Funny how they just left the end of his quote out. “I don’t know if I really pressed the gas if I would get what I’m quote-unquote worth. But I know I enjoy coming to that building every single day.” He said several times before this whole thing, that he chooses Dynastie and winning over the extra money. That's all there is to say.
They didn't mention Gronk who not only was an unstoppable receiving TE but also ran over people with his hands in the dirt as a blocker. Gronk definitely took less to stay with Brady understanding that that relationship was hard if not impossible to duplicate elsewhere.
Difference is Gronk was always unlike Travis. But Travis is also a really good blocker as well. He just wasn’t as strong and as big as Gronk so he doesn’t have as many pancake blocks
@@ndukaonyeali3036Travis is not a good blocker dawg lol that’s why he plays slot or off the line lol he gets ate up against DEs and physical LBs. the only blocks he can do is goin against DBs. That is literally the reason they say he’s just a receiving TE lol
"We were not talking about kelce like we are now 3 years ago". Nah he's been getting busy for 5". Try 9 years and 7 consecutive 1000 yard season Wtf are y'all on
@@princecheck11 these are supposed to be experts and they don't even know how long travis has been good. All I'm saying is this show throws out stats and numbers that aren't even true all the time. Joy and Ric make the show at this point shady can really only talk about the eagles and some football and little basketball and Acho just uses his tone and energy which is good but he plays too many favorites he's like an entertaining skip bayless
Love the show simply, for the fact that they talk about different teams subjects players in every position with four host from different backgrounds. This formula should have never ended for a sports talk show.
By staying in KC Travis Kelce is going to end up being the greatest statistical TE of all time with some stats that will lead the league for a decade or more post retirement. Combine multiple rings, his untouchable stats, & his personality and if he wants it he is going to get a crazy media deal post retirement. He’s Peyton & Shannon combined into 1 person.
He still has a way to go to even catch Tony Gonzalez, he probs will have less TD’s and super bowls than Gronk and less stats than the Gonzalez. I think he is better but he will never make the money back he giving up.
@@sly0422he’ll be given a broadcasting job on some network, have his own podcast that’ll be huge and endorsements because of it. And he’s able to play longer bc he’s playing well w Mahomes. He definitely will make it back. Money isn’t everything
Statistically speaking, Kelce actually has a long way to go to lead all historical TEs. However, he's only played 7 seasons thus far, and all other TEs at the top of the mountain have played 11+. Gronk played 11, Jimmy Graham played 11, Sharpe played 14, Gates played 16, Gonzalez played 17, Witten played 18. If Kelce plays at a high level for 4 more seasons he'll *probably* be 2nd in yards and 3rd in TDs. If he continues to be a role player for another few years after that he could take the lead in every statistical category. But playing at a high level for 11 years is really, REALLY hard to do. He has to avoid injury for several more years.
I believe Trav’s priority is building his legacy - he’s aware he’s in the convo for GOAT TE.. he’s going to start passing people in front of him in yards - likely Antonio Gates this upcoming season.. he stands a better chance of ascending up the TE list and winning SBs if he takes less money and has the best QB in the NFL throwing him the ball…
Kelce is in rarified air as he has a chance to go down as the GOAT TE which has a whole different value in itself as well. Their podcast is awesome but helps to have the Kelce bowl and even his mom is getting endorsements now!
I love seeing how this always comes up as a conversation topic when it's Mahomes, Hill or Kelce. The Chiefs and the stars have an understanding, and it's not a secret. Hill was offered $26 million, decided he wanted $30 so the Chiefs approached him about a trade and he agreed. The Chiefs will pay Mahomes whatever he ask for. They won't pay Kelce whatever he asks for. He knows that. Of course it's totally valid for him to feel some kind of way from time to time. But when his game checks start coming in and W's start piling up -- he will again feel good about HIS decision to sacrifice money now to make money and build legacy forever.
Exactly. As if 57 million isn’t a ton of money anyway. You tell me imma make 57 mill and win several Super Bowl. Vs 80 mill and no super bowls. I’d take the super bowls and MILLIONS.
@dromulio not to mention the bonus checks for winning the bigger games and the exposure from that that leads to more interviews and endorsement checks....he probably break even and STILL gets the chips ....winning frfr.... think about Hill...he got the bag but they lost first rd...no extra checks or interviews etc
Lotta people also forget Hill was given two choices; the Jets and the Dolphins both in the same division as the Bills and Patriots. Arguably the toughest competitor to the Chiefs and the best coach in the league besides Reid. Which proves both Veatch and Reid are football geniuses!!!
@@dromulio easy for you to say. Kelce is talking about a 10-15 million dollar difference per year,between him and recievers salaries hes comparable to.Meanwhile people in a uproar because Daniel Jones makes almost as much as Mahommes or Jalen makes 5 mil more per year😆.
Chiefs fan here: I like a lot of the guys on the Chiefs but Veach can never let Mahomes or Kelce walk. They are way too special to lose. They’re a dynamic duo and the best at their respective positions. I used to have Hill in that list too but, without him, we have done well so far and he has done well for himself in Miami. Regardless, Veach can’t let those two walk ever !
