I was analysed True Autumn and was specifically explained to me, that bright warm colours are overpowering me and my best colours are actually in all the three Autumn sub seasons because they don't bring difference on my appearance , i've also received a lot of " best colours" and are an combination from all three Autumn sub groups! So i agree completely! When i put warm bright colours on me i don't look good even there is the right temperature, i have to pay more attention on chroma,softness must be added! 😊
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Love that someone finally answered this question! I think there is so much confusion out there about “True” seasons. I’ve been professionally analyzed as a True Summer in the definition you’re using now and I can tell you, it’s spot on!! I don’t have a sister season but I get to enjoy ALL the range of summer colors and I love it 🥰
Thanks for the clarification. This confirms my self analysis as a deep winter. I have a cool undertone and high contrast. I look good in black. I look awful in bright winter colors, but really good in olive green, brick red, dark brown and eggplant. I like your system very much! 😊👍👍❤💜💙🧡
I am a deep winter But I can wear olive green and dark brown which are in dark autumn which is my sister season I can wear light winter in the summer when I have more of a tan
That might well be the truth. I am a spring in the four season system, but don't know my subtype. What I know is that if I "borrow" from autumn it tires me, my skin doesn't shine, even though I really like the colours and as much as I'm attracted to winter colours, they "wear" me, rather than the other way around. I also tried some light spring colours and I could wear them, whereas I am "dark" for a spring, in terms of having dark brown natural hair and brown eyes.
I'm self analyzed Soft Summer but I was a little bit confused by the colors that my skin actually tolerates. Some of the colors in the Soft Summer palette are too warm and muted (shop experience :) but I can wear Light Sommer and Cool Summer colors very well if they have some softness in it. In the same time before I used to wear a lot of Cool Winter colors and they looks very good on me but too bright. Warm colors make me look sick, very yellowish - cooler is better. But I can't wear clear colors also. May be True Summer is the answer 😄 Well, it doesn't matter now because when I shop I choose by coolness and softness, not too dark colors, and somehow I stay in the right palette for me. The main test remains freshness of the skin when I try the garment, so... But Interesting to know 🙂
Hello from Canada. I enjoy your channel very much😊. This made so much sense to me! I had my colours analyzed in the eighties by a colour me beautiful consultant. The seasons weren’t divided into 3 groups then. After discovering your season, she rated 36 different colours from your season on a scale from 1 - 10. Ten being your best etc. Just thought you’d like a little history on my colour analysis experience 😊
The confusion comes i think because some systems like Sci Art replace the warm/cool palettes for the seasons with the "true" seasons and most 16 palette systems have both and the true seasons are a "Goldilocks" palletes that they have all qualities of the season and none of the others. They aren't on any borders or have any flows or sister palettes.
@@sarahryanthestylecoach I agree. As one in a temperature dominant palette I am definitely warm dominant not balanced between warm, light, and bright. Warm definitely works better than "true". True only gets spring where warm is a border palette between spring and autumn. CMB and House of Colour teach this way as do you, Carol Brailey and a few others. It just makes more sense.
Thank you, this is making me think! I am predominantly cool, the other categories are less important, but I'm closer to Summer than to Winter... So in your system I think that wouldn't count as True Summer because I borrow more easily from Winter than from Light Summer or Soft Summer? Or have I totally misunderstood?
I'm still learning but I got typed as a warn autumn. In some systems, that actually means you are a true warm palette, which is actually a palette between spring and true autumn. I originally thought that warm autumn was the same as true autumn but in some systems that is not the case. The true autumn is actually slightly deeper that the warm autumn palette. The true autumn colours are a touch too deep for me.
Hey Sarah, a little bit off topic, but I loveeee your jewellery.. especially your rings and earrings in almost every video. Do you mind telling me where you get them from? I'm from Germany, so any online sources (if there are any) would be appreciated:) Also, loved the video! Thank you very much :)
Thank you! My rings are from a designer at The Rocks market in Sydney. I’ve tried to find her name can’t! My necklace is from Betty and Biddy. My drop earrings are Chanel and the other ones are from One Dame Lane and Pierced ☺️
Cool summer may be my sub season. I’ve noticed that I really need some contrast and I can handle it well. More muted summer colors just don’t give me vibrancy. But then I have to be careful with winter colors, some of which I can borrow. Black may be too overpowering for me without makeup, but otherwise I can pull it off.
Dear Sarah, I always enjoy your colour analysis video. I live in Switzerland, are there style coaches by these subseasons methode? Is this house of colours, Color Me Beautiful, how is it called for? Thank you very much for your help.
