The stunning side effects of Ozempic | Johann Hari
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- -- Johann Hari, author of three New York Times best-selling books, and author of the new book "Magic Pill: The Extraordinary Benefits and Disturbing Risks of the New Weight-Loss Drugs," joins David to discuss Ozempic, including his own experience with it, and more. Get the book: amzn.to/3UyHtfH
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Yeah go ahead and jail Trump. You already seen what he's done with just a mugshot.
He's already said he's willing to go to jail for his first amendment rights.
The unfair persecution of Trump has lifted Trump from being a politician and a businessman to a National Martyr.
What you people don't get is that you're being so hateful and other people see it as un- American, add this boosts Trump's poll numbers.
Haters hate and they can't stop. Thank you haters. 😉
Your TDS is showing.
@@lostoffgrid8927😮
@@lostoffgrid8927point taken and the
He should jail the prosecutors
We blame people for their obesity but our food system is set up to make people obese. Sounds like the way we blame people for being impoverished but we have a system that makes it so difficult to get out of poverty. I think our culture could benefit from some empathy all around. ❤❤
I read Johann Hari's book on Depression. While it's patently clear if one loses a loved one, a job, or their health... they are going to BE depressed.
But the medical field, held hostage to Big Pharma has to instead make the matter genetic or chemical so that they can create a drug to "treat" the "disorder."
I see a parallel here. I don't see him mentioning the fake sugars and fast food "happy" meals, etc. (He did a few minutes later. But just a passing mention.)
Human metabolism is being impacted. Kids sit around all day in school, and office jobs create the same thing. People are outside and active less and eating junk food more.
Back in the 1970s when the birth control pill was introduced, I took it and gained 30 pounds in a few months. I think it messed with my metabolism. The point is, extra weight makes people less active and usually less politically active.
It is possible that there is some social engineering going on here to create a more pliable population as wealth is increasingly engineered to the very rich while the Middle Class disappears and working families are left to struggle.
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Food deserts in bigger cities just blow my mind
Excuses, excuses
@@russell-gt1dy
The OP is correct. Our food industry is partly to blame.
I graduated HS in 1979 in a class of approximately 250 students. Maybe five or six students were visibly obese. But after Ronald Reagan became president in the 1980's he was the first president to deny Federal Agriculture Loans to thousands of Americas family farmers who then went bankrupt. The banks foreclosed and sold thousands of family farms off for pennies on the dollar to big corporate agro corporations who then monopolized Americas food production using genetically modified plants and toxic pesticides. Food processors extended shelf life by using chemically altered hydrogenated unsaturated fats the human body can't metabolize and put corn syrup and other sweeteners into everything even when it doesn't taste sweet because sugar is addictive.
Somebody has been lying to you.
@@AmericaFirstChic721 Lied to, how so? You know what else I witnessed Ronald Reagan do in 1987?
Wage class warfare by giving Amnesty to millions of undocumented immigrants in order to bust the labor unions, ignore anti-trust laws and deregulate Wall St. to use junk bonds to finance the hostile takeovers of thousands of corporations to consolidate them into monopolies and cartels that looted employee pension funds and outsourced millions of American manufacturing jobs to third world sweat shops creating Americas Rust Belt on Reagan's watch.
Then Reagan gave a national address on TV in which he admitted and apologized for making a secret deal before the election with Iranian Islamic terrorists to trade American weapons in exchange for the American Embassy hostages if the Iranian terrorist waited until after the election to release the hostages.
So it seems somebody has been lying to you. Which is probably why you participate in class warfare on yourself by voting for Republicans then wonder why you are working ever longer hours for less pay enslaved in debt.
Yup. And that was before the republican party was outed as an arm of industrial millionaires.
Of course, blame the Republicans 😂
@@patriciamay6396 Blame for the class warfare thats destroyed the middle class should be apportioned based on deeds. To keep this comment short I'll note Trump doubled the National Debt with huge tax cuts for billionaires and if reelected in 2024 has promised to implement the 2525 Plan which mandates more tax cuts for billionaires paid for with the repeal of Social Security, Medicare and the Affordable Heath Care Act which approximately 40 million Americans rely on for access to heath care. What do you that will do to whats left of the middle class?
That was fascinating and a refreshing change from hearing about Von Shitzinpants.
As someone with severe lifelong binge eating disorder, Ozempic -- for the first time ever in my life -- has made me realise how food becomes unappealing after a standard portion. How it hits you like a brick in the stomach, and you can even leave food on the plate as you can't even stand the sight of food. It's made me happy in one sense but also so sad to know that this is how normal people just exist, and this has been broken in me my entire life. To me, I've never felt "full" or "satiated" from food. Like I'm drinking from a fountain but my thirst never goes away.
Agreed. I've been on non-brand semaglutide since January and am amazed by how it has quieted the "food noise" in my head. Realizing this is how a lot of people feel all the time has definitely made me rethink the ideas about willpower and "just buckling down" I've had all my life, and I'm beginning to understand there are a lot of us for whom standard weight loss is more difficult because of the way our brains work.
But if you stop taking it will you go straight back to binge eating?
@@KatJ3st I've been doing injections every 10-14 days to stretch out my doses and seem to still have the full benefits of the meds, but I'm not sure how it'll go when I stop altogether. I'm considering staying on a moderate dose every two weeks or so once I hit my goal and seeing if that's sustainable over time.
I have a long history of multiple ED but I am not having the same experience as you. I still love and want food but am in more control. It's made me realize how severely out of control I have been with food and for the first time when I'm craving something unhealthy, I can tell myself no and grab something healthy instead. It's depressing that I can't do that without a drug.
@@KatJ3st Yes, but the thing with any weight loss device is that these are hopefulIy tools one would use to make other changes in the meantime, such as therapy and/or other more permanent medications, so that when you do come off it you're a whole different person and aren't going to be as prone to falling back.
Please keep in mind that Wegovy is the version that is specifically for weight loss. Ozempic and Mounjoro is primarily for diabetics and insulin resistance. The weight loss is merely a side effect of the medication. celebrities have turned it into a fad diet, and caused immense shortages of the medication. They take it to lose
Only for diabetic type 2s. I'm type 1 and my Dr put me on it to help reduce my A1C and my insulin resistance. I'm not extremely heavy... about 200 lbs and did lose weight when my insurance suddenly stopped covering it! They wanted over $800.00 a month to stay on it. My drs have fought to get me covered due to so many complex disorders I have as well as necessary daily steroid use, they still won't cover me because I'm type 1. The pharmacy said many insurances are not covering it.
I had to stop using it because of an outage for 2 months.
I took it for diabetes too and when it started to become difficult to source, my doctor just switched me to another medication. It was very simple. You have other options
Sorry to tell you that I heard recently that Ozempic and Wegovy are soon going to be covered by the major insurers for some specific heart condition.
Good point - thank you!
Intermittent fasting is the only thing that has worked for me. I eat healthy food and pay attention to my gut health also.
Smart!👏👏👏
Yes! Dr Jason Fung!
Of course, for people with good digestion, it is easy if they are smart enough to control their eating habits! Nothing to brag about!
Fast Feast Repeat Gin Stephens
High fructose corn syrup preceded the rise of obesity by just a few years in America. Processed crap is killing us. We can choose to eat better. It takes effort. And im not talking about shopping at whole foods. Simply eating less and eating local and fresh is best.
Define "eating local".
@@audreymuzingo933 That only works year-round for people who live in areas that have year-round growing seasons. I prepare my food at home from basic ingredients. I think that should be the goal.