I mean as things are going, KC is going to have statues of Mahomes, Kelce, and Reid. Who in their right mind would let any of them ever go to another team?
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pocket watching is a disease that HEAVILY needs to be studied. why should anyone other than trav kelce, his family, the team he plays for, and his agents I suppose worry about how much he is making
Indeed, but remember that owners dont pay players based on their stadium income. Players are paid by the shared revenue from TV deals, while the cap is bargained for by the unions and owners. There is a spending floor in the nfl, and cap rollovers. Money allocated to players is it's own pool. One can argue the pool should be bigger, but paying 1 guy 100 million a year isnt hurting the owner. It just means you cant spend as much on the rest of the team. I'm not defending it, just clarifying. This isnt major league baseball where some teams can pay one player more than another can pay a whole roster.
Honestly , if it really came to a point where kelce was severely unhappy with his contract. I guarantee Mahomes would skim money off the top of his contract to give kelce more money. They seem to have that type of connection.
Tyreek Hill couldn't go the route of Travis Kelce or Patrick Mahomes due to his off the field issues. He really didn't have a choice of doing endorsements to offset the income he wasn't making on the field. NFL careers are short since he isn't doing commercials to offset his income he needs make as much as he can while he can.
@@carbon.the.christ5626 will be offset overtime. He is making himself a household name like Gronk and will have opportunities available for years after retirement from football and non football endorsements.
@@carbon.the.christ5626 I think he is suggesting that Hill's life after football will likely be far less lucrative. Kelce could make his current income doing sports commentary after he retires; Hill is far less likely to do so. Brady, for instance, will be pulling in 37.5 million a year doing broadcasting with Fox Sports. Kelce likely commands at least half of that. Hill does not.
As a Chiefs fan, I would not fault Kelce for going to get the bag. Do I want him to? Absolutely not, but I would understand it. Maybe the GM can drop a bonus in somehow. He has two years left go make some money 💰.He's given us everything he's got.
Agreed, I'm not surprised he said that but it's still weird to hear him say it bc he's been such a key role so you always wanna make sure he feels good with his money
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I loooove football. So much. It’s my favorite sport as it just gives me a freedom from my anxiety. But to hear a player (who I respect) and others comment on an athlete “needs to get paid more” to do a job that only one gender has the chance to do is crazy to me. I’m a sports fan woman who just got let go from her job making less than $50,000 a year due to “company reconstruction” in a right to work state and now I have to figure out how to find a way to pay my bills next month…it just breaks me a bit as I would give anything to make a fraction of what these players make to do something I actually love to do every day.
It seems like only a few players understand that the less money you make in football the higher chance you have at winning Super Bowls and the higher chance you have at making money outside of football.
Travis is also building a brand, Saturday night live, talk shows etc.. which comes with winning. We see him more and more, his brand can make him money for many years after football.
What the players have to understand, is that the NFL is a business and in that business you have to do things that you may not want to do to get to places that you want to go. Travis has already won two super bowls and participated in three he has proved himself worthy enough to be considered one of the greatest tight ends in NFL history and one of the highest paid. But that would always be overshadowed by how great his quarterback is😊
Kelce seems like the kind of guy who could make up some of this with off the field deals/ endorsements or whatever seems like a cool dude, keep winning chips do other things is his best option honestly
Joy is right. If he truly feels he's "being taken advantage of" he can go elsewhere and try his luck. He can also go over to Tyreek's house and watch the Superbowl from home because neither of them will be in it.
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Does happiness with a team doesn’t matter. Yes it does and endorsement matter a lot. Joy his choice and he realizes how much he enjoys being with this team
Patriots now the Chiefs have players at the top of their positions taking hometown discounts. It ruins the market for the players behind them. I always suspect somehow money being paid under the table. Who leaves tens of millions on the table to do their team a favor. These teams will cut you the moment you underperform the contract. It’s madness!
For high profile players who become household names, the "bag" is the long-term money made off the field, and after retiring from the game. Endorsements, deals, partnerships and investment opportunities rely on the fame your acquire while playing. I bet those 2 rings fetch Kelce already more money per year than what the Chiefs pay him. Look at the Brady-Fox contract. Travis has hit long-term paydirt with Mahomes and Reid, he'd be very short-sighted to throw that away. Which, by the way, he's not doing.
Kelce will recoup all that money with sponsorships because his team is succeeding. Having a great career always gives you more in the long run. If he retires as the best TE of all time he will make more outside of football than he would’ve inside of it. Always value your career and situation more than your contract past a certain point.
Don’t mess with happy. Kelce is playing with his bestie who is the best QB and for Andy who’s an offensive guru and a players’ coach while building a dynasty and playing in front of fans who love him. He’s living the dream while making $14M/yr. Kelce is the only TE who could get $20M/yr. There’s no resetting the market for TE’s though. He’s special.