This makes so much sense ! Before I got my analysis I had already narrowed it down to Autumn but I couldn't figure out which sub season I was so I tried my potential sister seasons and they all looked awful ! Yes, I'm a true autumn !
Hi Sarah, I am a recent subscriber. I am really enjoying your videos. This video on being a "true" version in a seasonal palette was a genius explanation. I had my color analysis done and I am a dark winter...which I believe is true- or I am on the border of True winter. .To your point..I can wear more colors from the other sub season winter palette than I can borrow from my "sister" season...dark autumn. I love being a winter... and I want to incorporate more color close to my face. thanks so much!
I have to say that I am still struggling a bit with finding my changed colours with ageing! Would love a video on that subject; although suspect everyone is different? I was a happy deep autumn for several decades, until my hair started having some grey, I have coloured it slightly lighter and lighter until light, warm brown and my eyes have naturally gone from deep olive to mid green, a lot lighter and more greeen. The original consultant retired, so went to another and was told warm autumn now, but colours can be a bit too warm on me, the soft autumn is too faded looking. Another one draped me as bright spring and yet another as warm spring. I am just wondering if its possible to go from muted to bright with age, surely your colours soften a bit? I don't feel happy in very bright colours at all and some of the spring feels too light. Once I've had one of these "new" consultations, am happy for a few weeks and buy some new clothes, only to find they are not really working and am disappointed again. Any ideas about how we change with age? Some consultants say we don't change at all, but the deep autumn is definately too dark and dulled down now and makes me look slightly ill.
Yes, you are right, of course, but I have paid out for three consultations since lockdown and getting very discouraged by it all, as you can imagine?! @@sarahryanthestylecoach
I am very interested in the topics you have in your videos. About colours; the names of the colours, are they always the same? Take for example lemon yellow. Is it always x% yellow and y% blue in it ? Or do i take a chance every time i shop lemon yellow online? Or electic blue, fuchisa etc. It is difficult to shop online when the colour just is namned yellow. If i order the same top two times, i can get two different colours. That has happend to me. I would like you to make a video about that so i can learn the name on the specific colours i like so i can shop them. Thank you.
Can you do one on sub seasons? Like dark autumn. Would we do better in dark winter or true or light autumn? Sometimes I feel the true autumn is to saturated and the soft autumn is too light but wonder if the warmth is still more important over cool of dark winter?
I got one in the late 80’s and I was an autumn and another one 2 years ago and I am dark autumn. But I don’t look good in some of the true autumn colors. She thought I was true autumn at first but I went back because I told her I didn’t look good in some of the colors. Then she said I was dark. I can’t believe I’m anything else just from self diagnosing but maybe I’m dark autumn through and through and can pick and choose from other autumn sun seasons and dark winter but can only use some colors from each.
This video really made me think, Sarah, and I enjoyed that. So, if a true season has balanced characteristics, then the subseasons will have dominant and less dominant characteristics. For example, a Deep Autumn's dominant characteristic will be deep(ness), then muted and warm (in varying proportions for the latter 2)? A Soft Autumn's dominant characteristic will be soft(ness), then muted and warm (again in varying proportions for the latter 2)? It therefore makes sense that a Deep Autumn would be able to borrow from the other deep season and a soft season would be able to borrow from the other soft season. And because a True Autumn would not have brightness in her colour characteristics, she then would not be able to borrow from True Spring and find the colour suited her well. She would find colours from other autumn palettes would work better for her. Makes sense to me!
Yes it's not that the true seasons have less or more dominant characteristics but in fact the opposite, there is nothing dominant or 'weaker', just equal in its qualities.
Hello, Sarah. I love your channel. I was a BeautiControl consultant and did color analysis way back in the 90's and have always believed that we should ignore the trends and wear what looks best on us. So many of my summer friends were incorrectly analyzed as spring and I hope you will find a true spring model to show everyone the difference. I was always told that spring is the rarest season and hate seeing summers wearing the wrong season. Have a lovely day!
As long as warm and cool are draped correctly (and colored hair is covered during the draping) it should take care of that problem. I actually had the reverse happen to me. I am a warm spring who was incorrectly analyzed as summer the first time my colors were done. The two seasons do have cross over with the light value which often confuses new analysts testing their wings. Springs not only are warmer but they are also brighter with clear chroma and high intensity for their light value and warm undertones. Summers are soft and muted for their light value and cool undertones. This makes them look rosy and dusty vs the spring who looks tropical like a bird of paradise. People often confuse light value for coolness, ability to tan vs burn and other value issues for undertone issues. I think this may cause the reason why some summers and springs get confused for the other. Value= light, medium, and deep and anything to do with fair, light, tan, burn, etc have to do with surface coloring changes or straight up value of our coloring. They are value words. Undertones are warm, neutral, cool. Only thing associated with that is that. Intensity, chroma etc is brightness, saturation, etc. so words like softness, blended, muted go with this one. Spring: warm undertone, light to medium value, clear or bright in chroma or intensity Summer: cool undertone, light to medium value, soft or muted intensity or chroma. Hope that helps anyone confused between the two seasons.