So tell me are you willing to come into work for me 4hrs early so I can get to Trader Joe's to get my fresher food and have time to fix it
It's not just what we are eating but our lifestyle as well. A lot of people are so time crunched that eating out, especially fast food is the only option
YES!
@@jsdaglio1103 thank you I will let my charge nurse know
The thing not mentioned here is that, at least in the US, Ozempic is only available to the rich. My friend, who desperately needs to lose weight to get life-saving surgery (her doctor refuses to operate till she meets a particular BMI) can not get her insurance to cover Ozempic and out of pocket expense was quoted at $1400 a week, with 4 doses per month. That's completely out of her reach. He suggested bariatric surgery, but she knows the risks of that and doesn't want to her body to be permanently changed, with its life long detriments just to lose weight for this other surgery she needs. It's ridiculous.
So she's gutting it out, trying to starve herself on her own, because she has no access to a drug that rich people can easily get for vanity purposes.
Our health "care" system in the US makes me rage at the fact that you must be rich if you want to survive.
Obesity is a health issue and yet regular people don’t have access to drugs that could help them. It’s so frustrating
Not so! Medicare/Medicaid will cover the cost completely if you're a diabetic.
@@shawnnewell4541 But it WON'T if you're NOT diabetic. And there are so many OTHER health issues besides diabetes that are affected by obesity that people have to pay out of pocket for because insurers or medicare seem to think you just want to lose weight for vanity, when that couldn't be further from the truth. The rich, who are, by and large, losing weight for vanity, can afford it. People like my friend who need it for surgery, can not. It's just appalling.
If you really want to help and she really wants the help, research keto, ketovore, carnivore. Go slow, but steady.
@@kelleemerson9510 Unfortunately that diet woud be very bad for her too. She has to avoid purines in her diet. She's managing, but it could have been easier on her if she was wealthy.
My wife is on Ozempic as she was overweight due to lipedema. Lipedema is a medical condition that primarily affects women. It causes fat buildup in the lower part of the body and the upper arms. No amount of healthy eating and exercise will eliminate this fat. Ozempic has been the only thing that has helped my wife lose weight.
Here’s a tip for the rest of us. Besides healthy eating, avoid as much as possible sugars and breads. Have your biggest meal in the morning and eat progressively less as the day goes on. Have very little, if anything, after about 3 or 4. This allows you to lose weight without starving yourself.
It's not how late you're eating, but what you're eating at night.
That’s what I do. Intermittent fasting and the carnivore diet. No drugs. No sugar whatsoever. No carbs. No plants. Bloodwork is good and I’m feeling well and happy😊
Did you have a bad craving for sugar to begin with? I'm having trouble at night eating alot it's very uncomfortable I've tried and tried. Even when I'm full it's a real nervous habit I'm dealing with my psych nurse recommended the shots.
@@Flwer479 I think the GLP-1s will help you quite a bit with your compulsive eating. It's so good at that that it even works on other compulsive behaviors including drugs, drinking, gambling.
my best friend has this as well... however she still requires surgery (tumescent liposuction and removal of painful lipomas) Ozempic has helped her get to a healthier weight prior to the surgery.
Really thoughtful conversation. Well done. Keep doing your thing Pakman - would love to see more from you on nuanced topics like this in the future.
For an author he is horrible with using words and vocabulary and phrasing and logic and reasoning. Johann Hari must be the worst author ever if this is how he thinks words work.
@@ASDasdSDsadASD-nc7lf Really? I thought this was the best explanation of OZEMPIC I've seen and I have watched A LOT on it. I actually thought it was kind of objective, even though he takes it himself!!
America is one of the only countries in the world that has not banned the use of HFCS or limited the use of partially hydrogenated fats or who put major regulations on processed foods…because the companies which make them would lose billions of dollars and lobbyists would lose their jobs…and senators would lose their kick backs… same the pharmaceutical industry…it’s a very vicious circle
As someone with a long history of weight problems going back to childhood, I have white knuckled through low fat, low sugar, running, swimming, bulemia, it was a brutal job just to be normal to a bit chubby. I am an apple shape like the women in my family. It's the most vulnerable to obesity, diabetes and heart disease. I have rarely felt full. Until Ozempic. It was the weirdest thing. I could just 'take or leave' anything more than a bite or two of dessert. Due to age, depression and chronic pain, eating, and eating sugary crap, which I rarely allowed myself for decades has been something to look fwd to which is causing my health havoc. My Dr brought up Ozempic, as it's only $60 a month with my work insurance in Canada. (Americans, stop voting for Republicans who Vote against letting the US negotiate drug prices-you pay at least 5X as much as anywhere else and it's killing you.) Ozempic allowed me to lose 20 lbs in 6 weeks, which was awesome. The nausea sucked though. Now that I'm on disability, I hope to go back on, but I understand the depression and suicidality. When food becomes a friend and something to look forward to, it leaves a void. I need a better strategy filling that food with something I enjoy. Great guest. Don't care that he has a past - it probably makes him a better journalist now. We are too quick to cancel people, and no one is perfect, including you.
You've nailed it when it comes to drug price negotiation, the GOP is never on the side of average folks. They are for fat business profits, and it is disgrace.
@@chensexpress9668AMEN!
Thanks for your post. I've never had the problem of being overweight, but your good description has helped me understand. I once read that after recovery, former addicts learn to replace their past addictions with fresh flowers - or some other beauty that they would not have otherwise had (as a reward). And each time they look at the beauty, it reminds them and rewards them. Maybe you can do the same type of thing. Ironically, after I work out, I reward myself with a big meal and an engrossing movie - kind of like a reward. While this is a good choice for me (as I'm trying to get the protein hit), everyone can find their own thing that works. God Bless and good luck!
If we must be political, both sides aren’t really for the average citizen.
Reading your story was like reading my own. I’m also Canadian btw and everything was the same minus the 20 pounds because I couldn’t get past the nausea and stopped taking it but am back on it now nausea and all. I wish you the best of luck.😊
I started on 1mg of Ozempic/week awhile ago, but it didn’t help too much. Now that I have been on Ozempic 2mg/week, it's not just my PHYSICAL hunger that has lessened, but also my HEAD hunger decreased, as well. THIS is one reason that drugs like Ozempic helps people like me who eat past fullness. It has actually reduced my THOUGHTS about eating when I am not PHYSICALLY hungry.
How did you go about asking for it? Due to a work injury I can’t really move but I got used to moving like all the time walking 12 miles a day and I still hungry no matter what I do I feel like I’m staving.
Abstinence from sugar and flour will eliminate the head hunger, without drugs.
@@robisonbeth that's like asking a cocaine addict to abstain from coke. If I could, I would. Semaglutide is the first thing that has silenced the siren call of McDonalds for me.
@ravennaevans Exactly!! Perhaps abstaining from sugar & flour might help a bit, but those thoughts are ALWAYS there. Certain ADD meds have helped my cravings a bit, along with helping some ADD symptoms, but I don't like the long-term cardiovascular effects for me at the levels I would need to help me.
This is called "food noise" and people really underestimate how powerful it is. Its like a little voice in your head yelling at you. And the only way to get it to stop is to eat.
My best friend almost died because of taking this medication for her diabetes but she lost so much weight and even if she ate anything she was going to the bathroom all the time and she dehydrated and she was very weak. She was already kind of petite but she was nothing but skin and bones. She stopped taking it and she looks so much better thank goodness she went back to her insulin and she’s doing fine now .