Ive been saying this,they say Mahommes underpaid. But kelce is definitely more criminally underpaid. I think hes reffering more to the TE market. But its really his job to reset the market. Hes being underpaid because of his position title. Because he puts up wide reciever numbers😅. Hes probably the only TE who can reset the market though.
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They have to realize Travis Kelce just won his 2nd Super Bowl, him, his brother Jason and their mom were the talk of the Super Bowl week, the Kelce bowl, he has more endorsement deals from the Super Bowl, plus he’s in the madden trailer with Patrick Mahomes
@@jgard1168 It has everything to do with his long term money. Travis has the personality to be successful after football. He also has money tied up with his BFF (Mahomes) and brother Jason. Guys like this won't be broke 5 years out of the league
If Tony Gonzalez had they same players around him like Travis Kelce has now , you can’t tell he would have been doing good or just as better the Kelce! I don’t know what these people are talking about!
Very different. Kelce has elite run after catch ability. Tony had elite hands and positioning, but he was not a great run after catch guy like gates was.
@@homer3967 Gates was a contemporary of Tony. One who was better making plays after the catch and a guy who's playstyle comps with kelce more than tony.
McCoy makes this show ten times better….keep telling them how it is bro. You got experience and knowledge from past times and recent times. Chiefs kingdoms loves you.
I need someone to “take advantage” and give me $10 mil a year. Not bc Travis is crying (he’s not) but bc idk how tf else I’m supposed to make 10 mil lmao
@@KevonDaDon oh I know that fasho, between taxes and taking care of the fam but we also gotta remember he got deals outside of football too. But when you make $10 mil a year, you can pretty much help who you NEED to and still be chillin after taxes and bills are paid
This mentality only works if you're on an all-time great team with an all-time great QB and an all-time great head coach. You have to be guarenteed highly successful seasons and deep playoff runs. Tom Brady did the same thing for years in NE.
4 yr 57,250,000 moving 14 a year and 20,750,000 was guaranteed at signing! Life must be so hard the struggle is definitely real. Dude makes more money than a group of 10 people will make in their lives. If I ever got that sort of deal I would play my 4 years and never ask for another contract again 57 almost 60 million in 4 years sign me up but I don’t see how these type of people ever complain about money again it’s stupid
Simple fix...Brett Veach give Travis a $15 - $18 million bonus attached to his $14mil year salary like they did with Aaron Donald. That would put T.Kelce at $19mil or $20mil per season for the remaining 3yrs on his contract.
He got a good faith extension a couple years ago. Just some players like Tyreek, Watson, Wilson, and Murray taking teams to the cleaners without backing it up with wins or sometimes stats. TEs are looked at kinda different too than outside WRs. I mean if you're a slot inside WR you're kinda limited and teams aren't looking to you first as it is.
Kelcie should be making ATLEAST $25 PER. His stats are comparable and even better than some of the top WR#1 in this league. He's being pigeonholed bc of his position. He's been putting up numbers before MaHomes as well.
More on KC than Kelce speaking realistically loyalty should go both ways, if Kelce is remaining loyal knowing he can make more KC should just pay him maybe not the same but close to what other teams are willing to pay
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40,000 people are not paying money every Sunday to watch a heart surgeon do heart surgery lol, do heart surgeons sell merch? lol.. They dont have TV deals either lol
@johncods what's your point? Doesn't negate the fact these guys get criminal amounts of money to play a game. Underpaid? This guy has lost all sense of reality
In this particular game the guarantees are less and the risk more. 1 play, 1 hit, 1 diving catch could end his career. That's why guys feel they need the bag now.
@jca7343 is that attitude how u talk to your mom? And no, how capitalism functions does not confuse me. However, that does not mean it is the best possible system. In no way shape or form does a person that plays a game deserve the kind of money he thinks he deserves. It's outrageous. You can argue that he does but just because capitalism allows it doesn't make it right
The fact that there are league wide preconceptions of what a position is worth means the league even after all this time under-appreciates and under-values play makers and difference makers that don't play as typical WRs, Edge, Left Tackle etc. Are you scheming your offence or defence around a player? Are they consistently productive? Kelce is underpaid. It's obvious and that's the Chiefs failure (and Travis's). I have no problem with people taking less and weighing other priorities. To some extent I think you have to go that far to win, but the league's bias toward position pay vs individual production is really poor and unimaginative.
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Funny how they just left the end of his quote out.
“I don’t know if I really pressed the gas if I would get what I’m quote-unquote worth. But I know I enjoy coming to that building every single day.”
He said several times before this whole thing, that he chooses Dynastie and winning over the extra money. That's all there is to say.
Drama
It did not fit their narrative.
They didn't mention Gronk who not only was an unstoppable receiving TE but also ran over people with his hands in the dirt as a blocker. Gronk definitely took less to stay with Brady understanding that that relationship was hard if not impossible to duplicate elsewhere.