Thanks so much for your video. I was analyzed a month ago as a True Autumn. 90% of my wardrobe is cool (mostly Winter) so I’m having to adjust my thinking and buying a totally different set of clothing colours. Your clarification has helped and makes sense because I don’t feel that warmth is my primary characteristic, although important, and most Spring colours are too bright for me. Thanks!
Yes, that makes so much sense. Otherwise as cool winter/summer or warm spring/autumn you are wondering why you can borrow colours from your sister season way better than from the other subseasons. And it broadens the posibilities to really know if you should stay completely in your season or if colours from your sister season look great on you as well.
Exactly, it doesn't make sense at all ! These 16 subcategories or i've heard even more 20,22 make space for individualising a person appearance in conjunction with a larger range of colours and some people are rarity among colour analysts because nobody can actually "fit" them in just 12 sub categories season!
It makes a lot of sense. As a winter (never got a sub season typing) I puzzled as I knew I couldn’t wear the brighter pinks and reds. The seasons set out your new way makes a lot more sense and I think I’m a cool winter because of that. With self-draping I realised the really bright pinks make me look over heated, and a bright pink that’s ever so slightly warm makes me look weirdly blotchy and shadowed. I never get tired of seeing what colours do to people!
I so agree with this. I’m a cool winter and I cannot for the life of me wear true summer colors especially the gray pastels. I can borrow some colors from dark and bright winter with no issue.
Great explanation! I do think that even within the 'true' categorie people can differ. And that each individual is somewhere on the scale of warm/cool - bright/soft - light/dark. I am a true summer but I am on the softest side, and can't handle too light colours very well. So I avoid the brightest from cool summer, and the lightest from light summer ;) I think that could help too. To define how cool, light and soft you are and stay within that range.
Meaning you're a soft summer that can borrow from true summer and soft autumn,or you're typed a true summer that can't borrow soft autumn very well, but can look good in soft summer colors/shades as well as your true summer palette and better then other summer sub seasons?
@@ingridpear1882 I mean that even if you are in a certain categorie, you are still on a scale. Not every soft summer or cool winter is exactly the same. Yes in general they all have the same in common, the softness or coolness. But some people are for example more towards neutral in warmth/coolness, and can wear for example both soft summer and soft autumn very well, even if they are soft summer. Others are more cool and can wear some soft autumn but not all. That depends on the person. I am a true summer, and although I can wear cool summer, light summer and soft summer, not all the colours are equally great. Which is logical because otherwise I would be that subcategory right? Sorry long answer. I think Carol Brailey shows that well if you want to explore that more.
I've had my analysis as a Cool Summer able to borrow colors from Cool Winter plus Summer pallets. But now it seems like I'm a true Summer? I'm getting a bit confused
That's all very interesting but if you were doing an online consultation would it be trickier or more complicated to get an accurate reading ?...Really enjoy your videos Sarah.
I loved your explanation! I knew this already but when you look online the answer you get is what you explained first. it can be confusing when trying to look for your colours, true summer here, and you are just given cool summer instead which some of them would be too intense for me.
Great color analysis explanation. I WANT your outfit because I am a very true winter. What I did not hear you discuss is contrast. I am not only a true winter, but find I need contrast in my fabrics. Beyond that, I have soft features and need softer lines in my garments style and fabric prints. I have silver white hair and I usually dress to compliment that feature. I enjoy your video immensely. Keep up the great work because you are so informative and fun to watch.
Great explanation! Your logic makes a lot of sense; however, I think that the main contributor to the confusion around colour anaylsis as a whole (by not just you but also the multitude of other analysts past and present) is the reuse and recycling of established terminology for newer, more avant garde, definitions. Under your original system, I think that original coined terms like "Balanced Summer" or "Balanced Autumn" would be much more intutitve (and, dare I say, less misleading) compared to the reuse of established terms like "True Summer" or "True Autumn."
