@@Avant402same thing happened to me . I said the same thing. It’s disturbing to think that just because I’m single and don’t have kids as well ,they think I can stay late or ask for my days to switch if I took them off. I have a family too made up of parents , and siblings and I’d like to spend time with them too ? :(
It's literally in corporate training videos these days that it's harassment to tell someone their free time is worth less than yours because they have no kids
My faith in humanity restored a little; I was told years ago by one employee that since I have no kids, why I am willing to go home and not work more? I was told I am stupid. ....and so I ended up at hospital because depression and bad reaction to meds+overwork. Never again will I listen to such sociatal pressure.
@@martakeczek6476 wow I’m sorry for that . I hope you are doing better take one day at a time. Don’t let anyone ever tell you are not worthy. That your family isn’t a family just because you don’t have one of your own . I never undertook why people at the workplace did this . I got shamed once too I once worked in Vegas and a manger said “are you single or married?” And I said you cannot ask me that that’s none of your business I turned around and went back to work . I’m very personal at work . I go to work and I go home . I don’t talk about anything personal.
When she said what are we gonna do I thought “Did she really just say that and expects something from her? What are we going to do?? Get out her face first and foremost is what we’re gonna do.
OOOO I HATE THAT SOOOOO MUCH AHHHHH Similarly when a customer asks for a specific thing and I tell them we don’t have it and they say “What are we going to do about that?” … Uh, I’m going to repeat that we don’t have it and walk away…? But the example in this video is even worse LOL like what in the fuck, the example in this video couldn’t even happen at my work place though - thankfully.
@@truechaosmulala3831 The societal problem is capitalism. People will have kids when it is safe and prosperous to do so. And I said it was your problem you chose to have kids. Not the person's fault they choose to have a life.
Used to get abused this way at my last place of work, especially when Christmas came around. "Oh, you aren't married and don't have kids", therefore you will be the one person that will be in the office by yourself from Christmas to New Year's because everyone else has a family and is traveling for the holidays. That's right, I don't have any family, except for my parents and my brothers and sister, nieces and nephews and my grandma. But they weren't "real" family, and got really pissed when I explained it to them as the reason I could not attend Christmas. I finally booked off Christmas the one year, and holy f#ck, all the b!tching and complaining from all my co-workers who tried to pressure me to drop my request and come in and work, because it's not like I have any family like they do. I told them all to f#ck off and deal with it, I quit right after New Year's and never gave this business a second thought through the years
Good for you. As a mother of two, I can say your coworkers were assholes. Their kids are not a priority in your life because they aren’t your children. The mother had notice. Her piss poor planning does not constitute an emergency on your part! Sorry it just doesn’t!
I haven't missed a single Christmas ever, and I don't intend to start. Some things are non-negotiable. The only thing that work would get from me would be -1 employee.
Dad of 4 here. I'm 1,000% on Veronica's side here. My wife and I chose to have kids; our decision, our cross to bear. There have been rare occasions where I've had to take off last minute, but that was between me and my manager to work out. I sure as hell wouldn't try to guilt someone else, childless or not. While I love having children and do NOT regret it in the least, I WHOLLY support those that don't have them, REGARDLESS of their reasons why. I hate the societal pressure to get married, have kids, yadda yadda. You gotta do what works for YOU! I've told my kids the same thing: as much as I would love to eventually have grandkids, have kids ONLY if YOU want them. Same with getting married; do it ONLY if that works for you. The only person that you MUST live with for the rest of your life is YOU, so do what makes YOU happy (as long as it doesn't harm anyone else).
Also, ONLY with a real, GOOD, individual. So many folks my gen, those before, those after get torn up, used, abused, and naturalized in a violent, perverse, and u loving "dating market," that they accept they are meat doomed to land on the expiration shelf and that they have to go with whomever instead of choosing wisely and cautiously. Let Jesus guide you, not sweet talk.
I hope you are also in support of getting rid of the Child Tax Credit. Why the hell are we given tax breaks to families when it is their children that are using public resources, like schools, parks, busses, etc.
I love how she kept her calm tone of voice the whole time. Her never losing her composure made it so much funnier. And the other chick’s accent was hilarious.
I had a coworker try to pull this crap on me once. She was complaining that I had Christmas Day off and she didn't but she she had kids so I should be the one working. I said that I had more seniority, so I earned it, and just because I didn't have kids didn't mean I didn't have family (including nephews) that I was spending the holiday with. I then walked away.
@@nutmeg9593 YES! They think that's the exact same thing! One woman sounded so sad when I said I was an introvert. She was all: No, you're not! Don't say that. 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
Having children doesn't make your off time more important than mine if I requested off months before you did. You decided to have children, so you handle all the responsibility that comes with it.
I don't have children, however, I think it's easy to talk like this when schools don't comunicate things as much in advance as you decided to take time off. It's OK to ask around to see if someone doesn't mind swapping the day off. We don't need to be dickheads on purpose.
@@someone3187the schools not communicating timely is not the problem of child-free coworkers. It’s part of the complexity of parenthood - what people signed up for when they chose to have kids.
It has always bugged me that some of my coworkers have always acted like they should be exempted from certain work duties because they have kids, and that only the childless employees should have to do them. I'm thinking "don't take a job if you're not prepared to do the work!"
We do make some adjustments for our people with children (we work from home and if one of us has to step out to pick up a child, that's never a problem; somebody else can cover anything that comes up). Major holidays and vacations are first-come, first-served, with a dose of seniority. I have seniority, but I'm also usually kind enough to shift things around a bit to accommodate others. Christmas week is a wasteland of nothing anyway, so most of us take off.
When emergencies with kids happen, I'm always willing to step in and help a coworker out. Your kid just threw up at school and you have to go pick them up? Sure, I'll cover for you, as long as I don't have important plans. If it's NOT an emergency, like a holiday or a trip, I'm a lot LESS willing to help out. Basically, I treat any family excuse the same way. If it's an emergency, I'll do my best (to a point) to help. If it's not, I'll only cover if I feel like it. The only difference is that I accept that kids have "emergencies" much more often than other family members.
