The BIG Debate: Top 10 Greatest Players Of All Time
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In my personal opinion, I think they should have used a bigger table.
Maybe the very large one the Labour Party claim to have left everything on. !!
It was a strangely small table.
ha ha ha yeah i agree or even smaller pieces of paper
😂😂😂
Lol
For entertainment value , a best of 39 match between Peter Ebdon vs Cliff Thorburn could take upwards of a couple of weeks playing 8 hrs per session .
A lot of 20p in the light
wow thorburn against ebdon... poor referee lol
Watching in the middle of lockdown so I would take this in a heartbeat
@@carlthrelfall8761 Ebdon vs Dott ..... best of 101 frame match like the old days!
I think that's enough to put anyone off snooker
Fantastic video, I'd love to see Davis and Hendry make their lists in a video like this.
Reardon at 53 beat Parrott at the Cruicible. In season 82/3 Reardon played White 4 times and defeated him 4 times. In season 78/9 and 79/80 Reardon played Davis 3 times and beat him 3 times. In 1988 in the British open a 56 year old Reardon hammered the reigning world champion Steve Davis 5-0. Two journalists with not much of a clue and a fine player and gentleman being overly respectful to his peers and fellow pundits. Reardon was an even better player before he turned pro. Clive Everton is the only man qualified to make a list such as this.
Calm down lad, it's only a bit of fun!
100% I agree with you.
This is way off. Reardon played White 9 times-Reardon won 4 and lost 5. Also, Reardon played Davis 17 times-Reardon won 7 and lost 10. And although you are correct that Reardon beat Davis 5-0 in 88', you don't, however, mention that Davis beat Reardon a year earlier in the 1987 World Championship 13-4 (Davis went on to win the tournament). Not to mention numerous accusations against Reardon of gamesmanship. One example being when he asked the referee to re-rack the red balls 6 times!
About the only thing you got right is Reardon did play and beat John Parrott once. And let's face it, beating John Parrott is hardly a sign you're in the top 10 greatest snooker players of all time.
For me Stephen Hendry, Ronnie O'Sullivan and Steve Davis are the top 3...also Jimmy White should be in the top 10 list no doubt about that
Bingo, that's the right placing.
I agree, you can't put John Higgins above Steve Davis
@Wayne Anthony Holmes i agree O'Sullivan is the greatest but saying hendry is 5th is a bit far-fetched
I'd have agreed till this year. Ronnnie, Hendrry, Steve
@@plasticbudgie, 28 years for 6 world? 8 years of retirement from hendry of course other insignificant records will be rewrite. 10 years hendry had achieved all of that.
Ray Reardon won 6 world titles and they're discussing whether he's in the all-time top ten!
Madness!
Davis was the Hendry of his era. Didn't have Henry's flair but it was total domination. Crazy putting Higgins above him.
Sad to not see John Spencer in the list, the man created the modern day game.
The quality of opposition O Sullivan had in his career makes him the King. He had Hendry, Selby, Higgins, Williams to name just 4. That's 17 World titles between them 4 men alone. Throw in the others like Robertson, Trump, Murphy etc and it puts into perspective how awesome R.O.S. was and still is.
Ronnie maybe king. But not bcos of quality. He met Selby in WC final and lost. He did beat Higgins at the crucible final tho. Hendry's era was a lot tougher than ppl give him credit for and he played and defeated peak Williams and Higgins plenty of times too.
@@sugs1191 with all due respect Hendry beat Jimmy White for most of his titles. Yes White was talented but was a serial choker who wrote in his book he was always on the booze and drugs.
@@zonnyzunny not really. White was sober in the 90s. It was just his misfortune he was sandwiched between Davis Nd Hendry careers. With all due respect to Ronnie he beat DotT, Hawkins, Ali Carter in 3 of his finals - all decent butvery tame opponents in my eyes. I'd rate White and Ebdon much higher.
,zonny zunny, u had ur brain tested? Ronnie had hendry! Ronnie hasn't even got once in final for wsc in the 90s, he had full 8 years to do that but ronnie hasn't got once in the final in wsc. He has to has his hands and legs broken in order to drop his ranking in the 2000 Era that's what he said.
@@DavidDavid-yz2sh learn to speak english for fuck sake.
Funny to hear Dave's voice and see him talk at the same time :D
Alex Higgins should be one of the first players on the list. He dragged the game out of smokey clubs onto national television. Also Steve Davis once said that Alex was the only true genius to play snooker.
McManus' cravat should've made the list.
He's a suave bloke. Hasn't aged much at all.
The greatest, who transended the sport, the most influential player, bringing in the modern game, which is declining now.
Alex Higgins. It was he that brought 18 million fans to watch finals.
Number one for sheer entertainment and compulsive viewing and without doubt, The Peoples Champion ,and the man who made them all millionaires, Alex Hurricane Higgins.Snooker is boring without him.