And 3 rings too!!!!! Fk yea bro
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Yes. Please be a voice of reason. At those levels it’s not about money as much as chasing Gronk
Difference is Gronk was always unlike Travis. But Travis is also a really good blocker as well. He just wasn’t as strong and as big as Gronk so he doesn’t have as many pancake blocks
@@ndukaonyeali3036Travis is not a good blocker dawg lol that’s why he plays slot or off the line lol he gets ate up against DEs and physical LBs. the only blocks he can do is goin against DBs. That is literally the reason they say he’s just a receiving TE lol
Slick got Acho in the end !!!! I LOVE IT.
"We were not talking about kelce like we are now 3 years ago". Nah he's been getting busy for 5". Try 9 years and 7 consecutive 1000 yard season Wtf are y'all on
It’s because they act like the Alex smith years don’t exist which annoys tf out of me
Sounds like he will be getting old in a few seasons. Either way his (future) children will never go hungry.
@@TheKingKamo I'm glad Mahomes still shows Alex love like he did on Travis's podcast
yall people can never accept a compliment 😂
@@princecheck11 these are supposed to be experts and they don't even know how long travis has been good. All I'm saying is this show throws out stats and numbers that aren't even true all the time. Joy and Ric make the show at this point shady can really only talk about the eagles and some football and little basketball and Acho just uses his tone and energy which is good but he plays too many favorites he's like an entertaining skip bayless
Love the show simply, for the fact that they talk about different teams subjects players in every position with four host from different backgrounds. This formula should have never ended for a sports talk show.
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By staying in KC Travis Kelce is going to end up being the greatest statistical TE of all time with some stats that will lead the league for a decade or more post retirement. Combine multiple rings, his untouchable stats, & his personality and if he wants it he is going to get a crazy media deal post retirement. He’s Peyton & Shannon combined into 1 person.
He still has a way to go to even catch Tony Gonzalez, he probs will have less TD’s and super bowls than Gronk and less stats than the Gonzalez. I think he is better but he will never make the money back he giving up.
@@sly0422he’ll be given a broadcasting job on some network, have his own podcast that’ll be huge and endorsements because of it. And he’s able to play longer bc he’s playing well w Mahomes. He definitely will make it back. Money isn’t everything
Statistically speaking, Kelce actually has a long way to go to lead all historical TEs.
However, he's only played 7 seasons thus far, and all other TEs at the top of the mountain have played 11+. Gronk played 11, Jimmy Graham played 11, Sharpe played 14, Gates played 16, Gonzalez played 17, Witten played 18.
If Kelce plays at a high level for 4 more seasons he'll *probably* be 2nd in yards and 3rd in TDs. If he continues to be a role player for another few years after that he could take the lead in every statistical category. But playing at a high level for 11 years is really, REALLY hard to do. He has to avoid injury for several more years.
I believe Trav’s priority is building his legacy - he’s aware he’s in the convo for GOAT TE.. he’s going to start passing people in front of him in yards - likely Antonio Gates this upcoming season.. he stands a better chance of ascending up the TE list and winning SBs if he takes less money and has the best QB in the NFL throwing him the ball…
No he isnt... gronk got that title😂
He ain't even good as shannon sharpe😂
Stop swanging😂😂😂. Never heard anyone call him trav😂😂😂. Get off that thang😂😂😂😮
Legacy doesn’t pay the bills!
@@briananderson9650Sharpe himself said he’s better😂🤡
Kittle blocks when not catching...theres a reason why they both have full respect for each other
As a chargers fan, nothing but respect for Travis and the chiefs, they will take care of him they know he’s too valuable to lose
They can't 😂 not without screwing the team over to pay him more
Kelce is in rarified air as he has a chance to go down as the GOAT TE which has a whole different value in itself as well. Their podcast is awesome but helps to have the Kelce bowl and even his mom is getting endorsements now!
Either you get paid, or you win. Those are your choices. (Unless you're a QB)
And when you win you get paid
But this is what Tom has done he takes a pay cut to spread that money around so that a team like the chiefs can win another ring
Yea ask Daniel Jones.
Don’t let it fool you only mahomes is winning. Rarely ever QBs that break the bank of wins Super Bowls.
Qbs shouldn't be overpaid
I love seeing how this always comes up as a conversation topic when it's Mahomes, Hill or Kelce. The Chiefs and the stars have an understanding, and it's not a secret. Hill was offered $26 million, decided he wanted $30 so the Chiefs approached him about a trade and he agreed. The Chiefs will pay Mahomes whatever he ask for. They won't pay Kelce whatever he asks for. He knows that. Of course it's totally valid for him to feel some kind of way from time to time. But when his game checks start coming in and W's start piling up -- he will again feel good about HIS decision to sacrifice money now to make money and build legacy forever.
Exactly. As if 57 million isn’t a ton of money anyway. You tell me imma make 57 mill and win several Super Bowl. Vs 80 mill and no super bowls. I’d take the super bowls and MILLIONS.
