i just was hoping none of this stuff was true because i grew up laughing with minilad videos he was a great youtuber so seeing this kinda broke my heart a little
@@masoncrader4108legit, I'd say he was probably my favorite RUclipsr when he separated from the group, then I stopped watching him for about 4 months then his career folded cause of his actions
I was one of the people who went into his Discord and spammed, got banned from it, just to find out he locked everyone out of it and no one can ever speak in it ever again. I'm not so mad at the action he did more so at the fact he tried to deny it till the very end then tried to hide the entire situation from his child audience so now you have MiniLadd purists that are 12 and not know the situation vs MiniLadd downfall prayers telling them to open their eyes to everything. He seriously tried to manipulate his fan base into brushing it under the rug, we didn't, we still remember to this day what you did Craig. And I will never forget, can't believe you and other RUclipsrs (some in that group have allegations of their own) were allowed to be in charge of children for a convention.
the way i look at it, craig fled the country. he left and went back to ireland to "work on himself". but to be honest he did it to avoid prosecution and i cant see it otherwise. also i feel bad for anthony(bigjigglypanda) the man went on tour with craig for over a year or so and was close to craig and for your friend to be outted as a monster had to hit hard. craigs victims never got justice aswell and thats just horrible... and to blame it all on mental health struggles is just despicable.
I thought he flew back to Northern Ireland because him and Sammy broke up, and obviously Sammy after that came out and said that he was an absolute POS the entire relationship, then the Allegations with minors came out. He honestly moved cause he got broken up with. But yeah fleeing the country like that looks hella sus looking at it in retrospect.
I was on Craig's discord server before all of this came out. I spoke with him directly, I was featured on a few of his fanart Fridays. What he did shook me to my core then and I still am not over it now. He is a horrible person
Im so sick of seeing people on youtube ruin themselves because of the things they did behind the scenes lying and being manipulative or just out of jealousy and threats seriously people need to get there stuff together i hate seeing people i liked watching back then do this to themselves and it gets worse for me seeing them not even going to try changing it just keeps breaking my heart
It's sad how many young youtubers are failing as they get older. The ones I see failing are immature. They started too young with little guidance and let popularity and success go to their heads. That feeling of "I can do anything and people will still love me" is a powerful drug. The difference between guys like MiniLadd and WIDD are that one is immature and one is an adult. Adults think things through, have morals and are more likely to focus on family than popularity. That's why we respect WIDD.
when i first discovered the vanoss crew, i felt guilty for not liking mini out of everyone in the group i just couldnt get around his clearly fake laughs and childish content. Now i can say without guilt that i still like everyone in vanoss crew except mini
13:22 Yes! Finally someone talks about how some people are just impossible to cancel. Take schlatt for example, he was trending like twice a month for awhile because a Minecraft stan or something is trying to cancel him all the time for one reason or another. And he's only getting more and more popular, which I love so much😂
@@whatitdodave no Jorge just dropped the Underworld Saga a few hours ago actually edit: also love all the reactions they're great to watch or even just listen to when studying
you really hit the nail on the head if you never heard of him before. Except in this case, it would be pretty difficult to blame other people for his Pablo actions.
I remember going to his tour in 2019 then like a year later he got cancelled and when he came back I was hoping his content was gonna be the same but he fell off and that’s why I stopped watching him
15:52 I would think being outed as a P3D0 would break a lot of website services for someone, especially if the claims appeared factual, with a lot of evidence.
RUclips should of banned his channel in my opinion i mean its not like he was making much income from it anyways and he was getting tons of dislikes/negative comments.
Honestly no clue how he even got big in the first place. It's so clear that everything about him was manufactured and forced. He was always the least interesting/entertaining member of the group and that didn't change after he left. Maybe let's stop making people without any talent famous in the first place so they don't get this kinda ego and think they can do what they want without repurcussions
I use to rock with mini ladd. He was one of my favorites. Safe to say, when he left to.group, he fell off. Then the other stuff came out and I stopped watching. Same with ohmwrecker and his bull he had going on.