THE GREATEST! 100%. alex should be no,1.
Definitely number one most entertaining player ever couldn't take your eyes off him...RIP alex higgins
I would easily have Alex over Neil
@@andyhumphrey9351 by what metric?
Don’t they realise that Higgins won the title twice and was the youngest person ever!
Alex invented modern snooker! They're clueless!
Davis won more pro titles than ANYONE when there was less ranking titles to win
WHERE IS EFREN "THE MAGICIAN" REYES?
Efren is a pool player not a snooker
10 ranking wins .got to 6 world finals .filled venues out.loved by millions .a snooker legend 😘. White should be on the list no buts ☺
Ronnie o'sullivan is no doubt the greatest snooker player of all time. He broke every single record that hendry held bar the world titles. He is simply majestic
The 'greatest player' can be defined in different ways. One way would be that person most likely to beat his opponent or the one who won the highest percentage of matches. The following data is from Cuetracker.net omitting players who played in less than 200 matches (most omitted played far less): The top 10 here all played 800+ matches
O'Sullivan 75.2%
Trump 69.8%
J. Higgins 69.3
Hendry 68.9
Selby 68.3
Junhui 66.6
Robertson 65.8
Maguire 65.2
Murphy 64.9
Allen 64.8
note that positions 2 to 10 are within 5% points of each other; O'Sullivan is nearly 6 points higher than any of them - that, statistically, is a huge gap.
In case you wonder where the other 'great' players are here's a few former World Champ's:
S Davis 63.32
Parrott 59.8
Doherty 59.25
Griffiths 59.2
Ebdon 56.7
Reardon 55.8
A Higgins 55.4
wow Trump has gained 1,1% to 70,9% in the last 3-4 years
Efren Bata Reyes The One and Only GOAT 🐐 THE REST ARE JUST NATIONALITY GOAT CUZ THEY ARE BORN AMERICAN OR EUROPEAN 🙄. What a fcking shame
It is a snooker player not a pool
Retarded RUclips comment of the decade goes to you
I dont know why there was such a debate about reardon making the cut. I thought he was an absolute cert going by hes won more world titles than most on the list and was one of the dominant forces of snooker. Also had amazing longevity at the highest level
A fair comparison is difficult: Reardon and Spencer for example did not turn pro until aged 35 and 32 - there simply wasn't the living to be made before. O'Sullivan and Higgins etc were pro at age 16 so have had an awful lot more years to win stuff.
Good point - and sad that John Spencer and John Pulman weren't even mentioned.
I watched Higgins vs White in the Crucible semi-final of 82. That was snooker. Nothing I've seen since will ever compare.
Alex Higgins literally invented modern snooker and they're discussing whether to put him in the top ten!
Jimmy would agree with that selection of alex
Should make a top 10 natural ability list! not just based on titles and accolades. To me there most entertaining and exiting
1. Hendry 2. O'Sullivan 3. Higgins 4. S. Davis 5. Williams 6. Selby 7. Reardon 8. Robertson 9. Jimmy 10. Alex Higgins I'm amazed how underrated is Mark Selby, he's won the Triple Crown and has been number 1 for so long in the modern era of the game?!?
Henman5 he was only number 1 cos he won the world for 2 years running, he hasn’t won a ranking event for more than a season! He is only good in the worlds, take the world out of it and he is shit everywhere else 👍
Is that the John Higgins who wanted money to throw frames ?
Ray Finkle no Selby, he was pro for 4 years cos he won the world 3 times in 4 years, twice on the spin once, that the only reason
Hendry only won so much cause he played in a weak era.
Ronnie is no. 1 by far.
Higgins over Davis no chance
Steve Davis and Hendry should make a list.
No Higgins no snooker fact
And plays well with great interest, makes a very good betting, it will soon come to the first place in the world and keep it on its own.
The only debate here is where you put the other 9 players behind Ronnie. Facts
@@Geena-tn1pt Ronnie more titles Before he retires more centuries and more gifted and Hendry admitted ronnie was better than he was - Fact
@@Geena-tn1pt You're Deluded Fact .. All the top players including hendry Admit Ronnie is the best .. Ronnie won more UK's and masters has more centuries and a better head to head with 5 world titles to add on to that . Hendry wasn't naturally talented to play to these day's like Ronnie is that's why he Stopped playing😂 Facts
@@Geena-tn1pt hendry Also had it easier than Ronnie Facts had easier players facts
@@Delboy18675 Ronnie did say that Hendry was the greatest or something once. They've both called each other the best, it's a tough one to call, Hendry vs O'Sullivan in their primes? I think Ronnie edges it but it's a tough one
@@aspiknf Yeah Ronnie has won more and is the messi of snooker while hendry is like the ronaldo better than all of the footballers apart from god Messi that's the way I look at it .. Hendry 7 world titles
ronnie 5 is the only thing going for Hendry over ronnie apart from that which is obviously the best thing to win Ronnie wins everything has more uk, masters , centries etc etc is the more gifted .. But it's who ever you prefer really out of the 2 as it's close But Ronnie for me No contest
EFREN "BATA" REYES IS NOT GOAT , BUT THE GOD OF POOL
Go watch his videos then. Pool videos.
