It works! Well at least at the one MagicDock/Tap To Pay supercharger near me. Had zero trouble driving up with a stock Bolt, pressing 2 seconds to release the MagicDock, and tapping to pay. Best charging experience anywhere. But it's only the one station...
It should have been soon six months ago ... I don't miss Tesla charger access much, but it would be nice. I still have drawers full of USB cables and dongles for devices with four different USB plugs. USB-C seems to be the last, but we'll see ... I already have two adapters allowing me to use my somewhat portable EVSE with three different 240 volt plugs, and I still don't have all the plugs covered. I didn't realize that 240 volt plugs weren't standardized until I bought an EV. I assumed that my dryer outlet was it. Live and learn. So my 2020 Bolt EV may require a software update, and I'll need to take the car to a Chevy dealer for the update, and I'll presumably pay a "diagnostic fee" for the service as I did when my battery was replaced even though the replacement was covered under warranty. That'll presumably increase the cost of my adapter from a couple hundred dollars to nearly five hundred. If so, I won't be in a hurry to get an adapter, but I'll do it eventually because it'll add a little convenience to road trips and help the resale value. I still love my Bolt, and standardizing on NACS seems a good idea, but ... There's always a but ...
Kyle just did a video with ChargePoint who has rightfully taken a similar approach to the Magicdock. This was the ONLY intelligent approach. One adapter at each station instead of one for every car. Kyle fully agreed with the ChargePoint approach.
Exactly. This is the best approach and probably more cost affective for Tesla and the other companies, especially if the other companies chipped in on the retrofit of existing chargers. And we know some money would have come from the infrastructure law as well. We wouldn't even be talking about a connector today. We'd then be focused on these companies getting their software right to work with the Tesla network.
IMO this has all been poorly rolled out. Realistically what Tesla should have done was say...OK, now that we know all of the super chargers non Tesla's will be using, let's turn those sites into Magic Dock sites. To me this would eliminate rolling out free adapters to to OEM to then roll out to customers. Just retrofit existing V3 sites and then plan forward with upcoming V4 sites to include the Magic Dock. Then at that point other car companies could continue to work with Tesla to streamline app access and not worry about the physical connector as much. This might have been easily paid for with money coming from the infrastructure law as well as a contribution of funds from the vehicle manufacturers themselves. Couple these ideas with NOT firing most of your EV charging staff and I feel we would be in a better spot with more and more car companies having access today.
Tesla inability or unwillingness to make sufficient adapters for just two manufacturers to date appears to have pushed GM to obtain adapters from third parties. At least if GM certifies the adapters from Lectron that should ensure those adapters are reasonably safe and will help sales of third party adapters as a result.
@@marcol869 Spoken like a true Muskovite. Elon is no longer concerned with the Tesla mission so why should you be? Makes perfect sense once you understand the context.
@@JeanPierreWhite Elon Musk was never about creating a Tesla monopoly on EV's. He is on record saying that he wants other EV makers to succeed. That doesn't mean Tesla has to be a nanny and make all the adapters that other EV makers need. They may have done so with Ford and Rivian to help out, but realistically, are they going to be making all the adapters for the dozen or so EV makers which will need them over the next few years? Given that adapters are a short term solution to the problem of transitioning everybody to NACS, it's better to just let third parties take up the slack as long as they iron out any bugs and can make adapters at an acceptable standard.
@@aftonline While Elon may have said something several years ago, he's not the same person anymore. Many are disillusioned with him because his actions do not align with Tesla's mission anymore. In addition falling behind on adapters may not beb deliberate, it may just be lack of staff due to the firings.
Hi from Canada, Mach e owner tried Tesla got it to work once and then never again. I had been loaned an adaptor from a friend in the states. He wanted me to visit with only Tesla around his area. So don’t know if Tesla has stopped the use of it or if it’s my car because we haven’t been supplied the adaptor yet in Canada.
