Seeing all the responses warms my heart and I’m so glad many people are feeling seen with this video! So glad to have collabed with Apollo on this special subject matter! My part of the collab will come out soon! Happy Pride Month, everyone!
TY so much you cleared up so much for my head. My wife was the one who help me understand my for lack of a better word problems understanding myself. I had never had fellings for women in the ways my friends did, and when I asked about it to one of my friends about it he showed me some NSFW and ask me what i thought about it. looking back now "I like the art style" might have been an answer he wasn't expecting by the look on his face. Unfortunatly my religous parrents may have found my refrence art i had in my room and i got into a bit of trouble. I have never found the need to date or found most women undatable because of there personalities. So until i meet my wife one day and fell in love with her, (her name is steph by the way) she is bi sexual and with her sister told me that I am Asexual and it ok. that was a huge weight of my shoulders at the time. My wife also brought back my spark for drawing that i had as a kid and soon ill be doing a animated youtube channel with her on how to train dogs. Thankyou @stephguzdoodles for my second thing that has lifted a huge weight off my minded. The stigma of NSFW art has always made me ashamed for liking the artwork and this video help me today a lot.
and when there's a person besides you and assume things: "you need god." / "I didn't know you're into this sort of things" "NO NO NO it's not what it's look like-" "yea yea 😏"
@@tunesann honestly i think the best thing ya could do in that situation is not even bat an eye and just start talking about the quality of the piece, that would probably send the message way better than trying to deny it and just makin yerself seem sus in the process lmao
@@SUTAZZZwhenever i draw spicy art the anatomy is way better than with my normal art and I don't even use a reference OR a sketch unlike my normal art💀
I'm Aegosexual, which is under the ace umbrella. I like drawing spicy stuff because it's appealing in theory to me, just never in actual practice. It's nice to fantasize about it when it comes to my OCs or fave characters, just never for myself
Heya, Ace (repulsed) Lesbian here I always thought I was broken for not liking spicy stuff, I've been consuming more spicy art though, it's just so pretty y'know? A lot goes into art and I feel a lot better about myself after this video, thank you ❤️
Nah you're not broken, that's just how you are. And while I'm not ace, due to trauma I actually have trouble with doing spicy stuff with people but am cool with seeing it in media
I find spicy art like normal art, it has variation, I prefer some art styles more than others, and some have good subject matter, while others don’t. appreciating Art is always about finding what you think looks nice, art pieces that tell a story and tell it well.
I'm abrosexual. That means in my case, sometimes I'm easily repulsed so that watching a kissing scene causes me physical discomfort equal to someone scratching a chalkboard, or a dentist's drill. sometimes not. sometimes I'm pretty much ace sometimes the absolute opposite of it. I would be BI, if I wouldn't be repulsed by certain parts of anatomy Before I knew that I'm abro, I believed I was a very moody hypocryte. So I always understand when someones sexuality is hard to understand. Don't understand mine either. Turning 40 this year, I gave up trying.
Aroace here. I feel like wether I'm spicy-positive or spicy-repulsed depends on just HOW spicy the content is. For example, mildly spicy things like flirting or suggestive comments/jokes I'm usually fine with. It's also easier for me when the content is written only, or if it's drawn or animated rather than realistic. But when a visual work starts getting TOO spicy or TOO realistic, that's when I nope tf out, and that includes actually doing *the thing* IRL. As for romantic content, I'm mostly just indifferent, unless it's like that one ship that does it really well, LOL.
I feel the opposite to you in a whacky sense. Like I would very much prefer really spicy works without the realism and the milder ones feel boring to me. With romantic content, I’m happy to see two friends ship their OCs but I’m uncomfortable with my OCs in ships and I mostly go out of my way to try not to consume shipping works actively.
I'm asexual (sex repulsed) but experience very strong aesthetic attraction towards others. I personally don't like to engage with or create nsfw art of sexual acts but I do like seeing/ drawing artistic nudity and some suggestive artworks. I appreciate people I find pretty quite a bit despise finding the idea of having sex/ seeing people preform sexual acts pretty gross fnndjdjd
Lol that's basically the gist, this was more just a way to deconstruct and explain asexuality/aromanticism since most people’s first assumption is that most aces are just prudes
i'm aegosexual (and unlabeled rom) so i have a bit of an odd relationship with "spice" as a concept. i don't want to have it, but it is appealing to me as a form of expression in fiction and as a fantasy. i have a weird disconnect to theese fantasies/stories/expressions though, so while it is enticing, it's only enticing when it's a character participating in it for purpose of a story or message. if it were a real person (especially myself) doing it for no other reason that the act itself, it no longer is appealing/enticing.
I‘m aroace and I’m absolutely excited that you two decided to make a video about it. I absolutely used to be 100% against any nsfw (partially due to how I was raised), but ever since I interacted with people who are spicy positive and even kink positive, I’ve come to embrace that part of me that loves looking at it and drawing it myself. I’ve actually just started doing research in aroace or just aro or just ace artists that absolutely love drawing spicy kinky stuff bc it’s an artistic expression of itself and can be sooo beautiful to just look at. Even aroace people can be kinky (even if they do not want to do it physically) and express their own fantasies through their art. Which is another reason why I absolutely love art. It’s so diverse, creative and colourful, just like humans in real life.
I appreciate going this deep into the subject, but remember kids, the correct answer to when someone asks you this is "What are you, a cop?". Don't let anyone ever put you in a box you don't wanna be.
I find it funny how much my views on my own sexuality have changed over the past few years going from Straight to AroAce to Ace to Aro to Bi. Just goes to show that sexuality is not set in stone even for any given individual so people shouldn't be afraid to experiment with their own sexuality and if they turn out to be gay, lesbian, bi, pan, ace, aro, aroace, etc. that's great and if they're straight that's great too. 🎉🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️Happy Pride Month to everyone!🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈🎉
When you said people can be "Aesthetic attracted" it kinda does make sense for me. I'm sexually attracted to the physical appearance of certain types of women and even men, but I never felt the need to actually do the act to a person. I'm heteroromantic but I've always felt a bit more on the ace side of things when it comes to sexuality, even with the slight sexual attraction. This video definitely helps me understand a little bit more about that so thank you so much for this informative video! Also, yeah when I was in my early 20s some people including friends were like "You just gotta have the act once to be sure if it's for you" or "You should do it at least once", to which anyone reading this and have told that to people, please don't. If someone is just not into it, they're not into it. Don't pressure them especially since those who have had done the act should know it's not a walk in the park. It can be a bit much on the body and on the emotional health and mental health. Not anyone can do that and many people will simply know what they can and cannot handle without even needing to do the act. Telling them to try it or pressuring them is unhealthy, disrespecting their views/rights and can cause more damage than good.
As an aroace and artist who has, admittively drawn NSFW art in the past, this was such a genuinely fun and informative video. Great job you two!! Also hoooly hell I AM SO the aroace type at---13:44. I feel conflicted since I moved into wanting to try to draw human suggestive art/NSFW art but I *cannot* for the life of me look up real-life NSFW. Which is ironic since I would need references to do human-related. So, I do feel like I am somewhat tolerant, I am interested in the concept of romance + intimacy for fictional sense. It's a must if you ship two characters or have your own characters who are in a relationship----but as for myself, I am in no way interested in either a romantic or intimate relationship. This video helped me understand a bit more of myself, and realized there's much more people out there like me who feel the same way- it definitely helps. Happy Pride month everyone, sneding love to my fellow aroace artists
I’m aroace and pan. People don’t get that I can simp over characters of ALL genders and not want to be in a romantic relationship or like the idea of… sexual acts at ALL. It’s like “how can you be pan when you don’t like people or relationships? Liar” like I’m not allowed to understand that I like all genders 😟
As a Pan angled AroAce, i agree! Just to clarify some stuff for others in the comments, Pan could be their tertiary attraction (or qpa, or any other one, since there are alot), or they could be on the aroace spectrum and pan! :D It's not necessarily exclusive, attraction is a weird thing- Even if that's not the case, there's no harm in saying that they're aroace and pan
@Leni( ꈍᴗꈍ) Agreed, no harm done! And something like a tertiary attraction would make sense. Something about "being {insert attraction type} attracted to no one" while simultaneously "being {insert attraction type} to everyone" is confusing to my brain. Give me some time to process this, and I'm sure it'll sort itself out.
A reminder to others in the comments, asexuality to allosexuality is itself a spectrum. For instance, there's demisexuals, fraysexuals, graysexuals--all still ace but not 100% ace, and the same can be said for the romantic side. So yes, someone can be both asexual and pansexual under certain conditions, and the same for aromantic and panromantic under certain conditions. I like to think of sexuality as a 3 dimensional spectrum. There's straight to bi to gay, and there's allosexual to graysexual to asexual.
As someone who identifies as panromantic asexual, I’m so happy to find a video discussing asexuality and aromanticism! It took me forever to realize that I’m ace because I didn’t learn what it was until I was seventeen!
i have a friend that i didnt know was ace and when I found out I thought I had to stop or be careful when talking abt spicy things when we've almost always talked abt spicy stuff but I soon realized that the ace part of them doesn't affect and has never affected their interest and engagement w/ our conversations since the spicy stuff was oc and fictional character things I'm also sobbing frothing at the mouth bcuz there are some VERY SPECIFIC THINGS here that I find connect and resonate with ME and I'm abt to be confused for a whole as week ty for helping me feel more connected to my identity and reassured that my friendships wont crumble beneath me >w
I'm a sex neutral AroAce that can appreciate beauty in art. I have always told people that I'm a "great in theory, no thank you in practice" individual. spicy art or videos are fine and I'm an in theory 'hopeless romantic' cause I think it's adorable, but I do not feel romantic myself so people being too romantic toward me makes me feel awkward and almost... bored? like "bro I'm not feeling the feelings in this moment, so you're just moving really slow and really ... close" That said, I've drawn my fair share of experimental stuff and I'm in the process of writing a satirical spicy book :D I'm glad to see the aroace representation!!
One of my fave aro/ace reps is a character from "My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU" (Mild Spoilers) She's shown as a super fangirl Fujoshi (really into gay men) - but when a classmate shows interest in her, she confides in the protag that she doesn't see herself having feelings for anyone. I think the best part of her arc is that the resolution *isn't* her being "cured" - it's that they convince the guy to give up and she goes about her life.
That mental block description is very accurate, I can’t quite imagine or think up spicy things in my head very well and therefore drawing them would be even harder. But this topic is interesting to me. I don’t know what aroace label describes me properly, I feel aroace is fine, but it’s the fact I engage in romantic and sexual things that adds the confusion, there isn’t much representation for that and it’s rarely talked about. I don’t see people like that but I’m fine with the situation to some degree. It’s a sense of comfortability that lets me move past straight up disgust and anxiety. NSFW art and content is a way to process these experiences by yourself, and that’s important to many. More than anything me not seeing people this way is the reason I explore it, because I don’t quite understand it and want to dissect it and put it on display, it’s why I write about it and use what I call “gay s3x as a plot device” (I don’t know if RUclips attacks comments). It’s a way to explore a topic from different angles and consider different perspectives that u don’t share
I'm demi aroace, and for the most part, I'm spicy positive. I like seeing spicy art. It's very rare when I don't want to see spicy artwork, but that depends on the day, to be honest. I've been interested in drawing my OC with a favorite fictional character in an intimate setting, too. :3 This was a very nice collab! 💜
Gay guy here. It is somewhat interesting to me for a few reasons. Grew up in a conservative household in the 90s, so discussing spicy in person tends to be somewhat difficult to me because I was conditioned to think of it as "impolite". People have thought I was ace before because of this. It was difficult to come to terms with my sexuality partly because I find straight spicy repulsive. I'm fine with the romance itself but the act is actively something that causes me discomfort. A big part of what draws me to spicy art is the emotional aspect. I find that this also extends to my, questionably written, fanfics where frequently the act itself takes up half or less of even ones that are supposed to have it as their purpose.
Demisexual here, I find spicy times appealing in media, especially drawn or animated, it's the thought of having it myself which makes me uncomfortable. I value the emotional connection and trust the most, and since I don't have such a person right now, there's no one I can imagine without going into fight-or-flight mode. But, *fictional characters* are a different thing. Having a character I love, with my sona (who doesn't quite look like me) is the perfect loophole for my brain to not worry about trust or consequences. Plus, when I was younger, I used to look at spicy artwork *casually,* not even for self-spicy-times, just to admire specific types of characters, different art styles, appreciate the skill of the artists, and such.