I would like to hear your top ten players that didn't win the world championships
1. O´Sullivan
2. Hendry
3. Higgins
4. Davis
5. Selby
6. Williams
I agree with the top 4
Top 3 : The Rocket , Hendry , Steve Davis
O'Sullivan, Hendry, Davis, J Higgins, Williams, Reardon, Selby, J Davis, White, Robertson. To be honest I might omit J Davis as he's so far prior to the modern game that he's difficult to compare.
You guys messed up by letting Robo’s one single achievement overshadow your good judgment!!
Davis 3 period. Case closed!!
And Robo over White?! Only because of the importance you place on WC!
White’s LEGENDARY overall career puts him in tenth place, but it’s crucial he’s there. When Robo retires in 19 more years then we can redo the list if he’s added anything.
But for God’s sake all Davis did in an era where there’s 6 tournaments a season for God’s sake man!! Higgins is playing for 25 years in an era where there’s a GD tournament every WEEK!! There’s like 45 ranking tournaments a year guys!!! So Robo’s “great” feat will soon be broken as well.
Davis WAS a trail blazer for his day! Cause without his greatness there’s no Hendry to gun for his records!!
Love ya all guys - cheers!!
(And fitting #1 so thanks!!) ❤️👏🇨🇦
Robertson has 18 ranking events, World, UK (twice), Masters and has been ranked in the top ten (mostly top 2/3) for 13 years now.
....and....prime Higgins beats prime Davis 9/10 times
Regardless of stats, there isn't 10 players at their best who were better than Jimmy White at his best...
@Monty Python the Flying Circus No. Only 4 of them were to that unknown Scottish player.
@Pam Doov If you're going to mention someone using the wrong word at least spell correctly. Learn not 'Lear'
alex was better.
my personal Top 10 would be this, based on most influential,
1. Ronnie O’Sullivan
2. Stephen Hendry
3. Steve Davis
4. John Higgins
5. Alex Higgins
6. Jimmy White
7. Mark Williams
8. Mark Selby
9. Ray Reardon
10. Joe Davis
A good list. I question John Higgins at 3. I can't forgive him for the match fixing claims. Jimmy White sold tickets, and an amazing talent. Surely 'box office' counts. I'd have Jimmy in there, and Higgins down at 9 or ten. John Pulman as a wild card, bridged the gap between eras of Joe Davis (1930's) and Fred in the 1950's. He dominated the sixties in a difficult era for snooker before the era of Ray Reardon and the advent of colour TV in the seventies.
My list:
1. Hendry
2. O'Sullivan
3. Steve Davis
4. Mark Williams
5. Alex Higgins
6. Selby
7. Jimmy White
8. Ray Reardon
9. Joe Davis
10. John Higgins
John Higgins is definitely third or fourth. He never fixed any match you idiot.
@@Revolver1981 He sure tried though. Have you even seen the tape? If that is a man in fear of his life and just saying whatever it takes to get out of the situation, I may have a bridge you might be interested in.
@@ColinFlowers Why do you think The News Of The World no longer exists? Because they were shut down because of their dodgy set ups. They were corrupt bastards trying to destroy Sports stars careers.
@@Revolver1981 Of course NOTW are scum. No-one will argue against that. JH was caught out fair and square and we all know it. He was let off to protect the sport.
@@Revolver1981 If the Guardian, or whoever else had it on tape, would you still be on his side?
I don’t no how to number these guys but these are the best players of all time
Alex Higgins, jimmy white, ray Reardon, Steve Davis, o Sullivan
I love Alex Higgins and has been my favourite since a young kid. But even though he made the game so to speak I think Reardon should be number one, he was unbelievable
Hates Ronny but now is my favourite
Alex is number one
Think that list might be a bit different if the titles were forgotten and it was decided on the best a player could play. Ronald still wins though.
Ronnie at his best v Hendry at his best, I'd pick Hendry. Hendry won seven world titles and dominated a period like no other player. Ray Reardon needs to be higher.
No way, Ronnie demolishes him.
Hendry won all his majors in a weak era. That's why he couldn't win any major titles after the age of 30.
@@michaeltrumph121 a so called weak era in which O Sullivan couldn't even make the finals of the WSC once.
@@sugs1191
O'Sullivan was just a kid back then.
Plus he had mental issues.
