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- Опубликовано: 21 апр 2020
- #Woodworking #moisture #design
I live by my moisture meter it is a very important part of your design and build process ..
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Bloody Hell man, I was perfectly content with my $700+ Delmhorst kit from my structural drying days, but you have to be very careful with woods over an inch thick with the sensor or you can overdry a floor or some custom furniture/table, etc the client has in the same room.
This really does give you much better data.
Hey Andy, Thanks for the info on these, I lost my one and I was wondering again what to go for, sound out, man 👍🇮🇪
Thank you good video I just bought the Wagner 910
I need a new moisture meter, will take a look at this one.
Hello i am from Brazil! I like your videos!
Hey Andy, new to serious timber furniture making. Have just designed and constructed an impressive 2*1m * 50mm thick kitchen table from Holme Oak. Slabs were 70-80mm thick and had been air and kiln dreid for nearly two years (apparently!). Now that the table has been in the kitchen for a month or so, the breadboard ends indicate that the main body has shrunk ~ 8mm. This is not a major problem as I can refinish the width/ends to bring it all back into shape, but I am surprised just how much it has moved. I was expecting it to move a little and allowed 5mm, but 8mm and ongoing......this has shown just how niave I have been. I did not check the actual moisture content, but did notice 'steam' when milling out some of the mortices and sockets. I sincerely hope that it settles down during the summer .....arrrrrh. Live and learn hey !
Sorry to hear mate , I would say 70-80mm would need 3/4 year air dry min!! If you had a basic kiln or place to leave the slab for 2 months before your build (inside or a warm stable place) that would help
i bought an old wagner after watching a peter parfit video. Love it really useful. Looks absolutely Beamish compared to yours mind.
I was so curious about this Moisture Meter and I was able to decide after watching your video. Thank you, I will subscribe to your channel. I want to be your friend.
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Shit me!! I was about to put that yellow and grey one on my basket on Amazon as I need to test the moisture in my wood splits for my BBQ I'm removing that tester from my cart ASAP. Gonna see how much that Merlin and Wagner are. Thanks for this man. The readings was too far off for me to even consider still getting that £30 one
It will be fine for test wood for burning ! :)
@@ManorWood wow thanks for the reply I'll add it back to my cart then! The guvnor has spoken!! 🕺🏾
Wagner Orion 950 is around £600 but Wagner doesn't ship to UK.
Hi good video what's the exact wagner model thanks
Great video. Is that blue one the same as the Felder branded one?
Yes, it is!
Vey interesting. I question the expensive Wagner meter's accuracy. I went to their manual and they make no claim about measurement accuracy, just resolution in the reading, which is not related. They might be accurate. They even have a calibration procedure and plate, but the plate is only good for the one meter, which is also strange. why wouldn't a standard be a standard for all meter serial numbers? It would be nice to be able to use an industry standard item to test and see, like most test instruments (like a 10% moisture and a 25% in some density product).
Why does everyone seem to accept the accuracy of any of the meters that they test. There should be a sample taken and dried completely for the moisture to be determined then the accuracy of the meter would be assured. I run dry kilns years ago and we had to do it both ways. We used a probe meter for a general idea then ran the autoclave weight test to be assured that the wood was dry.
I’m a wood machinist by trade and Trada state anything below 8% is to dry to use and anything over 15% is to wet to machine. Although it’s not furniture we are machining it’s more doors and stair cases etc
10% to 12% its good for the UK , 9% is about as low as I have seen like this Walnut next to a boiler for 2 years ! don't think it could get much lower
The only wood I have ever seen lower than 8% is Accoya which is a tremendous wood for exterior use
Usefull video Andy. I wanted to buy a 950 but it looks like I have to pay import duties once the product is at customs. Do you know if Wagner has a European distributor? Thanks, I keep watching your videos
US only , I paid import it’s a pain
@@ManorWood Thank you for your reply. Bad news, indeed.
Something like $130 UK import duty. The taxman thief never sleeps. "Oh, I see you need a tool there? You better pay me a day worth of working for it you filthy peasant!"
Hi,
Ive recently purchased the extech m0257 pinless m/m which measures a depth from 20mm to 40mm.
I've recieved some kiln dried Yew wood from a trusted supplier that is 50mm thick showing 25% & checking other woods around the house, a lot seem to be around 15%.
Is it possible I am getting this reading as the m/m reads from 20mm to 40mm instead of have the neat feature of the wagner that let's you adjust the depth it reads?
I don’t know that meter, 40mm sound deep for a wood painless meter !! What problem do you think you have ? I live in the UK and all wood (oak) in my home reads between 11 and 13%. From 16c tables to 10 year old oak window frame
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@@ManorWood I have thought this since buying it. I don't have the budget to buy the wagner, as much as I would like to, so I tried to find an alternative that wasn't too cheap to get an accurate reading.
It does range from 20mm to 40mm but without being able to set the depth in which I am reading it's almost a guess game.
Can I ask what depth you would normally check the moisture content of some 50mm Yew please?
So Wagner is 20mm max or 19mm to be precise. So with a 50mm slab I set to max and Measure top and on the side . In theory there is 10mm missing from the measurement, are u pouring resin ? Are u in the UK ?
@@ManorWood That would explain why I'm getting a confusing measurement from this meter then.
I am yes, I'm going to start with a chopping board, something small to start with as I know from doing research that there's a lot to get right for the resin to look its best.
I'm a midlander too 😊 I'm from the West Midlands. I was actually going to message you to ask which part of the Midlands you are from, as I've seen in a previous video you mentioned about possibly selling some wood in the future
I am from London , but now live in Ludlow. And love it . I would say watch all my vids on resin what you need (in the UK ) is all there , use GlassCast and you can’t go wrong , I see lots of RUclips videos some are helpful some are not!!!!
Where can you buy the wagner meter in the UK?
Order mine from the US online
I've just acquired a decent meter with twin pads and attains a good depth for readings. It also has multi selection for timber species. However certain uk species aren't specified, any suggestions on which to select for species yew or eucalyptus for example?
Wagner sent my a list of the numbers you use you uk wood .
Hello mate. I want to ask about Price European walnut and oak for qubick meter? I ask because i thought about export from Poland to UK.
I have English Walnut which is not commercially available as there is so little of it its just a case of the odd tree turning up , if you have good stock and selection of Walnut email me some pictures and pricing details are on my web site Cheers
@@ManorWood thanks for answer
But what with oak? What price is for this timber?
are you in the UK
Yep
@@ManorWood NO USA
How 'smart' it is to compare pin and pinless moisture meters?? - completely useless