Ok so Shadow isn't from the future, but he IS from the future relative to the point in time where Elise was a child, but he's not from the future to the present, he's actually from 50 years in the past based on a prophecy that an old science man saw and was like "what if I could cure a terminal illness and it looked like a hedgehog?" I leave you with exactly this much context to clarify your confusion. Hope this helps! You picked a WILD lore entry point!
Better he starts with Elise than someone like Shadow since she's relevant only this game and that one time Big mentions her in Shadow Gens and nowhere else
Honestly considering the absurd situations Big the Cat got involved in because he always end up looking for Froggy across the games, it isn't entirely the fandom's fault.
I mean, Big the Cat managed to get inside the core of the Space Colony Ark's Eclipse Cannon while it was on its collision course with the planet. Just... HOW did he get there???
Shadow is not from the future, he just time traveled with Silver (who is from the future) at that time. Shadow’s lore is some of the most intriguing bits of Sonic lore, definitely recommend watching some stuff about it
Hey, I edited this video! Glad you enjoyed, it was definitely very entertaining to watch someone who doesn't know much about Sonic dive headfirst into the craziest part of its lore, and it was especially cool to see someone's first take on Sonic 06's story/design without knowing the discourse/infamy surrounding it!
This certainly was a starting point for my Sonic lore deep dive lol. The editing for this video is peak. Massive props to you and the team for making such banger videos!
3:22 For clarification, Sonic 06 was not the first of its kind. It was meant to be a follow up to the Sonic Adventure games which, while flawed, mostly functioned consistently and as intended. Many of the mechanics in this game had already been done previously but comparatively this game had more levels, more playstyles, more types of interactable vehicles, different hardware to run off of, different writers, attention split between it and another game, deadlines that were set too soon, etc., etc. There was a whole thing where Sega formed a conglomerate with Sammy Corporation while the game was being made. It had good bones but circumstance took a bat and shattered them. Edit: Also the games that followed were rail action games, 2d handhelds, and an RPG. None of this games DNA made it into the immediate following products. In fact fans blamed the size of the cast for its failing causing Sonic Team to avoid including playables other than sonic for over a decade. They're starting to be more open to it again though with things like Sonic Mania, Sonic and Shadow generations, and The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog having other characters not only be playable but even be the protagonists of their stories.
Although Sonic 06 didn't destroy Sonic financially, I don't think it's too hyperbolic to say it killed Sonic's reputation as a respected game series for a long time. But funnily enough, nowadays I actually see a lot more appreciation for its ambition and untapped potential. After Sonic 06 was ridiculed by critics and fans alike, Sega pivoted HARD. I feel like they used everything about Sonic 06 as an example of what NOT to do anymore, and this is what led to, what I like to call, the "Ironic Sonic Era." Rather than push forward with ambitious but risky ideas, they'd instead look to the past for inspiration on what people originally loved about Sonic. This also meant much simpler and more comedic storytelling almost to the level of the 90s' cartoon. They also took a very "self-aware" approach to Sonic's branding. They'd poke fun at themselves a lot and embrace the memes that were meant to mock Sonic. They were trying to turn "laughing at you" to "laughing with you." I feel like this worked for a while, but Sonic fans eventually grew sick of this approach. They felt like Sega lacked confidence in their own creation and were playing it too safely. Sega was trying so hard not to repeat Sonic 06's mistakes, but this would result in games that some fans felt were too simple, had character dialogue that was too childish, were pandering to nostalgia, and generally felt like there was no weight to them. Thus, the unthinkable happened. People started to actually show Sonic 06 and other critically panned Sonic games of that era more appreciation. Not because they were suddenly good games now, but because they had ambition and drive that Sonic fans missed. Speaking personally, I don't think the "Ironic Sonic Era" was all bad. I do enjoy the classic aesthetic, some of the self-aware humor was funny, and we did get Sonic Generations out of it. But I feel like Sonic is in a much better state today. The branding has shown more confidence, they aren't afraid to tell a deeper story, they aren't ashamed of their early 2000s past, and we've been getting some real good games lately.