@@michaeltrumph121 a kid. Hendry won his first WC when he was just a kid and beat prime Davis a few times. Mental issues? Several players have issues and imo Ronnie was more sane back then, than he is now.
@@sugs1191
When the class of 92 turned 20, Hendry only managed to win 1 single major title, that says it all.
And despite the turmoils in his personal life, Ronnie still beat a prime Hendry in major finals.
Steve Davis has to be above Higgins. Dunno why the Williams debate was edited out because lobbing him in above Reardon and Joe Davis is a big call and the wrong one in my opinion. But a decent debate and good fun.
As a player he's much better than them and he's won all his title in the Ronnie-Hendry-Higgns era.
Reardon and Joe Davis, weak eras, that's why Williams is better
John Pullman has to be in this list
My top 10
Hendry,O'Sullivan Steve Davis Joe Davis,Ray Reardon,John Pullman
John Higgins Alex Higgins,John Spencer,Mark Williams
Ronnie “The Rocket” O’Sullivan is the undisputed No 1.
The most major titles, the most (by far) century breaks, the most maximum breaks, the best longevity, the most talented (plays right or left-handed), the most entertaining, and all done at lightning speed.
Most of the names mentioned are legends and less so, are geniuses.
Ronnie’s stats propel him to the top.
One name I don’t agree with is Peter Ebdon, seriously?
Most Centuries in a World Championship (16) Ron hasn't done that
Most Centuries compiled in one match (bo19) (7) Ron hasn't done that
Most World Titles (7) Ron hasn't done that Most World Finals (9) Ron hasn't done that
Most World Titles in a row (5) Ron hasn't done that
Most Matches won in a row at the crucible (29) Ron hasn't done that
Longest unbroken run inside the top 16 of the world rankings (23 seasons)
Youngest World Champion (21) Ron hasn't done that
Most Years Ranked Number One (9) Ron hasn't done that
Most Years in a row Ranked Number One (8) Ron hasn't done that
Only player to hit a 147 at the one table setup at the crucible theatre Ron hasn't done that
& completely changed the way snooker was played Can't say the same for Ron.
There's quite a lot of records Ron doesn't have there. Hendry is the greatest
Until O'Sullivan wins 8(it won't happen), Hendry is the greatest ever
and another one Highest potting % for a World Championship (94%) Ron hasn't done that
@@mancordo3151 wow, you win for list of arbitrary facts that couldn't mean less of they tried. Well done
personally good list defo agree with top 5. but Jimmy White should be in top 10 I feel. Its difficult to compare different eras. Matthew Stevens should have at least made 20 and possibly even 10 was close on multiple occasions under achieved for sure.
@robert dawson I think at his best he would beat Fred and Joe Davis and Bingham and Doherty and few other former world champions.
Top 5 is wrong, prime Davis beats prime Higgins so they should switch places. Jimmy should have made the top 10, Matthew Stevens was a great player - average now - but top 20 is a stretch.
@Eric Lewis Also very close and unlucky not to win them both and also made few semi finals too
Matthew stevens? Give me peace
Matthew Stevens is my all time favourite player and i hate how sometimes he seems to be forgotten in history.
UK Champion
Masters Champion
2 World Championship Finals (Should have won both)
6 World Championship Semi-Finals
3 UK Championship Finals
Stats aside just one look at the era he played in and the players he was competing for trophies with to still do that well means that absolutely Matthew Stevens deserved atleast a mention but i gotta agree with you, with his obvious natural talent he SHOULD have been Top 20 but his lack of bottle & mental toughness (again i say this as a long term fan of his) His blown leads especially at The Crucible are infamous, he will unfortunately go down as someone who although done reasonably well was more often than not the nearly man and a player who in the end failed to live up to their massive early promise and potential. So yeah Top 30 for me too but not 20.
Dott i agree with simply for his 3 finals which puts him above Bingham for me but Top 20 i'm not too sure about. Hunter as good a player as he was and incidently was best friends with Stevens i don't think as an overall player was better than Stevens.
I really don't know why but it annoys me how somehow like Bingham a journeyman for the first 15 years of his career has been World Champion and the likes of Jimmy White & Stevens haven't, taking nothing away from him credit where credit is due but it seems a travesty to me.
Modern era is clearly Ronnie, Hendry, Steve Davies.
Reardon of the older era but Snooker wouldn't be where it is without Alex Higgins. Nobody stays up late watching Peter Ebdon vs Ali Carter.
It's about Characters plus talent for me.
Sorry am I missing something here. How is Steve Davis below John Higgins again?
Because John Higgins is a better a snooker player
@@Andy-Bodhi No
A lot of recency bias here. Higgins ahead of Steve Davis (the man who is synonymous with snooker) is a travesty.
ipseite switch Davis & Higgins and the list is close. It’s harsh not including Jimmy when he got to 6 world finals.
