@@Jason2890 cheers. The lanturn double ghost, but I've played a few noctowl lead that swap into lanturn, with swamp or g Fisk at the back. If I throw zc and swap then de-sync is a bit annoying. If straight swap basti sometimes can't win 2 shield. Any thoughts?
@@chrisy2378 ehh, I typically wouldn’t answer a Lanturn safe swap with Bastiodon. I’d probably go Medi with the intention of ramping up with Power Up Punch to stall switch timer and then I’d pivot back into Registeel after Noctowl comes back in to preserve Medi if possible. Though if you want to go the Bastiodon route you can throw Zap into Lanturn first, then when you bring Bastiodon in try to keep as much energy as possible on it so you can throw moves to stall switch timer if they pivot out of Lanturn at some point.
Typically shield once and go straight Zap Cannon. If they match your shield and win lead you just farm them down with Bastiodon. Your Zap Cannon + Lock On damage typically puts them low enough to take out with Medi later if they swap out to preserve it.
It would do alright. It’ll give you more play vs opponents that have their own Gfisk or Registeel in the back. However, the downsides are that you have less dominating matchups (Noctowl/Charizard for instance) and you almost always have to throw energy to kill something that you answer with Gfisk as opposed to Bastiodon which can come out of a matchup with 100 energy in a lot of cases.
@@Jason2890 thanks for the feedback - I'd love to try aba steel so I might try it out. I also don't have a bulkpoint regi for the fisk matchup so I'll try to find someone who can mirror trade at EUIC this weekend!
Depends on the double fighters. If they safe swap Sirfetch’d then you have to answer with Medi and try to stall switch clock as much as possible, hopefully shield up a Brave Bird, then pivot back into Registeel as quickly as possible once they bring Noctowl back in. If they’re fast on bringing Noctowl back in though you usually lose, since you need to try to preserve as much health/energy/shields on Medi as possible. Once you pivot back into Registeel they usually answer with Medi in the back. You need to try to land a Zap Cannon plus debuff them and then hope your Medi from earlier can take it out so you can get Bastiodon on Noctowl. Not gonna lie though, that specific team is usually a loss for this team.
Recipe for Basti, S Vic and Medi in back. Stay in when Vic comes in. Zap Cannon. You survive their Charged Move. If they don’t shield you win switch after you Focus Blast. They show the Medi and you meet with your Medi and shield when they throw at Psychic energy. In my case got opponent to surrender and Basti saw zero playtime. Got suggestions for S. Swampert and Swampert lead?
Just stay in with Regi and throw Focus Blast and let Regi die. You’ll either get a shield or cripple Swampert to the point where it can easily be beaten later. Then just bring in Medi after Regi dies.
Thank you for this video, been looking forward to it... Two questions: - how viable do you think this lineup is with a worse iv Registeel, namely one that doesn't have the g fisk mudshot breakpoint? - how do you compare Registeel as a lead vs the other leads commonly used with this backline (s vic, s dragonair)?
It’s still fine without a bulky Registeel. You still pace to the first Focus Blast before they get to EQ so you at least get to put them to a shielding decision first. I think Registeel is the ultimate lead for this backline since it has flexible matchups even against its counters. Svic and S Dragonair both can get walled by certain Pokémon, which means you can’t put as much pressure on your opponent if you run into a bad matchup. And on the plus side you often beat teams with the same backline running Svic or S Dragonair up front as well.
@@jozimastar95 I disagree, because if they no shield then Zap Cannon doesn’t do enough damage to get them into Flamethrower range for Bastiodon later in case they pivot out of Gfisk once Registeel goes down and you bring Medicham in, which makes it significantly harder to kill later. Also, depending on IVs if you land FB you can farm down Gfisk in the 2s if the opponent baits rock slides and you no shield them. Going for Zap takes away that option from you. Not to mention you would CMP tie them with Zap Cannon vs their EQ if throw immediately which forces you to a shielding decision before them. Not super important in the scheme of things, but putting pressure on your opponent to shield a big move first is helpful.
I was so close to vet. I appreciate ABA Steel but there were several matches where I'd get a good lead that both Regi and Basti could handle. I'd struggle then with Trevenant safe swaps because I definitely did not want to show Medi and also didn't feel the need to bring in Basti yet.