There's a bunch of REALLY good videos from AlTheBoi about Sonic the first I'd recommend watching is the latest called "The Soul Of Sonic Stories" it doesn't explain specifics about the lore but it does explain the style and particularly the character of Sonic himself
I always imagined Elses' story would have been better if she was presented more like Anita from The DarkStalkers OVA. Not allowing herself to show any emotions from the start, but slowly opening up over the story. Allowing herself to get angry at Eggman, and eventually smile and laugh around Sonic. Then, after slowly letting down her guard throughout the game and allowing herself to explore all the caged up emotions she's had bottled up since she was a child, Mephiles takes the opportunity to strike down Sonic when Elies is most vulnerable and she is unable to hold back the tears.
Sonic 06 was rushed out the door by Sega to meet a Christmas deadline. The game wasn't anywhere near to being finished. As others have said, you should definitely watch AllTheBoi's most recent video about Sonic storytelling
So the funny thing here is that Sonic '06 actually sold pretty well; when people talk about it almost killing the franchise, it's moreso in regards to the series' reputation. Hot off the heels of the Adventure games and Heroes, we had the super edgy Shadow the Hedgehog game where he drove motorcycles, swore and used a gun, and that got a lot of mockery. A lot of fans that grew up on the Genesis trilogy (and CD) were kind of aging out of the series and against the greater focus on story and all the new characters...and then comes Sonic '06. A game that had even MORE new characters, probably the most mangled story of the series up until that point AND it was a rushed, buggy mess, and it has haunted the series for almost 20 years. Pretty much right after '06 the narrative changed to "Sonic was never good" or "Sonic had a rough transition to 3D," and the series became a laughing stock. It didn't help that some games (Secret Rings, Black Night and Unleashed) had elements that people also disliked. Colors had better reception and Generations was also very successful and well regarded...and then almost immediately afterward the series stumbled again with Sonic Lost World, Sonic Boom and Sonic Forces being poorly received. Then the trailer for the first movie had the "ugly Sonic" that was so bad people were able to bully the studio into delaying the movie and fixing the design. The first movie's success helped to give Sonic Team more leverage to delay and polish Sonic Frontiers, and that went on to be the most successful game in a long while, and here we are now with his reputation finally being repaired. It hasn't always been easy being a Sonic fan but he's always managed to endure.
Elize was certainly a bizarre choice to add to a Sonic game, and she's right up there with the most useless of princesses in any game. She gets kidnapped 6 times throughout the story, but the player will have to watch the same kidnappings on top of those because the same cutscenes replay throughout each separate character's story. I love the part of the game where the player can choose to opt-out of the weird romance, yet even if you take that option, the game doesn't care and continues as if you picked the opposite choice. Also yes, Sonic 06 IS that bad. The game misses the mark for me in being fun bad because of the sheer amount of loading screens. It brings the game to a screeching halt and they're best shown in speedruns, where the run is 90% loading screen broken up with 2 seconds of gameplay before new loading screens. It's also the cherry on top that the game erases itself from the timeline. At the end of the story, none of the story has happened. Considering how bad the game is, I've never seen anyone who hasn't cheered on that ending. Honestly though, the more interesting character in the game to me is Blaze the Cat, because there's a fun fan theory that she's a figment of another character's imagination, since nobody else interacts with or acknowledges her.
On the other hand, the soundtrack was beloved from then till today, the level design was pretty solid(Helps that Project 06 fixes all the bugs that hampered it's functioning), and the storytelling specifically from Shadow and Silver has become more and more beloved by fans over the years (Ace Card Gaming has my favorite analysis about them and how they define the appeal of Shadow and Silver)
Sonic 06 was supposed to be a different game. Then Sega told Sonic team to make more Sonic. Then when the Wii specs came out they split the already over worked team in half to make a game for that console and released Sonic 06 on a hard deadline. The game never had a chance
There was a prototype for a physics based game focusing on Telekinesis shown at events. That eventually became Sonic 2006. (And yes, the development of Secret Rings plus the crunch Sega imposed onto Sonic Team is what led to the game's state.) I'm glad the team behind 06 is still with Sonic Team and are directly contributing to fixing what Sonic became in the 2010s (Heck, Shun Nakamura, the main man behind 06 was the main man for Frontiers and all the postlaunch updates that improved the game came directly from him interacting with the community on social media. This really warms my heart)
Also it seems as though a large part of the coding and assest work were lost near the tail end of production as the earlier builds are more stable and complete than the final game.