Hardly a travesty. Higgins has won more ranking titles and is a far better player than Davis ever was. Not to say Davis wouldn't have still been a consistent winner now. You can only play to your era but Higgins' best is definitely superior to Davis'
Clint MacLeod Jimmy is one of the most consistent players to pick up a cue regardless of his world championship defeats.When you look at the titles he's won and the finals and semi finals he has been in and the amount of seasons he was in the top 16 it is remarkable,at the moment he is 10th in the all time ranking event list and I think he won something like 30 professional titles.He was an underachiever in terms of his ability but still deserves to be in the top 10 but I didn't take this list serious it was just a bit of fun.
@@christopherpenny7925 You can only play your era says it all. "Is a far better player" is an absurd way to assess these matters because going forward anyone will be a better player. Higgins has only won 3 UK and 2 Masters, the rest of his resumé is padded with tournaments Davis never even had the chance to play in back in the day. And you can't put aside the intangibles when talking about Davis. Steve Davis was a far more important personality for snooker than Higgins (who even has disreputable behaviour tainting his legacy), he is synonymous with the sport itself.
@@ipseite 'going forward everyome will be a better player' - exactly. When I see these sorts of conversations I believe they should be categorised.
1) Top ten most important players in snooker history.
2) Top ten snooker players in history.
Davis is ahead of Higgins in the first, Higgins ahead in the second.
There is no disputing Higgins best solely as a player is better than Davis'. Davis himself even says his best game would make him a top 16 player these days, but not a top 8.
I agree with you in some aspects, I just always look at these discussions solely on standard of play.
There would be no Ronnie O'Sullivan, Mark Williams or nail Robertson if it wasn't for Alex Higgins. The 5 most talented players were Hendry Ronnie Alex Jimmy and Judd.
Maybe you're right but still he was not that brilliant as a complete snooker player. I am sure there might have been someone else coming with crazy shots and attitude who would have inspired a whole new generation of snooker players as Alex did. In that time that figure happened to be Alex Higgins. Nothing to take away from him but I think that in a sense of reinventing the game of snooker Hendry, Steve Davis and Sullivan were the innovators of the snooker we know today. Of course Joe Davis, Ray Reardon, Alex Higgins etc. should be mentioned in this process but every player has brought something of their own for the snooker.
Shame he was taken so young. Paul Hunter would have been on this list. The greatest world Champion in waiting.
So true
Nice to see Dave Hendon in the flesh!
In fairness to Shaun Murphy, you have left out a triple crown winner!
Smurphy is the luckiest triple crown winner there's been (although I detest the new brand triple crown - it was invented by the BBC to "big up" their own events after they axed the old Grand Prix). He should've lost the 2005 World final but Stevens handed it to him. He should've lost the 2008 UK final against Fu but fluked the match ball pink. The only one he deserved was the 2015 Masters. He showed his true colours when he got the referee to dock Maguire a frame.
Alex Higgins created the conditions for snooker to thrive in the 80's, Davis made it a more professional sport and set the bar, Hendry raised it and White entertained throughout.
My 1 -10 would be
Hendry just a beast and virtually unbeatable in his prime
O Sullivan (most talented)
Steve Davis
Joe Davis (created the shots everyone uses)
Alex Higgins
John Higgins
Ray Reardon
Mark Williams
Jimmy White
Mark Selby
That is not a bad list, not at all..
Far too biased to the past .. much easier to succeed in the earlier less professional era. No one pre 70s can possibly rank.
@@jsquire5pa I believe the list is greatest of all time, not the best technical list, the players I have listed all had great achievements, had huge influence on the game or actually propelled it into the spotlight.
Peak Ronnie beats peak Hendry.
Hendry only won so much cause he played in a weak era.
@I'm just a worm
_Hendry and Ronnie played in the same era though_
Not exactly, Hendry turned pro in 85, Ronnie in 92.
_The years prior to Ronnie, Hendry had to play against the likes of Jimmy White, Steve Davis, John Parrot and Dennis Taylor. How is that weak exactly?_
Davis was past his prime.
Parrott was good, but he's not at the same level as Ding, Trump, Robertson, Selby, etc.
Taylor is a joke, most players nowadays would mop the floor with him.
Even I would beat him.
_We'll never really know the answer to who beats who at their peak_
Yes we have, it's Ronnie. The eye test clearly shows that. Hendry is roughly at the same level in terms of potting and breakbuilding, but Ronnie is far superior in terms of safety and tactical play.
_When they did play in finals I think Ronnie has two up against Hendry but some of those were played in the latter half of Hendry's career and the former half of Ronnie's._
They never met when both were in their prime.
Steve Davis should be third in my opinion.