Heyyyy ! , I’m not ACE at all, but i think that NSFW artwork is just how some people draw characters from a game or anime as it’s part of their design, if you look at it from a V tuber POV , that’s how they want to design their model and who am I to yuck someone’s yum about it , but ffs please be aware of the cannonical age of the character before you draw, overall i personally believe that it is just another bump in the art road , also I’m still offering my assistance for mint and friends, thank you Fiona for covering this topic ❤
I’m demisexual nonbinary and being on the asexual journey has had its troubles. In high school my friends all called me Peter Pan because they just assumed I was childish and naive and wanted to “preserve my innocence” when I just had no attraction period. I was even aromantic when I was younger. And it’s not like I was grossed out. I was just confused, uninformed, and didn’t care to look into those sort of things. I felt nothing to nsfw things. Now as a married adult, I view nsfw art as an art in itself. I’ve tried myself to draw nsfw but it feels like I’m walking into the room while my characters are doing it (though writing and thinking the scene is easier.). But it is nice to appreciate nsfw art others do because it’s something I’m not skilled in. It’s spicy and I can view the story being told of the scene/art/etc… Thank you again for making videos like this. It’s nice to look into these things and see what other aroace people think within the video and comments.
This video is very insightful, and I always love learning more about the ace and aro spectrums. though I do not identify with either ace or aro people, I do still find it hard creating genuine romantic feelings for others. I’m quick to get infatuated, but it quickly dies down and then I feel nothing. Just something I was pondering about while watching this video don’t know if it means anything in terms of my identity but it was nonetheless fun to question and ponder my relationship to Romance and sex while watching this video. I hope you have a safe and happy pride month.
Perhaps look into frayromantic. Feeling attraction until a bond is formed. So, the opposite of demiromantic, feeling attraction only after a bond is formed. There's also lithoromantic, feeling attraction until it's reciprocated. So, the opposite of reciproromantic, feeling attraction only if it's reciprocated. :)
I’ll be honest I can’t stand smut. I’m ace (nsfw repulsed) myself. Even reading nsfw makes me uncomfortable. I’m also 95% sure I’m either grey romantic or Demi romantic but just because I’m ace and grey (or Demi) romantic doesn’t mean I enjoy a little bit of flirting in books. I’m 16. I was told all my life that don’t worry, You’ll get over it! I still am not. I’m completely against sexual activities. I can’t stand the idea of it alone let alone doing it. But as an artist, I love drawing moments right before two characters in love fall in love. I have a picture of ocs playing twister and two characters getting two characters on to almost on top of each other. It’s just a funny picture to me. It doesn’t mean I want that to happen to me. It’s just fun to draw.
as an aroace artist, i personally love drawing the human form, especially women. there are nothing sexual about my sketches and i'm also a firm believer that the human body is not inherently sexual, so i have no problem with nakedness. i do kinda cringe when i see art depicting naked people in a suggestive way, but thanks to the filters we have on social media i can avoid them when i'm not in the mood. i sometimes get horny, but i'm sure that's just because of my hormones and being aroused is a normal thing we shouldn't be ashamed about. i do appreciate you two starting this discussion, because this is a topic worth discussing and we aspecs often get ignored.
Same man, Americans (and plenty of other much smaller countries too) are just being weird about nudity and then accuse the places that aren't of being "overly sexual". A human body is a human body, sexual acts are sexual, context matters.
The light background tapping at around 3:03-3:05 freaked me out!! Because I was wearing headphones in my EMPTY house at midnight! I thought it was knocking at my door! 😂😅
I've found that I enjoy seeing the emotions associated with intimate acts on the characters in the art rather than the actual act itself, which just leads me to draw those kinda works as "cropped out"/implied (I feel like I should note that these come in the form of doodles, never actual finished pieces). You gotta have a lot of trust in someone to engage in that kind of intimacy and its surprisingly wholesome if you think about it like that. The same applies to writing out spice, I never seem to be able to get myself to describe what is actually happening between the characters, only what they're thinking/feeling throughout
My first hypothesis is that some Ace people not feeling physical attractive feelings might want to be aroused out of curiosity because they don't know why they aren't, similar to how when someone who is numb, either through medication or depression, can try to feel something by at first trying to move around their numb body parts before trying to create more and more extreme stimuli that can lead to self-harm if and only if they don't know what they're doing and why they are feeling the way that they feel. Kind of like a "I can't feel anything, so let's see how far I can push myself until I feel something" type of logic. Just a hypothesis for right now before I dive into the rest of the video. And now the whole "repulsed" and "not repulsed" subcategories throw a small wrench into this hypothesis, along with the fact that sometimes it's just a professional job. See, another new possibility and a another thing to make sure we need to know 4:11 - 5:54 - 7:20 - 8:30 - 9:22 Exactly the point I needed to hear!
Thank you so much. If I had seen this video as a kid/teen, it would have saved me a lot of heartache. I'm some sort of spicy-repulsed/demisexual obsessive lithromantic who was raised Christian in a very... unsexual family. Being surrounded by horny teens in high school was torture and then going home and being horny in my own ways in private made me feel like a freak. When my sister came out as ace, I knew that wasn't me because we experience sexual and romantic attraction differently. I was a bit acephobic. I finally did some digging and it turns out we're both asexual, just in different ways. My experience interacting with spicy content started as a combination of Christian horror and morbid curiosity. Then it switched to rabid consumption (almost addiction) when I discovered yaoi. I've toyed with the idea of writing spice-including content and have started craving explicitly nonsexual romance where the asexuality of the main characters is addressed. Accepting exactly what I do and don't want for myself in terms of physical intimacy (none thanks) and romantic relationships (none for now) has both made my relationship with spicy content more confusing and more honest. I'm currently trying to read less smut in an attempt to understand when I actually want something vs when I'm giving in to impulse.
Lovely video. Always nice to see something like this. The art discussion put a spin on the the topic that I'd never heard before. Nice touch! I don't draw, but I might be able to relate to what you said about how your brain kind of shut off when you tried drawing NSFW. Once, just by accident, I found something NSFW. At first, the woman's face was the only thing that registered, and the rest of it was just a blur in my mind. I had to stare at that picture for about 5 seconds before my brain resolved the image in my mind. Once I figured out what I was looking at... let's just say I had a very negative reaction. The silver-lining here is that any time I'm having one of those moments when I'm doubting if I'm actually ace after all, I can think back to that moment and feel reassured that I am DEFINITELY a spicy-repulsed ace.
im aroace and i personally am kinda indifferent to stuff like spicy art even though I dont draw it. i know it exists but id rather draw things i find much more fun like backgrounds or plants
I'm an aro romance writer (funnily enough fell into it first writing smut and then wondering how my characters might be outside of... those times. Lo and behold, they are very cute) I now adore fictional romance, it is on track to becoming my second fav genre after realizing I'm actually into it, I just avoided it for so long because I knew I'm not into irl so... why would I look at it in fiction I thought. (And also not really being into straight romance, maybe that is why none of those I passively picked up worked for me.) Suffice to say, very spicy positive now. I did ponder this for a while, though never to the point where I'd actually seek out the topic - after doing the song and dance with being trans and then lesbian, I didn't particularly care about what society might deem normal at this point - but this vid comes as the pride month validation I didn't know I needed.
Similarly to some people under the Ace umbrella with NSFW artwork(as long as it doesn't go into malicious territory), I'm Aromantic, but I do enjoy media a good bit with romance in it. I know stories with romantic relationships aren't for everyone and that's fine because not everyone, Aromantic or not, feel the same way about that. Also, a Happy Pride Month to everyone here.
I don't experience attraction and desire (whether it be romantic,, or sexual) , but I do have some sexual interests that I like to indulge in through spicy works. I say interests because they don't quite feel like fantasies. They're sexual stuff I'm drawn to, but I don't have that 'this is so hot' kind of reaction or interest in them. Plus they're some writers and comic artists that make engaging stories that are fun to read.
I’m ace-flux (for me I mostly just fluctuate asexual and demi-sexual, and on rare occasions allosexual) and my comfort level with nsfw stuff is usually shifting.
Im aroace(? Am currently questioning my sexuality but until/if I find a better label that’s what im sticking with), and im on the part of the spectrum where it’s like “makes suggestive jokes, dirty jokes, etc., but wld never actually do the act irl (and is fine with suggestive material, and is more indifferent to it then anything)”. So basically- I like making dirty jokes, bc I find them funny. That’s jst my humour. Suggestive fan art and works don’t bother me, and I’ve read some- *very* smutty things before and the most that had happened is me getting a lil giggly, or surprised bc the work includes something I hadn’t known of before (usually of the kinky variety, iykwim). Honestly, after discovering more about the ace spectrom, im starting to think I might just be *on* the spectrum in general- as in, I know im *something* on there, just not specifically *what* - but idk if that’s just a fresh bout of imposter syndrome making me doubt myself or if it’s a genuine “i am currently questioning my sexuality” kinda thing lmao. ANYGAYS imma stop typing before I go on a whole rant, lmfao, but thanks for coming to my tedtalk anyway LMAO- have a good day/night heh
I'm on the ace spectrum, and personally I don't really care much about doing spicy with others, unless its somebody I have a close enough bond with. On the other hand, I'm very enthusiastic about my ocs being spicy. I like drawing anatomy, as well as having my characters being intimate after forming bonds. Lingerie is also pretty and fun to draw!
I cannot possibly emphasize how much I love seeing some space made for aromantic folk during pride month. Because we are often left out, I actually feel more alone and isolated sexuality wise during pride month than at any other time of the year. So thank for much for using your platform to make some place for all of us in the community
Aroace here (Tysm for inculdeing us) I dont mind nsfw work as a consept I dont draw sexual art but understanding it as a consept in intersting Seeing people irl doing those things isnt the best vide for me nor looking at nsfw But if someone dose want to draw it power to them i have also gone though books, fanfictons in a slight nsfw undertone and be alright with it I also dont mind drawing art that others might see as unmodest or s-xu@al art i stilll dont enjoy nsfw art,action or books at all and when i can i do avoid it i can draw charectars in a romanic fromat (holding hands a kiss ect) it can go from fun to just another drawing depends (Sorry if the wording sucks im not that great at english
I oddly felt really seen cuz for me I don't really like smut and other things like that and Im on the ace spectrum also nice to see someone who is ace talk about this!
I’m the type of AroAce that gets uncomfortable with sexual stuff like movies with sexual stuff in it like for example I love Twilight but I can’t watch Breaking Dawn part one because that one scene made little me very uncomfortable and it still does. Also I must add that every time someone points out a “dirty” joke in a Disney movie I never understand what they’re talking about, not sure if that’s because my mind is as innocent as a baby or that I’m AroAce but I thought it might help people understand how my mind works… I’m gonna add this one last thing, I’m somewhat really weary when one of my friends post and art in discord with a spoiler cause this one time I looked at one and I felt so weird and I closed discord to get away from it pretty much… I feel weird talking about this stuff right now so I’m just gonna leave this here and never come back to this comment section lol.
As an AroAce artist who draws short comedy stories, spicy art is just a form of shock humor - in fact, it always has been. Back in 5th grade, people would call me names for drawing that type of stuff. I didn't understand back then that they saw spicy art as more than just a taboo subject. As I said, to me, it's nothing more than shock humor. It goes against conservative cultural expectations, and that's what makes it so funny. Edit: I might have to add that real NSFW art does make me very uncomfortable. So when I draw "spicy characters", it's always just them in stereotypical anime beach episode swimsuits. And for jokes where I do draw them entirely naked, they're still heavily censored (and I never draw what's beneath the censorship bars) So yeah, it's just very mild spicy stuff that's only there for the typical anime trope.
That honestly sounds like a really funny concept. While not being Ace myself, I usually get uncomfortable around sexual content that is made to just turn people on. But this...... this just sounds like chaotic fun and I would love to see it.