Right you are. See my note above. Ric was desperately sick with side effects, which they really don't talk enough about when they first start you on the 'blue pen.' Happy your friend is improved...
@@cynthiahawkins2389thank you she’s a lot better than she was but she’s got to actually gain some weight because lost too much weight from the medication . She was literally skin and bone she was already petite so she certainly didn’t need to lose any weight . It should be marketed as a weight loss drug but it won’t be I’m sure .
This was a very interesting show. A breath of fresh air, from hearing about the orange man all day everyday everywhere! I’d love it if you did more shows like this. Thank you!
I enjoyed too 😂
Who's the orange man? Is he related to the open border destroy the country man?
I take Mounjaro for type 2 diabetes, and it has helped with my A1C levels immensely. I have also had the much welcome alternative effect of having lost over 200 pounds since my heaviest weight. Even though my fitness and lifestyle has changed significantly (I've since run several half marathons), I don't harbor any delusions of ever being able to stop taking this drug if I want to maintain progress.
Just eat an apple 🍎 for lunch.
@@mrtommy8875 It doesn't work like that.
What about the studies showing a plateau effect. These drugs just stop working after a while.
I am also on Mounjaro for Diabetes and weight loss. So far I've lost about 20 lbs. I think the key to maintaining that will have to be exercise and maybe even some individual therapy to address issues that have contributed to my using food for self-comforting and escape. Alot like drugs.
Good for you, DollarDude! My doctor put me on the 'starter dose' of 2.5mg Mounjaro for type 2 diabetes for the first month. Third day in I was so sick to my stomach, that nothing sounded good to eat (plus I constantly felt full even though I hadn't eaten anything). Notified my dr and he insisted that it would work out. The next month I started the 5mg (even though I was still sick to my stomach) but doctor insisted I go 5mg. Side effects were worse, I only ate graham crackers b/c nothing sounded good, in fact any food sounded awful. Week 2 of 5mg, I woke up in the middle of the night one night and thought I was dying. I went to the living room, opened the blinds and laid on the floor (I opened the blinds so whoever came to find out why I wasn't answering my phone would find me). (I also grabbed a bunch of graham crackers and a full sugar Pepsi to quickly boost my sugar while I was on the floor, but it took HOURS to feel human again.) Sure, I lost 30 pounds and my a1c improved dramatically, but I couldn't live like that. I went off Mounjaro and am now on Farxiga, which is working much better for me.
I take Mounjaro. I have lost 50 lbs now in my 140s 5 foot 8 64 years old. Reversed my type 2 diabeties. Not going back!
That’s fantastic news. Cheers to you for taking control of your health!
By drug's that do harm..yea right...@virginia3222
That's awesome. Are you still able to get it? I haven't been able to get a refill in weeks.
Fabulous! Congrats.
Congrats and u cannot go back ever so they say, or you'll be back where u started, unfortunate that it's life long med
The obesity epidemic is directly correlated to deregulation of ag markets & the adoption of high fructose corn syrup in food processing
The typical American eats a diet that is mostly ultraprocessed foods, high in carbs and processed vegetable oils. It's hard to convince people that they should be buying fresh, whole foods and preparing them at home if their parents never did that.
No. Not true.
Capitalism
100% the addition of Fructose and processing of food that removes fiber which impacts Fructose absorption are the primary factors. A dozen downstream impact like Obesity can be avoided by removing a significant amount of Fructose from our diets. Please see books/videos by: Richard S. Johnson and Robert Lustig.
@@edl653 Fiber is overrated. It is a part of whole, natural foods, not a superfood that people should eat unlimited quantities of to counteract the garbage they eat. When my mother got older, she consumed mass quantities of wheat bran to treat her constipation. It didn't help at all.
I am 65. As a child I didn't see fat people very often, especially among my own age.. There was ONE kid in my school who was really chubby. ONE.
Same here! I work retail and I am amazed how many obese people we have in the USA
Same in my experience and when I recently saw some photos of my childhood, the chubby kid wasn't all that fat. The obesity epidemic is real, and this isn't going to change that.
Same-e-same, here. I'm 50, and overweight kids, when I was growing up, were few and far between. The adults seemed about the same. Frightening.🤘
I remember going through some textbooks and yearbooks a while ago and being stunned by the thinness of so many of the people in photographs. I had been slowly normalized over the years. Also, there were no depts for plus sizes! Now I find myself fitting into "petite" because sizes have become so big.
@@bethseitz8830 Do you work in a clothing dept? Plus size depts (literally nonexistent when I was growing up) are now taking over the stores.
One of your best interviews ever. This is information we all need to know. The ads for Ozempic on TV are disingenuous at best and potentially dangerous to the naive and uninformed.
I looking forward to the day when I can here the song "It’s Magic" and not think about prescription drugs.
It's not magic or the power of prayer. It's science.
@@CryptocurrencyInsiderthey’re talking about the commercial for the drug…
@@ALT-vz3jnor/no, they’re talking about how Ozempic ruined a great song from the 70’s!
I lost 120lbs on Ozempic and lost loads of muscle mass. I was on a trial for the NHS for 3 yrs for diabetics reducing their risk of heart disease. The weight loss was a positive side effect and not expected. This was well before Ozempic hit the internet.
What I also have since the trial is bowel slow transit ie no bowel action unless I have high amounts of laxatives. Beware there is always a price to pay. 18 months off Ozempic and still having massive bowel disfunction . Ps I’ve maintained my weight loss by calorie counting and intermittent fasting which I learnt to do throughout the 3yr trial.
This is one of the scariest side effects that I've heard recently about this drug-especially because it persists even after stopping the medication once it occurs. Thank you so much for sharing your experience. Wishing you the best as you continue forward...❤
It tanks your potassium which is why you can't poop.
Does eating fruit like red grapes or tamarinds soaked and mashed in water help with get your bowels moving?
The Brit diet isn't known to include many vegetables, fruits or nuts. Have you tried adding these to your diet?
@@roundtwo3321 I eat lots of fruit and veg daily, I’ve also tried prunes , dates etc all the usual ones recommended. I make my own soup using at least 3 different veg. It’s a transit issue ie the bowel has stopped the peristalsis movement NOT normal constipation where the stool is hard and difficult to pass.
Thank you, David, for hosting this topic. I can't afford the pen, and my insurance will not cover it unless all else fails. Hearing this makes me want to work harder at losing weight naturally.
You can lose weight without drugs. Slowly, to be sure, but it will come off. I weighed 300 lbs before it became apparent that I couldn't continue like that. I researched and discovered the DASH diet, which is a diet approved by the Heart Assn because it manages hypertension. In six months,you I have lost 40 lbs by getting rid of sugar, processed foods, and relying on whole grains and fresh vegetables. Ideally organic is better but that's expensive so I get regular and make sure to wash them thoroughly. I also eat two meals a day at 600 calories, no snacks. I write down everything I eat and weigh myself once a week only. I also got a pair of alpine walking/hiking sticks. I am up to 2 miles of walking at least four days a week. If I feel like cheating, I turn on YT or go on Pinterest and find some chair exercises that last 15 mins per session. Not easy, but I am slowly going down. If I can do it, you can too. I've discovered I just have to want it badly enough. Good luck and David, thank you for doing a show about something other than 45.
Google Deborah Murtagh and The Ketonic Switch for a healing ketonic program.
I'm in Australia and my health fund won't cover the drug. It costs me $150/month which is affordable. What's the cost in the US?