I've spent so long in and out of the Sonic fandom that it's so refreshing to find someone who knew absolutely nothing about Sonic 06 before this video. Cultural osmosis is not as powerful as I thought.
big the cat is a big, fat cat. he lives alone in the forest with his best friend Froggy, who is a normal, non sapient frog. Big's gameplay involves fishing. Big is also portrayed as a bit stupid. this is all we know about him.
If you want to know what Sonic as a character is about and why he and he's stories are so loved, you should react to ""The Soul of Sonic Stories" by ALtheBoi. It is by far one of the best Sonic videos made and well worth your time. Great video btw.
The Sonic Franchise was unimously hated during the 2010s, being a Sonic Fan back then was pain Only Silver is from the future, Shadow existed 50 years before Sonic
Princess Elise being the first sonic lore related thing you learn about is not what I was expecting lmao. I don't think Elise is THAT bad but she is a controversial character. Hell Sonic 06 is controversial in of itself.
The vast majority of Sonic 06 unplayability comes from the excessive loading times. Lythero proved on stream by completing the story mode of sonic adventure 2 in between cutscenes and load screens of 06. Theirs a mode for totally legally obtain pc copies for preservation purposes that fixes the load times. Making the game both enjoyable when a level ending bug happens but also tolerable.
4:10 To give some context (from what I know, so some stuff may be inaccurate) this was Sega's first game after deciding to stop making their own gaming system's like how Nintendo still does, so they were probably unfamiliar with making a game for different hardware. Then I believe two of the guys who were really important for making Sonic, left the company, then the development team was split to work on another game, and finally the game had a hard set release for the holidays. It is not surprising it came out as one of the worse games EVER made. 11:20 Funny thing is that this would be Eggman's second attempt at controlling time. He did it a third time later.
Sega left the console market not long after the release of SA2. They became a third-party company in 2001, starting with Sonic Advance for the GBA and the ports SA2 Battle and SADX for the GameCube. Then there was a big era of Sonic games from 2001 to 2005 on the PS2/Xbox/GameCube generation with releases like Heroes, Advance 2 and 3, Battle, Shadow 05. 06 was released in 2006, no surprise there, years later, for the at that time new generation of consoles of the Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii, alongside games like Riders for the previous consoles and Rush for DS.
Please continue this Sonic marathon! My main recommendations would be Ace Card Gaming(In-depth character analysis), TheMentok(Mini-Retrospectives) HSquid Reviews(Compilations of bite-sized In-depth explanations of multiple lore elements, especially from the comics) and GamesCage(The Sonic hype man himself! His work is full-blown variety and the best way to get into Sonic, thanks to his unending excitement and happiness). I also would love if you checked out the adaptations of the IDW comics by the channel Adrenaline Dubs, and the award-winning Project Shadow fanfilm by JoaoFilipeSantiago is an beautiful story great for newcomers just like the official Paramount movies!
I'm pretty sure the last scene is from Snapcube's fandub of the game. You might want to watch it, but it can get a bit weird, with a lot of swearing. Maybe not the best thing for a stream, but maybe.
17:14 Yeah but like he says later, the idea was good, the execution they did not so much since it's spread out between multiple scenes and horrible gameplay. To give a atrocious example, someone was able to beat another Sonic game in the loading screens during Sonic 06, because this game just has that many loading screens that last a long time.