Is a true summer treating the two seasons beside it really equal to it's own central slot on the color wheel,or as sub seasons/sister seasons? Are some "trues" really not able to borrow little bits from all the "sisters" to what it equally shares? vs,some true summers only being able to treat the other sub seasons as sister,and maybe borrow a touch from cool summer? If someone was a cool summer for example,can they really mostly just borrow from cool winter,but not true summer? Or would they follow that with borrowing true summer,then all the other summers before borrowing from other winter sub seasons? Or is it better for them to borrow the cool season first,then both true summer (the one in-between soft and light without sharing equally assuming your system might have an individual color fan/gradient that isn't just a combination of the three subseasons) and true winter? What's next for a cool/temp dominant season to borrow after it's main sister season? vs what direction a true should go after it's season?
This is why I like the 16 season model. A Deep/Dark/Cool Summer is closer to Winter, but a True Summer should stick to their season. 12 seasons just doesn't seem like enough choices to me - most people won't fit neatly into even 16!
@@sarahryanthestylecoach Love your videos though and love this look today. Where did you train? I'd love to become a colour analyst but I'm not sure where to start!
This is an awesome way to look at it as I am typed a cool winter and I think you’re right. The muted colors of true summer don’t look as good as when I borrow from the other winters, although they don’t look bad, I am not muted. Well done!
Thank you!! This finally answers the question for me. I was draped as a winter 30ish years ago before sub seasons existed. I’ve always known I’m cool, bright & deep. Choosing between them has never made sense to me. I also have medium to light olive overtone, which eliminates any possibility of crossing over. Great video!
the difference that i noted between 12 season and 16 season system is that cool winter from 16 is not exactly as the same as true winter from 12 seasons (i will talk about winters cause im a winter). in 12 seasons dark winter is the LEAST intense subseason out of winters (since its the only season that borders with soft season), true winter being in the middle (because it doesnt border with summer in that system, so nothing bleeds softness to it), while in 16 seasons dark winter is the second one after bright winter, when it comes to intensity. i never understood why the creator of the 16 season system, whoever that was, would randomly flip softness of dark winter with cool winter and decide that cool winter would be less intense than dark winter, when they both border with soft season now. my thought is - they should at least be equal in intensity. you can have supercool undertone, but that shouldnt automatically mean you're less bright than if you were mostly dark. these are 2 different features. so true winter 12 is a bit different palette than cool winter 16. its also different from true winter 16, since in your system u have to wear all subseasons at the same level, while true winter from 12 differs from bright winter and dark winter, which have some warmth to them from sister seasons. its also not as bright as bright winter and not as soft as dark winter. so its like true winter is some entirely different palette. that's why i prefer to call myself true winter from 12 seasons. that palette is my favourite.
I agree with your approach 100%. Makes perfect sense. A lot of other channels are so confusing. I love your channel.
Thank you so much Sue! Delighted to have you as part of the community 💕☺️
I was analysed True Autumn and was specifically explained to me, that bright warm colours are overpowering me and my best colours are actually in all the three Autumn sub seasons because they don't bring difference on my appearance , i've also received a lot of " best colours" and are an combination from all three Autumn sub groups! So i agree completely! When i put warm bright colours on me i don't look good even there is the right temperature, i have to pay more attention on chroma,softness must be added! 😊
Nice! It sounds like you have a great understanding of your season 🍁🍂
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Thank you so much Maria! It was a pleasure having you on the course and remember, you are welcome back any time to review and refresh :)
Love that someone finally answered this question! I think there is so much confusion out there about “True” seasons. I’ve been professionally analyzed as a True Summer in the definition you’re using now and I can tell you, it’s spot on!! I don’t have a sister season but I get to enjoy ALL the range of summer colors and I love it 🥰
Exactly!! It makes so much more sense!
Thanks for the clarification.
This confirms my self analysis as a deep winter. I have a cool undertone and high contrast. I look good in black. I look awful in bright winter colors, but really good in olive green, brick red, dark brown and eggplant. I like your system very much! 😊👍👍❤💜💙🧡
Happy you like it! :)
I really like your approach. It makes logical sense and you can see it.
Thank you so much ☺️
Your thoughts about the true seasons makes total sense to me. It's basically going back to the four season palettes.
Glad you think so ☺️💕
I am a deep winter But I can wear olive green and dark brown which are in dark autumn which is my sister season I can wear light winter in the summer when I have more of a tan
Nice!
That might well be the truth. I am a spring in the four season system, but don't know my subtype. What I know is that if I "borrow" from autumn it tires me, my skin doesn't shine, even though I really like the colours and as much as I'm attracted to winter colours, they "wear" me, rather than the other way around. I also tried some light spring colours and I could wear them, whereas I am "dark" for a spring, in terms of having dark brown natural hair and brown eyes.
