Train-Tech SS Sensor Signals - Completely Automatic Signalling - For DC and DCC!
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Train-tech have just launched Sensor Signals - completely automatic colour light signals with everything including the sensor built into the signal!
Signals change automatically just like the real thing and you can use one on its own or for more exciting modelling fit multiples to make up complete block signalling - just one wire links them together!
Alongside these a new Mimic panel switch where you can remotely view and control each signal plus see where your train is on your layout!
Fully automatic, no separate circuit boards, sensors or wiring, all work on DC or DCC, and above affordable starting at £40 and easy; to see just how easy have a look at this video….
Sensor Signals are available now from www.gaugemaster.com/train-tech and Train-Tech dealers.
To view our new 20 page brochure see here: ccgi.dcpmicro.p...
LOVE IT, i have no choice,i'll buy a load of them for my layout. Fantastic product.
This is great!!!
Wil be buying some of these very soon
I like your ideas. Simple and effective. Must get some of these. Hope to see you at a show soon. Laurie (sci-fi).
Thank You :)
I like this product but what about a Station area when you want to put signals on a platform??
You state that analogue DC needs 2 power wires. Do these wires need to be soldered? I’m not great at soldering. What voltage do these power wires require? Thanks
Hi, if you are running on analogue then we do recommend soldering wires to the signal and using a 12V Smooth DC supply to power them. If you struggle with soldering then if you purchase the signals directly from us we can arrange to have the wires pre-attached for you.
Will you be doing a version of this that doesn't look so 'train-set'? eg loose the track contact strips, panel mount the signel post directly to the board and have all the wires underneath? I would be a great item if you can offer one so most of the 'stuff' that makes it work is hidden under the board (sensor excepted).
Hi, thanks for your question.
We have the slide in contact fingers as some modellers cannot solder and this enables them to fit the signals to DCC track directly without soldering. However the instructions show that these can be completely cut off and power wires soldered in from underneath the signal if preferred - similarly the wire which links this signal to adjacent signals can also be soldered from underneath.
I hope that reassures you.
Can you mix SS3 with SS5's linked by the same wire? Or does it have to be all the same model ie SS3 +SS3 + SS3 etc
Hi David, You can mix any of the signals with the Layout Link together in any order you wish. They can also be linked with the Level Crossing Light, and Relays too. If you have further questions, pleases email us at traintech@gaugemaster.co.uk
Very clever...
Can I take the signal head off the pole and put it on a gantry and extend wires from base to the head and leave bace under track by gantry?
Not on the Sensor Signals themselves but you can create a gantry with our SC100 unit and the signal head kits.
@@TrainTech thanks
im confused as to why u need power wires for dc signals as the clip really do the same job as it draws power from both rails?
As DCC is a constant 12v power supply around the track, where as DC is a regulated 12V as you turn your controller up amd down, meaning the signals would switch off when the train stops.
Hi, thanks for your question. Its because the power on DC tracks varies from 0 volts upwards so if the signals take their power from the track they would go on and off depending on the track power, whereas DCC power is constant and always there.
Maybe adding a component which can automatically slow then stop loco's on a red then proceed on a green. In other words full automation
Many thanks for your suggestion. We have thought of trying to control the locomotives but it really isn't easy, especially for DCC layouts as you have to take over control of the particular loco approaching the signal.
Our signals work in exactly the same way as 'real railway' automatic signals which are normally green and then change to red as the train goes past to protect that 'block' and prevent any other train entering the same block so, hopefully, avoiding any collision in that block. The signal automatically clears when the next signal sees the train pass it.
We will keep working on new things through - watch for some exciting new products from Train-Tech this autumn.
Thanks again for your feedback.
Hi, I have 2 sensor signals on my layout, one works perfectly the other no so much….. I’m just going to solder it to the track as it constantly day to day loses power.
I’ve never soldered before so stupid question, does each wire have to be soldered to each separate track….. ie 1 wire to + and 1 to negative?
Also the signal is well balastered in. Will it work with soldering with out cutting the fingers off??
Thanks
Hi Richie, Yes it is possible to solder it as you suggest, and yes you will need to solder both the legs. With the signal in position, simply use the contacts that would normally touch the rail as your solder pads, these can then be soldered to each rail. I would suggest doing this on the outside of each rail to avoid any derailments too. If you have any other questions or require clarification, please do feel free to contact us.
@@gaugemastercontrols3617 Hi, that’s great, I was thinking of all manner of drilling through ballast or soldering from the solder points. But as you say just soldering the fingers makes perfect sense and will be so much easier!! Many thanks 👍👌
@@Mapplewell_Park No problem at all. If you have any further questions, please do feel free to reach out.
What would happen if the lights were not connected by the wires?
Each signal needs 2 connections for power and this can be obtained either by plugging the signal into some types of track like a power clip or soldering 2 wires on for separate power feed. You can also link them by a single wire between each signal to make them work together in block sections, but if you just use them on their own they change from green to red as the train passes and then back to green again 7 seconds after the last part of the train has passed them. You can find details on @t including the user manual. Free brochure also available on the website or can be posted on request. Thank you
Please can you advise what happens if an over long train triggers two sensors at the same time?
Hi, If the train goes over 2 Sensor Signals simultaneously they will both change to red until the train has passed it. (On the real railway this never happens as trains are never long than a block distance between signals). I hope that helps - you can download the instruction manual for Sensor Signals and most of our products from our train-tech.com website.
Can the black block that holds the signal be removed as i hope to use it with the Beko signals on while out already
Hi, thanks for your message.