@@ytadventurer9170 Definitely, just as I'd help ANY coworker in an emergency. I'm talking about those who don't think they should be given those duties AT ALL, because they have kids. Or those who make it a habit of bailing because of their kids, and just expecting that everyone else will pick up their slack, not even leaving anything prepared for us to help with.
it's quite common here to have childless people work on christmas or new year's eve, because ThEy DoN't HaVe KiDs. apparently childless people don't have a personal life or so.
@@Rapscallion2009 Usually I start off with something like "I'm sorry, but I have plans." "No" is what eventually comes out after I start getting pestered by the clueless/entitled, and there will most certainly be a level of anger/irritation in my voice. After that it quickly becomes "Fuck no, and get the hell out of my face, asshole." Amazingly, I was a frequent flier at "HR Airlines," even though I never got any perks other than people stopped bugging me about stupid shit.
Bosses and coworkers love to load work onto married people without children, and they especially love to do this to single people without children. And you know what Veronica would get out of cancelling her plans to accommodate this idiot? NOTHING, except a reputation for being a doormat, which is an invitation to do it again...and again. She handled it exactly right. "Lack of planning on your part does not necessarily constitute an emergency on my part."
As a woman let me just say that women who choose to have kids and still work have made that choice. If you want to be at your kids' events or even spend time with them be a stay at home mom. There I fixed it for yoy working moms that don't give a 100% to the job anyway.
A Poster said he or she was passed over for a Promotion for someone who had less Seniority over them because that person had kids and needed the money. Poster was livid. 😡🤬 (I am livid too and it didn't even happen to me! 😡🤬 The Audacity to pass over someone who has Seniority just because the other Person has kids! 😡🤬
@@karicewillis i empathize with this individual 100%! I went through that exact thing 3 times in my life. That’s when I made a choice to “act my wage”.
I don't have kids and I've cut off a good portion of my family, but I have MEEEEEEEEE!!! I deserve my time away when I need it also, whether it's a vacation, staycation, mental health day, whatever.
I’d be like, “sure I’ll gladly move it for you, but it would cost approximately $1,750 because I’d have to rebook everything. How does that sound? Hello? Why you walking away?” 😂😂
THIS! I've had employers literally tell me that there was no reason for me not to work overtime and double shifts, because i don't have a wife and kids. Apparently not having kids means i have no life either. People without kids are seen as second class citizens that should be working 24/7 to prove our worth to this crumbling society.
I once worked somewhere where whether you had kids or not was a determining factor of whether they were going to keep you when lay-offs came around. They were also more lenient to people with kids coming in to work late and those of us without kids were held to stricter standards. I don’t think that that’s fair.
@@AdianAdi-oz1qkit’s a joke… But pregnancy is the inherent risk of having sex, whether birth control is used or not. People who can’t handle the responsibility should consider that before fucking someone.
I'm trying to understand what this "emergency" event is. Don't schools events and activities outside of school also plan months in advance, and give parents the schedule?
I remember getting a syllabus at the beginning of each school year that laid out trips excursions and events for the whole year….im sorry but poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine Stevie Griffin said it best.
Exactly and you get a calendar at the beginning of the school year so you know what days trips, etc are if you want to volunteer to help out. The only surprising things that happen are weather related but you should always have a back up friend or sitter for your kids. And I always remind parents who complain that they chose to have their children and that school employees are not babysitters no matter what the parent believes.
@@Evogurl-gf4ne True, but when I went back to watch the video again, she specified that it was a field trip, and I think she would have used the fact that it was rescheduled for sympathy, if that were the case. My guess is that she signed up, or her kid signed her up, for this and she forgot about it until the week before. Now she expects others to accommodate her.
"You don't have kids mannn..." "Your right and the moment we hit an Iceberg on the Titanic, you and your offspring get to survive. Until then...my PTO is scheduled before yours."
Ugh...I had this conversation with a delusional parent at a previous job. Heaven forbid I take time off to go on the honeymoon that my husband and I waited five years for.
As a parent, being a parent is not an excuse for poor planning. And if it's the school's fault you're only just hearing about this, you gotta take it up with said school, not your coworkers.
I don't have kids and always take my birthday off. New employee started and stated they wanted that date off as sons birthday. Even though I take the same leave every year. I was guilt tripped by everyone over this. Let them have it but never let it happen again. My husband also used to work on.xmas day, so his colleagues with young children could have it off. A lot of his colleagues appreciated it and some just thought it was there god given right to have it off. Don't get me wrong if we can help someone, we will. However don't play the child card with people. You don't know what heartache they might be hiding.
Honestly it seems like the wrong kinds of people have kids. I cannot stand when people use kids as leverage against others. If you're that kind of person, then you are not fit to be a parent. This is a sign of immaturity, and makes for a bad example to children.
@@lelandgaunt9985Apparently it's okay to use kids as leverage when so-called wives leave their husbands. There's 💰 MONEY 💰 to be made by robbing him!!!
I’ve got kids and would never do that! You simply ask if they can change and if they say no you accept it and move on. I HAVE missed out on stuff with my kids, but they understand I have obligations as well and I do my best to manage all of that while still spending time with them and going to events. Besides, people are way more likely to trade days off like that when you are respectful and not demanding.
Most people would rather manipulate than ask. Why? Because they want you to give them something at your expense while giving you a middle finger in return.
As a mom, I understand that field trips come up only a week or two before the event sometimes. However, don’t get mad at your coworkers for also needing time off. Get mad at management/HR for not finding a way for letting you both off. Get mad that there’s not enough staff. I’ve planned a vacation with my husband (then boyfriend), and then one coworker got fired, and then the other coworkers tried to make me feel guilty and give up my leave because they had to pick up after the fired coworker. That was before kids. I went on my vacation.
@@alexandraphelps4020 WRONG! Nice try, but it’s a cop out. All field trips are planned within the first month or so of school even if the field trip isn’t until Spring. Buses need to be booked well in advance and most venues require a reservation and deposit. Reservations to venues and reservations to buses go fast which is why each grade level will know where they’re going well in advance. All events are on the school calendar for the year. So, “as a mom” you can easily find out where your child’s class is going weeks, months before the event instead of “acting” like this just came up. And besides, normally, one MAYBE two parents are needed to chaperone. Sounds like you’re volunteering and framing it like you NEED to go.
@jeffmejia3556 It's wonderful that's the way it works at the school you went to, or the school your kids go to, but that absolutely is not the case for all parents and all schools. Plenty of school events are planned only a few weeks in advance at the school where I work and parents are sometimes notified only a week or two in advance. This ABSOLUTELY does happen.