Yes very possible to have dark features but not be a dark/deep season. Commonly mistyped :)
I'm self analyzed Soft Summer but I was a little bit confused by the colors that my skin actually tolerates. Some of the colors in the Soft Summer palette are too warm and muted (shop experience :) but I can wear Light Sommer and Cool Summer colors very well if they have some softness in it. In the same time before I used to wear a lot of Cool Winter colors and they looks very good on me but too bright. Warm colors make me look sick, very yellowish - cooler is better. But I can't wear clear colors also. May be True Summer is the answer 😄
Well, it doesn't matter now because when I shop I choose by coolness and softness, not too dark colors, and somehow I stay in the right palette for me. The main test remains freshness of the skin when I try the garment, so... But Interesting to know 🙂
It's hard to say without having analysed you myself. I've seen a lot of people incorrectly self analyse also :)
Hello from Canada. I enjoy your channel very much😊. This made so much sense to me! I had my colours analyzed in the eighties by a colour me beautiful consultant. The seasons weren’t divided into 3 groups then. After discovering your season, she rated 36 different colours from your season on a scale from 1 - 10. Ten being your best etc. Just thought you’d like a little history on my colour analysis experience 😊
Which were your best colors?
I had quite a few. Burgundy, rust, oyster white, chocolate, red purple, chartreuse. Just to name a few 😊
@@joanmercier8462 Very interesting.😊 I take it you're an autumn.
Thanks for sharing!! And thank you for being here ☺️
The confusion comes i think because some systems like Sci Art replace the warm/cool palettes for the seasons with the "true" seasons and most 16 palette systems have both and the true seasons are a "Goldilocks" palletes that they have all qualities of the season and none of the others. They aren't on any borders or have any flows or sister palettes.
There are many approaches, this one works the best I have found :)
@@sarahryanthestylecoach I agree. As one in a temperature dominant palette I am definitely warm dominant not balanced between warm, light, and bright. Warm definitely works better than "true". True only gets spring where warm is a border palette between spring and autumn. CMB and House of Colour teach this way as do you, Carol Brailey and a few others. It just makes more sense.
Super helpful and makes alot of sense (I'm a True Spring).
Thank you True Spring!
Thanks
So generous as always Maria. Thank you ☺️
Thank you, this is making me think! I am predominantly cool, the other categories are less important, but I'm closer to Summer than to Winter... So in your system I think that wouldn't count as True Summer because I borrow more easily from Winter than from Light Summer or Soft Summer? Or have I totally misunderstood?
Exactly, I wouldn’t say you are true Summer based on this ☺️
@@sarahryanthestylecoach thank you, that's really helpful.
Tack!
Thank you so much! ☺️
I'm still learning but I got typed as a warn autumn. In some systems, that actually means you are a true warm palette, which is actually a palette between spring and true autumn. I originally thought that warm autumn was the same as true autumn but in some systems that is not the case. The true autumn is actually slightly deeper that the warm autumn palette.
The true autumn colours are a touch too deep for me.
Yes, it depends on what system the consultant is using ☺️
Hey Sarah, a little bit off topic, but I loveeee your jewellery.. especially your rings and earrings in almost every video. Do you mind telling me where you get them from?
I'm from Germany, so any online sources (if there are any) would be appreciated:)
Also, loved the video!
Thank you very much :)
Thank you! My rings are from a designer at The Rocks market in Sydney. I’ve tried to find her name can’t! My necklace is from Betty and Biddy. My drop earrings are Chanel and the other ones are from One Dame Lane and Pierced ☺️
Cool summer may be my sub season. I’ve noticed that I really need some contrast and I can handle it well. More muted summer colors just don’t give me vibrancy. But then I have to be careful with winter colors, some of which I can borrow. Black may be too overpowering for me without makeup, but otherwise I can pull it off.
Nice analysis! :)
Thank you, I am true winter, summer and autumn colors look awful on me and spring not so much. Leaning bright.
Wonderful! Thanks for sharing! ☺️💕
Dear Sarah, I always enjoy your colour analysis video. I live in Switzerland, are there style coaches by these subseasons methode? Is this house of colours, Color Me Beautiful, how is it called for? Thank you very much for your help.
This makes so much sense ! Before I got my analysis I had already narrowed it down to Autumn but I couldn't figure out which sub season I was so I tried my potential sister seasons and they all looked awful ! Yes, I'm a true autumn !
Makes so much sense = true seasons =balance characteristics
Makes sense to me ☺️
it makes a lot of sense to me
Yay!