Ordered my ford adapter the first day it was available, just got a message from ford saying it will now arrive in October and too bad!?! I’m not personally in a situation that requires me to use it regularly, but I could definitely see why people would want a 3rd party adapter to take advantage of what we were promised as a incentive to purchased the vehicle in the first place, I call BS.
Great info! I have a 2019 Bolt. It is nice to know that it will be able to use Tesla SuperChargers after it gets the update. The SC network will be awesome for this car. I also have a Silverado EV RST. I am not sure how useful the SC network will be for that vehicle as the V3 will not charge as fast as other brand 350kW chargers. But, it is always good to have more options on a road trip, even if they are slow. I feel like we have been "on the edge of our seats" since April waiting for the announcement that GM can use Tesla SuperChargers.
@@BremboT Francie said that she heard that the 2019 Bolt, which is not an Ultium vehicle, would need a dealer software update to work with SuperChargers. I am optimistic that will be the case.
A DC fast charging adapter is a "dumb" device. It is basically just wires straight through the unit. It connects pins on one side to differently sized and spaced pins on the other side. It contains temperature sensors (if it is a high quality unit) that can tell the charger the adpater is getting too hot, so the charger can reduce the current. But It cannot inform the charger anything about the vehicle or the vehicle's battery. GM's blather about protecting the vehicles battery by using only an approved sensor is either ignorance (the more charitable assumption) or avarice - they want to sell you an adapter where they get a cut.
@@brycenesbitt7201 Yes, Tesla uses the same high current pins for both DC and AC charging, but that doesn't make the adapter any more complicated. On a CCS1 to NACS adapter the DC pins on the CCS side are routed to the high current pins on the NACS side, and the AC high current pins on the CCS side are simply not connected to anything. But there aren't any elctronics in the adapter. CCS -> Chademo is very complicated and requires communication translation in the adapter, and so does Chademo -> NACS. But CCS1 to NACS in either direction is just straight through wire connections with no trnaslation of communication protocols in the adapter.
Alert: In anticipation of follow up questions once GM does have supercharger access: Let's hunt GM down for this answer ahead of time: ??? Is all models of the Chevy BOLT from 2017 to 2022 going to qualify or only certain years or even worst only certain trim's like the Premiere TRIMS before 2022?
Mexico??? Currently it looks like non-Teslas cannot charge at Tesla Supercharges in Mexico. I believe GM and Tesla have a joint operation to increase by 1,000 the locations in Mexico with Superchargers. How and when might this change in Mexico? At this time there is only 1 location in the state of Sonora (where I live in the winter) with DC Fast Chargers - a Tesla supercharger with 4 chargers in Santa Ana, Sonora.
Not "soon" enough, I recommend and support not purchasing a GM EV if you will need to DCFC at all. The CCS network is terrible and thinly spread. I drove my Blazer EV RS RWD on vacation which needed a few DCFC stops. I ran into dealerships with broken chargers, or they shut them off on the weekends and several others that were broken or offline. The country needs to mandate all dealerships that have DCFC chargers to leave them on 24/7 and remove equipment or fix them within 24-48 hrs. As an owner of a 23MYLR and Blazer EV I can give a great comparison of them including DCFC. GM could of hit a homerun with the Blazer EV if it had a frunk, faster DCFC and access to the Supercharger network. I would only purchase either the RS RWD as the AWD LT/RS is a dog and doesn't have enough range, The SS fixes power but not range and only the RWD RS can go 320-350 highway miles at 70mph(confirmed by my vacation travels) which is an advantage over the MYLR23 we own. Lastly the DCFC charging curve is terrible with the Ultium batteries and thats with the 190KW charging speed of the RWD RS Blazer EV. GM needs to hire real auto enthusiast/owners to help them get it right.
I know this episode is about GM, but Mercedes promised compatibility this summer, so where is it? Undoubtedly, Elon firing charger department has delayed needed software for each brand.