@dromulio not to mention the bonus checks for winning the bigger games and the exposure from that that leads to more interviews and endorsement checks....he probably break even and STILL gets the chips ....winning frfr.... think about Hill...he got the bag but they lost first rd...no extra checks or interviews etc
Lotta people also forget Hill was given two choices; the Jets and the Dolphins both in the same division as the Bills and Patriots. Arguably the toughest competitor to the Chiefs and the best coach in the league besides Reid. Which proves both Veatch and Reid are football geniuses!!!
@@dromulio easy for you to say. Kelce is talking about a 10-15 million dollar difference per year,between him and recievers salaries hes comparable to.Meanwhile people in a uproar because Daniel Jones makes almost as much as Mahommes or Jalen makes 5 mil more per year😆.
@@dromulio So easy to make these decisions when the check isn't made to your name.
Chiefs fan here: I like a lot of the guys on the Chiefs but Veach can never let Mahomes or Kelce walk. They are way too special to lose. They’re a dynamic duo and the best at their respective positions.
I used to have Hill in that list too but, without him, we have done well so far and he has done well for himself in Miami.
Regardless, Veach can’t let those two walk ever !
I mean as things are going, KC is going to have statues of Mahomes, Kelce, and Reid. Who in their right mind would let any of them ever go to another team?
Jones on defense is almost as needed. But those 2
@@ChiefGore429 I agree
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I’m waiting for the Bengals can’t afford this or the Eagles are undervaluing that conversations. The league wants the Chiefs to be dismantled
I hate the off the field money narrative because owners make a ton away from the game, and they still raise prices to make more...
then we should raise the salary cap
@@benguensche you do realize the cap goes up every year 🤦🏿♂️
@@qfrizell816 yeah so what exactly are you complaining about? if its not high enough raise it. If its high enough, give it a rest
pocket watching is a disease that HEAVILY needs to be studied. why should anyone other than trav kelce, his family, the team he plays for, and his agents I suppose worry about how much he is making
Indeed, but remember that owners dont pay players based on their stadium income.
Players are paid by the shared revenue from TV deals, while the cap is bargained for by the unions and owners.
There is a spending floor in the nfl, and cap rollovers. Money allocated to players is it's own pool.
One can argue the pool should be bigger, but paying 1 guy 100 million a year isnt hurting the owner. It just means you cant spend as much on the rest of the team.
I'm not defending it, just clarifying. This isnt major league baseball where some teams can pay one player more than another can pay a whole roster.
Honestly , if it really came to a point where kelce was severely unhappy with his contract. I guarantee Mahomes would skim money off the top of his contract to give kelce more money. They seem to have that type of connection.
Tyreek Hill couldn't go the route of Travis Kelce or Patrick Mahomes due to his off the field issues. He really didn't have a choice of doing endorsements to offset the income he wasn't making on the field. NFL careers are short since he isn't doing commercials to offset his income he needs make as much as he can while he can.
Its hard to offset 10-15 mil a year in endorsemnts for Kelce too im pretty sure.
@@carbon.the.christ5626 will be offset overtime. He is making himself a household name like Gronk and will have opportunities available for years after retirement from football and non football endorsements.
@@carbon.the.christ5626 I think he is suggesting that Hill's life after football will likely be far less lucrative. Kelce could make his current income doing sports commentary after he retires; Hill is far less likely to do so. Brady, for instance, will be pulling in 37.5 million a year doing broadcasting with Fox Sports. Kelce likely commands at least half of that. Hill does not.
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Travis Kelce is better than Gronk. The reason why people say Gronk is the best of all time is because Tom Brady got him all of his rings.
Fox would kick Gronk to the curb in a second for Kelce on their broadcast crew also when he chooses to retire. Kelce>Gronk at everything.
If Gronk would have stayed healthy like TC has & been able to play at that high level longer it would be a close call.
As a Chiefs fan, I would not fault Kelce for going to get the bag. Do I want him to? Absolutely not, but I would understand it. Maybe the GM can drop a bonus in somehow. He has two years left go make some money 💰.He's given us everything he's got.
Agreed, I'm not surprised he said that but it's still weird to hear him say it bc he's been such a key role so you always wanna make sure he feels good with his money
F that, he's retiring in KC. Man can live and eat for free for the rest of his life in KC. Plus New Heights is popping
You ain't no chief fan and it shows
*PATRICK DUNGLICKERHOMES HAS ZERO RINGS AND IS THE WORST QB IN THE NFL AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN INSIDE THE OCEANGATE SUBMARINE WHEN IT DISAPPEARED INTO THE TITANIC WRECKAGE AND WILL COLLAPSE ON THE FIELD LIKE DAMAR HAMLIN*
@@brent4536 *PATRICK DUNGLICKERHOMES HAS ZERO RINGS AND IS THE WORST QB IN THE NFL AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN INSIDE THE OCEANGATE SUBMARINE WHEN IT DISAPPEARED INTO THE TITANIC WRECKAGE AND WILL COLLAPSE ON THE FIELD LIKE DAMAR HAMLIN*
“You gotta fight, for your right, to paaaarrrty”!!!! Pay Travis Kelce💰💰💰💰💰
Did you just make that up? Never heard it before
@@TonySoprano-mm8ipit was said by Joe burrow after they he won the Super Bowl, you don’t remember?