The way you described where suicidal ideation comes from when drastically changing our eating habits based on addiction is spot on and I hope people will start to discuss that more. For me there’s emotional eating as a method of self harm. Eating to cause pain. That should be part of the eating discussion as well.
we're a nation of addicts who need SOMETHING like a higher power on the daily. Whether it's a therapist or a religion- we all stumble w crutched brokenness
True, very true.
You’re describing my brother. He comfort eats all the time. We had a rough childhood and I did a lot of therapy; I encourage him to do the same but he says he’s not brave enough 😢 it breaks my heart. He has nearly 100lbs to lose.
Years ago his doctor gave him Ozempic to try before the hype about the weight loss side effect; he quickly lost 30lbs! But he missed his doughnuts and other bad foods too much, and went back to them. It breaks my heart, I want him to live a long life he’s my only sibling and a great guy.
I’m the only one in my family who isn’t obese, we have familial type 2 and I manage mine with Mounjaro and a healthy home cooked diet and Pilates. My mother takes another diabetic drug and hasn’t changed her diet at all, she remains obese. She just wants to eat peanut butter sandwiches and junk food, and no exercise. I’m stunned she made it to 79.
@@ALT-vz3jn sugar is an addiction. Sugar for comfort, sugar for habit, sugar to celebrate, sugar vs loneliness. It doesn't matter- it's just an addictive substance. I went cold turkey to break the habit, like smoking, can't have a litte
One of my favorite episodes, David. I currently work extensively in obesity medicine and diabetes and like the author of the book, I see the benefits of these meds and feel the conflict of not addressing the real issue of food and feelings. Love it. Can’t wait to read his book. Thanks for this wonderful interview. Cuéntame si la tendremos en español también. Nuestros colegas de habla hispana necesitan esta información tan importante.
Manufactured foodstuffs tend to have a ton of appetite stimulating chemicals, are low satiating, and are calorically dense. It's no wonder we've gotten fat. We're so far from our sources of food, it means that corporations get to decide what we have access to, and it's going to be what makes them the most money.
I had the surgery 12 years ago. I only survived the terrible complications including being in an induced coma on a ventilator and in hospital for months…because I was in a major hospital in a large city. Since then I have kept all the weight off but the psychological struggle was very difficult. I lost friends, had suicidal thoughts a lot) had to see a psychiatrist and then a psychologist for years. I suffer with vitamin deficiencies and eating problems and other disabilities. All of this feels worth it, because I am no longer overweight I am not diabetic like my mom and grandpa and my psychological health is much better. I no longer use food to numb my emotions. I deal with them. I could probably write a book about my experience. However, if Ozempic was available 12 years ago, I would have definitely chosen the drug. 100%
Besides increased risk of self-harm, gastric bypass patients are at very high risk of developing one or more new addictions or leaning on ones they already had (other than food). And that's for the reason the guest described, where the sudden inability to buffer strong emotions by binging on favorite foods is suddenly not an option anymore. I am close to 3 people who had the surgery, and all 3 of them ended up with serious compulsions that were either brand new or under control before the surgery (drugs, gambling and sex).
Peter Attia also has observed that people who relied on Ozempic experienced substantial muscle loss. Muscle loss is highly associated with an increase in all cause mortality as one gets older.
careful with attias claims - he plays in a pool of cranks among KETO etc
A protein shake is enough to decrease the mortality of older people to basically a baseline.
Separate issue, keto has been shown to reduce muscle mass. Comes back after going back to a normal carb based diet.
@@christopherhatch5562 Attia is not longer keto and has changed his stances as new evidence comes out. He no longer fasts either, for example.
@bergerandleggman it’s the “normal” carb diet that caused the problem in the first place.
Your rat study example of eating "natural foods" then processed foods and contrasting the consequences is why I follow Dr. Michael Greger's dietary suggestions, all based on scientific studies. He promotes a "whole food plant based diet" and has several books (many at libraries) which explain what a natural plant based diet is and why it works, all with science.
I was vegetarian, now a vegan for many years. My diet is mostly based on "is it a plant, or made in a plant?" as my guidepost, I eat so much good food it pushes out bad food and cravings. I don't watch my calories and have a healthy weight and BMI.
I know the allure of processed food.... it all tastes great. But I've learned to make basic "real food" ingredients taste great too and I've enjoyed many benefits. Dr. Greger also goes into the science of weight loss/gain in his book and cookbook (two separate books) called "How Not to Diet."
Yeah, food made from fresh ingredients satiates you much more. I also think they are far more delicious. The reason why people find processed foods better is because their taste is not developed. Fresh food is more complex taste-wise. That's why people find them less tasty, they mistake sourness, pungency, etc with lack of taste.
Yeah… but vegetables are gross. 😃
Yea fiber and water increase satiety because your stomach/intestines judges by weight and displacement. Fruits and vegetables are mostly water and fiber with very little macronutrients.
@@johnnydropkicks There are plenty of people now who eat no plant foods. They call themselves "carnivores". Actually they seem to be doing okay.
Are they though? They are pretty proud of themselves so I doubt they would announce it was a mistake
Think of the current process food industry the same way you think about drug cartels and the company that made Oxycondone and claimed it was not addictive. These are big businesses getting people hooked on dangerous substances in order to make a profit. Fast food an pop should be on the dangerous drugs list. As he rightly points out this is an artificial solution to an artificial problem. It would be good to see the government bring in proper food safety regulations but why wait? It is not 'your fault' and you do not 'lack willpower' rather, you have been hooked on dangerous substances by the drug dealers. Ironically the slang for a drug dealer in the 1960's was 'the candy man' now that is literally true! If you stop eating processed food you will go through withdrawal symptoms just like any other addict but they will pass and then you will have all the benefits of being, and staying, at a good weight with none of the side effects of taking weight loss drugs.
You make a valid point, but oxycodone is exponentially more difficult to quit than processed foods. Trust me.
I so agree with you. Beginning in 1985 I started fixing all my meals from healthy ingredients. It was tough at first but , once I began experiencing weight loss, I persevered. Forty years later I have not regained the weight and I feel terrific. Of course, that might only apply to me and I would not wish to preach to others.
I grew up in the 60’s and 70’s. People were skinny because so many smoked, took speed and didn’t sit for hours in front of a screen. The food most moms made didn’t taste that good.
yeah, no reason to binge on canned spaghettOs 🤣 plus lets' face it, kids do better running around vs gaming. Gaming sets up sedentary adulthood
Maybe some mothers didn't know how to cook and the food they served to their children didn't taste great. But many other people grew up eating good quality well prepared and well presented meals. I was so lucky that my mother was a really good cook who loved to prepare our meals from scratch with fresh ingredients every day. Neither me nor my siblings had ever had weight problems and when we grew up we knew how to cook for our children. Granted. My mother was a stay at home mom like most mothers back then in the 50s and 60s but my generation had to work apart from raising kids and I always cooked our meals for my children. My children and their cousins never had problems with over weight or over eating. Which let me think that maybe the obesity problem starts at home with parents giving their children a bad example
60's and 70's were mentioned here - a theory I have also RE the difference between the 60s and 70s and even into the 80s - one of the addition things people don't consider happening that made a HUGE difference in "weight gain"? the microwave. i'm a child of the 80s and 90s and PRE MICROWAVE i remember getting home from school- I wanted a frozen burrito. it was 430/5pm. 10 minutes to preheat the oven. 35-45 minutes wrapped in foil to cook burrito. 10 minutes to let it cool. By that time my mom or dad would have dinner ready so i went MEH. no burrito. Now - frozen Burrito. Microwave 2 minutes. Let sit for 45 seconds. eat. The faster access to more foods and the companies making this garbage food with disgusting ingredients and by products and loading it with chemicals? This is another huge reason our country has become obese. No one even really talks about this. Adding in this observation about after work or school sure, people sat in front of the TV - those people were looked down upon generally - now those of us who use a screen for work, then after work we still work in the yard, play with our kids, our pets are the ones who get looked down upon. The normalization of this do nothing behavior is disturbing. We are definitely currently on a path to Wall-E. Want something? Order it on line from your chair while gorging on microwave burritos. God forbid you actually go out and LOOK for that item at a store!