So no new info about when GM will get access and what exactly will the process be. I am getting tired of this vague info. Tesla and/or GM needs to release detail info. Also, all non Tesla EVs can us Magic Dock. It shouldn't be a difficult leap to let Non Teslas use the V3 SuC. Just let us use the Tesla app. We don't care about having to use the OEM's app/software...
Musk fired the team responsible for setting up the supercharger access deals with OEM's. I don't think either Tesla nor GM are in control of this situation anymore. They are both scrambling to figure it out. It's a total mess.
@@JeanPierreWhite Yes it is widely known that team got fired. My point is that Magic Dock sites work NOW. Tesla V3 SuC should be "Bring your own adapter Magic Docks" and work without any updates from OEMs. However, OEMs are requiring us owners to use their APP to start the charging so they can get the data and $$$. That, with the firings, is making this take longer. - Source Tom from Out of Spec.
@@JeanPierreWhite Not true at all. The team that got fired was U.S. site acquisition team which is backed out 5 years awaiting utilities. Ford was the first with access to the supercharger network and it took them over 3 years.
@@GrillarGaming In a joint press release between GM and Tesla the following statement was released on June 8th 2023. "Rebecca Tinucci, Tesla's Senior Director of Charging Infrastructure, added, "Our mission is to accelerate the world's transition to sustainable energy. Giving every EV owner access to ubiquitous and reliable charging is a cornerstone of that mission. We're excited to work with other industry leaders like General Motors to provide access to the Tesla Supercharger Network via the North American Charging Standard."" If you recall Rebecca and he team weer fired by Musk. Her team negotiated the deal with the OEM's and were also responsible for sourcing equipment to make Supercharging possible which includes the materials necessary to make the adapters at Giga Buffalo. If you want to read the press release for yourself search for "General Motors Doubles Down on Commitment to a Unified Charging Standard and Expands Charging Access to Tesla Supercharger Network". It's on GM Investor Relations page.
@@JeanPierreWhite The key word is "promise." GM stated that they were planning to start integrating SAE J3400 starting in 2025, but they made no specific promises about where, when, or how. We just know that they are transitioning to SAE J3400 native plugs, and they are likely planning to start with the 2026 MY vehicles.
@@newscoulomb3705 I invite you to search for the following News Release from GM "General Motors Doubles Down on Commitment to a Unified Charging Standard and Expands Charging Access to Tesla Supercharger Network" In that News Release GM state specifically "GM customers will be able to access 12,000 Tesla Superchargers and growing beginning in early 2024" This is no longer "Early 2024" In the same press release GM stated "the collaboration will expand access to charging for GM EV drivers at 12,000 Tesla Superchargers, and growing, throughout North America" So yeah they did say when and where.
It would have been so much easier for everyone if the USA had just adopted CCS2…………….. all Tesla cars and chargers in Europe are equipped with CCS2 ports and plugs just like every other brand of EV and modern PHEV
Francie, I'm not sure whether you're aware, but GMC EV owners already have access to the Superchargers. Unfortunately, Tesla has been super slow to produce the adapters, and they still haven't updated their app. As a result, the GMC EV drivers have had to "spoof" their profiles in the Tesla app to gain access, but they *DO* have access right now.
@@Nebula1701 The reports I saw were of people spoofing the R1S in the Tesla app, but I didn't hear about any restrictions. My impression was, if it's open to Rivian, it's open to GMC EV owners with the Tesla app and account. If you're experiencing inconsistencies, that could just be an issue with the Supercharger Network's reliability with non-Tesla EVs. I've seen similar problems reported by a number of Ford EV owners. Apparently, some have even experienced Superchargers where half the stalls would work with their Ford EV, but the other half wouldn't.
@@newscoulomb3705we know we would get good info from you Eric . Nice to see you on the coast to coast podcast last night. Too bad Steve couldn’t meet you in person. I hope to meet him in oh sometime.