@@Rockurpants1 funny
*PATRICK DUNGLICKERHOMES HAS ZERO RINGS AND IS THE WORST QB IN THE NFL AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN INSIDE THE OCEANGATE SUBMARINE WHEN IT DISAPPEARED INTO THE TITANIC WRECKAGE AND WILL COLLAPSE ON THE FIELD LIKE DAMAR HAMLIN*
I loooove football. So much. It’s my favorite sport as it just gives me a freedom from my anxiety. But to hear a player (who I respect) and others comment on an athlete “needs to get paid more” to do a job that only one gender has the chance to do is crazy to me. I’m a sports fan woman who just got let go from her job making less than $50,000 a year due to “company reconstruction” in a right to work state and now I have to figure out how to find a way to pay my bills next month…it just breaks me a bit as I would give anything to make a fraction of what these players make to do something I actually love to do every day.
Maybe post the entire quote tf he literally says he loves being a champ more.
That’s how they get their views lol click bait
"Making three or four or TWO times as much"
Great counting there Acho
It seems like only a few players understand that the less money you make in football the higher chance you have at winning Super Bowls and the higher chance you have at making money outside of football.
Not true at all. It’s plenty of broke champions
Only 1 team can win the superbowl. So getting paid has to be priority number 1
@@coldskyrim has to be number 1. Your family comes first.
SuperBowls don’t pay the bills, money does.. you still need your money for after you retire
@@carlgilmore-murry5789 y’all act like they will be paid minimum wage if they don’t try and get a big contract.
Travis is also building a brand, Saturday night live, talk shows etc.. which comes with winning. We see him more and more, his brand can make him money for many years after football.
A great legacy is priceless!!! Not always about the money. Plenty of dudes that play a good game and are making bank...but weak legacy.
Idk why buy when they admit to giving takes before the show It takes
Some
Of the juice
Out.
What the players have to understand, is that the NFL is a business and in that business you have to do things that you may not want to do to get to places that you want to go. Travis has already won two super bowls and participated in three he has proved himself worthy enough to be considered one of the greatest tight ends in NFL history and one of the highest paid. But that would always be overshadowed by how great his quarterback is😊
I didn't hear them mention the rest of the story. Kelce said he's OK with his situation.
Kelce seems like the kind of guy who could make up some of this with off the field deals/ endorsements or whatever seems like a cool dude, keep winning chips do other things is his best option honestly
Why should he?😠
Win and make just as much money or go a team that sucks
Hearing Joy talk is hard asf
Women and sports will never mix well
No one at that desk understands legacy and honor.
Just remember it seems like hill is regretting leaving
Great segment!
Joy is right. If he truly feels he's "being taken advantage of" he can go elsewhere and try his luck. He can also go over to Tyreek's house and watch the Superbowl from home because neither of them will be in it.
Hate to break it to ya but neither will the chiefs without Kelse
@@julianwatts9024 I'm not a Chiefs fan and you literally have zero proof, or a functioning memory.
you are talking like Travis aint a big reason why the Chiefs win those SBs lol
People hate Chiefs top players are taking less because they think its giving them a competitive advantage. Florio and people are jealous period!
If they win a championship then it’s definitely the chiefs dynasty
Already is
@@Jacob-nu4ndneeds 3 chips just like every other true dynasty.
@@Jacob-nu4nd2 chips and superbowl loss not dynasty
*PATRICK DUNGLICKERHOMES HAS ZERO RINGS AND IS THE WORST QB IN THE NFL AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN INSIDE THE OCEANGATE SUBMARINE WHEN IT DISAPPEARED INTO THE TITANIC WRECKAGE AND WILL COLLAPSE ON THE FIELD LIKE DAMAR HAMLIN*
@@Jacob-nu4nd *PATRICK DUNGLICKERHOMES HAS ZERO RINGS AND IS THE WORST QB IN THE NFL AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN INSIDE THE OCEANGATE SUBMARINE WHEN IT DISAPPEARED INTO THE TITANIC WRECKAGE AND WILL COLLAPSE ON THE FIELD LIKE DAMAR HAMLIN*
Does happiness with a team doesn’t matter. Yes it does and endorsement matter a lot. Joy his choice and he realizes how much he enjoys being with this team
The money he makes off the field is not a reason to lower the salary he makes on the field. I wish media commentators would stop bringing that up
He would make a lot less off the field if he wasn’t on an SB team though
Patriots now the Chiefs have players at the top of their positions taking hometown discounts. It ruins the market for the players behind them. I always suspect somehow money being paid under the table. Who leaves tens of millions on the table to do their team a favor. These teams will cut you the moment you underperform the contract. It’s madness!