People were thin, or a healthy weight, because we weren’t eating snacks between meals, eating foods made with corn and soy products.
I was anorexic in the 70's.
I'm a diabetic so I take this not for weight loss, but that is a side effect. Why is everyone carrying on like this drug has only just come out? It's been out for over 10 years!!
It was only approved in the US in 2017. But it exploded in popularity a few years ago when celebrities including Kim Kardashian talked about losing weight with it. In 2021, they released the same drug but under the name Wegovy to sell as a weight loss drug, charge more, and classify it separately for insurance purposes.
@TheDeeYawn so give you an idea how stuffed the system is in America, I am Australian, and I'm a diabetic. For a diabetic I pay $17 aus per month. If I am unemployed, it's $7.50 per month. If you are not a diabetic it's $200 per month. While that is great, the problem we have is supply. When these companies have a choice to sell it to us or sell it to other countries that are prepared to pay so much more!
I’m a registered dietitian. There are other very powerful GLP-1 activators. Dietary fiber from whole plant foods are perhaps the best way to affect appetite with only good side effects like lowering cholesterol, blood glucose and risk for many other chronic diseases. 😊
May I ask you a question? What is best or is something best for both glp-1 between soluble and insoluble fibres?
Don’t blame the food in the way or others for your own shortcomings
I started keto with intermittent fasting. Heavily plant based for me with healthy fats and proteins. Started walking and got up to 10 k steps. Most importantly, I gave up alcohol and started drinking water. Since the beginning of the year, I’ve lost 20 lbs, lowered my cholesterol and triglycerides.
@@oldbeergangster2381 probably no difference! There are two fiber “camps”, fibers that dissolve in water and fibers that don’t. Additionally, there are thousand of different geometric shapes that dietary fibers have, many of which are GLP-1 activators once released by our gut microbiota. The amount may be more important than the type but a variety of plant sources is best!
Yes!
My husband had bariatric surgery and while it helped keep him from dying immediately, he just found new fatty foods to eat and just gained the weight and diabetes back.
I have heard that only a small percentage of people getting bariatric surgery reach their goal weight and stay there. Which is also true about all weight-loss diets.
Because the surgery is not the answer to being obese. Obesity is a symptom of a mental illness. Unless that illness (binge eating disorder, PTSD, etc.) is cured, the obesity comes back.
@@iLoveLadyDianaObesity is not a mental illness it's just stuffing your eat hole more than you can burn off with a sedentary lifestyle.
@@iLoveLadyDianaWell, it's not like humanity doesn't have countless ilnessess that we do not have ways to "cure", but have medications that can diminish the concrete negative health impacts ( in some cases completly ) and we just decided the obvious solution is then to make it a life-long consumption of pills and ... it does kind of work.
Yikes! That's terrible that he found new fatty foods to eat and just gained the weight and diabetes back.
I started Ozempic in May of 2023 and quit in December. Lost 50 pounds. It cured my pre-diabetes. Have been maintaining my weight since then by switching to a lower carb diet and an exercise regimen. The drug did make me feeling very frail by the end. I'm feeling much better now and thankful for the chance to hit the reset button on my health.
I'm diabetic, and what happened to you is the same thing I'm striving for. My diabetes caused heart and nerve problems along with a A1C of over 7 all the time. Since taken Ozempic A1C is 6.2 lost 14 lbs and that is only for 3 months and I feel better. Still have to exercise and watch what you eat.
I had gastric sleeve Bariatric surgery in 2013 and lost 90 pounds. Kept it off for around 7 years before slowly starting to creep back up. None of these “fixes” work permanently because of our food problem in this country. This guy is so right. It’s the processed food. The processed food creates the insatiable appetite in certain people. I have had great success with intermittent fasting combined with eating Whole Foods.
We are constantly surrounded by ultraprocessed foods that are ready to eat and optimized to be hyperpalatable. Even when you're not hungry you crave them and keep eating.
Look up Dr. Chaffee and Dr. Berry and the carnivore diet. It truly is the proper human diet. I eat this way for my health. I have MS and carnivore is healing my symptoms. I’ll never stray again. I’ve seen what sugar, carbs and plants have done to my body (and MS) so I can never go back. It is sustainable if one is serious about their health. Be well💙😘
Polyunsaturated fats from cheap industrial seed oils act on endocannabinoid receptors to stimulate the appetite.
Thank you David. That was interesting. The rat study blew my mind.
Something to mention is that the shot is weekly and costs $75 a pop. If you're lucky, it might be covered by insurance. But also they've been running out, and because of all of this I've decided to change my mindset, get active, and change what I eat in order to lose weight. Especially with all of the side effects and fact that as soon as you stop, you will gain it back. If you do NOT change your mindset and habits, it's a bandaid.
Just like diets. It's another fad that's potentially really dangerous this time.
I don't know where you are. In the U.S. it's $1,000 a month .
It is not $75 a week, it's more like $250 per week. If insurance covers most of it, it may be $75 per week.
This is the most impactful video I've seen this year. He made me want to do some sport and eat healthy food so bad.
I am 74 and have lost 70 lbs in 9 months. I no longer test 'borderline' diabetic. I would have killed to have Ozempic in my 40's when I still dated! Geeze, guess I will have to live 30 more years!
I am 59 Y/O and an ex personal trainer/bodybuilder. I have a Nutritional Certification. I eat 5-6 times a day. I portion control and can count my calories (If I choose) If people are going to do this please educate yourself on macronutrients. My A1c is 5.3 (last test) I eat Alot of carbohydrates. I eat what i when I want. I do eat pizza and cook alot of my own food. A thought - Most people know how to balance their checkbook but do not know about nutrition. I am disabled (heart failure) and cannot workout. It can be done if you pay attention to calories. I know if you have alot of weight to lose it can be hard but it takes time. You are about 1 month behind your changes for weight loss. Dont expect it to come off Immedately. I weigh 200 lbs and am lean. I eat around 2000 cals a day. There is alot more I can say but I will stop. Be safe eat your veggies.
Thank you for this excellent conversation. I’m on Ozempic right now for predominantly diabetes type 2 but I was needing to lose weight as well. My experience is identical to the author’s, completely uninteresting in eating and feeling satiated after eating a small amount of food. Interestingly, when I am hungry, I’m craving mostly healthy foods. The junk foods that I loved before are not appealing to me. Another side effect he mentions is something I also relate to. The depression. I think because I would in the past turn to food to fill those mental frustrations. I definitely have a binge eating disorder, so Ozempic has dramatically curbed those food obsessions. I’m going to get his book. I see this as a miracle drug for me; however, I’m very curious about the other side effects he learned about and presents in his book.