Both Tom Mallogheny and Kyle Conner have reported that the access for GM vehicles was only for a day or two to enable GM to perform real world testing. That access was turned off as quickly as it was turned on.
@@JeanPierreWhite I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing. Yes, people observed GM EVs using Superchargers known for being testing sites for new access, but GM also sent a communication directly to GMC EV owners letting them know that they could now access the Superchargers. I didn't hear about any retractions sent to those customers.
300 amps and 95 degrees F.. any unused cable on a sunny 85 degree F day will be sitting there at well over 100 degrees. Get an engineer to help you out.
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I will laugh my ass off when reports start coming out that Tesla owners are complaining about the legions of slow charging Chevy Bolts clogging up Tesla superchargers. I would pay good money to see a supercharging location completely full with slow charging Bolts while a number of Tesla's are queuing up to charge. That is comedy gold. Of course, we have to wait for Tesla to enable GM vehicles on the supercharging network, but when and if it does, I hope Bolt owners just piss off Tesla owners.
This is not correct. Most automakers and public charging providers are actively transitioning to SAE J3400. I used a public J3400 plug at a ChargePoint station not too long ago. However, it's important to realize that having a native J3400 plug doesn't automatically grant you access to the Superchargers. Only Tesla gets to blacklist and whitelist Supercharger access.
I think its the other way around. OEM's have committed to joining the TEsla supercharger network and TEsla are holding them back by producing adapters in limited quantities.
@@JeanPierreWhite I think you're missing the distinction. There's a new standard that everyone is adopting (SAE J3400), and then there is also accessing the Supercharger Network. Those two things are not mutually inclusive. You don't need a SAE J3400 socket to use the Superchargers, and having an SAE J3400 socket doesn't assure access to the Superchargers.
@@newscoulomb3705 In order for a CCS vehicle to access the supercharger network it will need a specific adapter as well as be authorized by Tesla. Limited supply of that adapter has slowed the access to the supercharger network for Ford and Rivian drivers. Ford and Rivian are authorized access but many are still waiting for their adapters. Ford have had to send out two communications delaying the shipment of adapters. I'm fully aware that J3400 is just a connector. Peter Rawlinson is famous for pointing that out. I'm fully aware that access to the supercharger network requires authorization from Tesla. In order for GM vehicles to charge at a V3 supercharger (sans Magic Dock) takes two things. 1. Authorization from Tesla. 2. A certified adapter. Currently GM owners have neither of those. The adapters are what is holding things up hence why GM has an agreement with a second supplier to overcome the Tesla bottleneck.
It works! Well at least at the one MagicDock/Tap To Pay supercharger near me. Had zero trouble driving up with a stock Bolt, pressing 2 seconds to release the MagicDock, and tapping to pay. Best charging experience anywhere. But it's only the one station...
Just used the magic doc yesterday (available by pressing the button for 2 sec); have a Tesla acct and it was so easy!
It should have been soon six months ago ... I don't miss Tesla charger access much, but it would be nice.
I still have drawers full of USB cables and dongles for devices with four different USB plugs. USB-C seems to be the last, but we'll see ...
I already have two adapters allowing me to use my somewhat portable EVSE with three different 240 volt plugs, and I still don't have all the plugs covered. I didn't realize that 240 volt plugs weren't standardized until I bought an EV. I assumed that my dryer outlet was it. Live and learn.
So my 2020 Bolt EV may require a software update, and I'll need to take the car to a Chevy dealer for the update, and I'll presumably pay a "diagnostic fee" for the service as I did when my battery was replaced even though the replacement was covered under warranty. That'll presumably increase the cost of my adapter from a couple hundred dollars to nearly five hundred. If so, I won't be in a hurry to get an adapter, but I'll do it eventually because it'll add a little convenience to road trips and help the resale value. I still love my Bolt, and standardizing on NACS seems a good idea, but ... There's always a but ...