Again with Mini? Let me say once more then… HE DIDN’T ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING. Do I condone what he was attempting to do, obviously NO. But I understand WHY. He was suicidal, and as someone who has also experienced that level of darkness, the idea of consequences goes straight out the window. There was no exchange of photos, only DMs, and not even very explicit ones either. I also find it interesting how everyone ignores that how this all came to light was a hacker looking through random peoples stuff, who already had a problem with Mini, hacked into the girl’s account and exposed the messages, against her will too. I also find it interesting that everyone is ready to absolutely demonize Mini for something he didn’t do, but have completely forgotten Jinbop for what he ACTUALLY tried to do. Mini was suicidal and wanted a fling before what was left of his conscience talked him out of it. While Jin is an actual child predator who went to meet what he thought was a thirteen year old. Edit: to be perfectly honest I don’t give a shit about Mini, but I think focusing all the attention on JUST him leaves room for others to slip through the cracks.
I disagree. The problem I, and probably most other people, have with him is that he was just straight up lying and trying to gaslight his audience. All the DM's and grooming stuff is despicable either way. Even if he was in a terribly dark place, having a rough mental state isn't a good excuse. Maybe it could be if he had taken accountability and actually tried to better himself and apologize to the people he groomed or go to therapy but he just didn't. He lied. Over and over again. Even before all that stuff came out he was lying about his relationship with Brian and the Vanoss crew. There is no way that he can be seen as a decent person after doing things like that. Also saying that he didn't do anything is very wrong. He manipulated those girls when they were minors in order to get what he wanted from them. That is the literal definition of grooming.
@@ShrimpInACoffin True, BUT suicidal is a far cry from just a “rough mental state”. As I said when you’re in that place, the idea of punishment goes out the window. Also he DID get help, which is one of the main reasons he was gone for so long. Something else I think is interesting is that everyone is so quick to point out her age at the time, but not his. The age gap wasn’t as large as other people make it seem. And again I reiterate, nothing ACTUALLY happened between the two of them. I don’t necessarily have a problem with holding him accountable, it’s the apparent double standard where people continue to talk about it for monthd and YEARS after and continue to hound him, while others like Jinbop are forgotten almost immediately. And again what about the hacker? Nobody is holding them accountable for breaking into people’s accounts, rummaging through their private DMs in search of dirt on Mini, exposing everything they could find only to ruin Mini, not caring who else got damaged along the way. Justice is supposed to be blind, to ALL parties involved. Edit: Also I never said he did anything wrong, I said nothing happened. He never actually went to see them or physically interacted with them in any way. He DID take advantage of his online fame to try and convince them to do things, but he never actually did.
@@ender_slayer3 well actually, he didn't do anything physical. but he did quite a lot of damage. im aware a handful of people why says he's gotten help after the fact. but he should have got the help he needed when many people were spelling it out for them behind the scenes and before everything came out. I also don't condone the things he did. and I also find using suicide as an excuse is another layer of disgusting. just the idea of apology with excuses is always weird. but to then use the ultimate excuse like scuicide really made my blood boil when first watching it. his "my apology" video should have been changed to "I did something f'ed up because of this and this and this". normally I would feel a little bit for people who had those dark thoughts or even attempted at some point in their lives. but if he uses his suicide attempt as both an excuse and a tool to keep everything quiet. he literally gets nothing from me. also, I bet the reason people are holding his disgusting actions over his head for this long is because he believes his audience are just a bunch of idiots. or in his own words, he said "people will eventually forget and move on" while also saying to one of the girls "she will be responsible for millions of deaths if people were to know about this" or something on those lines. so which is supposed to be the truth? or does he say anything he can to get himself out of his problems? to me, all the actions that he tries to push in the public eye is all to get sympathy, which is actually just how I remember him before the "sexting of minors" came out. in the end, I hope he gets his help, but I also hope that he stays gone instead of this being another one of his vacations to get out of the negative spotlight he created. also what is all this stuff about a hacker releasing all this. because thats the first im hearing about it, unless you heard the wrong thing. do you have a specific video talking about the information leaked by a hacker that I can watch? and I hope I didn't touch any nerves talking about suicide when you've had that experience. but I watch a lot of TCAP back when the news with mini broke. after watching I believe every episode of the program. I learned that people will throw around suicide as an excuse just as easily as them saying they were just coming over to talk or to watch the game. so when he talks about suicide, I don't see it as opening up to what he's thinking, but more of him talking and thinking how he's going to manoeuvre around this mess.