If Regi can handle the lead then you can safely bring Bastiodon in vs Trevenant and win switch. Then you get Regi paired vs their lead and Medi vs whatever their back Pokémon ends up being.
My team IVs are in the video description. Vs Trev lead I usually play out the 1s. If you get a Zap Cannon debuff on the first throw then Trev can’t farm you down before you get to your 3rd Zap Cannon, so you force them to throw energy or double shield.
I actually have an Evolution Cup video from 6 months ago! ruclips.net/video/mVPEMn0YkO0/видео.html It’s still a viable team in the current meta. The only major difference is that some people run Dusclops with Poltergeist now, but honestly that’s perfectly fine. If anything, it’s better for this team because it forces them to go straight Ice Punch if you get Chansey aligned with it rather than getting to throw Return.
@@Jason2890 Ive got two lucky chanseys one is 14/15/14 which loses the mirror but wins all the same matchups the other is 15/13/15 which ties the mirror but loses WAY harder to dragonair 393 rating vs 297 which one to build in your opinion
@@chappikingofjoberg3583 you just sac Regi vs Swampert leads. Regi either gets a shield advantage or cripples Swampert. Medi finishes it off and Bastiodon sweeps the back since Swampert always run anti-grass in the back. Idk if you realize this but every single team in existence is ABA weak to some Pokémon, lol. As long as you have a strategy on how to play vs your corebreakers then it’s perfectly manageable.
Great video! You have examples of all of the most common leads, I appreciate you sharing your thought process on handling those.
Thanks for the vid!
How do you deal with lanturn/sable/trev SS? Throw Zap and swap to basti or insta swap?
I actually play against that exact team in this video! Check around 12:52.
@@Jason2890 cheers. The lanturn double ghost, but I've played a few noctowl lead that swap into lanturn, with swamp or g Fisk at the back. If I throw zc and swap then de-sync is a bit annoying. If straight swap basti sometimes can't win 2 shield. Any thoughts?
@@chrisy2378 ehh, I typically wouldn’t answer a Lanturn safe swap with Bastiodon. I’d probably go Medi with the intention of ramping up with Power Up Punch to stall switch timer and then I’d pivot back into Registeel after Noctowl comes back in to preserve Medi if possible.
Though if you want to go the Bastiodon route you can throw Zap into Lanturn first, then when you bring Bastiodon in try to keep as much energy as possible on it so you can throw moves to stall switch timer if they pivot out of Lanturn at some point.
Super video, I was waiting to see this team in action. Thanks for sharing!
Cool team! How do you handle neutral leads? Like sableye or trevenant?
Typically shield once and go straight Zap Cannon. If they match your shield and win lead you just farm them down with Bastiodon. Your Zap Cannon + Lock On damage typically puts them low enough to take out with Medi later if they swap out to preserve it.
Hi! Do you think this would function with gfisk in the back, as i dont have an xl basti quite yet
It would do alright. It’ll give you more play vs opponents that have their own Gfisk or Registeel in the back. However, the downsides are that you have less dominating matchups (Noctowl/Charizard for instance) and you almost always have to throw energy to kill something that you answer with Gfisk as opposed to Bastiodon which can come out of a matchup with 100 energy in a lot of cases.
@@Jason2890 thanks for the feedback - I'd love to try aba steel so I might try it out. I also don't have a bulkpoint regi for the fisk matchup so I'll try to find someone who can mirror trade at EUIC this weekend!
This is great man, thanks!
How do you deal will noctowl double fighter ?
Depends on the double fighters. If they safe swap Sirfetch’d then you have to answer with Medi and try to stall switch clock as much as possible, hopefully shield up a Brave Bird, then pivot back into Registeel as quickly as possible once they bring Noctowl back in. If they’re fast on bringing Noctowl back in though you usually lose, since you need to try to preserve as much health/energy/shields on Medi as possible.
Once you pivot back into Registeel they usually answer with Medi in the back. You need to try to land a Zap Cannon plus debuff them and then hope your Medi from earlier can take it out so you can get Bastiodon on Noctowl. Not gonna lie though, that specific team is usually a loss for this team.
@@Jason2890 great reply thanks
Recipe for Basti, S Vic and Medi in back. Stay in when Vic comes in. Zap Cannon. You survive their Charged Move. If they don’t shield you win switch after you Focus Blast. They show the Medi and you meet with your Medi and shield when they throw at Psychic energy. In my case got opponent to surrender and Basti saw zero playtime.