Kyle just did a video with ChargePoint who has rightfully taken a similar approach to the Magicdock. This was the ONLY intelligent approach. One adapter at each station instead of one for every car. Kyle fully agreed with the ChargePoint approach.
Exactly. This is the best approach and probably more cost affective for Tesla and the other companies, especially if the other companies chipped in on the retrofit of existing chargers. And we know some money would have come from the infrastructure law as well. We wouldn't even be talking about a connector today. We'd then be focused on these companies getting their software right to work with the Tesla network.
Thank you dear.
Probably know but GM cars can now get the adapter and use the superchargers. I have a bolt and the map shows what superchargers I could use now.
Famous last words…. “Soon” means anytime between now and whenever the earth gets swallowed up by our sun. 🙄🙄🙄
Several RUclips channels have been road tripping with the lectron adapter with no issues
IMO this has all been poorly rolled out. Realistically what Tesla should have done was say...OK, now that we know all of the super chargers non Tesla's will be using, let's turn those sites into Magic Dock sites. To me this would eliminate rolling out free adapters to to OEM to then roll out to customers. Just retrofit existing V3 sites and then plan forward with upcoming V4 sites to include the Magic Dock. Then at that point other car companies could continue to work with Tesla to streamline app access and not worry about the physical connector as much.
This might have been easily paid for with money coming from the infrastructure law as well as a contribution of funds from the vehicle manufacturers themselves. Couple these ideas with NOT firing most of your EV charging staff and I feel we would be in a better spot with more and more car companies having access today.
Tesla inability or unwillingness to make sufficient adapters for just two manufacturers to date appears to have pushed GM to obtain adapters from third parties. At least if GM certifies the adapters from Lectron that should ensure those adapters are reasonably safe and will help sales of third party adapters as a result.
@@marcol869 Spoken like a true Muskovite.
Elon is no longer concerned with the Tesla mission so why should you be? Makes perfect sense once you understand the context.
I am using the Lectron aftermarket adatper and its working great
@@JeanPierreWhite Elon Musk was never about creating a Tesla monopoly on EV's. He is on record saying that he wants other EV makers to succeed. That doesn't mean Tesla has to be a nanny and make all the adapters that other EV makers need. They may have done so with Ford and Rivian to help out, but realistically, are they going to be making all the adapters for the dozen or so EV makers which will need them over the next few years? Given that adapters are a short term solution to the problem of transitioning everybody to NACS, it's better to just let third parties take up the slack as long as they iron out any bugs and can make adapters at an acceptable standard.
@@aftonline While Elon may have said something several years ago, he's not the same person anymore. Many are disillusioned with him because his actions do not align with Tesla's mission anymore.
In addition falling behind on adapters may not beb deliberate, it may just be lack of staff due to the firings.
AlwaYs a nice day when it starts with Francie!!
Hi from Canada, Mach e owner tried Tesla got it to work once and then never again. I had been loaned an adaptor from a friend in the states. He wanted me to visit with only Tesla around his area. So don’t know if Tesla has stopped the use of it or if it’s my car because we haven’t been supplied the adaptor yet in Canada.
The lack of official publications detailing authorizations of various car brands to the TSuC Network is annoying.
Ordered my ford adapter the first day it was available, just got a message from ford saying it will now arrive in October and too bad!?! I’m not personally in a situation that requires me to use it regularly, but I could definitely see why people would want a 3rd party adapter to take advantage of what we were promised as a incentive to purchased the vehicle in the first place, I call BS.
Great info! I have a 2019 Bolt. It is nice to know that it will be able to use Tesla SuperChargers after it gets the update. The SC network will be awesome for this car. I also have a Silverado EV RST. I am not sure how useful the SC network will be for that vehicle as the V3 will not charge as fast as other brand 350kW chargers. But, it is always good to have more options on a road trip, even if they are slow. I feel like we have been "on the edge of our seats" since April waiting for the announcement that GM can use Tesla SuperChargers.