O Sullivan has to be the greatest of all time on longevity alone and the fact he dominated as the world's best for 20 years and first won UK in 1993 and his last tournament win in December 2021
I think O'Sullivan is the best but he never dominated for a sustained period the way Hendry or Davis did.
Ronnie,Hendry,Higgins,Davis, Selby, Williams
Stephen Hendry will always be my number 1
Tavy@ For me the top 3 of all time based on awards is ronnie osullivan, stephen hendry, and steve davis. And i also have to put Alex higgins on that simply becouse he was a natural that put snooker on the tv and more, 40 year ago. just watch the man then decide! There is just so many to pick from its almost impossible now!!!!!
John Higgins has won 30 ranking titles in the era of Ronnie O'Sullivan. He would've been the best player of all time and the most dominant player in the history if it wasn't for the rocket. I think Higgins is #2. Stephen Hendry won all of his titles in a span of 10 years when Higgins has made it to three consecutive world final in his 40s.
Agreed 100%
Still a very valid ranking today. Judd still is well behind Robbo or Alex Higgins. That continuous coughing of Alan, though...
Wonder how good Paul Hunter would be if he lived to this day....
Shit another Matthew Stevens
@@nikkigeer4614 fucking loser
Patsy Houlihan v Alex Higgins would be entertaining. Jimmy to play the winner.
1. Hendry - more bottle than Ronnie
2. O'Sullivan
3. Davis (S) - dominated the 80's
4. Higgins (A) - changed the game
5. Davis (J) - developed the game
6. Robertson - Unique talent
7. Selby - Mr Consistent in a tough era
8. Reardon - the man to beat in the 70's
9. Trump - could improve the standard yet again
10. Charlton - none steadier than Eddie
Where's John Higgins on your list you stupid idiot? John Higgins is the third greatest of all time behind O'Sullivan and Hendry.
And Selby is 5th and Williams is probably 4th.
@@Revolver1981 where's Joe Davis on your list pal, is he in the top 200? No? fucking quarterwit
@@quick46 😂😂😂
@@quick46 he didnt need to be insulting but neither did you. You does have a point. Peak A game Higgins is almost unplayable. Only Ronnie and Judd could compete. Hendry would fold
Ronnie O'Sullivan jimmy white and alex higgins could watch them all day long the rest send me too sleep
Higgins and White were the influencers on the attacking players of today so how can both not be in the top 10. Selby, Williams and Robertson in front of both? If they are judging on world titles then Graeme Dott is a higher ranked player than Jimmy.
I agree if there going off world titles then what about John Pullman,Fred Davis, Joe davis They all won a lot more than any of them.... you can't just decide what year to start the count from
Even Nigel Bond should have been in the top 10 :-)
John Parrott & Ken Doherty can take a back seat
O'Sullivan is the GOAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Efren bata reyes will kill your goat🤣🤣🤣
@@SnookerIsRonnie even snooker efren bata reyes will crash your snooker player
@@SnookerIsRonnie😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Ronnie O'Sullivan is the best snooker player ever
36 ranking titles
147 - (15 times)
Century breaks - 1009
Nope that's over the period of 20 over years, hendry has long achieved all that feat. Of course for 1009 centuries hendry had already retire at 2012. Nobody is interested in this record, it's the world championship title that's the real deal.
@@DavidDavid-yz2sh I disagree. Are there some different players in the wsc that don't enter other tournaments? No! So Ronnie's masters record is better then...so what? They played each other 56 times. Ronnie won 31. Hendry 20 with 5 a draw. Hendry says himself that ronnie is the best. As does virtually every other player. The left handed thing is huge too. I love Hendry. Amazing player, but he is no Ronnie O'Sullivan!
@@DavidDavid-yz2sh he retired because apart from 1990's he has done nothing. Ronnie has best winning percentage .. 1 more triple crowns .. more ranking titles , more centuries , more maximium .. hendry hold just 2 more world championships. Nothing else he has above ronnie
@Bach Wagner, to all who debutted me, ronnie had said it himself, the most challenging match is to played against Stephen hendry which he lost to, and Ron said it himself that it won't happen again when he walk out from the U. K MASTERS against hendry 4-1 down to hendry a match race to 9. Like I had always said world championship title is the most important title in snooker world, of course which hendry had retired in 2012, centuries, UK titles and the rest will be slowly be override by Ron. It's the world title that's speaks volume. Not taking anything away from ronnie the goat, he is still the man to be beat today. But for comparison in this way, it's not right. Hendry has done it all in 10years period. Being the youngest WORLD SNOOKER CHAMPION, guess ronnie will never be able to do it. But let's see if ronnie can do it the oldest champion in these new decades. Good day.
