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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024

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  • @YourAverageTechBro
    @YourAverageTechBro  Год назад +21

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  •  Год назад +252

    These guys are good in what they do. Jetbrains really kicks ass.
    Im still using VSCode tho.

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp Год назад +11

      Well ide means integrated . Jet brains is Very integrated.
      More than ever Visual Studio .
      Perhaps the good thing about VsCode is that its really a modular text editor , not an IDE .

    • @jongeduard
      @jongeduard Год назад +14

      @@monad_tcp I think we should no longer consider that to be true. I consider VS Code an IDE, just a modular one. It has literally all functionality that any IDE has and has become quite large these days.
      If you take away the shifting definitions of these days and look at the past and how IDEs where in the past, they didn't even come close to what VS Code has these days.
      However I am not saying that it's better then IntelliJ IDEs, because I don't know enough about those, I hear only positive stories about it. But also that it's quite expensive. If you pay mony, you expect something to be great. Which does not always hold for Visual Studio sadly, due to the number of bugs and issues.

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp Год назад +1

      @@jongeduard VsCode is something between full-blown IDEs and minimalist text editors .
      You might be right too too.
      I actually use the 3 things.
      I have a bare VsCode with nothing just for fast start, my VsCode that I use as IDE and Full blown Visual Studio and even CLion , we use what's best for the job we are doing, they're tools.
      I even use fte when I need to edit files from the terminal.
      We just need a category for medium-size IDE/Text editors. Perhaps MDE , modular developer environment .
      I dunno.
      I still think VsCode is kinda small, anything less than 200MB is small for me. But I have 128GB of RAM, so there that.
      Our definitions might vary .

    • @jongeduard
      @jongeduard Год назад +4

      ​@@monad_tcp I was not really talking about memory usage, but functionality and use cases.
      32 GB RAM is enough for me by the way, I need nothing more 99,9% of the time, for more we have swap space.
      But talking about memory, it's kinda interesting. VS Code never uses very little memory, since it runs on Electron and always needs an entire chromium browser engine. But for such an app I think it is efficient, because of the plugin concept and how things get loaded and unloaded.
      Most Electron apps are crap.

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp Год назад +1

      @@jongeduard VsCode is the exception of electrons . First because it is not made like a web app , but much more like a real application.
      Second, it uses a lot of native plug-ins to speed up execution of critical parts instead of everything being JS.
      And third, it actually uses the chromium preloader to load the core JS files directly from the compressed zip into memory.
      It even has a snapshot feature to preload things .
      Yes, most electron apps are crap, it would be better if web developers didn't exist, I mean, electron didn't exist .
      In theory , one could even preload entire V8 state with the JS already translated to machine code.
      But you pay heavily in memory usage , not so much in IO because windows prefetch is actually good when you close and open a lot of memory mapped files on disk.
      You obviously end up needing 2GB and 2GB of cache , it's 4GB only for VsCode.
      And then you open visual studio 4GB . An more 4GB of disk cache.
      And then 2 Firefoxes instances.
      And now you look at your 32GB it doesn't seem like much anymore , specially because Windows itself uses 3GB steady state . Now you're like 70% loaded (including disk cache).
      See 32GB isn't much , because obviously you already have a 8GB Linux VM running on background so you can compile multiplataform software .

  • @TakeOnMe5
    @TakeOnMe5 Год назад +1

    4:10 you can just disable it by right clicking and disabling it. It's one of the first things I do after a fresh install of webstorm or intellij.

  • @photorealm
    @photorealm Год назад

    I will stay with VS for my current use cases, but good to know what's out there.

  • @Razzy_III
    @Razzy_III Год назад

    Who’s Goodbye and why they gonna fight code?

  • @acidhauss7018
    @acidhauss7018 Год назад

    I can see the appeal of WebStorm especially if coding is just a 9-5 thing to you and don't want to go to all the trouble of setting up all the micro-optimisations yourself.
    For me I doubt I'll ever try it - I just rarely need a full IDE experience for FE development, and I'm sure its a good 10-15% slower than VSC.

  • @JenuelDevTutors
    @JenuelDevTutors Год назад

    I also started using jetbrains products,, all the words you said are true.. it basically setsup everything for me, and I dont have to spend time setting up my editor, instead focus more on work.