Might only be Ultium vehicles.
@@BremboT Francie said that she heard that the 2019 Bolt, which is not an Ultium vehicle, would need a dealer software update to work with SuperChargers. I am optimistic that will be the case.
A DC fast charging adapter is a "dumb" device. It is basically just wires straight through the unit. It connects pins on one side to differently sized and spaced pins on the other side. It contains temperature sensors (if it is a high quality unit) that can tell the charger the adpater is getting too hot, so the charger can reduce the current. But It cannot inform the charger anything about the vehicle or the vehicle's battery. GM's blather about protecting the vehicles battery by using only an approved sensor is either ignorance (the more charitable assumption) or avarice - they want to sell you an adapter where they get a cut.
There's more to it for Tesla, because of wire sharing.
@@brycenesbitt7201 Yes, Tesla uses the same high current pins for both DC and AC charging, but that doesn't make the adapter any more complicated. On a CCS1 to NACS adapter the DC pins on the CCS side are routed to the high current pins on the NACS side, and the AC high current pins on the CCS side are simply not connected to anything.
But there aren't any elctronics in the adapter. CCS -> Chademo is very complicated and requires communication translation in the adapter, and so does Chademo -> NACS. But CCS1 to NACS in either direction is just straight through wire connections with no trnaslation of communication protocols in the adapter.
Elon firing the entire team responsible for coordinating SC access was such a great idea
~Sarcasm
He runs his company like his BFF runs casinos 😅
Alert: In anticipation of follow up questions once GM does have supercharger access: Let's hunt GM down for this answer ahead of time: ??? Is all models of the Chevy BOLT from
2017 to 2022 going to qualify or only certain years or even worst only certain trim's like the Premiere TRIMS before 2022?
Mexico??? Currently it looks like non-Teslas cannot charge at Tesla Supercharges in Mexico. I believe GM and Tesla have a joint operation to increase by 1,000 the locations in Mexico with Superchargers.
How and when might this change in Mexico? At this time there is only 1 location in the state of Sonora (where I live in the winter) with DC Fast Chargers - a Tesla supercharger with 4 chargers in Santa Ana, Sonora.
Not "soon" enough, I recommend and support not purchasing a GM EV if you will need to DCFC at all. The CCS network is terrible and thinly spread. I drove my Blazer EV RS RWD on vacation which needed a few DCFC stops. I ran into dealerships with broken chargers, or they shut them off on the weekends and several others that were broken or offline. The country needs to mandate all dealerships that have DCFC chargers to leave them on 24/7 and remove equipment or fix them within 24-48 hrs. As an owner of a 23MYLR and Blazer EV I can give a great comparison of them including DCFC. GM could of hit a homerun with the Blazer EV if it had a frunk, faster DCFC and access to the Supercharger network. I would only purchase either the RS RWD as the AWD LT/RS is a dog and doesn't have enough range, The SS fixes power but not range and only the RWD RS can go 320-350 highway miles at 70mph(confirmed by my vacation travels) which is an advantage over the MYLR23 we own. Lastly the DCFC charging curve is terrible with the Ultium batteries and thats with the 190KW charging speed of the RWD RS Blazer EV. GM needs to hire real auto enthusiast/owners to help them get it right.
So you recommend not using Tesla because almost no one has the adapters from Tesla.
Rivian/Ford should test the third party adapters and sc---w Tesla.
Cheers Francie
I know this episode is about GM, but Mercedes promised compatibility this summer, so where is it? Undoubtedly, Elon firing charger department has delayed needed software for each brand.
So no new info about when GM will get access and what exactly will the process be. I am getting tired of this vague info. Tesla and/or GM needs to release detail info. Also, all non Tesla EVs can us Magic Dock. It shouldn't be a difficult leap to let Non Teslas use the V3 SuC. Just let us use the Tesla app. We don't care about having to use the OEM's app/software...