@@jesse.delorey78 yeah, I always find apology videos weird too. I think the biggest thing is the entire situation and how it’s played out feels really unbalanced to me. I know I keep bringing Jinbop up but he is the best example I can think of. If people won’t forgive and forget Mini I don’t think they should do the same to Jin. As for the hacker I saw it on several videos when the whole thing with Mini first came to light. From what I remember the first set of screenshots and DM records came out as the result of a hacker probing around looking for dirt. Honestly Mini has always had a weird vibe about him, and truth be told I think he should be held accountable, but the thing that bugs me is that people seem to ONLY focus on Mini, and it pisses me off. Hold EVERYONE accountable for their actions, Justice is blind, it doesn’t have a microscope.
@@ender_slayer3 it isn't that people only hold him accountable, but its just a bit personal for me. he was a someone I believed to be a good person and that at one point was the go-to RUclipsr t see what content he uploaded first. and also watched him the most for I believe 2 years but I've watched the group from 2013 to now, excluding mini in 2019 or 2020. you probably ran into tons of comments saying they were a big part of their childhoods and thats also the case for mine. I always thought it was ash that leaked some stuff, that or Hailey who made the video about it and ash having the most contact with him. I never heard o jinbop until I got into this comment thread, but ill probably search him up tonight before I forget. I don't only focus on mini. this kind of thing always makes my blood boil, just about as much as reckless drivers even though they're both quite different. someone endangering other people for very little reason like having a good time should always be held accountable. th the beginning I remember being like "how come is this guy not in jail right now". but as of right now I do still want that. but realistically that won't happen. I believe its because it was already years ago by the time that was released or that its because it has to do with an internet celebrity and that there would be loads of bias for or against him. even with it only being texts that we know of, I do feel that minis channel should be deleted. even though hes gotten therapy and that he bettered himself, like what his comment section keeps leaning on. its where the problem started and he used his position of power as a weapon, so that is something that he should not have. anyways, jinbop, ill check him out to see if I want to support him. 👁👁 👅
Man I remember when this happened. I really really really wanted him to actually change but man the dude didn't even try.
i just was hoping none of this stuff was true because i grew up laughing with minilad videos he was a great youtuber so seeing this kinda broke my heart a little
@@masoncrader4108legit, I'd say he was probably my favorite RUclipsr when he separated from the group, then I stopped watching him for about 4 months then his career folded cause of his actions
I was one of the people who went into his Discord and spammed, got banned from it, just to find out he locked everyone out of it and no one can ever speak in it ever again. I'm not so mad at the action he did more so at the fact he tried to deny it till the very end then tried to hide the entire situation from his child audience so now you have MiniLadd purists that are 12 and not know the situation vs MiniLadd downfall prayers telling them to open their eyes to everything. He seriously tried to manipulate his fan base into brushing it under the rug, we didn't, we still remember to this day what you did Craig. And I will never forget, can't believe you and other RUclipsrs (some in that group have allegations of their own) were allowed to be in charge of children for a convention.
Pewds latest vids are so wholesome it's mostly him living life in Japan with his wife Marzia and son Bjorn
He also appeared in cdawgva's cycleathon this year
the way i look at it, craig fled the country. he left and went back to ireland to "work on himself". but to be honest he did it to avoid prosecution and i cant see it otherwise. also i feel bad for anthony(bigjigglypanda) the man went on tour with craig for over a year or so and was close to craig and for your friend to be outted as a monster had to hit hard. craigs victims never got justice aswell and thats just horrible... and to blame it all on mental health struggles is just despicable.