Got suggestions for S. Swampert and Swampert lead?
Just stay in with Regi and throw Focus Blast and let Regi die. You’ll either get a shield or cripple Swampert to the point where it can easily be beaten later. Then just bring in Medi after Regi dies.
Thank you for this video, been looking forward to it... Two questions:
- how viable do you think this lineup is with a worse iv Registeel, namely one that doesn't have the g fisk mudshot breakpoint?
- how do you compare Registeel as a lead vs the other leads commonly used with this backline (s vic, s dragonair)?
It’s still fine without a bulky Registeel. You still pace to the first Focus Blast before they get to EQ so you at least get to put them to a shielding decision first.
I think Registeel is the ultimate lead for this backline since it has flexible matchups even against its counters. Svic and S Dragonair both can get walled by certain Pokémon, which means you can’t put as much pressure on your opponent if you run into a bad matchup. And on the plus side you often beat teams with the same backline running Svic or S Dragonair up front as well.
He is wrong ,you should go for zap canon first since you cant ohko stunfisk and it will reach eq anyway
@@jozimastar95 I disagree, because if they no shield then Zap Cannon doesn’t do enough damage to get them into Flamethrower range for Bastiodon later in case they pivot out of Gfisk once Registeel goes down and you bring Medicham in, which makes it significantly harder to kill later. Also, depending on IVs if you land FB you can farm down Gfisk in the 2s if the opponent baits rock slides and you no shield them. Going for Zap takes away that option from you.
Not to mention you would CMP tie them with Zap Cannon vs their EQ if throw immediately which forces you to a shielding decision before them. Not super important in the scheme of things, but putting pressure on your opponent to shield a big move first is helpful.
@@jozimastar95 Imagine calling someone who has hit first place on the leaderboards wrong 🤯
I was running gfisk, trevenant, registeel in this season since I'm tired of rps fast move lines with carbink in back.
This line got me a nice 5-0 into Vet tier. But thereafter was team comped with Fisk, Noct and Medi.
Thanks King Cuphead...lol
You look like Carl Sagan reincarnated
He is as bright as Sagan, too!
I was so close to vet. I appreciate ABA Steel but there were several matches where I'd get a good lead that both Regi and Basti could handle. I'd struggle then with Trevenant safe swaps because I definitely did not want to show Medi and also didn't feel the need to bring in Basti yet.
If Regi can handle the lead then you can safely bring Bastiodon in vs Trevenant and win switch. Then you get Regi paired vs their lead and Medi vs whatever their back Pokémon ends up being.
Your regi iv ?? Trev lead ??
My team IVs are in the video description. Vs Trev lead I usually play out the 1s. If you get a Zap Cannon debuff on the first throw then Trev can’t farm you down before you get to your 3rd Zap Cannon, so you force them to throw energy or double shield.
thanks for the upload. could u do evolution cup degeneracy?
I actually have an Evolution Cup video from 6 months ago! ruclips.net/video/mVPEMn0YkO0/видео.html
It’s still a viable team in the current meta. The only major difference is that some people run Dusclops with Poltergeist now, but honestly that’s perfectly fine. If anything, it’s better for this team because it forces them to go straight Ice Punch if you get Chansey aligned with it rather than getting to throw Return.
@@Jason2890 Ive got two lucky chanseys one is 14/15/14 which loses the mirror but wins all the same matchups the other is 15/13/15 which ties the mirror but loses WAY harder to dragonair 393 rating vs 297 which one to build in your opinion
@@MegaLolcade probably the 14/15/14 in that case since an even energy mirror is pretty unlikely with Chansey if you don’t lead it.
thanks
I hate ABA steel 😢
Bad team
Bad team for bad players, but an amazing team for good players! 🙌
@@Jason2890 aba weak to swampert but ok have fun playing rps brainrot
@@chappikingofjoberg3583 you just sac Regi vs Swampert leads. Regi either gets a shield advantage or cripples Swampert. Medi finishes it off and Bastiodon sweeps the back since Swampert always run anti-grass in the back.
Idk if you realize this but every single team in existence is ABA weak to some Pokémon, lol. As long as you have a strategy on how to play vs your corebreakers then it’s perfectly manageable.
@@Jason2890 but swampert in the back and this team shits its pants lmfao
@@Jason2890 dont need to lie to yourself its basically a meme team