You *_absolutely_* need to do a reaction to one of the many, many reviews of _Ride to Hell: Retribution 1%_ . Seriously, just pick one, or at least one which goes through the game in detail. Either Just Bad Games, DLJadow, The Completionist, or ProJared would be good choices, IMO, but if you want something more long form, try Gaming Grumps or Super Best Friends Play.
The Sonic Team stated that Sonic Frontiers was their last chance to create a successful big-budget Sonic game. They heavily implied that if it had been a total flop, the already under-equipped and understaffed Sonic Team would have faced further downsizing, meaning they would never get another chance to work on a big-budget Sonic game. So, while the Sonic brand as a whole was never at risk of disappearing, the game series portion of the franchise was only one failure away from coming to an end.
Silver the hedgehog is my favorite character in the Sonic franchise because he's just another Future Trunks from Dragon Ball Z which is also my favorite character.
Ok. Suggestion. You want to know how bad this game is. There is a streamer who uploads with fun edits and animations and he did the whole Sonic 06 game with friends. His channel is called Lythero and the video in particular is called “The Silver Campaign”
This video was good but it’s more of a Sonic 06 review/retrospective , as it doesn’t really get into any of the lore aside from (loosely) the plot of the game itself
I'd rather your first exposure to 06 be someone who considers 06 to be a good game, like Premy or some others, but at least this video isn't fully negative. I quite admire it, despite immensely disagreeing. As a furry, I have absolutely no problem with human x anthro relationships, and as Who Framed Roger Rabbit isn't controversial, I can't imagine why anyone would. Plus as I enjoy the romance between Anakin and Padme in Star Wars episode II, sand and all, I don't believe that there is such thing as a badly written romance, unless it's from SW episode V, as Solo makes me want to vomit there.
this video is probably not a good introduction to Sonic, it assumes you already know the lore and specifically this game's story, it's meant more as a way to make people reflect on a game they wouldn't usually give the time of day to.
Dude was told to watch Sonic lore and he choosed the hardest and most most weird point to start from, i don't know if i should be impress or disapointed. Sonic 06 is consider one of the worst Games ever, mostly due to it needing like 2 more years of development before being ready to come out, but in terms of lore it is still as bad as every Main Game from 2010 to 2023, mostly because in 06 they at least had writters trying to make a good story. Sadly after the sonic 06 failure Sega asumed the massive failure wasn't because the game was unfinish but because of having a serious story and more characters than sonic anw too few jokes, ao they remove all of those elements in almost every following game until very recently Unrelated and uncall for: i didn't saw the eggman death battle, but in every battle whit Sonic characters before it they have done a horrendus job of powerscaling the characters of the franchise
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Ok so Shadow isn't from the future, but he IS from the future relative to the point in time where Elise was a child, but he's not from the future to the present, he's actually from 50 years in the past based on a prophecy that an old science man saw and was like "what if I could cure a terminal illness and it looked like a hedgehog?"
I leave you with exactly this much context to clarify your confusion. Hope this helps! You picked a WILD lore entry point!
Better he starts with Elise than someone like Shadow since she's relevant only this game and that one time Big mentions her in Shadow Gens and nowhere else
Thank you for the clarification. I now understand everything. :D
@@TheLegitWeebs Glad to know you've confirmed you're now a sonic aficionado.
"Who is Big the Cat"
The Big the Cat lore runs so deep, but most of it is what the fandom has done with him.
Honestly considering the absurd situations Big the Cat got involved in because he always end up looking for Froggy across the games, it isn't entirely the fandom's fault.
honestly? watching the "archie big the cat" video would be kinda peak.
I mean, Big the Cat managed to get inside the core of the Space Colony Ark's Eclipse Cannon while it was on its collision course with the planet. Just... HOW did he get there???
Shadow is not from the future, he just time traveled with Silver (who is from the future) at that time. Shadow’s lore is some of the most intriguing bits of Sonic lore, definitely recommend watching some stuff about it
Hey, I edited this video! Glad you enjoyed, it was definitely very entertaining to watch someone who doesn't know much about Sonic dive headfirst into the craziest part of its lore, and it was especially cool to see someone's first take on Sonic 06's story/design without knowing the discourse/infamy surrounding it!