Finally someone has realized that it's a corporate environment issue which tends to fail both parents and childfree people instead of constantly moping about how awful the other party is.
I have 2 weeks off booked at the end of July/beginning of August. With the way my shift pattern works it means I'm off for 26 days. I've had it booked off for three months and I have zero plans for those days. I might sit in the garden, I might pay video games, I might go away on a short break to Paris. Who knows? What I do know is I'm off those days and I don't care if your kids have stuff you need the time off for, they aren't my kids. The only time I've reorganised my holiday time was when my co-worker's wife was pregnant and had a really difficult birth and he needed time off to help her. That was important enough for me to reschedule. The woman nearly died, I'm not a monster. I'll help out in a situation like that, but anything less serious get's a no from me. (Mom and baby recovered fine and everything worked out for the best, so it was all good in the end).
I used to work with a woman who was ALWAYS on the phone with her teenagers during the summer when school was closed. It was very disruptive and she definitely wasn't a team player because she was too busy talking on the damn phone.
The woman with kids doesn't actually think having kids makes her more important than Veronica or less flexible than Veronica or any of that. She's just a manipulator, and that's the manipulation she thought was most likely to convince Veronica to give her what she wanted. Basically a workplace version of "do it for the children."
Me…. The major perk of being single, no wife/girlfriend/kids/baggage, is I’m free to book my holidays well in advance because there’s no other people involved or compromises or waiting for others to get their situations cleared, so within days of the new holiday year I’m already booked my main days off, first in with the booking gets priority, the flip side is I’m usually expected to fill in for when people are off unexpectedly, but then again, any overtime I do I can convert into holiday time
Ma’am, ain’t nobody told you to have them kids and be late with your time off request!🤦🏻♀️🤣 But, what I will tell you is that I’m on vacation next week!👏👏👏🤣
Veronica also said she had tickets. Plane tickets may not be refundable. I’m taking a trip next month and booked non-refundable tickets. I fly out Friday afternoon which I always have off. If someone dares ask me to stay late, I’ll be saying no
I am always ready to help out when an emergency comes up with the colleagues' kids. What I can't bear is the fact that I plan my important days off nearly a year in advance and other ones come up with a request just a few days ahead although they knew it for months. And when not getting what they want pulling the kids card and saying I can take another day off because I have no kids and no responsibilities as I am a citizien second class for not having kids.
I had a job do this to me one time on Christmas and i quit that day. I told them if they need someone so badly they are going to have to being in one of the parents because i quit effective immediately. I had literally asked for the day off the year in advance and got it approved and they tried to change it 2 weeks before
It’s definitely not all or even most of them, but there’s this small subset of parents that seem to think reproducing has entitled them to special benefits at the expense of others. Ironically, these are the same parents that treat their children like extensions of themselves and not separate human beings and try to shove them down a certain path in life with zero consideration for the child’s interests.
i'm so glad this attitude is sooo slowly changing in the military as well. i've been active duty for 18 years and this has been a relative constant that people with a family are prioritized over people with no family when it comes to leaving work for appointments and things.
At a previous job where I was office manager it was understood by my boss and my co-worker with children (small office) that I took the Olympic fortnight off. I love the Olympics and that fortnight has always been sacrosanct to me, so my leave for the next one is always booked the day I return to work from the current one (doesn't matter now, I work from home so the tv is on constantly). All the rest of the time I took my annual leave around my boss and co-worker's school holiday needs. Then we got a new full time worker in, she had children. The first year she booked and paid for a two week holiday during the school summer holidays without checking first to see if anyone else was off (my other colleague and my boss both had children). The two weeks she'd booked was Olympic fortnight. Suddenly it was everyone else's problem that her husband's employers closed for two weeks during the school holidays and that was the only time the whole family could take holiday together. She tried to bully me into giving up my two weeks so she didn't have to cancel her holiday. I refused. My boss backed me she was livid but, strangely, she somehow found a way round the problem.
Employer's inability to adequately accommodate 2 people being off at once is a benefit to them, because it means employees will blame and fight with each other instead of the employer.
Working in the plumbing and heating industry, I dealt with this during our after-hours on-call rotation. Some guys would say that they couldn't be on the schedule because they had kids and all the activities that go with that, such as sports. One company I worked for, my call partner, was one of those guys who would constantly forward everything to me. He was also best buddies with the boss's kid, so nothing was done about it. I left when I started to get really pissed about every fourth week turning into a 90-hour week. The checks were okay, but it was mentally draining.
Had a coworker try to get me involved in a conversation with some residents. (I work in a nursing home.) Asked me if I had kids. No. Am I planning? I'm single, so....no...I'm not about to open that can of worms. Do I want any? Absolutely not. "Oh but you'll come to love them when you do have them!" "......I already can't stand adult humans...why would I want mini humans? I have no desire for any romantic relationships and I'm not gonna be a single mother while working for a laughable wage. I can hardly keep myself alive right now. Let me be responsible for my own demise, not for the demise of others please." What's funny is that the old folks who overheard this were supportive and praised me for being a responsible person. That coworker doesn't like me XD
Her: "So what are we gonna do?" Me: "Well I'm gonna take next week off because I have plans and scheduled time off three months in advance. I'm not really sure what you're gonna do nor am I really worried about it cause it's not really my problem
When someone says, “ . . . but the school didn’t give us notice until just recently,” or some crap like that I just remind the parent that that’s the choice they made when they decided to have kids. I remind them of how they criticize me and my husband even “pity” us sometimes for choosing such an “empty” life (seriously 🤣). Vacation versus obligation. We’re not that selfless. We like vacations, free time, me time, us time, romantic evenings, romantic mornings, socializing, our savings bank accounts, a neat house, hobbies, nice everything, so we chose not to have children. They chose to have the “greatest joy and reward” in life. They chose what “really defines a person” 🤦🏻♀️ So, go be a parent and tell your kid that grandma, aunt, uncle, or the neighbor is going to their event, but they’re going to film it so mommy can see it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yep. My best buddies have kids, and school fees, and after school classes, and clothes to buy, and school uniforms, and trips costing $$$$$, and have to attend recitals/games/concerts etc whether they like it or not. They drive soccer mom SUVs, are only available for a beer if we book it weeks in advance, and when we DO catch up, all they do is piss and moan about their lives. Meanwhile, I just traded my ageing Boxster for a new MX5 RF. Which is parked outside my paid-for condo. I literally do what I want, when I want, where I want, with whom I want. It makes me wonder how many parents, if they were given the chance to go back in time and NOT have kids, would go through with it and stay child-free. I suspect the actual number would be very significant.