I don't really want to see you change from your usual topic, but thanks for covering this interesting phenomenon.
If you haven't done so, consider having Robert Lustig on to talk about processed food, added sugar etc.
LOVE Ozempic! Totally frees you. The freedom from the food addiction.
I support it! Good luck with it!
Unfortunately in some cases people have severe side effects, the best thing to do is to consume a extra large dose of psyllium fiber 20 minutes before your biggest meal. I lost 74 lb this way. And it improved my health. You are injecting yourself with stuff that has an unproven track record to say the least.
Thank you David. Very informative.
Yes thanks for doing this. I hope we can have him back again
This was a great interview David! I've thought about using Ozempic but I have reconsidered. I decided to lose weight the old fashioned way - reduce caloric intake and increase caloric burn. I've lost 5 pounds so far!
Am disagreeing with your guest's comment about food in Japan. They have just as much processed food as the U.S. does. And they are increasingly consuming it more because of convenience. Wait a fee more years and there will be an increase in obesity for them too. I'm hearing that due to their consuming rice and bread at every meal their diabetes rates is above average. What does save them, at the moment, is their portion sizes are significantly smaller that the U.S. That's what Anericans need to adjust, is portion sizes.
I went from 210 to 160, by stopping my workout (power walking). I live in Houston, TX and the weather is often too hot/humid. This forced me to get serious about what I eat. I also bought a medical office type scale. I weight myself every morning and post it in a spreadsheet. I'll do this for the rest of my life. I never eat at fast food restaurants. I'm 6ft 1 inch, male, 63 year old. To maintain this weight, I consume 630 calories per meal. To lose weight, I consume 500 calories per meal. I don't miss my power walking. I may resume walking, however, as I plan to move to California where the weather is better.
Is 160 a good weight for you? It seems low for a 6'1 male. As long as you are happy and healthy, kudos to you, friend! 🙂
@@arcticgoddess By American standards, 160 is probably too low. By European standards (for example), 160 is probably too high. Americans have a huge obesity problem, compared to the rest of the world. I like the slender European look.
@@larryjones9773 stopping or starting to walk?
@@brendapaint stopping
Interesting. By stopping power walking (and other things), your weight decreased? Did you add another form of movement/increase steps? I know you’ve changed what you eat for the better-wonderful!
I’ve been taking it for a few months, my doctor was trying to put me on a higher and higher dose. I started taking less. It’s very powerful. I could go a whole day without any food and be completely fine. In my view I’m very conflicted. I’m thinking I’m going to stop taking it. This past week I was sitting at my desk and randomly felt like puking. I puked a few times this week. Something tells me I should stop.
It's a sign for sure. There is no shortcut / "free lunch". You will loose muscles biig time. It takes time to build muscles.
The reason your doctor was trying to put you on a higher dose is because that's literally what you are supposed to do; start at the lowest dose to see how your body reacts to it, then slowly ramp up. This is a feature, not a glitch. What's concerning is that nobody explained this to you.
@@pjforde1978Most doctor simply do not explain anything they are doing and are resentful if you ask too many questions. The person to ask about medications and the side effects is the pharmacist.
@@HeirOfNothingInParticular it's worth noting that I didn't suggest it needs to be your doctor that does the explaining. My point is that it sounds like this patient was adjusting their own dosage without realizing that the ramp schedule isn't just a suggestion.
@@pjforde1978 It’s worth pointing that that you appear to be speaking for the doctor in telling someone what an MD should have said but didn’t, which lead to my comment about doctors in general. However, my comment did not dispute you or attempt to cast aspersions on you in any way so I’m not sure why you’re bothered by it.
But tell us, how did you acquire the info? From research or from your doctor? Because if you’ve got an MD that spends the time to answer questions, you’ve got a rare one.
I have treated patients with opioid addiction for YEARS! Johann Hari's book:Chasing the Scream, is THE go-to reference for the history of the Opioid Crisis!! I CANNOT WAIT to read his new book!!! Also, I want to say that I have NEVER written a prescription for a "diet pill/drug" in 35 YEARS IN practice, and, I NEVER WILL!
Fasting is a cleaner better way to suppress one's appetite. No cravings at all. I lost twenty pounds gradually over six months. I've kept it off.
I watched a show on Netflix about the microbiome. The organisms in your gut affect everything. The fat person was missing a substance in her gut. So there may be a physical reason for obesity after all.
Many scientists recognize it's not what you want but what your microbiome want that controls a lot of the body and our "decisions." :(
Sorry, but obesity became a thing in late eighties. Before people watched their weight, more than now. I tend to gain weight fast, because i have blood pressure (family genes) I always watch what I eat.
So to me is our own bad habits that is the problem…
@@Tya-8542 I'm sure high fructose corn syrup and MSG being infused into modern food in the 80's had no impact at all. It's all just individual failure.
I don't know if you can blame all obesity on one fat person's gut.
@@Tya-8542 People didn't used to watch their weight. They ate 3 square meals a day prepared by the woman of the house. People only started watching their weight after obesity became common in the general population. Selling books and weight loss programs is a big business, as is selling us fast food and junk food masquerading as "healthy". If it's got a lot of ingredients on the list that don't sound like food, it's not good for you.
I've been in saxenda since January 13th. I've lost 50lbs . I've just started the maximum dose this week, so I've never had to feel nauseous all the time.
I have tho, lost that nagging emptiness that emotional eating made me try to fill.
I eat plain Greek yogurt with berries and Chia seeds in the am,
multigrain crackers, cheese and veggies for snack ,
and trout or chicken and vegetables for dinner.
The effects of that weight loss have been amazing already on my health already. I needed to do it because of a form of brain condition. I am disabled, and with my other conditions, gastric bypass was out of the question.
This saved my life.
I can't exercise. I can't move. Well, actually , because of saxenda,I might have a chance in the future
Positively LOVED this conversation. Fascinating interview. I shared it with 23 people.
David, Gary Taubes and Nina Teicholz have written about what the food industry has done to us. Would be great if you could have them on your show.
Taubes is one of the biggest BSing hacks on the internet. There are far more reliable people Pakman could have on to discuss problems in the food industry.
@@brun4775 You're full of crap. His book Good Calories Bad Calories is extraordinarily well researched and well reasoned.
@@brun4775 Please explain. What has he said that is bullshit? Everything I’ve read of his is corroborated.
My doctor and I agreed during my physical last month that having a proper bodyweight is a lifestyle, not a diet.
easier to hypothesise than follow through w the actual experiment
@@nothingworksworks3511 you should not so quickly misjudge me. I kept a blog last year of my weight loss using my lifestyle theory. I was 225 pounds. Today I am 177. I am 6 foot one and 70 years old.
@@nothingworksworks3511 The unfortunate fact is that the recommended way to lose weight is still to go on a diet, under the assumption that once you reach your goal weight it will be easy to keep it off. There is no evidence that there is any truth to this assumption. Losing weight by willpower alone results in eventually going off the diet and being unable to stop eating when your willpower won't. Weight loss diets fail.
Your diet is what you eat, nothing more, so having a good diet can lead to proper body weight.
@@tschorsch agreed. A good diet is part of a good lifestyle.
Thanks for having this topic, the ozempic.
I started mine because of diabetes (II) and I was severely overweight. Immediately after injecting it just quiets all the food noise that goes on in your head. Things like, "I'll just finish these last couple bites, what's for my next meal, what I need to order". For people like me, who end up always nibbling on something even though you're not hungry.