Hi Sarah, I am a recent subscriber. I am really enjoying your videos. This video on being a "true" version in a seasonal palette was a genius explanation. I had my color analysis done and I am a dark winter...which I believe is true- or I am on the border of True winter. .To your point..I can wear more colors from the other sub season winter palette than I can borrow from my "sister" season...dark autumn. I love being a winter... and I want to incorporate more color close to my face. thanks so much!
Nice, yes it sounds like you might be a true Winter!
I have to say that I am still struggling a bit with finding my changed colours with ageing! Would love a video on that subject; although suspect everyone is different? I was a happy deep autumn for several decades, until my hair started having some grey, I have coloured it slightly lighter and lighter until light, warm brown and my eyes have naturally gone from deep olive to mid green, a lot lighter and more greeen. The original consultant retired, so went to another and was told warm autumn now, but colours can be a bit too warm on me, the soft autumn is too faded looking. Another one draped me as bright spring and yet another as warm spring. I am just wondering if its possible to go from muted to bright with age, surely your colours soften a bit? I don't feel happy in very bright colours at all and some of the spring feels too light. Once I've had one of these "new" consultations, am happy for a few weeks and buy some new clothes, only to find they are not really working and am disappointed again. Any ideas about how we change with age? Some consultants say we don't change at all, but the deep autumn is definately too dark and dulled down now and makes me look slightly ill.
Yes everyone is different so if I do a video on the subject, it would be general information. An updated consultation may be needed.
Yes, you are right, of course, but I have paid out for three consultations since lockdown and getting very discouraged by it all, as you can imagine?!
@@sarahryanthestylecoach
I am very interested in the topics you have in your videos.
About colours; the names of the colours, are they always the same? Take for example lemon yellow. Is it always x% yellow and y% blue in it ?
Or do i take a chance every time i shop lemon yellow online? Or electic blue, fuchisa etc.
It is difficult to shop online when the colour just is namned yellow. If i order the same top two times, i can get two different colours. That has happend to me.
I would like you to make a video about that so i can learn the name on the specific colours i like so i can shop them.
Thank you.
Watch this space!
Can you do one on sub seasons? Like dark autumn. Would we do better in dark winter or true or light autumn? Sometimes I feel the true autumn is to saturated and the soft autumn is too light but wonder if the warmth is still more important over cool of dark winter?
It sounds like you might need a personal analysis. I am not sure you will get the answers you're looking for in a generic video!
I got one in the late 80’s and I was an autumn and another one 2 years ago and I am dark autumn. But I don’t look good in some of the true autumn colors. She thought I was true autumn at first but I went back because I told her I didn’t look good in some of the colors. Then she said I was dark. I can’t believe I’m anything else just from self diagnosing but maybe I’m dark autumn through and through and can pick and choose from other autumn sun seasons and dark winter but can only use some colors from each.
This video really made me think, Sarah, and I enjoyed that. So, if a true season has balanced characteristics, then the subseasons will have dominant and less dominant characteristics. For example, a Deep Autumn's dominant characteristic will be deep(ness), then muted and warm (in varying proportions for the latter 2)? A Soft Autumn's dominant characteristic will be soft(ness), then muted and warm (again in varying proportions for the latter 2)? It therefore makes sense that a Deep Autumn would be able to borrow from the other deep season and a soft season would be able to borrow from the other soft season. And because a True Autumn would not have brightness in her colour characteristics, she then would not be able to borrow from True Spring and find the colour suited her well. She would find colours from other autumn palettes would work better for her. Makes sense to me!
Yes it's not that the true seasons have less or more dominant characteristics but in fact the opposite, there is nothing dominant or 'weaker', just equal in its qualities.
Hello, Sarah. I love your channel. I was a BeautiControl consultant and did color analysis way back in the 90's and have always believed that we should ignore the trends and wear what looks best on us. So many of my summer friends were incorrectly analyzed as spring and I hope you will find a true spring model to show everyone the difference. I was always told that spring is the rarest season and hate seeing summers wearing the wrong season. Have a lovely day!
Hopefully I’ll get one soon! Wearing what makes you happy will always trump everything else!
As long as warm and cool are draped correctly (and colored hair is covered during the draping) it should take care of that problem. I actually had the reverse happen to me. I am a warm spring who was incorrectly analyzed as summer the first time my colors were done. The two seasons do have cross over with the light value which often confuses new analysts testing their wings. Springs not only are warmer but they are also brighter with clear chroma and high intensity for their light value and warm undertones. Summers are soft and muted for their light value and cool undertones. This makes them look rosy and dusty vs the spring who looks tropical like a bird of paradise. People often confuse light value for coolness, ability to tan vs burn and other value issues for undertone issues. I think this may cause the reason why some summers and springs get confused for the other. Value= light, medium, and deep and anything to do with fair, light, tan, burn, etc have to do with surface coloring changes or straight up value of our coloring. They are value words. Undertones are warm, neutral, cool. Only thing associated with that is that. Intensity, chroma etc is brightness, saturation, etc. so words like softness, blended, muted go with this one.