This certainly was a starting point for my Sonic lore deep dive lol. The editing for this video is peak. Massive props to you and the team for making such banger videos!
3:22 For clarification, Sonic 06 was not the first of its kind. It was meant to be a follow up to the Sonic Adventure games which, while flawed, mostly functioned consistently and as intended. Many of the mechanics in this game had already been done previously but comparatively this game had more levels, more playstyles, more types of interactable vehicles, different hardware to run off of, different writers, attention split between it and another game, deadlines that were set too soon, etc., etc. There was a whole thing where Sega formed a conglomerate with Sammy Corporation while the game was being made. It had good bones but circumstance took a bat and shattered them.
Edit: Also the games that followed were rail action games, 2d handhelds, and an RPG. None of this games DNA made it into the immediate following products. In fact fans blamed the size of the cast for its failing causing Sonic Team to avoid including playables other than sonic for over a decade. They're starting to be more open to it again though with things like Sonic Mania, Sonic and Shadow generations, and The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog having other characters not only be playable but even be the protagonists of their stories.
Although Sonic 06 didn't destroy Sonic financially, I don't think it's too hyperbolic to say it killed Sonic's reputation as a respected game series for a long time. But funnily enough, nowadays I actually see a lot more appreciation for its ambition and untapped potential. After Sonic 06 was ridiculed by critics and fans alike, Sega pivoted HARD. I feel like they used everything about Sonic 06 as an example of what NOT to do anymore, and this is what led to, what I like to call, the "Ironic Sonic Era." Rather than push forward with ambitious but risky ideas, they'd instead look to the past for inspiration on what people originally loved about Sonic. This also meant much simpler and more comedic storytelling almost to the level of the 90s' cartoon. They also took a very "self-aware" approach to Sonic's branding. They'd poke fun at themselves a lot and embrace the memes that were meant to mock Sonic. They were trying to turn "laughing at you" to "laughing with you."
I feel like this worked for a while, but Sonic fans eventually grew sick of this approach. They felt like Sega lacked confidence in their own creation and were playing it too safely. Sega was trying so hard not to repeat Sonic 06's mistakes, but this would result in games that some fans felt were too simple, had character dialogue that was too childish, were pandering to nostalgia, and generally felt like there was no weight to them. Thus, the unthinkable happened. People started to actually show Sonic 06 and other critically panned Sonic games of that era more appreciation. Not because they were suddenly good games now, but because they had ambition and drive that Sonic fans missed.
Speaking personally, I don't think the "Ironic Sonic Era" was all bad. I do enjoy the classic aesthetic, some of the self-aware humor was funny, and we did get Sonic Generations out of it. But I feel like Sonic is in a much better state today. The branding has shown more confidence, they aren't afraid to tell a deeper story, they aren't ashamed of their early 2000s past, and we've been getting some real good games lately.
Another video you can watch is “ leitmotifs in Sonic” because you can’t talk about Sonic without talking about the music
I second this
There's a bunch of REALLY good videos from AlTheBoi about Sonic the first I'd recommend watching is the latest called "The Soul Of Sonic Stories" it doesn't explain specifics about the lore but it does explain the style and particularly the character of Sonic himself
HSquid Reviews' vids are neat too but the tiktok compilation vids probably isnt for newbies
Its a really good video.
I always imagined Elses' story would have been better if she was presented more like Anita from The DarkStalkers OVA. Not allowing herself to show any emotions from the start, but slowly opening up over the story. Allowing herself to get angry at Eggman, and eventually smile and laugh around Sonic.
Then, after slowly letting down her guard throughout the game and allowing herself to explore all the caged up emotions she's had bottled up since she was a child, Mephiles takes the opportunity to strike down Sonic when Elies is most vulnerable and she is unable to hold back the tears.