@@Andy-Bodhi, I don't really see ur point in other snooker tournaments, all I can say is would u consider jimmy white or ding junhui is the best player in snooker history without winning any world snooker title??? Jimmy white had just won a senior world snooker title, isn't that important to him? Wat do u think? Imagine this ok ding junhui is in top 10.lmao
Having watched snooker since the mid-1980's, I agree with this ranking. Steve Davis was my hero in the beginning, and now Ronnie O'Sullivan is the one player I enjoy watching, win or lose. He just brings that "extra" to the game. When he looks at the spread of the balls after the opening break, it is as if he can see the entire sequence of the potting process, if each shot goes well. And, of course, he is also a crowd-pleaser. I wonder if there are any records of spectator attendance when he is participating compared to when he is absent from a tournament? As an aside, I think Alex Higggins might have achieved a higher status had he not struggled with other issues; and I think Paul Hunter would have been on this list had he not died at such a young age (this reflection coming from a senior citizen!). I offer an honourable mention to Cliff Thorburn, one of the few Canadian players in this era, and the first one to pot a 147 at the Crucible!
No jimmy white !!!! And alex Higgins number 10 😮
bigbifter I totally agree . They put that bent cunt John Higgins in there though
Alex Higgins won the triple crown of events in an era with some decent guys, Davies for one, players who were master tacticians like Thorburn and Spencer, Reardon, Terry Griffiths and not to mention Steve Davies. Jimmy White for me played in the weakest era with only Stephen Hendry as the main man and with a lot of other high ranked players who were not tactical players nor was it the very best era of break building. Look at the quality of players now who are at the age of Jimmy White in those world title finals with Hendry. They would win him most times too. Hendry had to retire early as his game just did not stack up with the modern, tactical, all round players who have no real weakness and are also superb break builders.
@@wad6216, no weakness??? U must be blind. Then why ding is 0 world titles? Jimmy 0 world titles? Make it easy for u to understand, if PETER EBDON could even won one title in these so called strong Era, why Peter could not even win one in the weak Era???? Break building means good player? Guarantee title?? No.
@@DavidDavid-yz2sh A lot of players from the old era did not have the break building prowess of a modern player, faster cloths and better tables and cue actions have helped, but none the less the modern game is a break building one. But all that said the players have to have good safety or they would never win a match in this era. Ding is just up against a lot of good players with great break building, tactical and top temperaments. Jimmy White would loose all his finals to Ding just like he did to Hendry, The tactical side of the game and safety play is much more aggressive now too. Hendry would come out with maybe a title or two tops in this era at his
very best
@@wad6216, u better read up history or watch ur history boy, hendry is a master of break building, he is the main man who brought attacking snooker in to the modern Era. That's why he is the king, in china they called hendry the emperor. From blue ball splits the red is being played by Stephen hendry where all the weak player in the 200o Era has learn from him. Ronnie is here only to speed up the game, trust me hendry is pretty fast a player himself if he wants to.
Anyone who is good enough to be the best in his era would be one of the best in any era. I would love to see how much better Ray Reardon and the two Davis's would have been if they had the chance to turn professional as teenagers like the other seven players did. I would have Steve second only to the rocket and for his tactics and temperament, I would have Ray higher as well.. Remember that Ray took Ronnie under his wing and made him a much better all-round player.
Ray Readon should have been one of your first choices !!!! How can you have ranked Reardon at number 6 but struggled to have put him in the top 10?
I put o'sullivan & hendry = 1st well matched
Ray reardon & Steve davis joint 2nd.
Alex Higgins & jimmy white joint 3rd.
John Higgins & mark williams joint 4th.
John Spencer 5th.
Joe Davis 6th.
Robertson Murphy 7th
Paul hunter 8th (god bless him)
Cliff thorburn 9th
Judd trump 10th
Mark dead slowby 11th
Enough said.
@@leebeardshall2888 Selby has to be higher especially now with another World's
Higgins is a maverick 1 of a kind
Are you guys taking the piss?? You threw Jimmy white out and diliberated over Ray reardon and alex?? This is a piss take, surely. Neil Robertson over Fred Davis?? In 50 years, Fred will be known and Selby, Robertson will be footnotes
Where's Efren "The Magician" Reyes?
I think they discussed about snooker playersbro not a pool player
Playing a different sport lmao
The magician not included here coz his not their level at all
I think snooker player not pool player
Its because snooker is not pool. are u stupid?
Everything else I agree with but how the fuck is jimmy white not in the top 10?!!! 6 world final, 30 ranking events, class act!!
How can the outlaw Joey Swales not be in the top 5 players.
John pullman
Turned the debate off after 5 minutes. Talking nonsense for the most part. Dominated by BBC stats about century breaks. Don't these men know that instead of tournaments in the 70's and before the players made their money in challenge matches. They were just as competitive as tournaments as the winner of the match got more money. Alex Higgins made over 300 competitive centuries by the time he was 22. And anyone who saw Reardon play and can appreciate snooker would have him very high on the list. To have Neil Robertson higher than john spencer on the basis that he made 100 centuries in a season is laughable.