I thought he flew back to Northern Ireland because him and Sammy broke up, and obviously Sammy after that came out and said that he was an absolute POS the entire relationship, then the Allegations with minors came out. He honestly moved cause he got broken up with. But yeah fleeing the country like that looks hella sus looking at it in retrospect.
“Mini Ladd likes showing his mini Ladd to mini Ladds” - A wise man
Man i miss when he was (supposedly) a decent person. Dude was my childhood.
Little did i know i had a better chance with him at that same age.
I was on Craig's discord server before all of this came out. I spoke with him directly, I was featured on a few of his fanart Fridays. What he did shook me to my core then and I still am not over it now. He is a horrible person
Im so sick of seeing people on youtube ruin themselves because of the things they did behind the scenes lying and being manipulative or just out of jealousy and threats seriously people need to get there stuff together i hate seeing people i liked watching back then do this to themselves and it gets worse for me seeing them not even going to try changing it just keeps breaking my heart
It's sad how many young youtubers are failing as they get older. The ones I see failing are immature. They started too young with little guidance and let popularity and success go to their heads. That feeling of "I can do anything and people will still love me" is a powerful drug. The difference between guys like MiniLadd and WIDD are that one is immature and one is an adult. Adults think things through, have morals and are more likely to focus on family than popularity. That's why we respect WIDD.
Soo crazy not knowing anything about these people, then just seeing thumbnails of them being caught doing something.
He has new friends who defend him, definitely watch out for those creeps 😬
when i first discovered the vanoss crew, i felt guilty for not liking mini out of everyone in the group i just couldnt get around his clearly fake laughs and childish content. Now i can say without guilt that i still like everyone in vanoss crew except mini
Welcome back to yet another episode of "big RUclipsr abuses power to hook up with minors and destroys their career"
Why is it always minors?
Because hooking up with adults isn't illegal?
They can't manipulate adults. Children worship them where adults tell them to grow up.
9:35 straight W mindset
One of my favorite songs that I think you should listen to is ‘rahhhh kamiyada remix’ by alt!
13:22
Yes! Finally someone talks about how some people are just impossible to cancel.
Take schlatt for example, he was trending like twice a month for awhile because a Minecraft stan or something is trying to cancel him all the time for one reason or another. And he's only getting more and more popular, which I love so much😂
To be fair, most of the comments on that Minecraft video he uploaded after his disappearance were negative and he got a lot of dislikes on it.
Something i definitely recommend to react to are compilations of the Vanos group just making fun of him. Oddly cathartic in my opinion
mini ladd likes mini lads
anyways
Dave did you know EPIC just dropped a new saga? theres only 3 songs tho but I still think you'll enjoy them
This?
Reacting to Epic: The Musical - Circe Saga Whole Album
ruclips.net/video/EFaswWJeBQ4/видео.html
@@whatitdodave no Jorge just dropped the Underworld Saga a few hours ago actually
edit: also love all the reactions they're great to watch or even just listen to when studying
@@0false.sun0 I will have a reaction to it all tomorrow! Thanks for the update!
@@whatitdodavejust gonna say this here
I know you watched smg4 before but please watch the puzzlevision arc that just finished
@@whatitdodave Nice im looking forward to it
I remember being subbed to this guy and then all the information had came out I was heart broken, hated him since then
I know you probably still hold some hate for him and your probably still a bit heart broken, but did you also unsub?
@@jesse.delorey78 yea, I forgot to mention that too
Mini sounds like the guy who blames others than himself and doesn’t take responsibility for his actions.
you really hit the nail on the head if you never heard of him before. Except in this case, it would be pretty difficult to blame other people for his Pablo actions.
I remember going to his tour in 2019 then like a year later he got cancelled and when he came back I was hoping his content was gonna be the same but he fell off and that’s why I stopped watching him
15:52 I would think being outed as a P3D0 would break a lot of website services for someone, especially if the claims appeared factual, with a lot of evidence.