People with kids want, and work for those things too. It's not just single, or childless people who want, and have, everything you listed. Just a thought.
i HATE it when they tell me " you dont have kids nor are married, ergo, you dont have a family" Apparently i materialized out of thin air and puff here i am! I guess my parents, sister, brother and my niece and nephew dont count and i cant go see them because other people's kids have priority over them! HHHHHHHAAAAAAAHAHAHA GTFO with that!!!
In my call centre days, the entitlement was real... I was told that I shouldn't get prime shifts because I didn't have kids... My response was that if they got their metrics up they could get prime shifts too... :D No sympathy from me if you're gonna be a bitch and say I don't deserve what I earned...
As a person with kids, I fully support Veronica. If you have kids, you have to be organised. If you’re not, that’s no one else’s problem but your own. Hope you enjoyed that week off, girl!
I also understand that "parents sometimes need to show up for their kids" yes, they absolutely should, and sometimes that requires sacrifice. Sometimes they have to decide what worths more and call in sick, leave early, or flat out tell the boss the kids come first, sorry.
Literal facts. I have coworkers tell me this all the time and I’m straight with them. However, if I have nothing going on or need the extra money, it’s no biggie. That’s pretty rare though.
Ive had conversations so many times about stuff like this even with schedules or shifts people always say they have kids and get treated like the ceo when I dont have kids so I get whatever crap schedule is left so infuriating
Ugh... Those mandatory FRG meetings, which always had that one wife (never saw this with the rare husband dependant) , who seems to think the single soldiers were some kind of free labor. It's your damn meeting; you and the rest of the wives can move the f'ing tables and chairs.
I was in the reserves and other coworkers would try to guilt trip me into taking overtime that they signed up for. "Well you were gone Thursday and Friday last week, so you should take my Saturday and Sunday so I could go to my sister's babyshower." Mind you, she did not put in a formal request through her supervisor and wants to take time off at the last second. These folks act like I was on vacation for the whole 4 days that I was out of state.
My time off is more important than your time off because I have kids and you wouldn't understand. Sigh. I have heard that argument before and it's a no-go.
I purposely CHOSE not to have kids, just like people chose to have kids, and that's wonderful. The rest of the world doesn't have to be conditional on either of our choices. Life is life and we are all in it together.
When I heard Veronica say "What I'm gonna do now is get back to work while you walk away," I LMFAO! I'm childless and I felt that. I would hate for a parent to try me like that.
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“You having children was your decision. My vacations are my decisions.”
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Spot on!
I go through the same thing with my work colleagues. Just because I don’t have any kids, doesn’t mean that I don’t have a life outside of the office.
@@blu3j00LsI’m going to use that saying .
@@Avant402same thing happened to me . I said the same thing. It’s disturbing to think that just because I’m single and don’t have kids as well ,they think I can stay late or ask for my days to switch if I took them off. I have a family too made up of parents , and siblings and I’d like to spend time with them too ? :(
It's literally in corporate training videos these days that it's harassment to tell someone their free time is worth less than yours because they have no kids
Companies should put this message on their employees screensavers so they never forget
My faith in humanity restored a little; I was told years ago by one employee that since I have no kids, why I am willing to go home and not work more? I was told I am stupid.
....and so I ended up at hospital because depression and bad reaction to meds+overwork.
Never again will I listen to such sociatal pressure.
Oh trust me, I found out soon enough that corporate America gives 2 sh-ts about my kids.
@@martakeczek6476 wow I’m sorry for that . I hope you are doing better take one day at a time. Don’t let anyone ever tell you are not worthy. That your family isn’t a family just because you don’t have one of your own . I never undertook why people at the workplace did this . I got shamed once too I once worked in Vegas and a manger said “are you single or married?” And I said you cannot ask me that that’s none of your business I turned around and went back to work . I’m very personal at work . I go to work and I go home . I don’t talk about anything personal.
It's discrinination based on familial status. My time off is just as important as the people with kid's time off.
I always LOVE the "what are we gonna do" when it was never my problem or issue to begin with. WE will do nothing.
"Who is "We"?? Are you speaking french?"
-Heavenly
lmao it's a real feel.
But these people are the first one's to say "what are YOU gonna do" when it's YOUR ass.
When she said what are we gonna do I thought “Did she really just say that and expects something from her? What are we going to do?? Get out her face first and foremost is what we’re gonna do.
OOOO I HATE THAT SOOOOO MUCH AHHHHH
Similarly when a customer asks for a specific thing and I tell them we don’t have it and they say “What are we going to do about that?” … Uh, I’m going to repeat that we don’t have it and walk away…? But the example in this video is even worse LOL like what in the fuck, the example in this video couldn’t even happen at my work place though - thankfully.
When did it become a “we” issue…that sounds like a personal problem 😂😂😂
"So, I mean, what are we gonna do?"
"Put your kids up for adoption."
😂😂😂
Ahahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Looove this! Would use it with entitled breeders.
YES LOL
“And that’s my problem because….?”
Sometimes people with kids are crazy entitled.
Rinse and repeat, yeah.
I’ve started to ask that when this comes up. The amazing answers I receive that it IS in fact OUR problem. Unbelievable.
@@jeffmejia3556
- And that's my problem because?
- Well, it's our problem.
- Exactly. It's your problem.
=)
Ma'am, your poor planning constitutes no emergency on my part. Push off
Sometimes schools don’t give a long notice before field trips
@@truechaosmulala3831 Sorry you chose to have kids? That's not anyone else's problem but yours.
@@Venjamin actually if no one has kids that is a societal problem one that a lot of places are starting to suffer from
@@Venjamin and I’m just stating planning isn’t always the reason that in this example it can happen
@@truechaosmulala3831 The societal problem is capitalism. People will have kids when it is safe and prosperous to do so.
And I said it was your problem you chose to have kids. Not the person's fault they choose to have a life.
