"..it was a quilt top and MAX did not build that...he sill has his 2 MAX's
One MAX appeared on the welcome to the jungle video but the Derrig never appeared in a GnR video until I believe it was since I don't have yu from Spaghetti incident. The Derrig was used to record the overdubs on appetite as well as the sweet child intro but the majority of the album was recorded with a rented SG.
Max is quite a character
I've played my buddies 1958 Gibson LP. It was handed down to him when his father passed away.
You can't just end the story there.
Paul with the Les Paul knowledge 👊🏼 Right on Gentlemen!!
Is that not the same guy who was making fun of you on Johnnie the douche bags show? asking for a friend
Sweet guitar. Great info. You really do know your Les Paul's. Thanks guys, been learning alot. Good video.
RIP Max
Gotta keep Paul as a regular 👍👍🎸🎸🎸 sure is educational.
That demo probably knocked off 10k of value.
Love that guitar
Learn something new everyday still, never heard of either the Derrig or the Baranet LP replicas...very cool ! sad that Derrig passed so young...Slash guitar gear tech videos brought me here..
Les paul used to say if it says les paul on the headstock its a les paul .
Excellent history lesson. Did Max Baranet use a serial number system that would allow someone to identify one of his guitars? Or did he not use SNs? Thank you.
I wish I lived in the USA I would love to visit your store zimm 👍👍
Sweetheart there’s lots of justification why the classic burst is most valuable over other production run electric guitars. I certainly appreciate the vintage authenticity influencing a specific tonality which can not be denied
That said I simply can’t imagine any instrument sounding better than my Eastman SB59V with Lollar Imperials and varnish finish. Personally the other differences between a genuine burst don’t offer more value to my own needs. $2500 is a lot of money. Eastman is a magnificent manufacturer well educated in targeting Gibson & Martin designs.
Thanks again for info!
sweet guitar, Paul is full of great information to. Awesome
Glad you liked it!
This is so coooool! Neanderpaul is a walking encyclopedia. 😆👍 awesome guitar. 😍 love the shirt Dane!
Thanks! 😃
On that Gibson R9, that’s some pretty terrible binding bleed. Original 59s never had that bad of bleeding. To be honest, they didn’t have a lot of binding bleed really at all. It’s only been a modern Custom ship thing that I’ve ever seen. Which it looks horrendous and I’d be sending that one back if I were you guys.
I painted my replica using as close to original methods as I could research, and it didn't bleed like that. Just some minor yellowing
I can only assume that kind of bleed would come from getting in too much of a hurry.
@@qua7771 exactly. What the Custom Shop doesn’t understand is that yes there were errors from factory on 59s, but not the ones that they are using. It’s awful and why I don’t even mess with them. I like their other models that aren’t the 59 reissues mainly for that reason alone. They are awesome guitars but not worth 8k with that kind of bleed happening .
I’d take that R9 any day and twice on Sundays. Look at the carve on the R9 top and the lack of on the Max. Among other things.
Ill take 2
Looks exactly like my Edwards LTS from 2007 👍
Beautiful guitar … did each Max guitar get a serial number?
Wow Paul has some great guitars I love these post can we have more please Am learning a lot 👍👍👌👌
That’s not mine. Wish it were.
Didnt he die from accidentally inhaling the fumes from the lacquer? Death by guitar.
Has it sold already? There's no link in the description that I can find.
It is still available, get hold of me and we'll talk.
@@neanderpaulradio3391 What's interesting?
@@neanderpaulradio3391 I wasn't going to buy the guitar, I was just going to look at it some more plus see how much they were asking for it but the link wasn't in the description.
Love it!
Thanks!!
Nice guitar
I can’t believe gibson hasn’t gone after max baranet with a cease and desists lawsuit!!!!!!!
Still nowhere near being worth $30,000, IMHO.
The market dictates value. Like a Picasso, or Shelby Cobra. Art makes the market.
This is not a question of opinion. It is a fact that the guitar sells for whatever price the seller dictates. You could sell a pebble for a zillion if you find someone willing to pay the amount.
Almost as nice as my Chibson 😀
Almost!
Max and Dave Johnson made them together in the end years.