Sonic 06 was rushed out the door by Sega to meet a Christmas deadline. The game wasn't anywhere near to being finished. As others have said, you should definitely watch AllTheBoi's most recent video about Sonic storytelling
Kind of crazy to me that you start with Princess Elise, one of the least important characters in Sonic lore, outside of her own game.
maybe its cool to get her out of the way first
I was led here by the comments xD. Honestly, I do agree that it might be for the best to just get it out the way first.
Im gonna need more sonic content, its my favorite series
So the funny thing here is that Sonic '06 actually sold pretty well; when people talk about it almost killing the franchise, it's moreso in regards to the series' reputation. Hot off the heels of the Adventure games and Heroes, we had the super edgy Shadow the Hedgehog game where he drove motorcycles, swore and used a gun, and that got a lot of mockery. A lot of fans that grew up on the Genesis trilogy (and CD) were kind of aging out of the series and against the greater focus on story and all the new characters...and then comes Sonic '06. A game that had even MORE new characters, probably the most mangled story of the series up until that point AND it was a rushed, buggy mess, and it has haunted the series for almost 20 years.
Pretty much right after '06 the narrative changed to "Sonic was never good" or "Sonic had a rough transition to 3D," and the series became a laughing stock. It didn't help that some games (Secret Rings, Black Night and Unleashed) had elements that people also disliked. Colors had better reception and Generations was also very successful and well regarded...and then almost immediately afterward the series stumbled again with Sonic Lost World, Sonic Boom and Sonic Forces being poorly received. Then the trailer for the first movie had the "ugly Sonic" that was so bad people were able to bully the studio into delaying the movie and fixing the design. The first movie's success helped to give Sonic Team more leverage to delay and polish Sonic Frontiers, and that went on to be the most successful game in a long while, and here we are now with his reputation finally being repaired. It hasn't always been easy being a Sonic fan but he's always managed to endure.
"who dat? - big the cat" by digi valentine. if you are curious, that one's a good start.
You really need to watch Snapcube's sonic fandubs, they just play the cutscenes of various games and improv the dialogue themselves, extremely funny
They have nothing to do with learning about lore tho
Elize was certainly a bizarre choice to add to a Sonic game, and she's right up there with the most useless of princesses in any game. She gets kidnapped 6 times throughout the story, but the player will have to watch the same kidnappings on top of those because the same cutscenes replay throughout each separate character's story.
I love the part of the game where the player can choose to opt-out of the weird romance, yet even if you take that option, the game doesn't care and continues as if you picked the opposite choice.
Also yes, Sonic 06 IS that bad. The game misses the mark for me in being fun bad because of the sheer amount of loading screens. It brings the game to a screeching halt and they're best shown in speedruns, where the run is 90% loading screen broken up with 2 seconds of gameplay before new loading screens.
It's also the cherry on top that the game erases itself from the timeline. At the end of the story, none of the story has happened. Considering how bad the game is, I've never seen anyone who hasn't cheered on that ending.
Honestly though, the more interesting character in the game to me is Blaze the Cat, because there's a fun fan theory that she's a figment of another character's imagination, since nobody else interacts with or acknowledges her.
Because her arc is chopped up the way it is she's functionally a McGuffin who loses all her agency and the e story only exists if told chronology.
On the other hand, the soundtrack was beloved from then till today, the level design was pretty solid(Helps that Project 06 fixes all the bugs that hampered it's functioning), and the storytelling specifically from Shadow and Silver has become more and more beloved by fans over the years
(Ace Card Gaming has my favorite analysis about them and how they define the appeal of Shadow and Silver)
Sonic 06 was supposed to be a different game. Then Sega told Sonic team to make more Sonic. Then when the Wii specs came out they split the already over worked team in half to make a game for that console and released Sonic 06 on a hard deadline. The game never had a chance
A classic in the game industry q.q
@@zeanamush That hard deadline was Sonic's 15th anniversary iirc.
There was a prototype for a physics based game focusing on Telekinesis shown at events. That eventually became Sonic 2006.
(And yes, the development of Secret Rings plus the crunch Sega imposed onto Sonic Team is what led to the game's state.)