Used to get abused this way at my last place of work, especially when Christmas came around. "Oh, you aren't married and don't have kids", therefore you will be the one person that will be in the office by yourself from Christmas to New Year's because everyone else has a family and is traveling for the holidays. That's right, I don't have any family, except for my parents and my brothers and sister, nieces and nephews and my grandma. But they weren't "real" family, and got really pissed when I explained it to them as the reason I could not attend Christmas. I finally booked off Christmas the one year, and holy f#ck, all the b!tching and complaining from all my co-workers who tried to pressure me to drop my request and come in and work, because it's not like I have any family like they do. I told them all to f#ck off and deal with it, I quit right after New Year's and never gave this business a second thought through the years
That’s awesome
Good for you. As a mother of two, I can say your coworkers were assholes. Their kids are not a priority in your life because they aren’t your children. The mother had notice. Her piss poor planning does not constitute an emergency on your part! Sorry it just doesn’t!
I haven't missed a single Christmas ever, and I don't intend to start. Some things are non-negotiable. The only thing that work would get from me would be -1 employee.
Except 2 weeks ago😂😂😂😂
@@froggybug😂
Dad of 4 here. I'm 1,000% on Veronica's side here. My wife and I chose to have kids; our decision, our cross to bear. There have been rare occasions where I've had to take off last minute, but that was between me and my manager to work out. I sure as hell wouldn't try to guilt someone else, childless or not.
While I love having children and do NOT regret it in the least, I WHOLLY support those that don't have them, REGARDLESS of their reasons why. I hate the societal pressure to get married, have kids, yadda yadda. You gotta do what works for YOU!
I've told my kids the same thing: as much as I would love to eventually have grandkids, have kids ONLY if YOU want them. Same with getting married; do it ONLY if that works for you. The only person that you MUST live with for the rest of your life is YOU, so do what makes YOU happy (as long as it doesn't harm anyone else).
Perfectly said, top to bottom!
WHY cant everyone be like you🤩
Also, ONLY with a real, GOOD, individual. So many folks my gen, those before, those after get torn up, used, abused, and naturalized in a violent, perverse, and u loving "dating market," that they accept they are meat doomed to land on the expiration shelf and that they have to go with whomever instead of choosing wisely and cautiously.
Let Jesus guide you, not sweet talk.
I hope you are also in support of getting rid of the Child Tax Credit. Why the hell are we given tax breaks to families when it is their children that are using public resources, like schools, parks, busses, etc.
@@jnwestray78idk, because they're raising the next generation that will take care of you in your senior years?
"I'll get back to work while you walk away" - that's how "we" shall get round this!
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I love how she kept her calm tone of voice the whole time. Her never losing her composure made it so much funnier. And the other chick’s accent was hilarious.
Hold on a second... YOU chose to have kids, but I have to deal with the consequences? Try again...
I had a coworker try to pull this crap on me once. She was complaining that I had Christmas Day off and she didn't but she she had kids so I should be the one working. I said that I had more seniority, so I earned it, and just because I didn't have kids didn't mean I didn't have family (including nephews) that I was spending the holiday with. I then walked away.
I spent some holidays alone, by choice, and I'll be danged if someone tried to take that away from me bc I don't have children.
@@younglasterSame! Do you also have to explain to people that being alone doesn’t mean you’re lonely?
@@nutmeg9593 YES! They think that's the exact same thing! One woman sounded so sad when I said I was an introvert. She was all: No, you're not! Don't say that. 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
@@younglaster This. They say it like it’s such a bad thing. We like our independence thank you very much.
This. I have a family. It’s me and my husband. We want to spend Xmas day together. End of
Having children doesn't make your off time more important than mine if I requested off months before you did. You decided to have children, so you handle all the responsibility that comes with it.
I don't have children, however, I think it's easy to talk like this when schools don't comunicate things as much in advance as you decided to take time off. It's OK to ask around to see if someone doesn't mind swapping the day off. We don't need to be dickheads on purpose.
@@someone3187the schools not communicating timely is not the problem of child-free coworkers. It’s part of the complexity of parenthood - what people signed up for when they chose to have kids.
It has always bugged me that some of my coworkers have always acted like they should be exempted from certain work duties because they have kids, and that only the childless employees should have to do them. I'm thinking "don't take a job if you're not prepared to do the work!"
We do make some adjustments for our people with children (we work from home and if one of us has to step out to pick up a child, that's never a problem; somebody else can cover anything that comes up). Major holidays and vacations are first-come, first-served, with a dose of seniority.
I have seniority, but I'm also usually kind enough to shift things around a bit to accommodate others. Christmas week is a wasteland of nothing anyway, so most of us take off.
When emergencies with kids happen, I'm always willing to step in and help a coworker out. Your kid just threw up at school and you have to go pick them up? Sure, I'll cover for you, as long as I don't have important plans. If it's NOT an emergency, like a holiday or a trip, I'm a lot LESS willing to help out.
Basically, I treat any family excuse the same way. If it's an emergency, I'll do my best (to a point) to help. If it's not, I'll only cover if I feel like it. The only difference is that I accept that kids have "emergencies" much more often than other family members.
@@ytadventurer9170 Definitely, just as I'd help ANY coworker in an emergency. I'm talking about those who don't think they should be given those duties AT ALL, because they have kids. Or those who make it a habit of bailing because of their kids, and just expecting that everyone else will pick up their slack, not even leaving anything prepared for us to help with.
it's quite common here to have childless people work on christmas or new year's eve, because ThEy DoN't HaVe KiDs. apparently childless people don't have a personal life or so.
And also don't have children of you can't incorporate them in your life
It's okay to ask. It's also okay to say "no".
"No" is a complete sentence.
@@nolongeramused8135 yeah, but it never hurts to be civil. Just so long as you're also firm.
@@Rapscallion2009 Usually I start off with something like "I'm sorry, but I have plans." "No" is what eventually comes out after I start getting pestered by the clueless/entitled, and there will most certainly be a level of anger/irritation in my voice. After that it quickly becomes "Fuck no, and get the hell out of my face, asshole."