Ego turns many into being stupid!!!
RUclips should of banned his channel in my opinion i mean its not like he was making much income from it anyways and he was getting tons of dislikes/negative comments.
Interesting commentary.
Pewds amnesia vids are kinda what skyrocketed his channel
Craig......at some point started to give me the same feeling as Dan for Danplan in his gaslighting bullshit
While yes Craig is a creep, he is far from being the biggest creep. EDP is a far bigger creep......both physically and with what he did.
SSSniperwolf did have a dip it's all under 1 Million views and she used to get 1.5+ mill still not that big of punishment imo
Mini Ladd used to be my favorite RUclipsr at one point
Same here
Honestly no clue how he even got big in the first place. It's so clear that everything about him was manufactured and forced. He was always the least interesting/entertaining member of the group and that didn't change after he left. Maybe let's stop making people without any talent famous in the first place so they don't get this kinda ego and think they can do what they want without repurcussions
Have you seen that seananners is posting again
Please watch smii7y’s 20th expired milk series
“it’s called this video will make you laugh”
I use to rock with mini ladd. He was one of my favorites. Safe to say, when he left to.group, he fell off. Then the other stuff came out and I stopped watching. Same with ohmwrecker and his bull he had going on.
Sad i used to watch all his stuff sucks
all offense i HATE sunny v2 and internet anarchist. youtube documenters SUCK
lol at “all offense”
Again with Mini? Let me say once more then… HE DIDN’T ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING. Do I condone what he was attempting to do, obviously NO. But I understand WHY. He was suicidal, and as someone who has also experienced that level of darkness, the idea of consequences goes straight out the window. There was no exchange of photos, only DMs, and not even very explicit ones either.
I also find it interesting how everyone ignores that how this all came to light was a hacker looking through random peoples stuff, who already had a problem with Mini, hacked into the girl’s account and exposed the messages, against her will too.
I also find it interesting that everyone is ready to absolutely demonize Mini for something he didn’t do, but have completely forgotten Jinbop for what he ACTUALLY tried to do. Mini was suicidal and wanted a fling before what was left of his conscience talked him out of it. While Jin is an actual child predator who went to meet what he thought was a thirteen year old.
Edit: to be perfectly honest I don’t give a shit about Mini, but I think focusing all the attention on JUST him leaves room for others to slip through the cracks.
I disagree. The problem I, and probably most other people, have with him is that he was just straight up lying and trying to gaslight his audience. All the DM's and grooming stuff is despicable either way. Even if he was in a terribly dark place, having a rough mental state isn't a good excuse. Maybe it could be if he had taken accountability and actually tried to better himself and apologize to the people he groomed or go to therapy but he just didn't. He lied. Over and over again. Even before all that stuff came out he was lying about his relationship with Brian and the Vanoss crew. There is no way that he can be seen as a decent person after doing things like that. Also saying that he didn't do anything is very wrong. He manipulated those girls when they were minors in order to get what he wanted from them. That is the literal definition of grooming.
@@ShrimpInACoffin True, BUT suicidal is a far cry from just a “rough mental state”. As I said when you’re in that place, the idea of punishment goes out the window. Also he DID get help, which is one of the main reasons he was gone for so long. Something else I think is interesting is that everyone is so quick to point out her age at the time, but not his. The age gap wasn’t as large as other people make it seem. And again I reiterate, nothing ACTUALLY happened between the two of them. I don’t necessarily have a problem with holding him accountable, it’s the apparent double standard where people continue to talk about it for monthd and YEARS after and continue to hound him, while others like Jinbop are forgotten almost immediately. And again what about the hacker? Nobody is holding them accountable for breaking into people’s accounts, rummaging through their private DMs in search of dirt on Mini, exposing everything they could find only to ruin Mini, not caring who else got damaged along the way. Justice is supposed to be blind, to ALL parties involved.