I'm glad the team behind 06 is still with Sonic Team and are directly contributing to fixing what Sonic became in the 2010s
(Heck, Shun Nakamura, the main man behind 06 was the main man for Frontiers and all the postlaunch updates that improved the game came directly from him interacting with the community on social media. This really warms my heart)
@@TheLegitWeebs Also the game's lead quit Sega partway through production. Naturally, the dev team received no extra time to accommodate for it :)
Also it seems as though a large part of the coding and assest work were lost near the tail end of production as the earlier builds are more stable and complete than the final game.
I've spent so long in and out of the Sonic fandom that it's so refreshing to find someone who knew absolutely nothing about Sonic 06 before this video. Cultural osmosis is not as powerful as I thought.
yeah this is gonna be a fun ride I can tell
big the cat is a big, fat cat. he lives alone in the forest with his best friend Froggy, who is a normal, non sapient frog. Big's gameplay involves fishing. Big is also portrayed as a bit stupid.
this is all we know about him.
perfect
If you want to know what Sonic as a character is about and why he and he's stories are so loved, you should react to ""The Soul of Sonic Stories" by ALtheBoi.
It is by far one of the best Sonic videos made and well worth your time.
Great video btw.
You picked the absolute WORST game to start learning about Sonic.
This is peak comedy
The Sonic Franchise was unimously hated during the 2010s, being a Sonic Fan back then was pain
Only Silver is from the future, Shadow existed 50 years before Sonic
So technically, Shadow is the past, Sonic is the present and Silver is the future.
The SSS of all time. Nice.
Princess Elise being the first sonic lore related thing you learn about is not what I was expecting lmao.
I don't think Elise is THAT bad but she is a controversial character. Hell Sonic 06 is controversial in of itself.
10:13 Talk about "queen never cry"
The vast majority of Sonic 06 unplayability comes from the excessive loading times. Lythero proved on stream by completing the story mode of sonic adventure 2 in between cutscenes and load screens of 06. Theirs a mode for totally legally obtain pc copies for preservation purposes that fixes the load times. Making the game both enjoyable when a level ending bug happens but also tolerable.
I am excited for him to get to designing for's videos about Donkey Kong. The best is the one about Bluster Kong, but there is plenty to choose from
4:10 To give some context (from what I know, so some stuff may be inaccurate) this was Sega's first game after deciding to stop making their own gaming system's like how Nintendo still does, so they were probably unfamiliar with making a game for different hardware. Then I believe two of the guys who were really important for making Sonic, left the company, then the development team was split to work on another game, and finally the game had a hard set release for the holidays. It is not surprising it came out as one of the worse games EVER made.
11:20 Funny thing is that this would be Eggman's second attempt at controlling time. He did it a third time later.
Sega left the console market not long after the release of SA2. They became a third-party company in 2001, starting with Sonic Advance for the GBA and the ports SA2 Battle and SADX for the GameCube.
Then there was a big era of Sonic games from 2001 to 2005 on the PS2/Xbox/GameCube generation with releases like Heroes, Advance 2 and 3, Battle, Shadow 05.
06 was released in 2006, no surprise there, years later, for the at that time new generation of consoles of the Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii, alongside games like Riders for the previous consoles and Rush for DS.
Really enjoying your perspective abd growing interest. I gotta sub fast .
Please continue this Sonic marathon!
My main recommendations would be Ace Card Gaming(In-depth character analysis), TheMentok(Mini-Retrospectives) HSquid Reviews(Compilations of bite-sized In-depth explanations of multiple lore elements, especially from the comics) and GamesCage(The Sonic hype man himself! His work is full-blown variety and the best way to get into Sonic, thanks to his unending excitement and happiness).
I also would love if you checked out the adaptations of the IDW comics by the channel Adrenaline Dubs, and the award-winning Project Shadow fanfilm by JoaoFilipeSantiago is an beautiful story great for newcomers just like the official Paramount movies!
There’s not a lot of Sonic Lore videos, other than AltheBoi’s and TheMentok’s videos
Ironically It is easier to find lore on the various comics than the mainline canon.