Amazingly, I was a frequent flier at "HR Airlines," even though I never got any perks other than people stopped bugging me about stupid shit.
no its not ok to ask, sort your own mess out
It’s not okay to ask if so did they ask us if they could have children 😂
Bosses and coworkers love to load work onto married people without children, and they especially love to do this to single people without children. And you know what Veronica would get out of cancelling her plans to accommodate this idiot? NOTHING, except a reputation for being a doormat, which is an invitation to do it again...and again. She handled it exactly right. "Lack of planning on your part does not necessarily constitute an emergency on my part."
As a woman let me just say that women who choose to have kids and still work have made that choice. If you want to be at your kids' events or even spend time with them be a stay at home mom. There I fixed it for yoy working moms that don't give a 100% to the job anyway.
“What are we going to do?”
I’m not going to do anything because it’s not my problem 😂
Oh I’ve gone through this… No kids, no significant other; must mean that I’m expendable. Oh and not worthy of a promotion…
A Poster said he or she was passed over for a Promotion for someone who had less Seniority over them because that person had kids and needed the money. Poster was livid. 😡🤬 (I am livid too and it didn't even happen to me! 😡🤬 The Audacity to pass over someone who has Seniority just because the other Person has kids! 😡🤬
@@karicewillis i empathize with this individual 100%! I went through that exact thing 3 times in my life. That’s when I made a choice to “act my wage”.
Oh I absolutely understand what parents need. That's specifically why I live my life without ever considering them.
same!
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Let's be real: even us parents are going to be on Veronica's side. LOL
I don't have kids, but I have parents, siblings, cousins... lots of people with whom I can spend special days!
I don't have kids and I've cut off a good portion of my family, but I have MEEEEEEEEE!!! I deserve my time away when I need it also, whether it's a vacation, staycation, mental health day, whatever.
I’d be like, “sure I’ll gladly move it for you, but it would cost approximately $1,750 because I’d have to rebook everything. How does that sound? Hello? Why you walking away?” 😂😂
THIS!
I've had employers literally tell me that there was no reason for me not to work overtime and double shifts, because i don't have a wife and kids.
Apparently not having kids means i have no life either.
People without kids are seen as second class citizens that should be working 24/7 to prove our worth to this crumbling society.
Yes! The entitlement is unbelievable 😮
I once worked somewhere where whether you had kids or not was a determining factor of whether they were going to keep you when lay-offs came around. They were also more lenient to people with kids coming in to work late and those of us without kids were held to stricter standards. I don’t think that that’s fair.
"Next time wear a rubber."
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that doesnt always work 😢😢
@@AdianAdi-oz1qkit’s a joke…
But pregnancy is the inherent risk of having sex, whether birth control is used or not. People who can’t handle the responsibility should consider that before fucking someone.
I'm trying to understand what this "emergency" event is. Don't schools events and activities outside of school also plan months in advance, and give parents the schedule?
Yeah, I don't have kids but I remember in school the field trips would be announced like a month or two in advance.
I remember getting a syllabus at the beginning of each school year that laid out trips excursions and events for the whole year….im sorry but poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine Stevie Griffin said it best.
Exactly and you get a calendar at the beginning of the school year so you know what days trips, etc are if you want to volunteer to help out. The only surprising things that happen are weather related but you should always have a back up friend or sitter for your kids. And I always remind parents who complain that they chose to have their children and that school employees are not babysitters no matter what the parent believes.
Yes, but in fairness school events that involve sports often get rescheduled due to weather conditions.
@@Evogurl-gf4ne True, but when I went back to watch the video again, she specified that it was a field trip, and I think she would have used the fact that it was rescheduled for sympathy, if that were the case. My guess is that she signed up, or her kid signed her up, for this and she forgot about it until the week before. Now she expects others to accommodate her.
“What are we gonna do?”
“No, what are *you* gonna do? There’s no “we” here.”
"You don't have kids mannn..."
"Your right and the moment we hit an Iceberg on the Titanic, you and your offspring get to survive. Until then...my PTO is scheduled before yours."
😮😮I may not have kids, but I have nieces/nephews, elderly parents , a husband and other life issues. We all have lives outside the job.
Ugh...I had this conversation with a delusional parent at a previous job. Heaven forbid I take time off to go on the honeymoon that my husband and I waited five years for.
Yep, I've already crossed paths with this particular brand of individuals 😅
As a parent, being a parent is not an excuse for poor planning. And if it's the school's fault you're only just hearing about this, you gotta take it up with said school, not your coworkers.
Veronica was more polite than me. I would've probably stop responding after the second or third reply
I don't have kids and always take my birthday off. New employee started and stated they wanted that date off as sons birthday. Even though I take the same leave every year. I was guilt tripped by everyone over this. Let them have it but never let it happen again. My husband also used to work on.xmas day, so his colleagues with young children could have it off. A lot of his colleagues appreciated it and some just thought it was there god given right to have it off. Don't get me wrong if we can help someone, we will. However don't play the child card with people. You don't know what heartache they might be hiding.
The neck movement, I'm dead
next time, plan accordingly and in advance, 'mommy.'
A friend of mine lies that she has a kid so that she can get extra time off from work
Good for her
Come to think of it I've probably got around 24 nieces, nephews, 2nd cousins... I'm sure I could just "claim" some of those were "mine!" 😂 😏
This burned me up more than it should. Your kids are your responsibility not mine
Honestly it seems like the wrong kinds of people have kids. I cannot stand when people use kids as leverage against others. If you're that kind of person, then you are not fit to be a parent. This is a sign of immaturity, and makes for a bad example to children.
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Women during divorce😂
How much are your child support payments? Lol
@@lelandgaunt9985Apparently it's okay to use kids as leverage when so-called wives leave their husbands. There's 💰 MONEY 💰 to be made by robbing him!!!
I’ve got kids and would never do that! You simply ask if they can change and if they say no you accept it and move on. I HAVE missed out on stuff with my kids, but they understand I have obligations as well and I do my best to manage all of that while still spending time with them and going to events.
Besides, people are way more likely to trade days off like that when you are respectful and not demanding.
Most people would rather manipulate than ask. Why? Because they want you to give them something at your expense while giving you a middle finger in return.
As a mom, I understand that field trips come up only a week or two before the event sometimes. However, don’t get mad at your coworkers for also needing time off. Get mad at management/HR for not finding a way for letting you both off. Get mad that there’s not enough staff.
I’ve planned a vacation with my husband (then boyfriend), and then one coworker got fired, and then the other coworkers tried to make me feel guilty and give up my leave because they had to pick up after the fired coworker. That was before kids. I went on my vacation.