Musk fired the team responsible for setting up the supercharger access deals with OEM's. I don't think either Tesla nor GM are in control of this situation anymore. They are both scrambling to figure it out. It's a total mess.
@@JeanPierreWhite Yes it is widely known that team got fired. My point is that Magic Dock sites work NOW. Tesla V3 SuC should be "Bring your own adapter Magic Docks" and work without any updates from OEMs. However, OEMs are requiring us owners to use their APP to start the charging so they can get the data and $$$. That, with the firings, is making this take longer. - Source Tom from Out of Spec.
@@JeanPierreWhite Not true at all. The team that got fired was U.S. site acquisition team which is backed out 5 years awaiting utilities. Ford was the first with access to the supercharger network and it took them over 3 years.
@@GrillarGaming In a joint press release between GM and Tesla the following statement was released on June 8th 2023.
"Rebecca Tinucci, Tesla's Senior Director of Charging Infrastructure, added, "Our mission is to accelerate the world's transition to sustainable energy. Giving every EV owner access to ubiquitous and reliable charging is a cornerstone of that mission. We're excited to work with other industry leaders like General Motors to provide access to the Tesla Supercharger Network via the North American Charging Standard.""
If you recall Rebecca and he team weer fired by Musk. Her team negotiated the deal with the OEM's and were also responsible for sourcing equipment to make Supercharging possible which includes the materials necessary to make the adapters at Giga Buffalo.
If you want to read the press release for yourself search for "General Motors Doubles Down on Commitment to a Unified Charging Standard and Expands Charging Access to Tesla Supercharger Network". It's on GM Investor Relations page.
@@gregpochet4812 There are every few Magic Doc sites in the US. A couple dozen sites out of thousands. The nearest one to me is three states away.
Good afternoon Francie
Please, stop with the recall from electron, they've fixed the problem
Second hand market needs to know also
Off topic: great top Francie! Super cute!
This is so stupid. “Unapproved” but now supplied by Tesla which we all know is perfect in QC…..NOT!!!!
Didn’t Mary promise j34 ports in their cars by 25? Is this still going to happen or has it become a Musk promise
No, GM didn't make any promises, but they did state that they would start integrating SAE J3400 in their vehicles starting in 2024.
@@newscoulomb3705 So did they make the promise or didn't' they? Your post says both.
@@JeanPierreWhite The key word is "promise." GM stated that they were planning to start integrating SAE J3400 starting in 2025, but they made no specific promises about where, when, or how. We just know that they are transitioning to SAE J3400 native plugs, and they are likely planning to start with the 2026 MY vehicles.
I say a Musk Promise
@@newscoulomb3705 I invite you to search for the following News Release from GM "General Motors Doubles Down on Commitment to a Unified Charging Standard and Expands Charging Access to Tesla Supercharger Network"
In that News Release GM state specifically "GM customers will be able to access 12,000 Tesla Superchargers and growing beginning in early 2024"
This is no longer "Early 2024"
In the same press release GM stated "the collaboration will expand access to charging for GM EV drivers at 12,000 Tesla Superchargers, and growing, throughout North America"
So yeah they did say when and where.
It would have been so much easier for everyone if the USA had just adopted CCS2…………….. all Tesla cars and chargers in Europe are equipped with CCS2 ports and plugs just like every other brand of EV and modern PHEV
It's probably to do something with Tesla loosing it's supercharger team😊❤.
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I’ve been using the Tesla supercharger with my Chevy Silverado ev with no problems
On a regional Supercharger or on a Magic Dock?
Elon and the Tesla team are loving the free cash 🙂
How is it free cash? Are Tesla getting the electricity for free now? Are they able to make the adapters at no cost?
You single?
NOT holding my breath that it will happen "soon" -given E'loon's OCD ADHD NPD proclivities.