Personally as somebody who is not asexual this has been very fascinating to me and has answered quite a lot of questions I've had about asexual people. Not all of them. But quite a few of them. Though given how diverse is asexuality is I feel like many of my questions will continue to go on answered until I got at least a variety of opinions and experienced it from people. Because there will not be a single answer for said questions. I do also have a question that's kind of sort of half answered. And that's whether or not asexual people can even feel horny / eroticism. And I don't mean that in any sort of disrespectful wear anything but genuine curiosity. Cuz I think one of the misconceptions, assuming it's a misconception that is, that people myself have of asexual people as whether or not you guys can even feel horny or eroticism at all. And I say slash and or because although they usually treated one in the same, usually feeling horny refers to the physical feeling we're at feeling eroticism will typically referred to the emotional feeling. Which to be honest not too many people even think about or remember that eroticism is technically any motion. And when I say people I mean just about everybody whether they be asexual or not. People either forget that it's an emotion or literally do not know it's technically also an emotion. Now I would love to ask an asexual person this question, but because it's a question that is so personal it's not an easy question to bring up in a conversation. Atmos I could just leave a post somewhere like in this comments section or on a Reddit page just asking anyone who is a sexual if they're comfortable if they could answer said question. Which again I would imagine maybe there's not one single answer. From this video it definitely helped me understand that you guys do to degree at least for those who are sex-positive feel some sort of eroticism at least on an emotional level. But that still leaves the physical portion of that unanswered. And the reason why I'm so curious is because those who are not asexual typically associate eroticism with the physical feeling of horniness. That physical feeling that burns like pain but it's a burning pleasure. Or that fire in your loins as some people might say. Because after all, although there is some emotion to it, it's at the end of the day still owe about the physical contact itself. In the urge to want to commence in said physical contact. Literally the most natural and expected things throughout most species at least mammals that it feels abnormal to know that somebody may not even have the physical capabilities to feel that physical urge at all. The concept alone just sounds so foreign. Now for those who are still having a hard time understanding why it's so foreign to the rest of, I'm going to try to explain it to you in a way that I feel like anybody could understand. Let's look at any other emotion. Whether you feel happy or sad or angry sometimes you get an actual physical feeling that comes with it. When you're happy you may feel fluttering. When you're sad and you may feel down or like you're drowning in your own emotions and thoughts. When you're angry you feel the burn of rage in your heart.maybe it feels like there's a lot of weight on your soul shoulder so you might start to shiver an ender like it if you were cold. Or maybe you actually physically get hot when you get well, heated emotionally. As in like your body temperature will rise and you would feel your body or your face literally burning from the anger. Now imagine you were incapable or at least people view you as being incapable of feeling those emotions at all. And with that you also do not feel the physical feelings that would come with setting motions. Can you imagine what it would be like if you couldn't feel angry at all? If you've never felt that burning rage in your heart or if you couldn't feel happy. You never knew what that fluttery feeling felt like from Joy. Trying to just imagine that is going to be difficult because it just happens. When something makes you happy it just happens. That's something you've become just as used to in day-to-day life has flushing the toilet after you took in a duce. But not only that, it's literally hardwired in us to feel this feelings when something makes us feel good. To get these physical feelings that come with this emotion so we can actually feel them. You've always known what it's like and you never known what it's not like. Like I really don't know how else to explain it other than it just seems so boring. And wouldn't it seem foreign to you if you met somebody who seemed like they were incapable of getting angry or sad or happy? Like they literally couldn't get that physical feeling let alone the emotion itself to come with those physical feelings. Even as I'm giving this example it's hard for me to comprehend what that would be like to not feel the emotion of anger or sadness or joy. Let alone imagine I couldn't feel eroticism or I guess horny at All by looking at the same NSFW images I'm a look at now. It just seems so for another concept to me that it's so hard for my brain to even imagine. in for anybody who's not a sexual who might be providing a bit at somebody who's a bit more sex repulsed, that's the only reason why they're prodding a bit more. The concept is so foreign that they really want to understand what it's like. And I see from the questions and speculations that I've seen from asexual people and other videos talking about the community, it definitely seems like a lot of you asexual people at the same curiosity we do but vice-versa for us. Like you're very curious as to what it's like to feel this eroticism in the morning that's the way we do. Not saying that all of yous can't feel it. I honestly don't know I need to know from you guys if you tell me. But that's all it is is this concept that so foreign to people that it makes some beyond curious to the point of an insatiable curious hunger. Want to know more and understand more because it's just so strange of a concept. But it's fascinating. And it really makes you think. It makes you think about yourself. Why do you guys work the way you do in your brains? Why did do I work the way I do with my brain? Why are you into the stuff you are into ornata too and I am into the stuff I am into or not into? And I've seen from some asexual people that it definitely seems like some of you guys want to prod at our brains the same way we want to prod at yours. You some of you have the same exact insatiable curiosity hunger that you want to feed. Cuz you want to no more it's a concept that for some of you may seem foreign. And again I do understand that this is such a personal topic we're talkin about. But since not too many people always talk about it when people do get the opportunity to talk about it and open up, sometimes the questions just come flooding in. Cuz there's so much people want to know and now they finally get the opportunity at the appropriate moment to ask said question and not come off as rude or creepy or inappropriate excetera excetera. Stuff like this sometimes makes me want to put my science cap on as one of my old favorite creators used to say and just think more about the human brain and question how it works the way it works for all of us. For us as a species, for us as communities, for us as individuals, and all that. just in general is sometimes makes me more curious about the human brain and just how it works. Now, as for the whole thing of enjoying said acts in media, but not actually always enjoying it in person is something I can at least understand.
I'm making this reply so I can extend further on what I mean by I'm able to understand why asexuals me enjoy sex in media but not the act itself. My comment is already long as it is I know, and I don't want to get that invalid argument ear which won't allow me to post a comment. Which basically means the common is too damn long. And if you're one of those who have a problem with my comic being an essay, first of all I don't care and second I know you're not complaining about an essay on a video essay. Plus, nobody forced you to read my comments. So I really don't care if it's too long for you. To those who actually decide to read it through, thank you for taking the time to at least hear my opinion. Anyway for those who want to actually understand why I'm able to understand, it goes back to that original Creator I mention that far as where I got the whole science cap thing from. Now if you ever want to hear about the situation from his mouth his self then he can just see it on the original channel he's been working on for years called justkiddingnews. His name is Barton Qwan. I don't know if I'm spelling his name correctly. But the story I'm about to tell you is what I heard from him. And his story is a reason why I can understand why some asexuals me enjoy the active media but repulsed by actually participated in the act. I remember him telling a story about how he finally got the opportunity to experience a kink with his sexual partner that he would always see in sexual media. I used to enjoy watching it all the time that he always wanted to get the opportunity to try it out with the partner. And he did. And it turned out that he actually did it enjoy the kink itself as much as he did just watching somebody else do it in the media. Now this point I'm trying to refresh my memory as I go along so I'm not going to remember everything twenties. Plus he told this story like maybe ten to twelve years ago. So it's been a minute since I've heard it. But just actually being in the act itself wasn't the same as just watching it as a third-party. It was just so awkward for him and his partner, they were inexperienced which really didn't help but of course it's a king that he's never tried before. It after the experience you kind of got repulsed from ever participated in the act itself. However, he never stopped enjoying watching it in media. He just kept watching it within the media because now he knows he doesn't enjoy the actual kick itself as much as he thought it would. And that he wasn't sure exactly how he imagined it would go down, but it was nothing like how he imagined The experience from watching the media and just self inserting himself in it in his head.which I'm not sure about some of you, but this is actually how a lot of guys out there may consume an acceptable you content sometimes. Not all men. But a lot of us. And for this part I obviously can't speak for the asexual people because I'm still learning a lot more about you guys, but this pretty much goes for a lot of gay, straight, and other queer man out there. Again, I'm not generalizing and I'm not speaking for everybody. But this is surprisingly more common than I originally expected when I first heard the experience of other guys and their consumption of NSFW media. Surprisingly most of our experiences are more relatable than we expect. No at first I did find this odd too, but then I did have some of my own personal experience do not with a partner where I eventually understood him clearly. I don't know what it is exactly, but some stuff is just better off being seen and not always participated in if you're not a hundred percent sure you're into it. At least actually participated in the act and not just being a bystander viewing it do you have Media or even as a literal third-party in the room. Not that I've done that last one before, but viewing something and participating it really is truly two different experiences. I guess another thing I could compare it to for those who don't understand that one is imagine and enjoying a video game you watch on RUclips or even a sport you like to watch. But you don't really like playing the game itself. Maybe you don't like all the running around when it comes to the sport and maybe you just don't really care to get to know the control for a video game. Maybe you just like enjoying the story but you don't really care for the gameplay too much. You enjoy watching it, but you don't enjoy participating in it.
Greyrose here (as in, greysexual and greyromantic, which basicially means my feelings for both fluctuate which is confusing as all) and i have a rather weird relationship with spicy stuff. I don't draw it, because i just don't like drawing people nude or in act and i also try to avoid kissing, because idk, but at times i do like looking at it, sometimes because i genuinely like the art, sometimes because i like what is shown. But, it can't be too realistic either and even tho that also fluctuates, i'm more repulsed by real life nsfw then drawn nsfw, which took me a while to come to terms with and even now i'm still confused about it. I do wanna shed more light on being in the grey zone when it comes to both the asexual and aromantic spectrum, since i couldn't find a correct label for a long time and my feelings just changing from time to time did not help at all
I'm Ace in a way that's not 100% sex repulsed, but more of a "Why is this treated like some be all, end all achievement in life?", sort of way, as if it's gonna magically make your life better. I've had these thoughts as a teen and I still do now (30 as of typing this). I can stomach spicy art okay, but it really just depends on how far it goes. I've always been nervous with even trying to attempt drawing it myself because I get those negative "What if" thoughts of it being put in cringe compilations and hundreds of quote tweets questioning my sanity (Can't you tell I was bullied a lot?).
I'm ace/aro and I've been wanting to get into spicy art, but I have no earthly idea where to start and what is considered attractive. The challenge is the reason it's appealing to me personally
as an aroace person personally i don't like drawing or seeing NSFW stuff and even get dysphoric when i get horny, but i respect people who do as long as they aren't doing anything that's harmful
I still struggle with family members complaining that my relationship with my ex didn’t last as long as they thought it would... I’m aromantic but not asexual. Said person and I met through Grindr and I liked them more as a friend than a romantic partner. We don’t talk anymore mostly because I personally don’t feel comfortable doing so anymore, but I’m glad that I don’t feel AS alone as I did prior to watching this vid. Happy belated pride to everyone and have a wonderful rest of the summer. ♥︎
I have been on an extensive and eye-opening personal journey over the last decade in regards of my orientation and sexually preferences. I grew up in a religious household and didn't consider anything other than being straight growing up. After high school I realized I was attracted to some of my male friends but didn't put much stock into or talk about it. It wasn't until after I got married that I realized and opened up to my wife that I was also attracted to some men. But only if I already had an emotional connection. We talked and experimented with ideas, and I thought I was ok and accepting of being bi. 8 years into our marriage, we accepted a mutual friend we both had romantic feelings towards into our relationship. 3 years into this new relationship (about 2 years ago) I realized that I struggled with being sexually active with either of them, and not for a lack of wanting ir trying, but because I found the idea of sexual activity tiring and a chore. After discussing with my therapist and my partners, I realized I like the idea of sex more than the actual act and that there was a sense that I had to preform and also get off but I'm perfectly happy satisfying them and not myself. I'm more than happy to talk about and discuss sexual topics and even engage, I just don't really have any sexual needs myself. I don't know where exactly I fall of the rainbow but I love my partners, they fulfill the needs I have and it's has nothing to do with their orientation. Not sure what my original point was but maybe I just wanted to get my experience out there.
Hi, Ace Lesbian and NSFW artist here! I just want to point out that it's not the lack of physical attraction that defines asexuality, but specifically the lack of sexual attraction. I myself am physically attracted to women in that I experience aesthetic and sensual attraction towards them, but I nevertheless identify as ace since I don't experience sexual attraction and am somewhat sex-repulsed. As a professional NSFW artist, I make a living making spicy art, but to be fair the "spiciness" has more to do with depicting fetishes than with portraying sexual acts, lol. So for me, it's either about having fun or knowing which buttons to push to please my audience. Though, when it comes to my personal work, it's all just super cute and wholesome art that is almost entirely SFW. xD
I'm aroace. Every once in a blue moon I'll draw something suggestive or maybe spicy for myself. I don't mind looking at other's artwork, but I'm not the biggest fan of drawing it myself.
for me it variates. sometimes i hate the topic and want nothing to do with it at all including art. sometimes i don't mind seeing spicy art and sometimes i even draw some myself because its pretty good anatomy practice. sometimes i couldn't care less im just vibing in my little corner while drawing princess peach
Not AroAce but I figured I'd comment anyway since I find the topic interesting. I've been creating "spicy" art for a few years and its probably my primary source of inspiration. Oftentimes these works start as a way to fulfill the need, but I'm a very slow worker. Anything I create takes several hours minimum. By the time I finish a piece, the sexual drive that inspired me to start has long since disappeared and my focus has entirely shifted away from appealing to that drive. I'm no longer thinking about how "hot" it is, but "how good is my linework? Do the lighting and shadows make sense? Is the perspective correct?" etc. Its kind of funny because I get people who ask me if I'm attracted to my own work and the answer is almost always "no." Most people assume the opposite.