For high profile players who become household names, the "bag" is the long-term money made off the field, and after retiring from the game. Endorsements, deals, partnerships and investment opportunities rely on the fame your acquire while playing. I bet those 2 rings fetch Kelce already more money per year than what the Chiefs pay him. Look at the Brady-Fox contract. Travis has hit long-term paydirt with Mahomes and Reid, he'd be very short-sighted to throw that away. Which, by the way, he's not doing.
Whoever picked out Joy outfit is the real MVP
@@Mr8thwonderofthewrldyou’re sick, get some help
who ever writes her stuff is the real MVP
Kelce will recoup all that money with sponsorships because his team is succeeding. Having a great career always gives you more in the long run. If he retires as the best TE of all time he will make more outside of football than he would’ve inside of it. Always value your career and situation more than your contract past a certain point.
They need to show what he said after that
He Deserves His Bread he’s one of the Best Tight Ends in the NFL
Kelce is Football Rich meaning the game of football where it matters QB, Coach, Ownership all solid and this team wins
Stick to basketball Rick, dude really said he wasn’t that dude before 2020 lol
This was a good discussion
You get paid a kings ransom for a child’s game
It’s called a privilege
Go for work for Walmart warehouse if it’s so bad mr Kelce
How come these convos only happen when you start winning SB’s, ppl always Tryn to sabotage
😂😂😂 Shady didn’t get busy anywhere else after Philly.
Love y’all 🙏🏽😇
all players get paid to more for playing a game when we have soldiers risking their lives so they can play the game
Don’t mess with happy. Kelce is playing with his bestie who is the best QB and for Andy who’s an offensive guru and a players’ coach while building a dynasty and playing in front of fans who love him. He’s living the dream while making $14M/yr.
Kelce is the only TE who could get $20M/yr. There’s no resetting the market for TE’s though. He’s special.
Ive been saying this,they say Mahommes underpaid. But kelce is definitely more criminally underpaid. I think hes reffering more to the TE market. But its really his job to reset the market. Hes being underpaid because of his position title. Because he puts up wide reciever numbers😅. Hes probably the only TE who can reset the market though.
So who exactly are they paying ? Where’s this money going
*PATRICK DUNGLICKERHOMES HAS ZERO RINGS AND IS THE WORST QB IN THE NFL AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN INSIDE THE OCEANGATE SUBMARINE WHEN IT DISAPPEARED INTO THE TITANIC WRECKAGE AND WILL COLLAPSE ON THE FIELD LIKE DAMAR HAMLIN*
@@ryanlebard3787Chris Jones and Patrick Mahomes are pretty good… where do you think lol
@@nikeguy2 that’s only 2 players? And Mahomes has a team friendly contract he’s not even top 5 in QB pay next year
he's only got a few years left and he's playing with prime mahomes. 10 mil a year aint peanuts
They have to realize Travis Kelce just won his 2nd Super Bowl, him, his brother Jason and their mom were the talk of the Super Bowl week, the Kelce bowl, he has more endorsement deals from the Super Bowl, plus he’s in the madden trailer with Patrick Mahomes
That has nothing to do with what he’s saying lol, the dude is super underpaid on the field is what we’re talking about lol
@@jgard1168 It has everything to do with his long term money. Travis has the personality to be successful after football. He also has money tied up with his BFF (Mahomes) and brother Jason. Guys like this won't be broke 5 years out of the league
Kelce been getting busy longer then 5 yrs
If Tony Gonzalez had they same players around him like Travis Kelce has now , you can’t tell he would have been doing good or just as better the Kelce! I don’t know what these people are talking about!
Very different. Kelce has elite run after catch ability.
Tony had elite hands and positioning, but he was not a great run after catch guy like gates was.
@@whitewhale9012 that’s not correct!
@@homer3967 Yes it 100% is.
@@whitewhale9012 What does Gates has to do with this? This is about Gonzalez and Kelce? You totally went off subject?
@@homer3967 Gates was a contemporary of Tony. One who was better making plays after the catch and a guy who's playstyle comps with kelce more than tony.
McCoy makes this show ten times better….keep telling them how it is bro. You got experience and knowledge from past times and recent times. Chiefs kingdoms loves you.
I need someone to “take advantage” and give me $10 mil a year. Not bc Travis is crying (he’s not) but bc idk how tf else I’m supposed to make 10 mil lmao
That 10 mil gettin broke down he not getting all of that
@@KevonDaDon oh I know that fasho, between taxes and taking care of the fam but we also gotta remember he got deals outside of football too. But when you make $10 mil a year, you can pretty much help who you NEED to and still be chillin after taxes and bills are paid
It's hilarious that all these talking heads act like The Chiefs win a SB every year.
I agree with her!
Kelce owns a chain of car washes. He'll be able to get by.
I don't see Darren Waller with a piece in Vanity Fair. Its VF not a sports magazine and Travis Kelce is in it. Dude has crossed into the mainstream.
TK been getting busy since 2016 honestly. 80 plus catches and 1k plus yards every year.