Better than that we now offer a Signal controller with the sensor and electronics but with terminals for connecting to other LED colour light signals like Berko. The Automatic signal controller is called the SC100 and can be seen here:
www.dcpexpress.com/sc100-automatic-colour-light-signal-controller-p-789.html
Or if you would like a copy of our new free catalogue please email us with your name and address to sales@dcpmicro.com
Thanks
Regards, Train-Tech
Is it smart enough to properly display lighting if a 2nd locomotive enters a green or yellow block ?
Assuming there is more than one sensor signal connected together, as it detects a train going passed the signal it changes to red and then stays red until the train has left the block
Great signals 👍 If I were to have a block system, what happens if I have a long train go over multiple blocks, would this cause any problems with the signals?
Hello, thanks for your question. Any Sensor signal which has a train (not just loco) go past it stays on red until 7 seconds after the last part of the train has gone over it or until the next signal in the block clears it, so it will stay red. If you would like a catalogue you can either send your address to sales@dcpmicro.com or visit www.train-tech.com/index.php/brochure Thanks
@@TrainTech thanks 👍 sorry to be a pain, if I were to use the signal standalone, I like the idea of 7 seconds after it has cleared, would it be possible to change this time via DCC or anything as this might be a bit short for a slow train leaving a station? Thanks 😀
HI, no problem helping. No the 7 seconds is fixed, however note that it is 7 seconds after the very last part of the train has passed over it so it is not going to change from red until the complete train is clear.
@@TrainTech Nice 👍 I guess I could have a sensor / signal connected to the first signal so I can create a realistic timing between that block. Then after that the train should have picked up enough speed to be around 7 seconds block time. 😀
@@McMetro Yes you can connect other Sensor Signals or Track Sensors to the first signals and they will work as blocks, it is only when the linking ends that the last signal in the chain clears after 7 seconds. You can find a PDF of the Sensor Signal manual around half way down this page: www.train-tech.com/index.php/signalling/sensor-signals-fully-automatic-signalling
What happens if the loco changes direction between signals ?
If a train goes back through signals the wrong way (as in single line working) all linked signals turn red.
I wonder if there is going to be a semaphore version?
Hi, We will be making a controller to work with Dapol Semaphore signals. Link an SC300 with a ST1 track sensor. See our website for more details. SC300 available soon.
Ok thanks!
Please, can you tell me, from where i can buy track and train model for my experiment.
Hello, thanks for your question. We do not sell track and trains and I am not sure where you are located, but in the UK there are model shops in many towns or if you do not have a store in your town online retailers like www.gaugemaster.com and derails.co.uk for example have ranges of track and trains from Hornby and Bachmann. If you are not in the UK use a web browser to search for model trains to find local shops or online retailers. I hope that helps.
does this detect the locomotive only or does it include unlighted rolling stock ?
Hi, it detects any loco or stock going over it. Only when the train is out of the block will the signals clear another train to go in.
More details are shown in our new 20 page brochure, free on request with an email to sales@dcpmicro.com
Will these connecting wires be able to be purchased in different lengths to each signal?
Hi, thanks for your question. It is not a special wire, just virtually any standard single core wire (e.g. 1/0.6mm) which you cut to length to suit the distance between your signals. It really is that easy!
no N Gauge yet? waiting patiently
Will these work with kato unitrack?
Hi, they are OO/HO and although the fingers will not slide into Kato track the fingers can be removed and two power wires fed to them.
For more information and to view the instruction booklet see www.train-tech.com/index.php/signalling/sensor-signals-fully-automatic-signalling
stunning.Ive already bought a 3 aspect signal and one 2 aspect without the sensor in, can this be made to work with the sensor versions ?
Hello Chris, I'm afraid our regular DCC fitted signals do not have the Layout Link sockets on them to be able to link to our new sensor signals. However you can always use the DCC signals you already have as starter signals and if required you can also manually override the new Sensor Signals using DCC if you wish as they also have a decoder built in, even though they can run completely automatically on DC or DCC without needing any external control.
thanks for the comment
Train-Tech wow thats brilliant, it doesnt say that in the vid that theyre also manually controlled if desired...? maybe me but didnt notice.. great bit of kit!!
Well done, Do you gave these for Lionel Tubular Track?
• Cheers from The Detroit & Mackinac Railway 🚂
Hello, The Sensor Signals only slide directly into track with slots for a power clip such as Bachmann or Hornby, but you can wire to them from DC or DCC to work with any OO/HO Track system.
Hi, thanks for your message.
The signals will only slide into track with suitable slots for power clips like Bachmann and Hornby, however you can remove the slide in fingers and use them with most HO or OO track systems, just connecting them to DC or DCC power with two wires.
I hope that helps
Do these hook up to EZ Track
Hi, the signals can be mounted next to almost any OO or HO track, but only certain types of track have two slots under the rails for power clips, and these signals, to just plug in. If your track doesnt have these slots you can just remove the slide in connections and solder 2 wires to feed the power. You can find details on @t including the user manual and a brochure. Thank you
I’ve got dc so if I slide it in will
Hi, thanks for your question. If you run DC you cannot plug it into the track for power because when the train is slow down or stopped the signal will not light. So you cut off the slide in fingers and fit 2 wires instead - we can do this for you at no extra cost if you ask before you order.
I hope that helps.
@@TrainTech yes please
@@railwaysthatarefun4531 Thanks - if you do place an order just add a note in the comments box on our webshop (dcpexpress.com) or if you order by phone (01953 457800) that you would like us to remove the two slide in fingers and fit wires and this will be done free of charge.
You can do it with arduino for 1/10th $$$
You can nearly always make something cheaper yourself, but not everyone is capable or wants to make their own signals, design control hardware and write software. This development took us around a year to design, tool and engineer and we are a professional business employing 5 people and designing and manufacturing everything in the UK.