As an aro/ace I don't hate the idea of romance and intimacy as long as I'm not involved like I love reading comics and books abt romance and smut but as soon as I imagine myself with an actual person I am absolutely REPULSED by it soo I guess I am repulsed by romance and sex? IDK man 👁👄👁
Even if I’m still figuring where I belong (I’m an ally of the community) I always feel scared to draw nudity. I have one character named Candy Storm, I wanted to experiment on her so I did, only I always felt like my audience was going to hate me if I shared. But once I share an art in one art class, a lot of people said my character looked fun and cute. I still struggle to share but I’ve decided to keep it separated from my RUclips and Instagram audience. (Only thing is some of the art I did I think was a bit explicit, but I’m not putting those art out there since I’m 17, I didn’t know they were until a friend pointed it out) Makes me a bit disappointed but just drawing my adult characters showing who they are is something I enjoy
As someone that is an Asexual, Closeted Trans, Lesbian, I can say, yeah, Aces can Draw and Look at spicy art, alot of people don't understand that fact, but that's what it is, a fact~ 🙏🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈🙏 And in the Asexual Spectrum, I am Demi-Ace {I could get attracted to someone after a Strong emotional bond is formed} Personally, Specific Romantic acts are not for me, like I would not want to be going on any Fancy Restaurant dinner, that makes me Uncomfortable, I wouldn't want someone playing an Instrument for me, I'd get Uncomfortable, some Romantic tropes are just... Not Romantic to me personally, I just wanted to mention this~^^ If I was to go into Topics, I'd be ok with a kiss scene and even spicier things, specially If it's 2 Female characters {Thats nothing Against anything} Something about a Male in that Situation, or in general, makes me... Uncomfortable... 😅
I found what you said about consuming NSFW art but also being repulsed by IRL sexuality very interesting. I'm a gay man and it was always very difficult for me to parse out my feelings about that, especially with how hypersexual spaces for gay men can be. Like I love NSFW art and fanfic ranging from fully clothed intimate eye contact to more explicit stuff, but any time I had opportunities to act out those fantasies in reality, I just couldn't. It made me feel like I was broken and wrong. It even caused some issues with my husband bc he knows I got folders, but he felt like I wasn't attracted to him and it hurt his self esteem and feelings. I inadvertently made him feel broken and wrong the same way others made me feel. And I do love him dearly, I'm not aromantic in slightest (you could probs could consider me a bit hyper homoromantic lmao), but sex is important for him as a person and that's valid too. So we had to have a few serious conversations about our wants and needs and boundaries, and come up with solutions and ground rules for ourselves. We found that a kind of casual open relationship is what works for us. That way he can go fuck like he wants to and he wouldn't be asking me to do something I cannot, but also that he feels good about himself and can express his sex drive bc that's important to him. There's a sense of understanding between us now and we're open about everything. He'll usually tell me about what happened when he gets home and we'll gossip and talk shit. It's a very casual thing. It's made our relationship stronger actually and brought us closer. He frequently comes home from a hook up and tells me how much better I am than them and how grateful he is for me (reaping the benefits of that post-nut clarity i guess). We affirm each other's identities and feelings. I've even gotten adventurous and watched a few times, and that was cool. We used it as an opportunity to grow as a couple and as people. idk I guess what I'm saying is that everyone is different and every relationship is different. I'm sure my story sounds sweet to some and totally pathetic and weird to others, but it doesn't matter what other people think. We forged our own solution and we do us and we've been together for almost 10 years now. I think sexuality and romanticism being seen as a spectrum is a really useful tool for communication. Like without an understanding of that framework, I feel like it could have turned into a situation where he becomes frustrated or resentful towards me and/or I push myself to do something I'm not comfortable with and get hurt. We were able to learn a lot about ourselves and I think that's great.
Probably just the fantasy and fictional aspect. I find myself enjoying written smut more than art because I get to imagine how things are played out, while real life stuff just annoys me. Kind of like imagining action scenes and writing them, in real life most of us would be terrified but it’s super suspenseful and exciting in a story.
As an ace artist, I think you covered this topic well! I have thought of most of this before and I think a lot of people who aren't ace don't get this. 😅 So I appreciate you taking the time to explain it on YT.
I'm aro ace and never really felt like i was broken and was quiet vocal how i didn't like seeing kisses on tv and was soo happy when the movie Brave came out because she didn't end up with anyone
Love your videos, love your artwork! Thanks for the great content :^) As a demisexual/romantic artist, what I love about erotic/nsfw pieces is depicting the emotional connection.
Fluidflux here! [Sex Positive] I very much enjoy drawing/writing spicy art/fics for characters I connect with. For me its like 85% about the emotional connect between the two participants - the surrendering so to speak. The other 15% is kinky indulgence, but also education. When I write my stories, I make sure its natural, but that important topics like enthusiastic consent, protection and health are peppered in. Its funny cause I can watch a porn, and just sit there and disect it for my art/fic being like 'Okay yeah, legs can only bend so far- like an educational tool' when im in the mindframe to do art... but then I can egage the side of indulgence and be like 'oh this is hot' But I can definitely that at one point, I really did think for years something was wrong with me because of my 'swinging sexual moods'... like I was somehow broken. Then I did some research and it literally had me in tears that I wasnt broken, I just fell into a very weird place. Great video! Gonna work on some more (safe) pride art here shortly. Happy Pride!
As an aegoromantic aegosexual, it’s cool that you made a video on this! Many allosexual/alloromantic people generally assume that all aces/aros are the same, even to the point of thinking that aromantic and asexual are the same thing. Showcasing the different reactions, feelings, and opinions that ace and aro people can have towards sex and romance is extremely important. I have a bunch of ace friends, but none of them act or think exactly the same when it comes to talking or thinking about sex. A good analogy I always use when explaining the a-spec to people is that sex and romance are like donuts. The majority of people eat the donuts, can taste them, and enjoy them, but some people eat the donuts less often. Or others can’t taste the donuts. Others don’t like the donuts. Others can’t taste them but like to eat them. And others, like me, don’t eat the donuts and can’t taste them, but appreciate the craftsmanship put into the donut and like how it looks. It’s a very broad spectrum, and that’s why it’s great!
Ahhh I want to start off that I LOVE your avatar, she’s ADORABLE!! Now, I’m not comfortable at the thought of getting physical with someone (I will never unless I deeply love him, because I’m technically demiromantic- I need a deep emotional connection first), because I’m naturally reserved and shy, so I’m not a physical person, but I’m not revolving that part of me as an identity (I find that so strange). Side note, yes I’m Hetero, female, I enjoy nsfw art and smut fics, and I rolled with the marriage first aspect growing up, but also the concept of saving myself made me feel more comfortable too. Which is why I’ll never understand why people look down on virginity, when it’s my body and I’ll decide to do what makes ME comfortable.
As an Ace who enjoys lewd art & roleplay we view sex the same way as we view people speed running a video game. The techniques are mechanically interesting to watch, but that doesn't mean we're interested in setting any world records ourselves.
I am pansexual, not ace, but i did figure that out until my sophomore year of college. One of the friends i had, she would specifically start with drawing people naked to make sense of where fabric falls on them when going over. I always found that interesting cuz it made so much sense. Honestly that got me to try drawing nudity for the first time & one thing i gotta say about NSFW artist is that anatomy skills are on a whole other level. Just drawing two people standing next to each other was a struggle for me trying to depict details & curves in the body. The fact that they are THAT good at pose drawing is something to be respected.
I'm a homoromantic ace demi-girl, and I recently wrote a sweet and spicy post-show Owl House fanfic. While I have no interest in sexual activity myself, but like it in concept, anything it's valid to use it as an expression of love. I wanted to write a story about a young adult couple's first time, and all the messy, awkward emotions that come with it. I wanted to capture a spicy story that was more artful and honest, which I hope I managed to capture!
I'm demisexual demiromantic(?) (with basically zero friends) and when I was in middle school there came a time when it seemed like absolutely *everyone* in my class started talking about crushes and dating and of course about s_ex (and also r*pe 0-0) while I was there thinking about drawing my MLP OCs, so it felt like I was the only person who didn't get "the joke". Only a couple years after that I realized why it was like that. I personally think spicy artworks are really cool and I like looking at them in a more aesthetic way uwu
Thank you so much for this! I'm gray-ace myself and pretty open about it with friends, which leads to a lot of confusion around my spicier works. I find it funny and will absolutely make jokes at my own expense, but I've also never felt anything but natural about it. It just fit, it made sense. But listening to this I think I can better identify why that was. I had very little desire to pursue those sorts of things in reality, but creating art was a much more comfortable and distant outlet. But I'm also guilty of being one of those people who definitely looked way more into the technical aspects than the creator of those pieces probably intended. :P And of course, it's a heck of a challenge anatomically. A great way to keep myself from getting complacent in that area.
This was awesome to hear. I have a few aro ace friends and this is awesome for me. I'm so glad there are resources like this so I can better learn about this amazing community!!! Super cool collab!!
I'm a demi/homoromantic ace (on the repulsed side) and I am so grateful you covered this topic. The misconception that all aroace people are sex repulsed is the most annoy thing I have ever seen. I have many aroace friends and all of them are different. Some find spicy stuff FUNNY and will actively seek it out. Some get fictional crushes and draw ship art of themselves and that character and find spicy jokes really funny. And some are completely disgusted by the mere mention of romantic or spicy stuff and will avoid it. And guess what, they're all aroace. I personally am an aroace who can handle romantic stuff as long as it's not kissing (that makes me uncomfortable) but cannot create it myself without feeling a bit ick. I make sus jokes, but the actual idea of it makes me incredibly uncomfortable and disgusts me. Sometimes I do have sus thoughts and they make me uncomfortable. I actively dislike it when people call stuff "ace friendly" when referring to it being without spicy stuff because ace people actually do enjoy that stuff. I hope people would actually educate themselves more on the subject of the ace spectrum and not go "Oh your ace, you must hate all this stuff". Thank you to whoever's reading this and have a good day.
Im really glad that the nuances of Aspec are being normalised and openly discussed and embraced recently. Their used to be so much gatekeeping and infighting in the community about what was or wasn't ace. We're starting to find language that lets us discuss and include everyone who feels a need to identify and thats really heartwarming. Everyone is unique and its awesome to see the community becoming even more inclusive every day.
As an aroace, it's because I do whats I wants lol. In all seriousness though, I don't really draw lewd things much, but I agree that someone's sexuality dont gotta affect what they want to make art of. (Good Video Btw!!!)
I've always found some attraction in spicy art, especially when it can communicate well as an illustration. I'll doodle conventionally attractive figures all the time in various states of clothedness - but I identify much more on the gray/demiace side of things around people. I find that I like suggestiveness and kink more than anything explicit, which is a strange bias, but I think it's actually because the drawings tend to be stronger in that context. When it's an explicit pose, in most cases it tends to start looking clinical to me - the nature of the genre mandates that it show *everything*, and that overrides a lot of other artistic decisions and turns it into a checklist. The good stuff does overcome that, but it's not actually that common to see it. Or maybe my standards are too high.
Seeing all the responses warms my heart and I’m so glad many people are feeling seen with this video! So glad to have collabed with Apollo on this special subject matter! My part of the collab will come out soon! Happy Pride Month, everyone!
TY so much you cleared up so much for my head. My wife was the one who help me understand my for lack of a better word problems understanding myself. I had never had fellings for women in the ways my friends did, and when I asked about it to one of my friends about it he showed me some NSFW and ask me what i thought about it. looking back now "I like the art style" might have been an answer he wasn't expecting by the look on his face. Unfortunatly my religous parrents may have found my refrence art i had in my room and i got into a bit of trouble. I have never found the need to date or found most women undatable because of there personalities. So until i meet my wife one day and fell in love with her, (her name is steph by the way) she is bi sexual and with her sister told me that I am Asexual and it ok. that was a huge weight of my shoulders at the time. My wife also brought back my spark for drawing that i had as a kid and soon ill be doing a animated youtube channel with her on how to train dogs. Thankyou @stephguzdoodles for my second thing that has lifted a huge weight off my minded. The stigma of NSFW art has always made me ashamed for liking the artwork and this video help me today a lot.
Happy Pride month to you too❤
As someone who is aroace and on the “feels nothing” part of the spectrum. Ill do it for money because im a little greedy lol
Lol fair
artists are pretty much sabotaged by society so if anyone should be allowed to be greedy, then it's us
MONEY WOO
I just imagine you're drawing the most nefarious shit in existence and you're just like 😐
HELL YEAH
I mean I draw gore and murder but I'm not a serial killer, so I can see why ASpec folks draw or write smut for entertainment
you haven't been _caught_ yet, you mean
@@DWN037 ssssh go to sleep
@@GraveyardMaiden you’re hearing them under your floorboards again…. Aren’t you?
@@DWN037 That's what they all mean
@@GraveyardMaiden We…… are the heart beats Lady Selky.
Me looking at spicy art:
“Nice shading, the muscles are well proportioned, hair looks natural, OH WAIT! I’m in public and can’t look at this now!!!”
and when there's a person besides you and assume things:
"you need god." / "I didn't know you're into this sort of things"
"NO NO NO it's not what it's look like-"
"yea yea 😏"
@@tunesann honestly i think the best thing ya could do in that situation is not even bat an eye and just start talking about the quality of the piece, that would probably send the message way better than trying to deny it and just makin yerself seem sus in the process lmao
DO PEOPLE NOT THINK OF THIS NORMALLY??? IVE DONE THIS SO MANYYY TIMES!! AND I WAS LIKE "Oh shit im in public!" I THOUGHT EVERYONE DID THIS LMDAOOOOOO
I DO ENJOY IT BUT THIS IS ALSO ME LIKE THERE ANATOMY IS SO GOOD?????