This guitar was finished by Dave Johnson. It's spectacular
I don't think You could have Made that Guitar sound any WORSE
Last year Slash bought 2 for 100k
Tune the damn thing for Chrissakes. And have somebody that can play do the demo
The hardest thing to replicate are the inlays-as they are not made anymore thats how you can tell the fakes hands down also the original finger boards were Brazilian rose wood which is extremely illegal to import now,so none of the gibson burst custom shop guitars are accurate!!!!!!
Why is Paul a Radio DJ? i mean they makegood cash But damn he should open his own Buisness either a Custom boutique built guitar comp or a Music Of the 80s Museum. he is a plethora of info man. lol
I built my 58 burst relplica down to the specs of a max. Its got hobduran mahogany a d brazilian rosewood and bartlett stuff and the list goes on. I built it 10yrs ago and i think im building another. Its about 1300 in just parts and paint to do it right. Labor doesent bother me. I wouldent want to pay for the labor lol
Yooo where can i see your build?
I wonder if he used Mazzuchelli inlays, they’re the Italian company who supplied Gibson for all the 58-60 Les Pauls and beyond.
Gibson doesn’t use their product anymore that’s why the new ones look like mother of toilet seat.
With respect - Vintage prices for replicas? You have to be kidding me.
the Gibson has more correct maple species and dyes
The guy talking had some good takes however he definitely had a bias haha
Gas lighting lately?
So wrong to use the Gibson and Les Paul names.
So no matter how you sugar coat it it's still a fake
Only two guitar companies that make the real Les Paul's Gibson and Epiphone period end of story
@@anthonyvalentino9483 You Are Correct..made by an artisan or not.its still not the item.. period.
@@mikecooper8465 actually American Master builder Scott Lewis and American luthiers are at the Qingdao Epiphone facility and the Asian luthiers that are there also have no less than 10 experience Scott Lewis isn't going to have bad craftsman working for him that's for sure..Lewis was also Master builder for Gibson and has been at the Qingdao facility since 2002 and with Epiphone/Gibson 46 years
It’s a replica of a model that the company did not offer at the time. Therefore, there was no opportunity to purchase it from the company. No denial of revenue, and, importantly, no degradation of the brand by the use of inferior materials, or devaluation of the official product.
Gibson is aware of Mr. Baranet’s work, and has never expressed discontent, or instituted legal proceedings. It’s safe to assume that his boutique editions of that guitar, combined with Kris Derrig’s version, are responsible for the rebirth of the model.
We’re it not for Max, and Kris, the Les Paul guitar wouldn’t have had the renaissance it has. Truth be told, the dozens of Slash models that Gibson currently offers, are actually based upon these ‘fakes,’ and not their own design team. So…perhaps it’s Gibson who’s faking quality?
As Kris has passed, and Max has retired, there is no opportunity for continued potential for counterfeiting. What’s done, is done, and these pieces are not purporting to be Gibson Les Paul guitars. They are clearly identified as reproductions. Not unlike a lithograph is to a canvas painting. You buy a print, it’s a fake. You still buy it.
Call them what you want. Given the opportunity to own one, you would enjoy the experience. All said, the value is dictated by the consumer market.
If Gibson made such an instrument at the time, there would be reason for acrimony. They didn’t. And so…these are artisan pieces..
Thanks for watching.
@@anthonyvalentino9483 Orville also made Les Paul guitars. Legitimate models.
If it says Gibson and isn't a Gibson, it is a fake Gibson. Try convincing yourself otherwise, but it is a fake. A beautiful fake from a well known guitar builder, but still a fake. Any replica is a fake. Cut the crap.
Nice Les Paul! Sadly, watching this was disappointing. Right away he goes into the "tonewood" BS! These guitars were originally desired by artists who wanted that Gibson with the two humbuckers PERIOD! Sorry but, they were not designed by a bunch of operation paperclip nazi tonewood scientists armed with slide rules in a room full of chalkboards. Gibson dropped them because they were not making them more of the almighty dollar! The main A-Holes who push this garbage are the guitar sellers and the lumber sellers. Lumber sells for the going board foot rate when I'm building a coffee table. But, when it's for a guitar it suddenly becomes magical tonewood and costs 3 times as much or more. I love Les Pauls as much as the next guy. I'm just so sick the lies and the morons who buy the lies.
You might want to check your meds.
Really bud? Is this where I say, "I'm rubber, you're glue"? My comment was to all in general, not to you directly. So, all I ask is, please prove what I said as wrong. And to answer your "med" question, I don't take the stupid pills that most seem to take. Thanks! @ZIMMSGUITARS