@Eric Lewis did you ever see John Spencer play in his prime?
Not a BBC debate you idiot.
I always prefer prime Williams over prime Higgins.
Graham Miles. Back to back Pot Black champion!
And they never tire on the telly saying Graham Miles won The Masters without making a 50 break...
@@irnickkkknowles that's Perry Manns
Robertson and Selby in top 10 over jimmy white. what a shambles
yes imagine him being being a multiple world champion
@Eric Lewis but dude selby is a multiple winner of the worlds but robertson only has 1 win, dude jimmy played with flair, people loved watching him play, but he was in 6 world finals not 1. it is criminal he was not in the top 10.
@Eric Lewis agreed, But the list wasnt made up of abilty. Otherwise Jimmy would have easily trumped Joe Davis. He may be the godfather of snooker and have 15 world titles but the standard of play wouldnt compete with Jimmy. So this is my point. The list wasnt made up how you just described it. So it is criminal for Jimmy not to be top 10. The dude was in 6 world finals playing attractive attacking snooker. lol
Ohh C'mon, where is "the magician" Efren "Bata" Reyes???
@@sniperm14 when?what tournament?
Its snooker not pool.. understand.?
Honestly, I would put Steve Davis in 3rd.
Nope. Higgins is better than he was. So is Selby and Williams.
Michael Trumph yeah and Higgins wanted money to throw frames he should not be anywhere near that table
Yeah Davis was the Henry of his era. He didn't have Henry's flair but he was that kind of player that was so dominant the result was a foregone conclusion most of the time and people kinda got sick of him winning. Definitely above Higgins.
@@rayfinkle2805 he discussed it. Doesn't affect ability at all...
Where are we ranking Dennis Taylor?
John Virgo should have been in the pile.
Agreed. He won the UK title in 1979, so that gets him in the top ten.
@@JohnSmith-su3ze He beat Steve Davis on the way and had to give Terry Griffiths two frames start in the final. His finest hour was never televised due to a strike.
Ronnie is awesome, but i think its very fashionable at the moment to be regarding him as the very best there has been to date, and was predictable before watching, its like automatically no one else had a chance
he has won more silverware than anyone else... so surely that automatically makes him numero uno
Steve Davis 3rd all day long
For me Stephen Hendry is The GOAT
Stephen Hendry, Ronnie O'Sullivan, Mark Selby and Ding Junhui are the only players to win five ranking titles in the same season.
Ronnie, Mark and Ding did it when there where 20 ranking titles available.
Hendry did it when there where only 13 ranking titles available.
Also:
Ten players have completed a career Triple Crown, having won each of the Triple Crown events at least once. These players are Steve Davis, Terry Griffiths, Alex Higgins, Stephen Hendry, John Higgins, Mark Williams, Ronnie O'Sullivan, Neil Robertson, Mark Selby and Shaun Murphy. Only Davis, Hendry and Williams have won all three Triple Crown events in the same season, and Hendry is the only player to achieve this feat twice.
Also:
It took Ronnie 25 years to achieve his 19 ranking titles while it took Hendry only 10 years.
Also:
I mean five consecutively world titles for Hendry, he was world number one for eight consecutively years
Also Ronnie had problems mentally and would win more if he hadn't
Ronnie is a completely different level to Hendry. The ultimate G.O.A.T
Thanks for another arbitrary sbooker list. Brill
The comment about the different playing conditions (thicker cloths, heavier balls) that one of them made needs to be given more weight in my opinion. They're all riding the sports hype gravy train though so it's in their interests to over-emphasise modern players and wax lyrical about how hard the modern era is in relative terms. In truth I doubt you can compare the two as Hendry wouldn't have been anywhere near as effective in Reardons day, and O'Sullivan would simply have cracked long before reaching the potential that a mentally weak modern game has allowed him to scale. Oh and Robertson in the top ten?? Really? I rest my case.
Different colour balls made a difference as well
Robertson! Jesus christ!
My cousin Ron and I were skulling pints of newcatle black and having a choof last night up on the high street, Ron said he is by far the greatest.
1) R O'Sullivan 2) S Hendry 3) J Higgins 4) M Selby 5) M Williams 6) S Davis 7) J Davis 8) F Davis 9) J Pullman 10) R Reardon 11) J White 12) A Higgins 13) J Trump 14) N Robertson 15) H Lindrum 16) S Murphy 17) J Spencer 18) D Junhui 19) S Bingham 20) C Thorburn
This list is all over the place lol. But I respect your right to make it
jimmy white are also added in top 5
No Jimmy White?!
He should be in over Robertson definitely
Fun little video, personally i think they got 3&4 the wrong way around. But get a bigger table next time boys......say a snooker table for example🤣