@@SUTAZZZwhenever i draw spicy art the anatomy is way better than with my normal art and I don't even use a reference OR a sketch unlike my normal art💀
I'm Aegosexual, which is under the ace umbrella. I like drawing spicy stuff because it's appealing in theory to me, just never in actual practice. It's nice to fantasize about it when it comes to my OCs or fave characters, just never for myself
Holy sh!t it makes sense now
Oh my god
@@NumbNutsEmporium what are you trying to say
@@SeinIshamiado actually I looked it up more it seems for more gender-fluid peps but I’ve figured out I may be aegxulity
@@SeinIshamiado idk the website was in maintenance with that stuff so it matters in time if I’m right
Heya, Ace (repulsed) Lesbian here
I always thought I was broken for not liking spicy stuff, I've been consuming more spicy art though, it's just so pretty y'know? A lot goes into art and I feel a lot better about myself after this video, thank you ❤️
Nah you're not broken, that's just how you are. And while I'm not ace, due to trauma I actually have trouble with doing spicy stuff with people but am cool with seeing it in media
Spicy stuff makes me uncomfortable. I hope you never feel alone again for not liking spicy stuff.
I find spicy art like normal art, it has variation, I prefer some art styles more than others, and some have good subject matter, while others don’t. appreciating Art is always about finding what you think looks nice, art pieces that tell a story and tell it well.
There’s this person I used to follow on Instagram who only drew extremely spicy stuff,but the artstyle was so good. I loved their work
I'm abrosexual. That means in my case, sometimes I'm easily repulsed so that watching a kissing scene causes me physical discomfort equal to someone scratching a chalkboard, or a dentist's drill. sometimes not.
sometimes I'm pretty much ace sometimes the absolute opposite of it.
I would be BI, if I wouldn't be repulsed by certain parts of anatomy
Before I knew that I'm abro, I believed I was a very moody hypocryte.
So I always understand when someones sexuality is hard to understand. Don't understand mine either. Turning 40 this year, I gave up trying.
Aroace here.
I feel like wether I'm spicy-positive or spicy-repulsed depends on just HOW spicy the content is. For example, mildly spicy things like flirting or suggestive comments/jokes I'm usually fine with. It's also easier for me when the content is written only, or if it's drawn or animated rather than realistic. But when a visual work starts getting TOO spicy or TOO realistic, that's when I nope tf out, and that includes actually doing *the thing* IRL.
As for romantic content, I'm mostly just indifferent, unless it's like that one ship that does it really well, LOL.
Same
same here i'm fine reading smut but actually seeing it gives me the yuckies
same here except when it IMMEDIATELY gets out of hand (like even the tiniest mention is enough for me to click away) i'm like "imma outieeee"
I feel the opposite to you in a whacky sense. Like I would very much prefer really spicy works without the realism and the milder ones feel boring to me. With romantic content, I’m happy to see two friends ship their OCs but I’m uncomfortable with my OCs in ships and I mostly go out of my way to try not to consume shipping works actively.
I'm asexual (sex repulsed) but experience very strong aesthetic attraction towards others. I personally don't like to engage with or create nsfw art of sexual acts but I do like seeing/ drawing artistic nudity and some suggestive artworks. I appreciate people I find pretty quite a bit despise finding the idea of having sex/ seeing people preform sexual acts pretty gross fnndjdjd
I'm aro/ace, and the horrible mixture of curious yet repulsed. It's a weird and awful combination 😂
does it matter if you're AroAce or not to draw "spicy" stuff?
this is gonna sound generic but imo just have fun
also happy pride month!
Lol that's basically the gist, this was more just a way to deconstruct and explain asexuality/aromanticism since most people’s first assumption is that most aces are just prudes
i'm aegosexual (and unlabeled rom) so i have a bit of an odd relationship with "spice" as a concept. i don't want to have it, but it is appealing to me as a form of expression in fiction and as a fantasy. i have a weird disconnect to theese fantasies/stories/expressions though, so while it is enticing, it's only enticing when it's a character participating in it for purpose of a story or message. if it were a real person (especially myself) doing it for no other reason that the act itself, it no longer is appealing/enticing.
One of my favourite quotes I have seen online is “it’s like being into the lore of fnaf without wanting to play the games”
I‘m aroace and I’m absolutely excited that you two decided to make a video about it. I absolutely used to be 100% against any nsfw (partially due to how I was raised), but ever since I interacted with people who are spicy positive and even kink positive, I’ve come to embrace that part of me that loves looking at it and drawing it myself. I’ve actually just started doing research in aroace or just aro or just ace artists that absolutely love drawing spicy kinky stuff bc it’s an artistic expression of itself and can be sooo beautiful to just look at. Even aroace people can be kinky (even if they do not want to do it physically) and express their own fantasies through their art. Which is another reason why I absolutely love art. It’s so diverse, creative and colourful, just like humans in real life.
I appreciate going this deep into the subject, but remember kids, the correct answer to when someone asks you this is "What are you, a cop?". Don't let anyone ever put you in a box you don't wanna be.
I find it funny how much my views on my own sexuality have changed over the past few years going from Straight to AroAce to Ace to Aro to Bi. Just goes to show that sexuality is not set in stone even for any given individual so people shouldn't be afraid to experiment with their own sexuality and if they turn out to be gay, lesbian, bi, pan, ace, aro, aroace, etc. that's great and if they're straight that's great too. 🎉🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️Happy Pride Month to everyone!🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈🎉
my little aroace artist heart is so happy hearing someone's opinion on this topic 😭
When you said people can be "Aesthetic attracted" it kinda does make sense for me. I'm sexually attracted to the physical appearance of certain types of women and even men, but I never felt the need to actually do the act to a person. I'm heteroromantic but I've always felt a bit more on the ace side of things when it comes to sexuality, even with the slight sexual attraction. This video definitely helps me understand a little bit more about that so thank you so much for this informative video!
Also, yeah when I was in my early 20s some people including friends were like "You just gotta have the act once to be sure if it's for you" or "You should do it at least once", to which anyone reading this and have told that to people, please don't. If someone is just not into it, they're not into it. Don't pressure them especially since those who have had done the act should know it's not a walk in the park. It can be a bit much on the body and on the emotional health and mental health. Not anyone can do that and many people will simply know what they can and cannot handle without even needing to do the act. Telling them to try it or pressuring them is unhealthy, disrespecting their views/rights and can cause more damage than good.
So true! I’m a heterosexual, but I’m attracted to the physical appearances of both men and women, or perhaps “The beauty of the human body”.
As an aroace and artist who has, admittively drawn NSFW art in the past, this was such a genuinely fun and informative video. Great job you two!! Also hoooly hell I AM SO the aroace type at---13:44. I feel conflicted since I moved into wanting to try to draw human suggestive art/NSFW art but I *cannot* for the life of me look up real-life NSFW. Which is ironic since I would need references to do human-related.
So, I do feel like I am somewhat tolerant, I am interested in the concept of romance + intimacy for fictional sense. It's a must if you ship two characters or have your own characters who are in a relationship----but as for myself, I am in no way interested in either a romantic or intimate relationship.
This video helped me understand a bit more of myself, and realized there's much more people out there like me who feel the same way- it definitely helps.
Happy Pride month everyone, sneding love to my fellow aroace artists
I relate to this comment a lot,
Lol
I’m aroace and pan. People don’t get that I can simp over characters of ALL genders and not want to be in a romantic relationship or like the idea of… sexual acts at ALL. It’s like “how can you be pan when you don’t like people or relationships? Liar” like I’m not allowed to understand that I like all genders 😟
@bruh moment lmao look who just came my example. I CAN be.
Yeah I am am also panromantic and on the asexual spectrum, so I get what you're saying.
As a Pan angled AroAce, i agree! Just to clarify some stuff for others in the comments, Pan could be their tertiary attraction (or qpa, or any other one, since there are alot), or they could be on the aroace spectrum and pan! :D It's not necessarily exclusive, attraction is a weird thing- Even if that's not the case, there's no harm in saying that they're aroace and pan
@Leni( ꈍᴗꈍ) Agreed, no harm done! And something like a tertiary attraction would make sense. Something about "being {insert attraction type} attracted to no one" while simultaneously "being {insert attraction type} to everyone" is confusing to my brain. Give me some time to process this, and I'm sure it'll sort itself out.
A reminder to others in the comments, asexuality to allosexuality is itself a spectrum.
For instance, there's demisexuals, fraysexuals, graysexuals--all still ace but not 100% ace, and the same can be said for the romantic side. So yes, someone can be both asexual and pansexual under certain conditions, and the same for aromantic and panromantic under certain conditions.
I like to think of sexuality as a 3 dimensional spectrum. There's straight to bi to gay, and there's allosexual to graysexual to asexual.
As someone who identifies as panromantic asexual, I’m so happy to find a video discussing asexuality and aromanticism! It took me forever to realize that I’m ace because I didn’t learn what it was until I was seventeen!
i have a friend that i didnt know was ace and when I found out I thought I had to stop or be careful when talking abt spicy things when we've almost always talked abt spicy stuff but I soon realized that the ace part of them doesn't affect and has never affected their interest and engagement w/ our conversations since the spicy stuff was oc and fictional character things
I'm also sobbing frothing at the mouth bcuz there are some VERY SPECIFIC THINGS here that I find connect and resonate with ME and I'm abt to be confused for a whole as week ty for helping me feel more connected to my identity and reassured that my friendships wont crumble beneath me >w
I'm a sex neutral AroAce that can appreciate beauty in art. I have always told people that I'm a "great in theory, no thank you in practice" individual. spicy art or videos are fine and I'm an in theory 'hopeless romantic' cause I think it's adorable, but I do not feel romantic myself so people being too romantic toward me makes me feel awkward and almost... bored? like "bro I'm not feeling the feelings in this moment, so you're just moving really slow and really ... close"
That said, I've drawn my fair share of experimental stuff and I'm in the process of writing a satirical spicy book :D
I'm glad to see the aroace representation!!
why not
(I’m aegoaroace and I don’t rlly draw nsfw, but you do you :] )
FOR MONEY!! I’d do it for money, “draw my characters kissing each other for $20” *DEAL*
One of my fave aro/ace reps is a character from "My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU"
(Mild Spoilers)
She's shown as a super fangirl Fujoshi (really into gay men) - but when a classmate shows interest in her, she confides in the protag that she doesn't see herself having feelings for anyone. I think the best part of her arc is that the resolution *isn't* her being "cured" - it's that they convince the guy to give up and she goes about her life.
i am that stereotype of ace people HATING sexual shit
hate it dont wanna see anything suggestive get it away from me
🤝🤝🤝🤝
Same lol
Understandable. Have a nice day.
That mental block description is very accurate, I can’t quite imagine or think up spicy things in my head very well and therefore drawing them would be even harder.
But this topic is interesting to me. I don’t know what aroace label describes me properly, I feel aroace is fine, but it’s the fact I engage in romantic and sexual things that adds the confusion, there isn’t much representation for that and it’s rarely talked about. I don’t see people like that but I’m fine with the situation to some degree. It’s a sense of comfortability that lets me move past straight up disgust and anxiety. NSFW art and content is a way to process these experiences by yourself, and that’s important to many. More than anything me not seeing people this way is the reason I explore it, because I don’t quite understand it and want to dissect it and put it on display, it’s why I write about it and use what I call “gay s3x as a plot device” (I don’t know if RUclips attacks comments). It’s a way to explore a topic from different angles and consider different perspectives that u don’t share
I'm demi aroace, and for the most part, I'm spicy positive. I like seeing spicy art. It's very rare when I don't want to see spicy artwork, but that depends on the day, to be honest.
I've been interested in drawing my OC with a favorite fictional character in an intimate setting, too. :3
This was a very nice collab! 💜
Gay guy here. It is somewhat interesting to me for a few reasons.
Grew up in a conservative household in the 90s, so discussing spicy in person tends to be somewhat difficult to me because I was conditioned to think of it as "impolite". People have thought I was ace before because of this.
It was difficult to come to terms with my sexuality partly because I find straight spicy repulsive. I'm fine with the romance itself but the act is actively something that causes me discomfort.
A big part of what draws me to spicy art is the emotional aspect. I find that this also extends to my, questionably written, fanfics where frequently the act itself takes up half or less of even ones that are supposed to have it as their purpose.
Demisexual here, I find spicy times appealing in media, especially drawn or animated, it's the thought of having it myself which makes me uncomfortable. I value the emotional connection and trust the most, and since I don't have such a person right now, there's no one I can imagine without going into fight-or-flight mode.