This closed all that down and I now I know when I need to eat. I'm still adjusting to portion size. Most food I order can now be split into two.
I've lost about 100lbs, and one if my big worries is that I'll stop ozempic, will all that food noise/obsession. I don't want to do. that
Americans want drugs to fix them. The much increased obesity in this country brings on a host of health issues, and multiple drugs to offset. Johann summed it up well. Japan didn’t allow processed food to flood their country.
There's plenty of it now in Japan. The culture and environment is just different. Also they have higher rates of things like stomach cancer, so is anyone really winning?
@@irnbrewhaha Anorexia is also common in Japan.
@@irnbrewhaha They also have a much longer life expectancy, so they are.
My husband lost his gallbladder to it in 4 months. I was on it for 3 weeks and I was sicker than I've ever been in my life. The quiet mind regarding food is quite nice. But everything else is awful. Intermittent fasting is the thing that works best for me.
The food industry took lessons from the cigarette industry, in fact they are the same companies Philp Morris owns Kraft, General Foods, Jell-O, Tombstone, Oscar Mayer, and Louis Rich, among others. I eat whole food plant based & am rarely hungry with a bmi of 23 because my system is full of fiber.
Thanks for this David. I have been on Ozempic for 1 Yr now for diabetes and I do wonder about its side effects. What your guest and so many other health care professionals fail to mention is the effect of alcohol on weight, satiety and health. I am by no means a teetotallar (in fact leaning more in the other direction) but we always blame the food industry but fail to mention the effects of alcohol 🍸 on weight and blood sugars. I really do think it's time we spoke more about this. For all u know drinking could be just as bad for you as smoking. 😢
I love Johann Hari's "Everything You Think You Know About Addiction Is Wrong" Ted Talk.
I am at the 8 minute point but want to respond to the obesity growth. It does not take research to figure this out.
JUNK food became popular. Mothers no longer could afford to stay home, so when both parents go to work, "Happy Meals" come into play.
Second, regular sugars have been replaced with corn syrup. And corn, itself, is so profoundly adulterated (and genetically modified) as to have screwed up human metabolism.
I like watching old Perry Mason episodes. The females in it are what would be a size 2. I wear size 6-8 and would like to lose 10 pounds. The sizes of women's clothing have altered to fit the growing fatter population.
And while obesity IS growing all over the world largely due to the corn syrup additives AND fast food... it still is most severe in the U.S.
I don't think for women and girls that eating is about "feeling full." That has NEVER been part of my life or those of my female friends.
David:
Many people in the UK will remember the difficulty he got himself in while at The Independent.
From Wikipedia: Hari was suspended from The Independent [in 2011] and later resigned, after admitting to plagiarism and fabrications dating back to 2001 and making malicious edits to the Wikipedia pages of journalists who had criticised his conduct.
Johan?
This is just common in today's world scumbags are around every corner, just because they are wearing a suit and sitting in front of a bookshelf don.t mean ****. Look at this felon ronold Rump!!
@@fuzzyspackage His name is Johann Eduard Hari - Scottish mother and Swiss father.
Oh no. Please not another British grifter over here to tell us how we’re living all wrong. See Russell Brand, Piers Morgan, Steve Hilton, Gorka, etc.
I believe he is talking sense here, though.
Let's make those changes!! Our children are owed this.
Excellent, informative interview - thank you!
If the cause of the problem is processed foods, then the obvious solution is to eat freshly-prepared foods instead, not to risk side effects, like "Ozempic Face", by losing control of your life by letting a drug make decisions for you. If you want to feel full, you can eat as many fruits, green vegetables and whole grains as you like and maintain a healthy weight. There are many meal plans for the Mediterranean diet, which follows that principle, available for free online. Or eat like the Japanese do, with small portions of a diet high in seafood and vegetables without heavy fattening sauces --- there are also many recipes online for Japanese cuisine, which is very simple and meditative to prepare. Drugs are a shortcut to what is the real solution to weight loss --- simply don't consume more calories than you are burning, make sure to eat a variety of fresh foods, exercise moderately, get plenty of sleep, and practice mindfulness techniques in order to rid yourself of negative emotional burdens.
KFC isn't using saturated fats. They're using polyunsaturated oxidized seed oils to fry their chicken in.
Ugh. That's much worse.
The chicken skin contains tons of saturated fats and the batter is chock full of carbs. Not to mention the salt and chemical seasoning designed to make it addictive. NOT healthy at all.
So much worse! Must stay away from seed oils!! Tallow/lard, even bacon fat is best. I’m carnivore and use these regularly. 😊
It also decreases gastric emptying time. It also causes a bit of nausea- depending on the patient. These other effects add to the negative drive to eat. You can’t eat as much, you don’t want to eat. You don’t think about eating. Food looks or smells a bit off. And you have no hunger. But- what it also does is takes away some of the muscle mass as well as fat because you are not keeping with protein intake.
American here. I just started a diet of non-processed food. I (think) I’m already feeling a difference. I don’t feel as sluggish as I normally do after eating. I do feel a tiny bit anxious though, but I think that’s just me getting used to no preservatives, no processed sugar, etc.
You may need to eat more high quality fats - olive oil, grass fed butter and cheese, fish oil. Don't fear the fat, it will help feed your brain and you will feel less anxious. If you don't fall asleep within 15 minutes, you need more calories- 1 tablespoon of fat at bedtime will work, no weight gain ❤
Even those ‘healthy’ low sugar (keto) cereals are still ‘processed.’
The fact that most processed food that the food industry makes is bad for you doesn't mean that all processed food is bad for you.
Calories are a measure of thermal energy. The calorie model is based on a closed system in thermodynamics. The human body is not a closed system. The body does not burn every calorie that we consume. Hormones are very much in control of what our bodies do with food energy which in turn dictates what hormones are released by our bodies. Highly processed food is loaded with carbohydrates and sugars. Sugars cause your body to release insulin which in turn tells your body to store that energy. The effects of these drugs further prove the aforementioned.
You with your science!
Thanks for the very thoughtful interview on an important subject. Much appreciated.
I'm taking a GLP-1 and I feel amazing, losing weight, the obsessive food thoughts are quieted and my body feels healthy.
Man, I appreciate this fellow's honesty and hearing his personal story. Really interesting video.
Funnily enough the guy is notably a massive liar lol, not necessarily that he's lying here but very dodgy background
Gen X here… there was definitely overweight people in my 1970’s childhood also every parent on my block smoked. Every one, including the moms at the bus stop , so yes not as much obesity but way more people. , mostly men died of cardiac myocarditis in their 40s or early 50s .. people idealize the past
I googled beaches in 1990 and then 2000. Turns out people don't take a lot of photos of fat people sunbathing.
I'm a teacher and have thought about how so many teachers are overweight, but remember when I was a kid the smoke seeping out from the faculty lounge. We've replaced smoking with chips and chocolate.
Thank you David for this interview. So very important for many of us.
This discussion was SOOO worth it. Thanks. I have struggled with weight my entire life. (Im 70yo and yo/yo’d the whole time)
I had full gastric bypass in December of 2013. I was morbidly obese and Type2 diabetic. It is great for Type 2 diabetics!
In December of 2021 I started with Ozempic. I had issues, Went off in 2022 and then back on it 2023. I lost the weight I needed to, about 25 pounds.
I had to stop. Ozempic is very hard on the digestive system. One if the ways is works is slowing down digestion. That is great!...for your tongue and tastebuds feeling satiated, but nor so great at the other end of the process. Severe constipation is a horrible thing.