This mentality only works if you're on an all-time great team with an all-time great QB and an all-time great head coach. You have to be guarenteed highly successful seasons and deep playoff runs. Tom Brady did the same thing for years in NE.
He also said in the say quote that he likes winning more then money
4 yr 57,250,000 moving 14 a year and 20,750,000 was guaranteed at signing! Life must be so hard the struggle is definitely real. Dude makes more money than a group of 10 people will make in their lives. If I ever got that sort of deal I would play my 4 years and never ask for another contract again 57 almost 60 million in 4 years sign me up but I don’t see how these type of people ever complain about money again it’s stupid
Kelce isn't complaining. He says he is ok with the situation. The video doesn't show the entire clip.
It's a violent game. Get all the money you can. It's not your job to build the team. Get paid folks, get paid
lowkey see some tension there with the whole crew when acho brings up the “homie leaving” part
Simple fix...Brett Veach give Travis a $15 - $18 million bonus attached to his $14mil year salary like they did with Aaron Donald.
That would put T.Kelce at $19mil or $20mil per season for the remaining 3yrs on his contract.
Joy making alot of solid points. I give her props because alot of women in her position just don't be talkin about shiiii
Exactly Joy tell ‘em boo !
He got a good faith extension a couple years ago. Just some players like Tyreek, Watson, Wilson, and Murray taking teams to the cleaners without backing it up with wins or sometimes stats. TEs are looked at kinda different too than outside WRs. I mean if you're a slot inside WR you're kinda limited and teams aren't looking to you first as it is.
Slot inside wrs even get paid more den top TEs.
15 million and he is being taken advantage of?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Kelcie should be making ATLEAST $25 PER. His stats are comparable and even better than some of the top WR#1 in this league. He's being pigeonholed bc of his position. He's been putting up numbers before MaHomes as well.
He's actually more value than most receivers. I can tell by where he gets drafted in fantasy football.
They handed him 3 mill bonus before last season.
More on KC than Kelce speaking realistically loyalty should go both ways, if Kelce is remaining loyal knowing he can make more KC should just pay him maybe not the same but close to what other teams are willing to pay
I think this debate is 4 u guys, trying to stir up something. I hate the Media n some talkshow.
didnt this conversation come up last year as well. and Kelce said he is being paid less to help his team get more players.
When Travis signed that deal he was 30 years old. How many other teams would have given him 4 at 57 mill? The Chiefs took that risk and it paid off.
Everyone thinks they’re underpaid
Slick Rick does it again ! He is soo smart !!!!! 😊
why didn't you finsh the quote!
*PATRICK DUNGLICKERHOMES HAS ZERO RINGS AND IS THE WORST QB IN THE NFL AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN INSIDE THE OCEANGATE SUBMARINE WHEN IT DISAPPEARED INTO THE TITANIC WRECKAGE AND WILL COLLAPSE ON THE FIELD LIKE DAMAR HAMLIN*
Contentment with Godliness is great gain
Fire your agent , Don’t sign the next extension if you don’t like the numbers.
In a few years I think elite TEs will be the second highest paid offense players after QBs
Are we still pretending that SNL is relevant in 2023?
They totally misinterpreted what he said. He clearly said free agency makes you think you're being taken advantage of when you get money.
If you get paid more than a heart surgeon to play a game you are not being taken advantage of.
40,000 people are not paying money every Sunday to watch a heart surgeon do heart surgery lol, do heart surgeons sell merch? lol.. They dont have TV deals either lol
@johncods what's your point? Doesn't negate the fact these guys get criminal amounts of money to play a game. Underpaid? This guy has lost all sense of reality
In this particular game the guarantees are less and the risk more. 1 play, 1 hit, 1 diving catch could end his career. That's why guys feel they need the bag now.
@@Dad4changethey get paid their market value. Does capitalism confuse you?
@jca7343 is that attitude how u talk to your mom? And no, how capitalism functions does not confuse me. However, that does not mean it is the best possible system. In no way shape or form does a person that plays a game deserve the kind of money he thinks he deserves. It's outrageous. You can argue that he does but just because capitalism allows it doesn't make it right
The fact that there are league wide preconceptions of what a position is worth means the league even after all this time under-appreciates and under-values play makers and difference makers that don't play as typical WRs, Edge, Left Tackle etc. Are you scheming your offence or defence around a player? Are they consistently productive? Kelce is underpaid. It's obvious and that's the Chiefs failure (and Travis's). I have no problem with people taking less and weighing other priorities. To some extent I think you have to go that far to win, but the league's bias toward position pay vs individual production is really poor and unimaginative.
In a salary cap league. You cannot pay everyone top dollar. And if you can get more money somewhere else, no one is gonna blame you.
Kyle Pitts is gonna break the mold for “WideEnds” 😂
They are roasting on Slim 😂
That’s how it works so all the good players don’t end up on one team. There’s a cap.
Anything to do to break up the Chiefs!
You didn’t use the whole quote, CLOWNS! He said winning is more important at the end.