But, *fictional characters* are a different thing. Having a character I love, with my sona (who doesn't quite look like me) is the perfect loophole for my brain to not worry about trust or consequences. Plus, when I was younger, I used to look at spicy artwork *casually,* not even for self-spicy-times, just to admire specific types of characters, different art styles, appreciate the skill of the artists, and such.
Heyyyy ! , I’m not ACE at all, but i think that NSFW artwork is just how some people draw characters from a game or anime as it’s part of their design, if you look at it from a V tuber POV , that’s how they want to design their model and who am I to yuck someone’s yum about it , but ffs please be aware of the cannonical age of the character before you draw, overall i personally believe that it is just another bump in the art road , also I’m still offering my assistance for mint and friends, thank you Fiona for covering this topic ❤
I’m demisexual nonbinary and being on the asexual journey has had its troubles. In high school my friends all called me Peter Pan because they just assumed I was childish and naive and wanted to “preserve my innocence” when I just had no attraction period. I was even aromantic when I was younger. And it’s not like I was grossed out. I was just confused, uninformed, and didn’t care to look into those sort of things. I felt nothing to nsfw things.
Now as a married adult, I view nsfw art as an art in itself. I’ve tried myself to draw nsfw but it feels like I’m walking into the room while my characters are doing it (though writing and thinking the scene is easier.). But it is nice to appreciate nsfw art others do because it’s something I’m not skilled in. It’s spicy and I can view the story being told of the scene/art/etc…
Thank you again for making videos like this. It’s nice to look into these things and see what other aroace people think within the video and comments.
This video is very insightful, and I always love learning more about the ace and aro spectrums. though I do not identify with either ace or aro people, I do still find it hard creating genuine romantic feelings for others. I’m quick to get infatuated, but it quickly dies down and then I feel nothing. Just something I was pondering about while watching this video don’t know if it means anything in terms of my identity but it was nonetheless fun to question and ponder my relationship to Romance and sex while watching this video. I hope you have a safe and happy pride month.
i think you mean aro, not arrow
@@typhoonboom Was probably autocorrect lol
@@typhoonboom yeah I did auto correct always does that when I try to type aro 😅😂
@@casualwiifan yeah lol
Perhaps look into frayromantic. Feeling attraction until a bond is formed. So, the opposite of demiromantic, feeling attraction only after a bond is formed.
There's also lithoromantic, feeling attraction until it's reciprocated. So, the opposite of reciproromantic, feeling attraction only if it's reciprocated. :)
I’ll be honest I can’t stand smut. I’m ace (nsfw repulsed) myself. Even reading nsfw makes me uncomfortable. I’m also 95% sure I’m either grey romantic or Demi romantic but just because I’m ace and grey (or Demi) romantic doesn’t mean I enjoy a little bit of flirting in books. I’m 16. I was told all my life that don’t worry, You’ll get over it! I still am not. I’m completely against sexual activities. I can’t stand the idea of it alone let alone doing it. But as an artist, I love drawing moments right before two characters in love fall in love. I have a picture of ocs playing twister and two characters getting two characters on to almost on top of each other. It’s just a funny picture to me. It doesn’t mean I want that to happen to me. It’s just fun to draw.
as an aroace artist, i personally love drawing the human form, especially women. there are nothing sexual about my sketches and i'm also a firm believer that the human body is not inherently sexual, so i have no problem with nakedness. i do kinda cringe when i see art depicting naked people in a suggestive way, but thanks to the filters we have on social media i can avoid them when i'm not in the mood. i sometimes get horny, but i'm sure that's just because of my hormones and being aroused is a normal thing we shouldn't be ashamed about.
i do appreciate you two starting this discussion, because this is a topic worth discussing and we aspecs often get ignored.
Same man, Americans (and plenty of other much smaller countries too) are just being weird about nudity and then accuse the places that aren't of being "overly sexual". A human body is a human body, sexual acts are sexual, context matters.
The light background tapping at around 3:03-3:05 freaked me out!! Because I was wearing headphones in my EMPTY house at midnight! I thought it was knocking at my door! 😂😅
14:46 The meow in the background omg so sweet.
I've found that I enjoy seeing the emotions associated with intimate acts on the characters in the art rather than the actual act itself, which just leads me to draw those kinda works as "cropped out"/implied (I feel like I should note that these come in the form of doodles, never actual finished pieces). You gotta have a lot of trust in someone to engage in that kind of intimacy and its surprisingly wholesome if you think about it like that. The same applies to writing out spice, I never seem to be able to get myself to describe what is actually happening between the characters, only what they're thinking/feeling throughout
Awesome birthday present thank you
My first hypothesis is that some Ace people not feeling physical attractive feelings might want to be aroused out of curiosity because they don't know why they aren't, similar to how when someone who is numb, either through medication or depression, can try to feel something by at first trying to move around their numb body parts before trying to create more and more extreme stimuli that can lead to self-harm if and only if they don't know what they're doing and why they are feeling the way that they feel. Kind of like a "I can't feel anything, so let's see how far I can push myself until I feel something" type of logic. Just a hypothesis for right now before I dive into the rest of the video.
And now the whole "repulsed" and "not repulsed" subcategories throw a small wrench into this hypothesis, along with the fact that sometimes it's just a professional job. See, another new possibility and a another thing to make sure we need to know
4:11 - 5:54 - 7:20 - 8:30 - 9:22 Exactly the point I needed to hear!
Thank you so much. If I had seen this video as a kid/teen, it would have saved me a lot of heartache.
I'm some sort of spicy-repulsed/demisexual obsessive lithromantic who was raised Christian in a very... unsexual family. Being surrounded by horny teens in high school was torture and then going home and being horny in my own ways in private made me feel like a freak. When my sister came out as ace, I knew that wasn't me because we experience sexual and romantic attraction differently. I was a bit acephobic. I finally did some digging and it turns out we're both asexual, just in different ways.
My experience interacting with spicy content started as a combination of Christian horror and morbid curiosity. Then it switched to rabid consumption (almost addiction) when I discovered yaoi. I've toyed with the idea of writing spice-including content and have started craving explicitly nonsexual romance where the asexuality of the main characters is addressed.
Accepting exactly what I do and don't want for myself in terms of physical intimacy (none thanks) and romantic relationships (none for now) has both made my relationship with spicy content more confusing and more honest. I'm currently trying to read less smut in an attempt to understand when I actually want something vs when I'm giving in to impulse.
A collab video? I like you bouncing your ideas off someone else to get a second opinion.
Lovely video. Always nice to see something like this. The art discussion put a spin on the the topic that I'd never heard before. Nice touch!
I don't draw, but I might be able to relate to what you said about how your brain kind of shut off when you tried drawing NSFW. Once, just by accident, I found something NSFW. At first, the woman's face was the only thing that registered, and the rest of it was just a blur in my mind. I had to stare at that picture for about 5 seconds before my brain resolved the image in my mind. Once I figured out what I was looking at... let's just say I had a very negative reaction. The silver-lining here is that any time I'm having one of those moments when I'm doubting if I'm actually ace after all, I can think back to that moment and feel reassured that I am DEFINITELY a spicy-repulsed ace.
im aroace and i personally am kinda indifferent to stuff like spicy art even though I dont draw it. i know it exists but id rather draw things i find much more fun like backgrounds or plants
I'm an aro romance writer (funnily enough fell into it first writing smut and then wondering how my characters might be outside of... those times. Lo and behold, they are very cute)
I now adore fictional romance, it is on track to becoming my second fav genre after realizing I'm actually into it, I just avoided it for so long because I knew I'm not into irl so... why would I look at it in fiction I thought. (And also not really being into straight romance, maybe that is why none of those I passively picked up worked for me.) Suffice to say, very spicy positive now.
I did ponder this for a while, though never to the point where I'd actually seek out the topic - after doing the song and dance with being trans and then lesbian, I didn't particularly care about what society might deem normal at this point - but this vid comes as the pride month validation I didn't know I needed.
Similarly to some people under the Ace umbrella with NSFW artwork(as long as it doesn't go into malicious territory), I'm Aromantic, but I do enjoy media a good bit with romance in it. I know stories with romantic relationships aren't for everyone and that's fine because not everyone, Aromantic or not, feel the same way about that.
Also, a Happy Pride Month to everyone here.
I don't experience attraction and desire (whether it be romantic,, or sexual) , but I do have some sexual interests that I like to indulge in through spicy works. I say interests because they don't quite feel like fantasies. They're sexual stuff I'm drawn to, but I don't have that 'this is so hot' kind of reaction or interest in them. Plus they're some writers and comic artists that make engaging stories that are fun to read.
Early- yay.
Very glad to see another amazing creation from you Fiona!
I’m ace-flux (for me I mostly just fluctuate asexual and demi-sexual, and on rare occasions allosexual) and my comfort level with nsfw stuff is usually shifting.
Im aroace(? Am currently questioning my sexuality but until/if I find a better label that’s what im sticking with), and im on the part of the spectrum where it’s like “makes suggestive jokes, dirty jokes, etc., but wld never actually do the act irl (and is fine with suggestive material, and is more indifferent to it then anything)”. So basically- I like making dirty jokes, bc I find them funny. That’s jst my humour. Suggestive fan art and works don’t bother me, and I’ve read some- *very* smutty things before and the most that had happened is me getting a lil giggly, or surprised bc the work includes something I hadn’t known of before (usually of the kinky variety, iykwim).
Honestly, after discovering more about the ace spectrom, im starting to think I might just be *on* the spectrum in general- as in, I know im *something* on there, just not specifically *what* - but idk if that’s just a fresh bout of imposter syndrome making me doubt myself or if it’s a genuine “i am currently questioning my sexuality” kinda thing lmao.
ANYGAYS imma stop typing before I go on a whole rant, lmfao, but thanks for coming to my tedtalk anyway LMAO- have a good day/night heh
I'm on the ace spectrum, and personally I don't really care much about doing spicy with others, unless its somebody I have a close enough bond with. On the other hand, I'm very enthusiastic about my ocs being spicy. I like drawing anatomy, as well as having my characters being intimate after forming bonds. Lingerie is also pretty and fun to draw!
Happy pride, everyone!
Edit: Wait, you're ace too? Neat!
Edit 2: 17:56 Was that a kitty?
I cannot possibly emphasize how much I love seeing some space made for aromantic folk during pride month. Because we are often left out, I actually feel more alone and isolated sexuality wise during pride month than at any other time of the year. So thank for much for using your platform to make some place for all of us in the community
can confirm
Aroace here
(Tysm for inculdeing us)
I dont mind nsfw work as a consept
I dont draw sexual art but understanding it as a consept in intersting
Seeing people irl doing those things isnt the best vide for me nor looking at nsfw
But if someone dose want to draw it power to them i have also gone though books, fanfictons in a slight nsfw undertone and be alright with it
I also dont mind drawing art that others might see as unmodest or s-xu@al art
i stilll dont enjoy nsfw art,action or books at all and when i can i do avoid it i can draw charectars in a romanic fromat (holding hands a kiss ect) it can go from fun to just another drawing depends
(Sorry if the wording sucks im not that great at english
I oddly felt really seen cuz for me I don't really like smut and other things like that and Im on the ace spectrum also nice to see someone who is ace talk about this!
I’m the type of AroAce that gets uncomfortable with sexual stuff like movies with sexual stuff in it like for example I love Twilight but I can’t watch Breaking Dawn part one because that one scene made little me very uncomfortable and it still does. Also I must add that every time someone points out a “dirty” joke in a Disney movie I never understand what they’re talking about, not sure if that’s because my mind is as innocent as a baby or that I’m AroAce but I thought it might help people understand how my mind works… I’m gonna add this one last thing, I’m somewhat really weary when one of my friends post and art in discord with a spoiler cause this one time I looked at one and I felt so weird and I closed discord to get away from it pretty much… I feel weird talking about this stuff right now so I’m just gonna leave this here and never come back to this comment section lol.
As an AroAce artist who draws short comedy stories, spicy art is just a form of shock humor - in fact, it always has been. Back in 5th grade, people would call me names for drawing that type of stuff. I didn't understand back then that they saw spicy art as more than just a taboo subject. As I said, to me, it's nothing more than shock humor. It goes against conservative cultural expectations, and that's what makes it so funny.
Edit: I might have to add that real NSFW art does make me very uncomfortable. So when I draw "spicy characters", it's always just them in stereotypical anime beach episode swimsuits. And for jokes where I do draw them entirely naked, they're still heavily censored (and I never draw what's beneath the censorship bars) So yeah, it's just very mild spicy stuff that's only there for the typical anime trope.
That honestly sounds like a really funny concept. While not being Ace myself, I usually get uncomfortable around sexual content that is made to just turn people on. But this...... this just sounds like chaotic fun and I would love to see it.