Spring: warm undertone, light to medium value, clear or bright in chroma or intensity
Summer: cool undertone, light to medium value, soft or muted intensity or chroma. Hope that helps anyone confused between the two seasons.
Thanks so much for your video. I was analyzed a month ago as a True Autumn. 90% of my wardrobe is cool (mostly Winter) so I’m having to adjust my thinking and buying a totally different set of clothing colours. Your clarification has helped and makes sense because I don’t feel that warmth is my primary characteristic, although important, and most Spring colours are too bright for me. Thanks!
Yes, that makes so much sense. Otherwise as cool winter/summer or warm spring/autumn you are wondering why you can borrow colours from your sister season way better than from the other subseasons. And it broadens the posibilities to really know if you should stay completely in your season or if colours from your sister season look great on you as well.
Exactly, it doesn't make sense at all ! These 16 subcategories or i've heard even more 20,22 make space for individualising a person appearance in conjunction with a larger range of colours and some people are rarity among colour analysts because nobody can actually "fit" them in just 12 sub categories season!
It makes a lot of sense. As a winter (never got a sub season typing) I puzzled as I knew I couldn’t wear the brighter pinks and reds. The seasons set out your new way makes a lot more sense and I think I’m a cool winter because of that. With self-draping I realised the really bright pinks make me look over heated, and a bright pink that’s ever so slightly warm makes me look weirdly blotchy and shadowed. I never get tired of seeing what colours do to people!
Glad it was helpful! I never get tired of it either! I'm utterly fascinated by colours! :)
What color pallet are you using on your eyes? I just found out I’m a true winter and need to rethink my makeup
Oh I’m not sure! I usually use MAC shadows, not in a palette ☺️ I can’t really remember what I was wearing here!
Captive definitely suits you 😊
I so agree with this. I’m a cool winter and I cannot for the life of me wear true summer colors especially the gray pastels. I can borrow some colors from dark and bright winter with no issue.
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Great explanation! I do think that even within the 'true' categorie people can differ. And that each individual is somewhere on the scale of warm/cool - bright/soft - light/dark. I am a true summer but I am on the softest side, and can't handle too light colours very well. So I avoid the brightest from cool summer, and the lightest from light summer ;) I think that could help too. To define how cool, light and soft you are and stay within that range.
Meaning you're a soft summer that can borrow from true summer and soft autumn,or you're typed a true summer that can't borrow soft autumn very well, but can look good in soft summer colors/shades as well as your true summer palette and better then other summer sub seasons?
@@ingridpear1882 I mean that even if you are in a certain categorie, you are still on a scale. Not every soft summer or cool winter is exactly the same. Yes in general they all have the same in common, the softness or coolness. But some people are for example more towards neutral in warmth/coolness, and can wear for example both soft summer and soft autumn very well, even if they are soft summer. Others are more cool and can wear some soft autumn but not all. That depends on the person. I am a true summer, and although I can wear cool summer, light summer and soft summer, not all the colours are equally great. Which is logical because otherwise I would be that subcategory right? Sorry long answer. I think Carol Brailey shows that well if you want to explore that more.
@tessaspanjersberg8057 yes, you understand it well. In the 16 seasons system, true seasons have their own dedicated and formulated palette. And
@tessaspanjersberg8057 yes, you understand it well. In the 16 seasons system, true seasons have their own dedicated and formulated palette. And
@tessaspanjersberg8057 yes, you understand it well. In the 16 seasons system, true seasons have their own dedicated and formulated palette. And
I've had my analysis as a Cool Summer able to borrow colors from Cool Winter plus Summer pallets. But now it seems like I'm a true Summer? I'm getting a bit confused
I would suggest asking the person who did your analysis ☺️
I thought a true season meant u have no sister season and u stay within your own season , able to wear most of colors from that season.
Hi Darla.. yep, that’s what I said in the video ☺️💕
Hi Sarah ,
I first discovered your channel in lockdown and am delighted to see how it's deservedly growing. Thank you for all your hard work xxx🥰
Thank you so much! Your support means a lot! 🥹
That's all very interesting but if you were doing an online consultation would it be trickier or more complicated to get an accurate reading ?...Really enjoy your videos Sarah.