  • @padcom
    @padcom Год назад +7

    Please... webstorm? Really? Don't get me wrong, but there's nothing, literally nothing that will make me switch to a paid product when an editor as powerful as vscode is there. It's fast, it's not "just for" anything and I can't think of a single reason to promote it (other than to get paid to do so). But.... that's me..

  • @almarn
    @almarn Год назад +2

    BS..Tell us you get money from the company making webstorm....youtube is full of people like this one..explaining us why they switch from this or that...to get money from hits...and ads....

    • @YourAverageTechBro
      @YourAverageTechBro  Год назад

      I haven't responded to many comments on this video, but I'll respond to this one. I have not gotten paid by JetBrains (the creators of Webstorm). I paid for this software out of pocket. Whenever I am paid to make a video, I always disclose that information and am upfront whether something is sponsored or not. This is not one of those videos. I don't even have an affiliate link for the software, it's just a normal download link. You don't have to switch to anything, chill. I'm just happy with my experience using Webstorm and wanted to share that piece of info

  • @lshadowSFX
    @lshadowSFX Год назад +38

    vscode is the serious best. you add whatever functionality you want, sure a bit of time needed, but after you are done, you can sync settings, it's all ready without needing to config stuff over and over and... it's free. the amount of quality and for free, it's insane.

    • @robby3467
      @robby3467 5 месяцев назад

      It's also a totally unintuitive mess. The only thing in its favor is it's better than Eclipse.

    • @CosplayZine
      @CosplayZine Месяц назад

      They're ending support for it soon

  • @JustBCWi
    @JustBCWi Год назад +5

    You're moving to a $150/year subscription because you don't want to think about your editor? I've used VSCode for a few years now. Apart from setting the theme, font and a couple other things, I rarely---if ever---adjust the settings. Only if a default is patently annoying, which is rare. Did they comp you for this product placement?

  • @truefirstmagic
    @truefirstmagic Год назад +80

    As a multi-decade developer that spent most of my career coding in vim, I switched over to jetbrains products (with a vim plugin, of course) a couple years ago and haven’t looked back. Best in class IDEs, and the price is actually quite reasonable.

    • @cheng-alvin
      @cheng-alvin 7 месяцев назад +3

      So, do you just unplug your computer every time to exit vim?

    • @BlueSky_fur
      @BlueSky_fur 7 месяцев назад

      @@cheng-alvinis that not how you do it 🤔 😂
      (This is a joke.)

    • @truefirstmagic
      @truefirstmagic 7 месяцев назад

      @@cheng-alvin just never exit vim. problem solved :D

  • @sonluuh
    @sonluuh Год назад +125

    JB family is IDE, not text editor. The reason behind their convenience is that they bundle utilities tools together (linter, formatter, code completer,...). They make you happy. Text editor is for editting text. Nano/sed/vim are created for that purpose. But you can make the text editor become IDE with the extensions. You just dont want to manage these extensions yourself. :D

    • @YourAverageTechBro
      @YourAverageTechBro  Год назад +21

      100% correct I do not want to manage the extensions myself haha

    • @favouruko
      @favouruko Год назад +3

      But you have to it's helpful anyways

    • @brokencrayon3476
      @brokencrayon3476 Год назад +3

      @@YourAverageTechBro hes wrong in some ways. I develop plugins for the jetbrains platforms and am an avid VS Code hater. Although he is correct that JB mainly focuses on IDEs, BUT this does not mean VSCode is a good Text Editor. The thing with VSCode is it uses a language server and scopes to highlight syntax and give that syntax sugar that you find in VS plugins. With this being said, it is FAR from perfect and gets tricked up. Jetbrains IDEs go off of a bnf grammar that defines what an error is in the language. This allows the editor portion of their IDEs to be all knowing. The editor knows FORSURE what class your in and what the children and parents are.

    • @brokencrayon3476
      @brokencrayon3476 Год назад +3

      You will NEVER be able to replicate a Jetbrains language editor plugin to VSCode because of how limited their parsers are. IMO VS Code is overhyped, when fleet becomes stable I'm sure VS Code will become a thing of the past

    • @sonluuh
      @sonluuh Год назад

      @@brokencrayon3476 The point here is: you no longer have to manage the plugin. (JB's family managed set by default (formatter, code completetion, ...). Not VSCode is better than JB. In my work, I use vim/vscode/pycharm together. And replicate the extension from one platform to another platform is hard (but that is not the point! - In case you mis understood me)

  • @thereal-ghost
    @thereal-ghost 10 месяцев назад +1

    Big OOF on moving away from VSCode. Dude went to JetBrains bloatware. Sorry man but unless your stuck in the early 2000s writing PHP code, there's 0 reason to work in any Jetbrains IDE. VSCode just does everything better and has a much larger ecosystem. It's like saying I want to write code in the worst possible fashion but I don't want to use vim so what's the 2nd worst.