I recommend the drug, but truly, you have to be aware of some unpleasant side effects.
You have got to be kidding....
Thank you for this interview. I have been considering taking the drug and I’m nervous. I’m very concerned about the side effects. This book is food for thought.
Please take advice from your doctor and not an author. Consider you have to take these drugs the rest of your life. What are the potential consequences long-term if we're hearing some pretty serious things about it now?
Be careful this drug can cause Gastroparasis which I have not due to this drug though. You don't want to end up with Gastroparasis Google it if you don't know what it is.
@@irnbrewhaha You need a lot more than one source of information. Doctor's often just push the latest fad and are not even up on all of the research. It's important to consult them, but in taking something like this, it may not be enough.
@@tschorschif your dr, especially primary care, is pushing a fad, you need a new doctor. You should trust them with a lot more serious things than a diet drug. It's not enough here because there is no sound consensus yet. A good doctor will say what they know and admit what they don't. Then weigh the risks and benefits. Most people aren't going to read things like studies or properly interpret them so will rely on media reports, the people selling the drug and now social media to inform them. And most people aren't media literate enough to separate the good from the bad. Ideally you should do all of this, but for the average person "talk to your doctor" is the safest advice to give.
Reducing food cravings and staying full longer after eating would be an answer to my prayer.
Great interview - perfect in the type of questions, information and length.
Like Ben Stiller's character on The Simpsons, as the president of "Mother Loving Sugar company," said about sugar, "It's side effect is GREATNESS!"
Exactly we eat if we are depressed or happy. We eat even when we are not hungry we over prepare and after we gorge ourselves we throw away more food than most cultures consume. We over indulge and feel guilty about it then we do it again and again. About kids I never see kids outside running around playing riding bikes. It's not natural to keep a kid couped up in front of a TV or phone playing video games. Get them out side and let them be kids.
I agree about kids these days. The kids on my little, safe dead end road all get picked up by parents cars when the school bus drops them off, so they don’t walk the half mile to their houses. None ride bikes or even are outside much, and we live in the country.
Thank you JOhann Hari, excellent.
I recently talked to my doctor about these drugs. She says I can set up an appointment with her and we can look into it. My asthma has gotten worse with aging and I am on prednisone. I have gained 32 lbs from being on this drug. If the choice is down to being overweight vs breathing, breathing always wins. Unfortunately, I don't feel like myself anymore.
I have taken both Ozempic and Mounjaro. I’m a diabetic and Mounjaro works better for me than Ozempic, I’ve been forced to use Ozempic because TOO MANY FAT PEOPLE have been taking it to only lose weight. I need the medication in that it’s better for me as a diabetic, it has greatly improved my A1C, my glucose level. I’ve been forced to use Ozempic because there is a shortage of Mounjaro. I don’t suffer from loss of muscle because I do weight training 2-3 times a week knowing these drugs do affect muscle loss. I knew that from my beginning of taking these drugs.
Yes. Fat people losing weight is such a terrible thing.
Fuck off.
Most celebrities aren't actually fat, they just want to lose weight to fit in a smaller dress...alot of regular not really fat people are doing the same
My complaint is that I need Mounjaro for my “medical condition”. I have no complaint if people want to use Ozempic for that, but quit clogging up the supply chain for people that need Mounjaro for the reason the drug was meant to be used and that is to help in controlling diabetes. I’ve carried an extra 50 lbs over the last 40 years and it’s definitely helped me lose the weight I don’t need but my diabetic “numbers” have never been as good as they are now. That’s the Main reason for the medication, losing the weight is a byproduct for my real need.
What they don't tell you is at least in Washington State under my friends insurance ozempic is 900.00 a month and they say You're supposed to take it forever
I am on Medicare. My cost is 300.00 a month. If I wasn’t on Medicare, I could get it for 25.00 a month. Very irritating. It is helping my Blood sugar though, so I will continue with it. But, come on….it doesn’t make sense to me at all.
Actually that’s been out in the open for quite some time
Interesting conversation. As a young woman, 40 years ago, I had long, beautiful fingernails. I took good care of them and kept them polished. I received many compliments. Then, artificial nails came along. Now, they are no longer special. I imagine it is the same with Ozempic. Some individuals have spent hours in the gym, constantly watching their diets. Now, all you need is a pill.
At one time I weighed nearly 300lbs. That’s when I found out that I was diabetic. I was 39. After I started on Medication I started to lose some weight. But it was only about 25 lbs. I had spent my high school years worried about my weight. My mother had taken bread out of my diet
because a doctor said that I was a bit cubby for my age. My mom was concerned so as I grew up I was concerned. If my mom was worried something was wrong.So I started dieting when I was about 16 1/2. After that it never stopped. I got married at 18 to my 21 year old husband. 1 year later I had a baby girl. My max weight while I was pregnant 165 lbs. I lost 20 lbs of the 35 lbs I had gained in baby weight and I got pregnant again. This time I gained just over 50 lbs. So i was just over 200lbs. I tried exercising, cutting my portions of food down. You know the story, lose 10 gain 15. When I was in my late 30s I tried the first Atkins diet and lost 55 lbs. It was noticeable even though I still weighed 225. I dropped down to 203. Then we moved.
Threw everything askew and I was trying to fix our new house up, I was so distracted
I stopped thinking about diets.
As I was in my 50’s and was 250 lbs and my doctor kept on me to lose weight before it was too late. That’s when I considered weight loss surgery. I know what this young man was thinking when he said that he felt like he was
cheating, he felt like he had failed. That’s what I felt “you don’t have the fight and will power to just do this yourself?” So I didn’t go for the surgery. However in 2021
surgery found me when I was diagnosed with cancer. Now I weigh 120 lbs but it was the hardest way to lose weight. I agree that the American diet of processed food is killing everyone in this country. It’s up to the individual to keep processed foods out of your cupboards. Although these companies don’t give you much choice.
food industry 🤝 big pharma 💰
yep, you beat me to it.
or you can stuff your face with fatty, sugary, salty 'goodness'
or you can buy a pill (at american prices) and the urge is lessened
or surgeons/doctors (at american prices, again) can stitch you up
It's all about the mighty $$$$
This was an eye-opener. Short, sweet & methodical in nature.
It's not that it makes you not hungry, it makes you feel full. You become uneasy with the thought of eating more. My whole life i was trained to eat everything on my plate no matter what, this breaks that in your mind.
Thank you David for this episode. It's really good.
I feel sorry for kids now. Nobody cooks dinner anymore they just order food delivery.
No exercise either 😢
Almost everyone I know of makes their own meals fresh, even more so after the pandemic...especially for their kids.
I food prep because I love my family.
Sadly I grew up on it. It's all I know. Thanks Mom. Happy mother's Day :'(
It sure seems to be true. Take out fast food lines are rarely short. Some kids don't even know what a casserole is.
I had type 2 diabetes and went on Ozempic for about 4 months. During that time my stomach would stop emptying for 2-3 days at a time, during which food would go rancid in my stomach, and give me food poisoning for 2 days.
As horrible as it was I was able to reset my insulin resistance, but this was the first medicine I've been prescribed that gave me the symptoms mentioned at the end of the advertisements =(
That should not have happened. Something else must be going on, food does not usually just sit in the stomach. It's also highly acidic and the food cannot generally rot, unless you're taking something to reduce the acid level.
What a terrific interview, with great insights offered by Johann. Thanks very much to both of you for doing this!