@@alexandraphelps4020 WRONG! Nice try, but it’s a cop out. All field trips are planned within the first month or so of school even if the field trip isn’t until Spring. Buses need to be booked well in advance and most venues require a reservation and deposit. Reservations to venues and reservations to buses go fast which is why each grade level will know where they’re going well in advance. All events are on the school calendar for the year. So, “as a mom” you can easily find out where your child’s class is going weeks, months before the event instead of “acting” like this just came up. And besides, normally, one MAYBE two parents are needed to chaperone. Sounds like you’re volunteering and framing it like you NEED to go.
@jeffmejia3556 It's wonderful that's the way it works at the school you went to, or the school your kids go to, but that absolutely is not the case for all parents and all schools. Plenty of school events are planned only a few weeks in advance at the school where I work and parents are sometimes notified only a week or two in advance. This ABSOLUTELY does happen.
Finally someone has realized that it's a corporate environment issue which tends to fail both parents and childfree people instead of constantly moping about how awful the other party is.
Two coworkers take the same day off: Chaos.
Holiday happens on Thursday: Screw it, 4 day weekend for everyone.
This shit happened to me daily at my last job. It was awful, the supervisors did nothing to stop it.
As a parent, V is absolutely right
I have 2 weeks off booked at the end of July/beginning of August. With the way my shift pattern works it means I'm off for 26 days. I've had it booked off for three months and I have zero plans for those days. I might sit in the garden, I might pay video games, I might go away on a short break to Paris. Who knows? What I do know is I'm off those days and I don't care if your kids have stuff you need the time off for, they aren't my kids. The only time I've reorganised my holiday time was when my co-worker's wife was pregnant and had a really difficult birth and he needed time off to help her. That was important enough for me to reschedule. The woman nearly died, I'm not a monster. I'll help out in a situation like that, but anything less serious get's a no from me. (Mom and baby recovered fine and everything worked out for the best, so it was all good in the end).
I used to work with a woman who was ALWAYS on the phone with her teenagers during the summer when school was closed. It was very disruptive and she definitely wasn't a team player because she was too busy talking on the damn phone.
The woman with kids doesn't actually think having kids makes her more important than Veronica or less flexible than Veronica or any of that. She's just a manipulator, and that's the manipulation she thought was most likely to convince Veronica to give her what she wanted. Basically a workplace version of "do it for the children."
Me…. The major perk of being single, no wife/girlfriend/kids/baggage, is I’m free to book my holidays well in advance because there’s no other people involved or compromises or waiting for others to get their situations cleared, so within days of the new holiday year I’m already booked my main days off, first in with the booking gets priority, the flip side is I’m usually expected to fill in for when people are off unexpectedly, but then again, any overtime I do I can convert into holiday time
U knew not to test Veronica 😂
Ma’am, ain’t nobody told you to have them kids and be late with your time off request!🤦🏻♀️🤣
But, what I will tell you is that I’m on vacation next week!👏👏👏🤣
Veronica also said she had tickets. Plane tickets may not be refundable. I’m taking a trip next month and booked non-refundable tickets. I fly out Friday afternoon which I always have off. If someone dares ask me to stay late, I’ll be saying no
Its not my fault that you have kids and not your fault that i do not.
See ya
"Yeah...I'm going to ask you to leave my office. Stop talking, and leave?"
It’s the same with smoke breaks. Non smokers have to stay and work while smokers get more breaks.
The entire time I'm thinking "...and that's my problem becaaaause...?
It's the audacity for me 😅😅😅
I am always ready to help out when an emergency comes up with the colleagues' kids. What I can't bear is the fact that I plan my important days off nearly a year in advance and other ones come up with a request just a few days ahead although they knew it for months. And when not getting what they want pulling the kids card and saying I can take another day off because I have no kids and no responsibilities as I am a citizien second class for not having kids.
I had a job do this to me one time on Christmas and i quit that day. I told them if they need someone so badly they are going to have to being in one of the parents because i quit effective immediately. I had literally asked for the day off the year in advance and got it approved and they tried to change it 2 weeks before
Months before? Even if I'd booked my leave an hour before your "emergency", I'd still be entitled to say the same thing.
Veronica so SAVAGE!!!
I know a guy who was passed up for promotion by someone with years less seniority than them because, "he has kids he needs the money"
It’s definitely not all or even most of them, but there’s this small subset of parents that seem to think reproducing has entitled them to special benefits at the expense of others. Ironically, these are the same parents that treat their children like extensions of themselves and not separate human beings and try to shove them down a certain path in life with zero consideration for the child’s interests.
It's a FIELD TRIP that child is NOT gonna miss you being there. The audacity of ppl I stg
i'm so glad this attitude is sooo slowly changing in the military as well. i've been active duty for 18 years and this has been a relative constant that people with a family are prioritized over people with no family when it comes to leaving work for appointments and things.
I feel this. It is real.
Someone finding out the hard way their lack of forethought and planning isn't someone else's emergency.
Make snot goblins, have snot goblin issues. 😂
You were one of those nasty ones too
At a previous job where I was office manager it was understood by my boss and my co-worker with children (small office) that I took the Olympic fortnight off. I love the Olympics and that fortnight has always been sacrosanct to me, so my leave for the next one is always booked the day I return to work from the current one (doesn't matter now, I work from home so the tv is on constantly). All the rest of the time I took my annual leave around my boss and co-worker's school holiday needs. Then we got a new full time worker in, she had children. The first year she booked and paid for a two week holiday during the school summer holidays without checking first to see if anyone else was off (my other colleague and my boss both had children). The two weeks she'd booked was Olympic fortnight. Suddenly it was everyone else's problem that her husband's employers closed for two weeks during the school holidays and that was the only time the whole family could take holiday together. She tried to bully me into giving up my two weeks so she didn't have to cancel her holiday. I refused. My boss backed me she was livid but, strangely, she somehow found a way round the problem.
Employer's inability to adequately accommodate 2 people being off at once is a benefit to them, because it means employees will blame and fight with each other instead of the employer.