Edit: Also I never said he did anything wrong, I said nothing happened. He never actually went to see them or physically interacted with them in any way. He DID take advantage of his online fame to try and convince them to do things, but he never actually did.
@@ender_slayer3 well actually, he didn't do anything physical. but he did quite a lot of damage. im aware a handful of people why says he's gotten help after the fact. but he should have got the help he needed when many people were spelling it out for them behind the scenes and before everything came out. I also don't condone the things he did. and I also find using suicide as an excuse is another layer of disgusting. just the idea of apology with excuses is always weird. but to then use the ultimate excuse like scuicide really made my blood boil when first watching it. his "my apology" video should have been changed to "I did something f'ed up because of this and this and this". normally I would feel a little bit for people who had those dark thoughts or even attempted at some point in their lives. but if he uses his suicide attempt as both an excuse and a tool to keep everything quiet. he literally gets nothing from me.
also, I bet the reason people are holding his disgusting actions over his head for this long is because he believes his audience are just a bunch of idiots. or in his own words, he said "people will eventually forget and move on" while also saying to one of the girls "she will be responsible for millions of deaths if people were to know about this" or something on those lines. so which is supposed to be the truth? or does he say anything he can to get himself out of his problems?
to me, all the actions that he tries to push in the public eye is all to get sympathy, which is actually just how I remember him before the "sexting of minors" came out. in the end, I hope he gets his help, but I also hope that he stays gone instead of this being another one of his vacations to get out of the negative spotlight he created.
also what is all this stuff about a hacker releasing all this. because thats the first im hearing about it, unless you heard the wrong thing. do you have a specific video talking about the information leaked by a hacker that I can watch?
and I hope I didn't touch any nerves talking about suicide when you've had that experience. but I watch a lot of TCAP back when the news with mini broke. after watching I believe every episode of the program. I learned that people will throw around suicide as an excuse just as easily as them saying they were just coming over to talk or to watch the game. so when he talks about suicide, I don't see it as opening up to what he's thinking, but more of him talking and thinking how he's going to manoeuvre around this mess.
@@jesse.delorey78 yeah, I always find apology videos weird too. I think the biggest thing is the entire situation and how it’s played out feels really unbalanced to me. I know I keep bringing Jinbop up but he is the best example I can think of. If people won’t forgive and forget Mini I don’t think they should do the same to Jin. As for the hacker I saw it on several videos when the whole thing with Mini first came to light. From what I remember the first set of screenshots and DM records came out as the result of a hacker probing around looking for dirt.
Honestly Mini has always had a weird vibe about him, and truth be told I think he should be held accountable, but the thing that bugs me is that people seem to ONLY focus on Mini, and it pisses me off. Hold EVERYONE accountable for their actions, Justice is blind, it doesn’t have a microscope.
@@ender_slayer3 it isn't that people only hold him accountable, but its just a bit personal for me. he was a someone I believed to be a good person and that at one point was the go-to RUclipsr t see what content he uploaded first. and also watched him the most for I believe 2 years but I've watched the group from 2013 to now, excluding mini in 2019 or 2020. you probably ran into tons of comments saying they were a big part of their childhoods and thats also the case for mine.
I always thought it was ash that leaked some stuff, that or Hailey who made the video about it and ash having the most contact with him.
I never heard o jinbop until I got into this comment thread, but ill probably search him up tonight before I forget. I don't only focus on mini. this kind of thing always makes my blood boil, just about as much as reckless drivers even though they're both quite different. someone endangering other people for very little reason like having a good time should always be held accountable. th the beginning I remember being like "how come is this guy not in jail right now". but as of right now I do still want that. but realistically that won't happen. I believe its because it was already years ago by the time that was released or that its because it has to do with an internet celebrity and that there would be loads of bias for or against him. even with it only being texts that we know of, I do feel that minis channel should be deleted. even though hes gotten therapy and that he bettered himself, like what his comment section keeps leaning on. its where the problem started and he used his position of power as a weapon, so that is something that he should not have.
anyways, jinbop, ill check him out to see if I want to support him.
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