Depends on the training of the consultant not whether or not you are online or in-person
Sarah, im a man, and i find this color analysis fascinating. Love your approach. I wouldn't mind having you do my analysis. Thank you!
System is for all. Men and women and people of all origins.
Happy to work with you!
How much did you pay for your analysis? 😆 Was it surprising or had you guessed your season before hand?
I loved your explanation! I knew this already but when you look online the answer you get is what you explained first. it can be confusing when trying to look for your colours, true summer here, and you are just given cool summer instead which some of them would be too intense for me.
Glad it was helpful! ☺️
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Welcome! Happy to have you here!
Great color analysis explanation. I WANT your outfit because I am a very true winter. What I did not hear you discuss is contrast. I am not only a true winter, but find I need contrast in my fabrics. Beyond that, I have soft features and need softer lines in my garments style and fabric prints. I have silver white hair and I usually dress to compliment that feature. I enjoy your video immensely. Keep up the great work because you are so informative and fun to watch.
Thank you so much!
Great explanation! Your logic makes a lot of sense; however, I think that the main contributor to the confusion around colour anaylsis as a whole (by not just you but also the multitude of other analysts past and present) is the reuse and recycling of established terminology for newer, more avant garde, definitions.
Under your original system, I think that original coined terms like "Balanced Summer" or "Balanced Autumn" would be much more intutitve (and, dare I say, less misleading) compared to the reuse of established terms like "True Summer" or "True Autumn."
Fair point. The terminology is just a way of naming something. It is far less important that actually understanding colour theory.
Is a true summer treating the two seasons beside it really equal to it's own central slot on the color wheel,or as sub seasons/sister seasons? Are some "trues" really not able to borrow little bits from all the "sisters" to what it equally shares? vs,some true summers only being able to treat the other sub seasons as sister,and maybe borrow a touch from cool summer?
If someone was a cool summer for example,can they really mostly just borrow from cool winter,but not true summer? Or would they follow that with borrowing true summer,then all the other summers before borrowing from other winter sub seasons? Or is it better for them to borrow the cool season first,then both true summer (the one in-between soft and light without sharing equally assuming your system might have an individual color fan/gradient that isn't just a combination of the three subseasons) and true winter?
What's next for a cool/temp dominant season to borrow after it's main sister season? vs what direction a true should go after it's season?
They are equal in qualities without going to the extremes.
I feel like spring always gets the least discussion time.
What would you like to be discussed?
This is why I like the 16 season model. A Deep/Dark/Cool Summer is closer to Winter, but a True Summer should stick to their season. 12 seasons just doesn't seem like enough choices to me - most people won't fit neatly into even 16!
Fair point :)
@@sarahryanthestylecoach Love your videos though and love this look today. Where did you train? I'd love to become a colour analyst but I'm not sure where to start!
So I believe, I am a true summer.
Nice!
Yesss, I couldn't agree more. 🙂
Glad you think so!
This is an awesome way to look at it as I am typed a cool winter and I think you’re right. The muted colors of true summer don’t look as good as when I borrow from the other winters, although they don’t look bad, I am not muted. Well done!
Thank you!! This finally answers the question for me. I was draped as a winter 30ish years ago before sub seasons existed. I’ve always known I’m cool, bright & deep. Choosing between them has never made sense to me.
I also have medium to light olive overtone, which eliminates any possibility of crossing over.
Great video!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for explaining your approach! :)
My pleasure!
the difference that i noted between 12 season and 16 season system is that cool winter from 16 is not exactly as the same as true winter from 12 seasons (i will talk about winters cause im a winter). in 12 seasons dark winter is the LEAST intense subseason out of winters (since its the only season that borders with soft season), true winter being in the middle (because it doesnt border with summer in that system, so nothing bleeds softness to it), while in 16 seasons dark winter is the second one after bright winter, when it comes to intensity. i never understood why the creator of the 16 season system, whoever that was, would randomly flip softness of dark winter with cool winter and decide that cool winter would be less intense than dark winter, when they both border with soft season now. my thought is - they should at least be equal in intensity. you can have supercool undertone, but that shouldnt automatically mean you're less bright than if you were mostly dark. these are 2 different features.
so true winter 12 is a bit different palette than cool winter 16. its also different from true winter 16, since in your system u have to wear all subseasons at the same level, while true winter from 12 differs from bright winter and dark winter, which have some warmth to them from sister seasons. its also not as bright as bright winter and not as soft as dark winter. so its like true winter is some entirely different palette.
that's why i prefer to call myself true winter from 12 seasons. that palette is my favourite.