Working in the plumbing and heating industry, I dealt with this during our after-hours on-call rotation. Some guys would say that they couldn't be on the schedule because they had kids and all the activities that go with that, such as sports. One company I worked for, my call partner, was one of those guys who would constantly forward everything to me. He was also best buddies with the boss's kid, so nothing was done about it. I left when I started to get really pissed about every fourth week turning into a 90-hour week. The checks were okay, but it was mentally draining.
Had a coworker try to get me involved in a conversation with some residents. (I work in a nursing home.) Asked me if I had kids. No. Am I planning? I'm single, so....no...I'm not about to open that can of worms. Do I want any? Absolutely not.
"Oh but you'll come to love them when you do have them!"
"......I already can't stand adult humans...why would I want mini humans? I have no desire for any romantic relationships and I'm not gonna be a single mother while working for a laughable wage. I can hardly keep myself alive right now. Let me be responsible for my own demise, not for the demise of others please."
What's funny is that the old folks who overheard this were supportive and praised me for being a responsible person. That coworker doesn't like me XD
Her: "So what are we gonna do?"
Me: "Well I'm gonna take next week off because I have plans and scheduled time off three months in advance. I'm not really sure what you're gonna do nor am I really worried about it cause it's not really my problem
I love this 😭💞 thank you youtube algorithm for recommending 🙏
When someone says, “ . . . but the school didn’t give us notice until just recently,” or some crap like that I just remind the parent that that’s the choice they made when they decided to have kids. I remind them of how they criticize me and my husband even “pity” us sometimes for choosing such an “empty” life (seriously 🤣). Vacation versus obligation. We’re not that selfless. We like vacations, free time, me time, us time, romantic evenings, romantic mornings, socializing, our savings bank accounts, a neat house, hobbies, nice everything, so we chose not to have children. They chose to have the “greatest joy and reward” in life. They chose what “really defines a person” 🤦🏻♀️ So, go be a parent and tell your kid that grandma, aunt, uncle, or the neighbor is going to their event, but they’re going to film it so mommy can see it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Stuff that this should really be added to abstinence only Sex Ed. Could seriously kick up the efficacy.
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Yep. My best buddies have kids, and school fees, and after school classes, and clothes to buy, and school uniforms, and trips costing $$$$$, and have to attend recitals/games/concerts etc whether they like it or not. They drive soccer mom SUVs, are only available for a beer if we book it weeks in advance, and when we DO catch up, all they do is piss and moan about their lives.
Meanwhile, I just traded my ageing Boxster for a new MX5 RF. Which is parked outside my paid-for condo. I literally do what I want, when I want, where I want, with whom I want. It makes me wonder how many parents, if they were given the chance to go back in time and NOT have kids, would go through with it and stay child-free. I suspect the actual number would be very significant.
People with kids want, and work for those things too. It's not just single, or childless people who want, and have, everything you listed. Just a thought.
@@jennifercheney4353Probably shouldn't have had kids, I guess.
i HATE it when they tell me " you dont have kids nor are married, ergo, you dont have a family" Apparently i materialized out of thin air and puff here i am! I guess my parents, sister, brother and my niece and nephew dont count and i cant go see them because other people's kids have priority over them! HHHHHHHAAAAAAAHAHAHA GTFO with that!!!
In my call centre days, the entitlement was real... I was told that I shouldn't get prime shifts because I didn't have kids... My response was that if they got their metrics up they could get prime shifts too... :D No sympathy from me if you're gonna be a bitch and say I don't deserve what I earned...
As a person with kids, I fully support Veronica. If you have kids, you have to be organised. If you’re not, that’s no one else’s problem but your own. Hope you enjoyed that week off, girl!
Awesome I have just started watching your videos and really you tell the bitter truth of Corporates but in a fun way.
Keep going !😂
0:24 "It's not like it's impor-ent..."
I’ve noticed some New Yorkers don’t pronounce the “t” in the middle of a word.
And the slow “what did you just say?”
I also understand that "parents sometimes need to show up for their kids" yes, they absolutely should, and sometimes that requires sacrifice. Sometimes they have to decide what worths more and call in sick, leave early, or flat out tell the boss the kids come first, sorry.
I knew where this was going and I was all ready for it.
Literal facts. I have coworkers tell me this all the time and I’m straight with them. However, if I have nothing going on or need the extra money, it’s no biggie. That’s pretty rare though.
Ive had conversations so many times about stuff like this even with schedules or shifts people always say they have kids and get treated like the ceo when I dont have kids so I get whatever crap schedule is left so infuriating
Haha Veronica is my girl
Love it!!
As a parent, i find it easy to plan in advance days i need off. Schools give plenty of notice for things.
I know a few senior colleagues with kids. They're always busy talking on the phone, monitoring their family things.
"Madam, I have no say in your family planning. Hence, you have no say in mine. Thank you. "
Single in the military was exactly like this. Except the single person usually got sh1t on.
Ugh... Those mandatory FRG meetings, which always had that one wife (never saw this with the rare husband dependant) , who seems to think the single soldiers were some kind of free labor.
It's your damn meeting; you and the rest of the wives can move the f'ing tables and chairs.
I was in the reserves and other coworkers would try to guilt trip me into taking overtime that they signed up for. "Well you were gone Thursday and Friday last week, so you should take my Saturday and Sunday so I could go to my sister's babyshower."
Mind you, she did not put in a formal request through her supervisor and wants to take time off at the last second. These folks act like I was on vacation for the whole 4 days that I was out of state.
Awesome. Cutting through the bullshit. Subbed
She waited until the last minute to take time off. So sad, too bad. Next time request it in advance.
"Your poor planning does not constitute an emergency on my part."
My time off is more important than your time off because I have kids and you wouldn't understand. Sigh. I have heard that argument before and it's a no-go.
Your lack of planning is not my emergency!
I love the narrator's voice
I missed the part where that's my problem.
Her: “what are we gonna do?”
Me: “No ma’am. What are YOU gonna do?”
Prepare the otherssssss😂
Also idk why ppl think our lives are easier without kids . Life just be lifeing
I purposely CHOSE not to have kids, just like people chose to have kids, and that's wonderful. The rest of the world doesn't have to be conditional on either of our choices. Life is life and we are all in it together.
When I heard Veronica say "What I'm gonna do now is get back to work while you walk away," I LMFAO! I'm childless and I felt that. I would hate for a parent to try me like that.
they do, I never changed any hours or schedules for them, it is between them and hr. not me.
And that's on Period!