Good to know I'm not alone in that perspective
I thought i was the only who did this, Thank god 🙏
Personally as somebody who is not asexual this has been very fascinating to me and has answered quite a lot of questions I've had about asexual people. Not all of them. But quite a few of them.
Though given how diverse is asexuality is I feel like many of my questions will continue to go on answered until I got at least a variety of opinions and experienced it from people. Because there will not be a single answer for said questions.
I do also have a question that's kind of sort of half answered. And that's whether or not asexual people can even feel horny / eroticism. And I don't mean that in any sort of disrespectful wear anything but genuine curiosity. Cuz I think one of the misconceptions, assuming it's a misconception that is, that people myself have of asexual people as whether or not you guys can even feel horny or eroticism at all.
And I say slash and or because although they usually treated one in the same, usually feeling horny refers to the physical feeling we're at feeling eroticism will typically referred to the emotional feeling. Which to be honest not too many people even think about or remember that eroticism is technically any motion. And when I say people I mean just about everybody whether they be asexual or not. People either forget that it's an emotion or literally do not know it's technically also an emotion.
Now I would love to ask an asexual person this question, but because it's a question that is so personal it's not an easy question to bring up in a conversation. Atmos I could just leave a post somewhere like in this comments section or on a Reddit page just asking anyone who is a sexual if they're comfortable if they could answer said question. Which again I would imagine maybe there's not one single answer.
From this video it definitely helped me understand that you guys do to degree at least for those who are sex-positive feel some sort of eroticism at least on an emotional level. But that still leaves the physical portion of that unanswered.
And the reason why I'm so curious is because those who are not asexual typically associate eroticism with the physical feeling of horniness. That physical feeling that burns like pain but it's a burning pleasure. Or that fire in your loins as some people might say. Because after all, although there is some emotion to it, it's at the end of the day still owe about the physical contact itself. In the urge to want to commence in said physical contact.
Literally the most natural and expected things throughout most species at least mammals that it feels abnormal to know that somebody may not even have the physical capabilities to feel that physical urge at all. The concept alone just sounds so foreign.
Now for those who are still having a hard time understanding why it's so foreign to the rest of, I'm going to try to explain it to you in a way that I feel like anybody could understand. Let's look at any other emotion. Whether you feel happy or sad or angry sometimes you get an actual physical feeling that comes with it.
When you're happy you may feel fluttering. When you're sad and you may feel down or like you're drowning in your own emotions and thoughts. When you're angry you feel the burn of rage in your heart.maybe it feels like there's a lot of weight on your soul shoulder so you might start to shiver an ender like it if you were cold. Or maybe you actually physically get hot when you get well, heated emotionally. As in like your body temperature will rise and you would feel your body or your face literally burning from the anger.
Now imagine you were incapable or at least people view you as being incapable of feeling those emotions at all. And with that you also do not feel the physical feelings that would come with setting motions. Can you imagine what it would be like if you couldn't feel angry at all? If you've never felt that burning rage in your heart or if you couldn't feel happy. You never knew what that fluttery feeling felt like from Joy.
Trying to just imagine that is going to be difficult because it just happens. When something makes you happy it just happens. That's something you've become just as used to in day-to-day life has flushing the toilet after you took in a duce. But not only that, it's literally hardwired in us to feel this feelings when something makes us feel good. To get these physical feelings that come with this emotion so we can actually feel them.
You've always known what it's like and you never known what it's not like. Like I really don't know how else to explain it other than it just seems so boring. And wouldn't it seem foreign to you if you met somebody who seemed like they were incapable of getting angry or sad or happy? Like they literally couldn't get that physical feeling let alone the emotion itself to come with those physical feelings.
Even as I'm giving this example it's hard for me to comprehend what that would be like to not feel the emotion of anger or sadness or joy. Let alone imagine I couldn't feel eroticism or I guess horny at All by looking at the same NSFW images I'm a look at now. It just seems so for another concept to me that it's so hard for my brain to even imagine.
in for anybody who's not a sexual who might be providing a bit at somebody who's a bit more sex repulsed, that's the only reason why they're prodding a bit more. The concept is so foreign that they really want to understand what it's like.
And I see from the questions and speculations that I've seen from asexual people and other videos talking about the community, it definitely seems like a lot of you asexual people at the same curiosity we do but vice-versa for us. Like you're very curious as to what it's like to feel this eroticism in the morning that's the way we do. Not saying that all of yous can't feel it. I honestly don't know I need to know from you guys if you tell me.
But that's all it is is this concept that so foreign to people that it makes some beyond curious to the point of an insatiable curious hunger. Want to know more and understand more because it's just so strange of a concept. But it's fascinating. And it really makes you think. It makes you think about yourself. Why do you guys work the way you do in your brains? Why did do I work the way I do with my brain? Why are you into the stuff you are into ornata too and I am into the stuff I am into or not into?
And I've seen from some asexual people that it definitely seems like some of you guys want to prod at our brains the same way we want to prod at yours. You some of you have the same exact insatiable curiosity hunger that you want to feed. Cuz you want to no more it's a concept that for some of you may seem foreign.
And again I do understand that this is such a personal topic we're talkin about. But since not too many people always talk about it when people do get the opportunity to talk about it and open up, sometimes the questions just come flooding in. Cuz there's so much people want to know and now they finally get the opportunity at the appropriate moment to ask said question and not come off as rude or creepy or inappropriate excetera excetera.
Stuff like this sometimes makes me want to put my science cap on as one of my old favorite creators used to say and just think more about the human brain and question how it works the way it works for all of us. For us as a species, for us as communities, for us as individuals, and all that.
just in general is sometimes makes me more curious about the human brain and just how it works. Now, as for the whole thing of enjoying said acts in media, but not actually always enjoying it in person is something I can at least understand.
I'm making this reply so I can extend further on what I mean by I'm able to understand why asexuals me enjoy sex in media but not the act itself. My comment is already long as it is I know, and I don't want to get that invalid argument ear which won't allow me to post a comment. Which basically means the common is too damn long.
And if you're one of those who have a problem with my comic being an essay, first of all I don't care and second I know you're not complaining about an essay on a video essay. Plus, nobody forced you to read my comments. So I really don't care if it's too long for you. To those who actually decide to read it through, thank you for taking the time to at least hear my opinion.
Anyway for those who want to actually understand why I'm able to understand, it goes back to that original Creator I mention that far as where I got the whole science cap thing from. Now if you ever want to hear about the situation from his mouth his self then he can just see it on the original channel he's been working on for years called justkiddingnews. His name is Barton Qwan. I don't know if I'm spelling his name correctly. But the story I'm about to tell you is what I heard from him. And his story is a reason why I can understand why some asexuals me enjoy the active media but repulsed by actually participated in the act.
I remember him telling a story about how he finally got the opportunity to experience a kink with his sexual partner that he would always see in sexual media. I used to enjoy watching it all the time that he always wanted to get the opportunity to try it out with the partner. And he did. And it turned out that he actually did it enjoy the kink itself as much as he did just watching somebody else do it in the media.
Now this point I'm trying to refresh my memory as I go along so I'm not going to remember everything twenties. Plus he told this story like maybe ten to twelve years ago. So it's been a minute since I've heard it.
But just actually being in the act itself wasn't the same as just watching it as a third-party. It was just so awkward for him and his partner, they were inexperienced which really didn't help but of course it's a king that he's never tried before. It after the experience you kind of got repulsed from ever participated in the act itself. However, he never stopped enjoying watching it in media. He just kept watching it within the media because now he knows he doesn't enjoy the actual kick itself as much as he thought it would.
And that he wasn't sure exactly how he imagined it would go down, but it was nothing like how he imagined The experience from watching the media and just self inserting himself in it in his head.which I'm not sure about some of you, but this is actually how a lot of guys out there may consume an acceptable you content sometimes. Not all men. But a lot of us. And for this part I obviously can't speak for the asexual people because I'm still learning a lot more about you guys, but this pretty much goes for a lot of gay, straight, and other queer man out there. Again, I'm not generalizing and I'm not speaking for everybody. But this is surprisingly more common than I originally expected when I first heard the experience of other guys and their consumption of NSFW media.
Surprisingly most of our experiences are more relatable than we expect. No at first I did find this odd too, but then I did have some of my own personal experience do not with a partner where I eventually understood him clearly.
I don't know what it is exactly, but some stuff is just better off being seen and not always participated in if you're not a hundred percent sure you're into it. At least actually participated in the act and not just being a bystander viewing it do you have Media or even as a literal third-party in the room. Not that I've done that last one before, but viewing something and participating it really is truly two different experiences.
I guess another thing I could compare it to for those who don't understand that one is imagine and enjoying a video game you watch on RUclips or even a sport you like to watch. But you don't really like playing the game itself. Maybe you don't like all the running around when it comes to the sport and maybe you just don't really care to get to know the control for a video game. Maybe you just like enjoying the story but you don't really care for the gameplay too much. You enjoy watching it, but you don't enjoy participating in it.
@@HexMon-f5d This was the logest full detailed worded comment i seen but yeah i agree with what you said.
What for a cool topic! Wow!
This came out great! I'm so happy I could help be a voice in this along with so many others ^_^ Happy Pride everyone!! -Jae
Greyrose here (as in, greysexual and greyromantic, which basicially means my feelings for both fluctuate which is confusing as all) and i have a rather weird relationship with spicy stuff.
I don't draw it, because i just don't like drawing people nude or in act and i also try to avoid kissing, because idk, but at times i do like looking at it, sometimes because i genuinely like the art, sometimes because i like what is shown. But, it can't be too realistic either and even tho that also fluctuates, i'm more repulsed by real life nsfw then drawn nsfw, which took me a while to come to terms with and even now i'm still confused about it.
I do wanna shed more light on being in the grey zone when it comes to both the asexual and aromantic spectrum, since i couldn't find a correct label for a long time and my feelings just changing from time to time did not help at all
I'm Ace in a way that's not 100% sex repulsed, but more of a "Why is this treated like some be all, end all achievement in life?", sort of way, as if it's gonna magically make your life better. I've had these thoughts as a teen and I still do now (30 as of typing this). I can stomach spicy art okay, but it really just depends on how far it goes. I've always been nervous with even trying to attempt drawing it myself because I get those negative "What if" thoughts of it being put in cringe compilations and hundreds of quote tweets questioning my sanity (Can't you tell I was bullied a lot?).
Happy pride month!!!!!! :)
I'm ace/aro and I've been wanting to get into spicy art, but I have no earthly idea where to start and what is considered attractive. The challenge is the reason it's appealing to me personally
as an aroace person personally i don't like drawing or seeing NSFW stuff and even get dysphoric when i get horny, but i respect people who do as long as they aren't doing anything that's harmful
I still struggle with family members complaining that my relationship with my ex didn’t last as long as they thought it would... I’m aromantic but not asexual. Said person and I met through Grindr and I liked them more as a friend than a romantic partner. We don’t talk anymore mostly because I personally don’t feel comfortable doing so anymore, but I’m glad that I don’t feel AS alone as I did prior to watching this vid. Happy belated pride to everyone and have a wonderful rest of the summer. ♥︎
I have been on an extensive and eye-opening personal journey over the last decade in regards of my orientation and sexually preferences. I grew up in a religious household and didn't consider anything other than being straight growing up. After high school I realized I was attracted to some of my male friends but didn't put much stock into or talk about it. It wasn't until after I got married that I realized and opened up to my wife that I was also attracted to some men. But only if I already had an emotional connection. We talked and experimented with ideas, and I thought I was ok and accepting of being bi. 8 years into our marriage, we accepted a mutual friend we both had romantic feelings towards into our relationship. 3 years into this new relationship (about 2 years ago) I realized that I struggled with being sexually active with either of them, and not for a lack of wanting ir trying, but because I found the idea of sexual activity tiring and a chore. After discussing with my therapist and my partners, I realized I like the idea of sex more than the actual act and that there was a sense that I had to preform and also get off but I'm perfectly happy satisfying them and not myself. I'm more than happy to talk about and discuss sexual topics and even engage, I just don't really have any sexual needs myself. I don't know where exactly I fall of the rainbow but I love my partners, they fulfill the needs I have and it's has nothing to do with their orientation. Not sure what my original point was but maybe I just wanted to get my experience out there.
Definitely _not_ misty-eyed at all over how seen I feel by this video nope _nope_
(thank you both for this)
Great video! I'll definitely be reading the responses in the document- it's interesting to see what everyone else's opinions on this are!
Hi, Ace Lesbian and NSFW artist here! I just want to point out that it's not the lack of physical attraction that defines asexuality, but specifically the lack of sexual attraction. I myself am physically attracted to women in that I experience aesthetic and sensual attraction towards them, but I nevertheless identify as ace since I don't experience sexual attraction and am somewhat sex-repulsed.
