very nice. I learned a different application for this one. The sea bottom is the hui yin point, a downward finger strike with enough fa jin hitting below the navel towards the hui yin point will cause a hernia.
That’s such an interesting take! There’s a point on the conception channel called qihai “sea of qi”. It might be a coincidence, or maybe the name Hai Di Zhen refers to this hai. You plunge your fingers/needle into the sea to reach the bottom. Very glad I came across this comment!
We have another application trained in San Shou and fast form that also strikes the Hai Di point. 😉😉 But that Needle at the sea bottom uses a fist, not fingers.
@@TakWahLeungstill the application in the video is very interesting to me because it uses something similar to a "saw" technique that I've only seen in xing yi and bagua. Do you have something like a "hook and saw" method in your TCC Mr. Leung - or am I reading too much into it?
@@ziqiantransformsI didn't know what the hai di zhen point was until I looked it up but it is exactly where the Loashi told me to strike while aiming directly through to the hui yi point, thank you for that. There is a slight language barrier with my Loashi so I could have misunderstood some terms but the thing he emphasized was reach through that hai di zhen point down towards the hui yin point with massive power and speed. The method was with a finger spear hand like in this video.
Good training. Thanks for revealing. Slow form is a mystery of moves so nice to see. But with this application can the opponent not use his other hand to strike you. You have two hands busy, he still has one free. Or is this not possible for him to counter because of the position and angle you have? Just asking. innocent question. I am not Master. Keep posting videos
Good point! Here is an application of Gong in the slow frame. It trains Jin Lu from the Push Hands position, which uses two hands to control the opponent's one hand/arm. The purpose is to understand how to lead this Jin. For the fighting application, it will be trained in San Shou or sparring training.
Thanks for showing the application, I always wondered what it was! 👍
very nice. I learned a different application for this one. The sea bottom is the hui yin point, a downward finger strike with enough fa jin hitting below the navel towards the hui yin point will cause a hernia.
That’s such an interesting take! There’s a point on the conception channel called qihai “sea of qi”. It might be a coincidence, or maybe the name Hai Di Zhen refers to this hai. You plunge your fingers/needle into the sea to reach the bottom. Very glad I came across this comment!
We have another application trained in San Shou and fast form that also strikes the Hai Di point. 😉😉 But that Needle at the sea bottom uses a fist, not fingers.
@@TakWahLeungstill the application in the video is very interesting to me because it uses something similar to a "saw" technique that I've only seen in xing yi and bagua. Do you have something like a "hook and saw" method in your TCC Mr. Leung - or am I reading too much into it?
@@ziqiantransformsI didn't know what the hai di zhen point was until I looked it up but it is exactly where the Loashi told me to strike while aiming directly through to the hui yi point, thank you for that. There is a slight language barrier with my Loashi so I could have misunderstood some terms but the thing he emphasized was reach through that hai di zhen point down towards the hui yin point with massive power and speed. The method was with a finger spear hand like in this video.
How about the other hand?
치앙마이에서 직접 가서 배울 수 있는 방법이 있을까요?
Good training. Thanks for revealing. Slow form is a mystery of moves so nice to see. But with this application can the opponent not use his other hand to strike you. You have two hands busy, he still has one free. Or is this not possible for him to counter because of the position and angle you have? Just asking. innocent question. I am not Master. Keep posting videos
Good point!
Here is an application of Gong in the slow frame. It trains Jin Lu from the Push Hands position, which uses two hands to control the opponent's one hand/arm. The purpose is to understand how to lead this Jin. For the fighting application, it will be trained in San Shou or sparring training.