@ the comics are a different canon
@@TomboyMikayla Yes, that's what I meant.
Chaomix has a lot of videos on both lore and general series and community knowledge
@@TomboyMikayla Well IDW is canon to the games.
Still waiting on more news about that Fan remake of 06' cause it looks Great so far
I'm pretty sure the last scene is from Snapcube's fandub of the game. You might want to watch it, but it can get a bit weird, with a lot of swearing. Maybe not the best thing for a stream, but maybe.
Lythero's playthrough is one of the good things that came from this game.
Funny how you can beat the entire Hero Story of Sonic Adventure 2 in the time it takes between loading screens
17:14 Yeah but like he says later, the idea was good, the execution they did not so much since it's spread out between multiple scenes and horrible gameplay. To give a atrocious example, someone was able to beat another Sonic game in the loading screens during Sonic 06, because this game just has that many loading screens that last a long time.
You *_absolutely_* need to do a reaction to one of the many, many reviews of _Ride to Hell: Retribution 1%_ . Seriously, just pick one, or at least one which goes through the game in detail. Either Just Bad Games, DLJadow, The Completionist, or ProJared would be good choices, IMO, but if you want something more long form, try Gaming Grumps or Super Best Friends Play.
You *have* to watch Shadow lore.
The franchise was never at risk of being dying. But it's rep did take a big hit
The Sonic Team stated that Sonic Frontiers was their last chance to create a successful big-budget Sonic game. They heavily implied that if it had been a total flop, the already under-equipped and understaffed Sonic Team would have faced further downsizing, meaning they would never get another chance to work on a big-budget Sonic game. So, while the Sonic brand as a whole was never at risk of disappearing, the game series portion of the franchise was only one failure away from coming to an end.
Silver the hedgehog is my favorite character in the Sonic franchise because he's just another Future Trunks from Dragon Ball Z which is also my favorite character.
Pleas do something on the idw sonic comics bc there actually great
You want to learn about Sonic, you picked the worst video for it.
Big question why did you start with sonic o6
Ok. Suggestion. You want to know how bad this game is. There is a streamer who uploads with fun edits and animations and he did the whole Sonic 06 game with friends. His channel is called Lythero and the video in particular is called “The Silver Campaign”
This video was good but it’s more of a Sonic 06 review/retrospective , as it doesn’t really get into any of the lore aside from (loosely) the plot of the game itself
I'd rather your first exposure to 06 be someone who considers 06 to be a good game, like Premy or some others, but at least this video isn't fully negative. I quite admire it, despite immensely disagreeing.
As a furry, I have absolutely no problem with human x anthro relationships, and as Who Framed Roger Rabbit isn't controversial, I can't imagine why anyone would. Plus as I enjoy the romance between Anakin and Padme in Star Wars episode II, sand and all, I don't believe that there is such thing as a badly written romance, unless it's from SW episode V, as Solo makes me want to vomit there.
Do not react to The Leaderboard's Sonic timeline video as it skips some stuff.
this video is probably not a good introduction to Sonic, it assumes you already know the lore and specifically this game's story, it's meant more as a way to make people reflect on a game they wouldn't usually give the time of day to.
31:56 What's that? Look at your first youtube video? If you say so...
No, please don't q.q
Dude was told to watch Sonic lore and he choosed the hardest and most most weird point to start from, i don't know if i should be impress or disapointed.
Sonic 06 is consider one of the worst Games ever, mostly due to it needing like 2 more years of development before being ready to come out, but in terms of lore it is still as bad as every Main Game from 2010 to 2023, mostly because in 06 they at least had writters trying to make a good story. Sadly after the sonic 06 failure Sega asumed the massive failure wasn't because the game was unfinish but because of having a serious story and more characters than sonic anw too few jokes, ao they remove all of those elements in almost every following game until very recently
Unrelated and uncall for: i didn't saw the eggman death battle, but in every battle whit Sonic characters before it they have done a horrendus job of powerscaling the characters of the franchise