Francie, I'm not sure whether you're aware, but GMC EV owners already have access to the Superchargers. Unfortunately, Tesla has been super slow to produce the adapters, and they still haven't updated their app. As a result, the GMC EV drivers have had to "spoof" their profiles in the Tesla app to gain access, but they *DO* have access right now.
Only on some sites in some states. Access comes on and off it’s not full access yet.
@@Nebula1701 The reports I saw were of people spoofing the R1S in the Tesla app, but I didn't hear about any restrictions. My impression was, if it's open to Rivian, it's open to GMC EV owners with the Tesla app and account.
If you're experiencing inconsistencies, that could just be an issue with the Supercharger Network's reliability with non-Tesla EVs. I've seen similar problems reported by a number of Ford EV owners. Apparently, some have even experienced Superchargers where half the stalls would work with their Ford EV, but the other half wouldn't.
@@newscoulomb3705we know we would get good info from you Eric . Nice to see you on the coast to coast podcast last night. Too bad Steve couldn’t meet you in person. I hope to meet him in oh sometime.
Both Tom Mallogheny and Kyle Conner have reported that the access for GM vehicles was only for a day or two to enable GM to perform real world testing. That access was turned off as quickly as it was turned on.
@@JeanPierreWhite I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing. Yes, people observed GM EVs using Superchargers known for being testing sites for new access, but GM also sent a communication directly to GMC EV owners letting them know that they could now access the Superchargers. I didn't hear about any retractions sent to those customers.
300 amps and 95 degrees F.. any unused cable on a sunny 85 degree F day will be sitting there at well over 100 degrees. Get an engineer to help you out.
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I will laugh my ass off when reports start coming out that Tesla owners are complaining about the legions of slow charging Chevy Bolts clogging up Tesla superchargers. I would pay good money to see a supercharging location completely full with slow charging Bolts while a number of Tesla's are queuing up to charge. That is comedy gold. Of course, we have to wait for Tesla to enable GM vehicles on the supercharging network, but when and if it does, I hope Bolt owners just piss off Tesla owners.
The site will only be half full. Even more funny!
here it is 8-2024 and car manufactures are still dragging their feet to jump on NACS, how stupid of them for not doing so
This is not correct. Most automakers and public charging providers are actively transitioning to SAE J3400. I used a public J3400 plug at a ChargePoint station not too long ago. However, it's important to realize that having a native J3400 plug doesn't automatically grant you access to the Superchargers. Only Tesla gets to blacklist and whitelist Supercharger access.
I think its the other way around. OEM's have committed to joining the TEsla supercharger network and TEsla are holding them back by producing adapters in limited quantities.
@@JeanPierreWhite I think you're missing the distinction. There's a new standard that everyone is adopting (SAE J3400), and then there is also accessing the Supercharger Network. Those two things are not mutually inclusive. You don't need a SAE J3400 socket to use the Superchargers, and having an SAE J3400 socket doesn't assure access to the Superchargers.
@@newscoulomb3705 In order for a CCS vehicle to access the supercharger network it will need a specific adapter as well as be authorized by Tesla. Limited supply of that adapter has slowed the access to the supercharger network for Ford and Rivian drivers. Ford and Rivian are authorized access but many are still waiting for their adapters. Ford have had to send out two communications delaying the shipment of adapters.
I'm fully aware that J3400 is just a connector. Peter Rawlinson is famous for pointing that out.
I'm fully aware that access to the supercharger network requires authorization from Tesla.
In order for GM vehicles to charge at a V3 supercharger (sans Magic Dock) takes two things. 1. Authorization from Tesla. 2. A certified adapter.
Currently GM owners have neither of those.
The adapters are what is holding things up hence why GM has an agreement with a second supplier to overcome the Tesla bottleneck.
The name of this podcast needs to be changed to “Level 3 Charging Issues Only”.
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Stop looking up political stuff and the ads wont target you
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