As a professional NSFW artist, I make a living making spicy art, but to be fair the "spiciness" has more to do with depicting fetishes than with portraying sexual acts, lol. So for me, it's either about having fun or knowing which buttons to push to please my audience.
Though, when it comes to my personal work, it's all just super cute and wholesome art that is almost entirely SFW. xD
I'm aroace. Every once in a blue moon I'll draw something suggestive or maybe spicy for myself. I don't mind looking at other's artwork, but I'm not the biggest fan of drawing it myself.
for me it variates. sometimes i hate the topic and want nothing to do with it at all including art. sometimes i don't mind seeing spicy art and sometimes i even draw some myself because its pretty good anatomy practice. sometimes i couldn't care less im just vibing in my little corner while drawing princess peach
Not AroAce but I figured I'd comment anyway since I find the topic interesting. I've been creating "spicy" art for a few years and its probably my primary source of inspiration. Oftentimes these works start as a way to fulfill the need, but I'm a very slow worker. Anything I create takes several hours minimum. By the time I finish a piece, the sexual drive that inspired me to start has long since disappeared and my focus has entirely shifted away from appealing to that drive. I'm no longer thinking about how "hot" it is, but "how good is my linework? Do the lighting and shadows make sense? Is the perspective correct?" etc. Its kind of funny because I get people who ask me if I'm attracted to my own work and the answer is almost always "no." Most people assume the opposite.
As an aro/ace I don't hate the idea of romance and intimacy as long as I'm not involved like I love reading comics and books abt romance and smut but as soon as I imagine myself with an actual person I am absolutely REPULSED by it soo I guess I am repulsed by romance and sex? IDK man 👁👄👁
@@mercury3096 idk man maybe?
Sometimes I like money sometimes the art brain just likes the art part and the spicy goes over my head
Even if I’m still figuring where I belong (I’m an ally of the community) I always feel scared to draw nudity. I have one character named Candy Storm, I wanted to experiment on her so I did, only I always felt like my audience was going to hate me if I shared. But once I share an art in one art class, a lot of people said my character looked fun and cute. I still struggle to share but I’ve decided to keep it separated from my RUclips and Instagram audience. (Only thing is some of the art I did I think was a bit explicit, but I’m not putting those art out there since I’m 17, I didn’t know they were until a friend pointed it out) Makes me a bit disappointed but just drawing my adult characters showing who they are is something I enjoy
As someone that is an Asexual, Closeted Trans, Lesbian, I can say, yeah, Aces can Draw and Look at spicy art, alot of people don't understand that fact, but that's what it is, a fact~ 🙏🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈🙏
And in the Asexual Spectrum, I am Demi-Ace {I could get attracted to someone after a Strong emotional bond is formed} Personally, Specific Romantic acts are not for me, like I would not want to be going on any Fancy Restaurant dinner, that makes me Uncomfortable, I wouldn't want someone playing an Instrument for me, I'd get Uncomfortable, some Romantic tropes are just... Not Romantic to me personally, I just wanted to mention this~^^
If I was to go into Topics, I'd be ok with a kiss scene and even spicier things, specially If it's 2 Female characters {Thats nothing Against anything} Something about a Male in that Situation, or in general, makes me... Uncomfortable... 😅
I found what you said about consuming NSFW art but also being repulsed by IRL sexuality very interesting. I'm a gay man and it was always very difficult for me to parse out my feelings about that, especially with how hypersexual spaces for gay men can be. Like I love NSFW art and fanfic ranging from fully clothed intimate eye contact to more explicit stuff, but any time I had opportunities to act out those fantasies in reality, I just couldn't. It made me feel like I was broken and wrong. It even caused some issues with my husband bc he knows I got folders, but he felt like I wasn't attracted to him and it hurt his self esteem and feelings. I inadvertently made him feel broken and wrong the same way others made me feel. And I do love him dearly, I'm not aromantic in slightest (you could probs could consider me a bit hyper homoromantic lmao), but sex is important for him as a person and that's valid too.
So we had to have a few serious conversations about our wants and needs and boundaries, and come up with solutions and ground rules for ourselves. We found that a kind of casual open relationship is what works for us. That way he can go fuck like he wants to and he wouldn't be asking me to do something I cannot, but also that he feels good about himself and can express his sex drive bc that's important to him. There's a sense of understanding between us now and we're open about everything. He'll usually tell me about what happened when he gets home and we'll gossip and talk shit. It's a very casual thing.
It's made our relationship stronger actually and brought us closer. He frequently comes home from a hook up and tells me how much better I am than them and how grateful he is for me (reaping the benefits of that post-nut clarity i guess). We affirm each other's identities and feelings. I've even gotten adventurous and watched a few times, and that was cool. We used it as an opportunity to grow as a couple and as people.
idk I guess what I'm saying is that everyone is different and every relationship is different. I'm sure my story sounds sweet to some and totally pathetic and weird to others, but it doesn't matter what other people think. We forged our own solution and we do us and we've been together for almost 10 years now.
I think sexuality and romanticism being seen as a spectrum is a really useful tool for communication. Like without an understanding of that framework, I feel like it could have turned into a situation where he becomes frustrated or resentful towards me and/or I push myself to do something I'm not comfortable with and get hurt. We were able to learn a lot about ourselves and I think that's great.
Probably just the fantasy and fictional aspect. I find myself enjoying written smut more than art because I get to imagine how things are played out, while real life stuff just annoys me. Kind of like imagining action scenes and writing them, in real life most of us would be terrified but it’s super suspenseful and exciting in a story.
As an ace artist, I think you covered this topic well! I have thought of most of this before and I think a lot of people who aren't ace don't get this. 😅 So I appreciate you taking the time to explain it on YT.
Nice to see the spectrum of people represented. I wish I could show this to my 13 yrear old self
I'm aro ace and never really felt like i was broken and was quiet vocal how i didn't like seeing kisses on tv and was soo happy when the movie Brave came out because she didn't end up with anyone
Love your videos, love your artwork! Thanks for the great content :^)
As a demisexual/romantic artist, what I love about erotic/nsfw pieces is depicting the emotional connection.
Fluidflux here! [Sex Positive] I very much enjoy drawing/writing spicy art/fics for characters I connect with. For me its like 85% about the emotional connect between the two participants - the surrendering so to speak.
The other 15% is kinky indulgence, but also education. When I write my stories, I make sure its natural, but that important topics like enthusiastic consent, protection and health are peppered in.
Its funny cause I can watch a porn, and just sit there and disect it for my art/fic being like 'Okay yeah, legs can only bend so far- like an educational tool' when im in the mindframe to do art... but then I can egage the side of indulgence and be like 'oh this is hot'
But I can definitely that at one point, I really did think for years something was wrong with me because of my 'swinging sexual moods'... like I was somehow broken. Then I did some research and it literally had me in tears that I wasnt broken, I just fell into a very weird place.
Great video! Gonna work on some more (safe) pride art here shortly. Happy Pride!
As an aegoromantic aegosexual, it’s cool that you made a video on this! Many allosexual/alloromantic people generally assume that all aces/aros are the same, even to the point of thinking that aromantic and asexual are the same thing. Showcasing the different reactions, feelings, and opinions that ace and aro people can have towards sex and romance is extremely important. I have a bunch of ace friends, but none of them act or think exactly the same when it comes to talking or thinking about sex. A good analogy I always use when explaining the a-spec to people is that sex and romance are like donuts. The majority of people eat the donuts, can taste them, and enjoy them, but some people eat the donuts less often. Or others can’t taste the donuts. Others don’t like the donuts. Others can’t taste them but like to eat them. And others, like me, don’t eat the donuts and can’t taste them, but appreciate the craftsmanship put into the donut and like how it looks. It’s a very broad spectrum, and that’s why it’s great!
Ahhh I want to start off that I LOVE your avatar, she’s ADORABLE!! Now, I’m not comfortable at the thought of getting physical with someone (I will never unless I deeply love him, because I’m technically demiromantic- I need a deep emotional connection first), because I’m naturally reserved and shy, so I’m not a physical person, but I’m not revolving that part of me as an identity (I find that so strange). Side note, yes I’m Hetero, female, I enjoy nsfw art and smut fics, and I rolled with the marriage first aspect growing up, but also the concept of saving myself made me feel more comfortable too. Which is why I’ll never understand why people look down on virginity, when it’s my body and I’ll decide to do what makes ME comfortable.
As an Ace who enjoys lewd art & roleplay we view sex the same way as we view people speed running a video game. The techniques are mechanically interesting to watch, but that doesn't mean we're interested in setting any world records ourselves.
I am pansexual, not ace, but i did figure that out until my sophomore year of college. One of the friends i had, she would specifically start with drawing people naked to make sense of where fabric falls on them when going over. I always found that interesting cuz it made so much sense.
Honestly that got me to try drawing nudity for the first time & one thing i gotta say about NSFW artist is that anatomy skills are on a whole other level. Just drawing two people standing next to each other was a struggle for me trying to depict details & curves in the body. The fact that they are THAT good at pose drawing is something to be respected.
I'm a homoromantic ace demi-girl, and I recently wrote a sweet and spicy post-show Owl House fanfic.
While I have no interest in sexual activity myself, but like it in concept, anything it's valid to use it as an expression of love.
I wanted to write a story about a young adult couple's first time, and all the messy, awkward emotions that come with it.
I wanted to capture a spicy story that was more artful and honest, which I hope I managed to capture!
I'm demisexual demiromantic(?) (with basically zero friends) and when I was in middle school there came a time when it seemed like absolutely *everyone* in my class started talking about crushes and dating and of course about s_ex (and also r*pe 0-0) while I was there thinking about drawing my MLP OCs, so it felt like I was the only person who didn't get "the joke". Only a couple years after that I realized why it was like that.
I personally think spicy artworks are really cool and I like looking at them in a more aesthetic way uwu
Thank you so much for this! I'm gray-ace myself and pretty open about it with friends, which leads to a lot of confusion around my spicier works. I find it funny and will absolutely make jokes at my own expense, but I've also never felt anything but natural about it. It just fit, it made sense. But listening to this I think I can better identify why that was.
I had very little desire to pursue those sorts of things in reality, but creating art was a much more comfortable and distant outlet. But I'm also guilty of being one of those people who definitely looked way more into the technical aspects than the creator of those pieces probably intended. :P
And of course, it's a heck of a challenge anatomically. A great way to keep myself from getting complacent in that area.
This was awesome to hear. I have a few aro ace friends and this is awesome for me. I'm so glad there are resources like this so I can better learn about this amazing community!!! Super cool collab!!
Interesting and aesthetically pleasing poses for me, personally.
i'm not ace (bi instead) but i've occasionally been drawn to the idea of drawing spice because at times i get really hellbent on human anatomy
I'm a demi/homoromantic ace (on the repulsed side) and I am so grateful you covered this topic. The misconception that all aroace people are sex repulsed is the most annoy thing I have ever seen. I have many aroace friends and all of them are different. Some find spicy stuff FUNNY and will actively seek it out. Some get fictional crushes and draw ship art of themselves and that character and find spicy jokes really funny. And some are completely disgusted by the mere mention of romantic or spicy stuff and will avoid it. And guess what, they're all aroace.
I personally am an aroace who can handle romantic stuff as long as it's not kissing (that makes me uncomfortable) but cannot create it myself without feeling a bit ick. I make sus jokes, but the actual idea of it makes me incredibly uncomfortable and disgusts me. Sometimes I do have sus thoughts and they make me uncomfortable.
I actively dislike it when people call stuff "ace friendly" when referring to it being without spicy stuff because ace people actually do enjoy that stuff. I hope people would actually educate themselves more on the subject of the ace spectrum and not go "Oh your ace, you must hate all this stuff".
Thank you to whoever's reading this and have a good day.
Im really glad that the nuances of Aspec are being normalised and openly discussed and embraced recently. Their used to be so much gatekeeping and infighting in the community about what was or wasn't ace. We're starting to find language that lets us discuss and include everyone who feels a need to identify and thats really heartwarming. Everyone is unique and its awesome to see the community becoming even more inclusive every day.
As an aroace, it's because I do whats I wants lol.
In all seriousness though, I don't really draw lewd things much, but I agree that someone's sexuality dont gotta affect what they want to make art of.
(Good Video Btw!!!)
I've always found some attraction in spicy art, especially when it can communicate well as an illustration. I'll doodle conventionally attractive figures all the time in various states of clothedness - but I identify much more on the gray/demiace side of things around people. I find that I like suggestiveness and kink more than anything explicit, which is a strange bias, but I think it's actually because the drawings tend to be stronger in that context. When it's an explicit pose, in most cases it tends to start looking clinical to me - the nature of the genre mandates that it show *everything*, and that overrides a lot of other artistic decisions and turns it into a checklist. The good stuff does overcome that, but it's not actually that common to see it. Or maybe my standards are too high.