  • @hmz121fast
    @hmz121fast 7 месяцев назад +1

    Vscode has no one competitor ,
    + free + OSource , simple, fast, reliable..etc, JBWS not bad to know
    About it, but i won't buy it

  • @AdamJensenReal
    @AdamJensenReal Год назад +1

    I don't know why this video is in recommended for me but I don't like that your new IDE I still love VS code and its free and so much better than any other...I don't understand why should I use IDE with less customisations and tweaks and its not even free :). Its like using apple products, but that's another topic.

  • @truthteachers
    @truthteachers Год назад +1

    You need to learn something. Please do not mislead. Webstorm is for Javascript whereas is VS Code is all. This is what webstorm says "The Best JavaScript IDE - WebStorm by JetBrains". So please correct this video and your presentation. Thank you.

  • @yolamontalvan9502
    @yolamontalvan9502 Год назад +1

    How much are they paying you to say talon here? Jet Brains is famous for creating great IDE and everything you can do on your fav IDE Can be done on VS Code. The thing is we don’t want to be stuck using one IDE because when programmers move to another company he might be forced to use another IDE. The company policy might be that everybody must used same software.

  • @vincentb.8743
    @vincentb.8743 7 месяцев назад +1

    Nooo ... WebStorm gets really heavy when projects start getting bigger !!

  • @BGdev305
    @BGdev305 7 месяцев назад +1

    i stopped watching at about 2 mins in.. whats the point of taking so long to simply name the IDE you moved to?
    Say what it is and then go into the diatribe

  • @IRDazza
    @IRDazza Год назад +1

    VSCode - Free ! Webstorm $159.00 to $779.00 PER YEAR!
    Webstorm is expensive.
    I assume you get a kickback for this video!

  • @rj7855
    @rj7855 Год назад +1

    I used jetbrains IDE for 6 years last year I switched to........ Vs code and never looked back.

  • @yehielamar3661
    @yehielamar3661 Год назад +1

    Sorry - but webstorm (and intellij products in general) are memory eating products that are shameful to charge a dime on

  • @gabrielgracenathanana1713
    @gabrielgracenathanana1713 Год назад +1

    Not sure why you do not like vscode. You did not explain- are you saying vscode is too difficult? Also, do not like your tone - that nasal tone.

  • @Br0adCastYourS3lf
    @Br0adCastYourS3lf Год назад +1

    Looking forward to the video where you switch back to VS Code (after crying bitter tears to your mommy first of course). 🤣

  • @judahwilson6756
    @judahwilson6756 Год назад +12

    It's been my opinion for a long time that I'd really prefer an IDE dedicated to the thing you're doing, having most features out of the box.

  • @ravirajdulange9406
    @ravirajdulange9406 Год назад +112

    Idk, this video gave the whole vibe of, "Tell me you're lazy, without telling me you're lazy"

    • @BrianOSheaPlus
      @BrianOSheaPlus Год назад +48

      Laziness is one of the three great virtues of a programmer.

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp Год назад +6

      ​@@BrianOSheaPlusno, that was said by bill gates semi-ironically

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp Год назад +3

      The thing with VsCode is that it allows you to optimize your workflow.
      And I was a Visual Studio diehard how used tons of extensions and even made my own ones.
      VsCode is just easier and ironically lazier.
      Programmers are lazy in that they work real hard to automate away their job.
      But this guy is doing it wrong, you don't just buy a optimized workflow .
      Perhaps if you're doing the absolute most basic thing , that might fly. But he's a web developer, they're trend followers and do what everything else does, so they might cheat like that. The workflow is already optimized. And besides that what's new about yet another typescript react boring app/landing page .
      I mean, it's not about price either, I own Visual Studio for hells sake.
      For me it doesn't work. Because I have to edit C++ files, then CMake, then Java or Kotlin, then Powershell, then F# , then C#, then Python .
      every day , every new project, a different programming language , because I live on the bleeding edge and I'm a system builder, I don't live boxed inside a browser or a node VM.
      Guess what editor fits all of those ? Ironically VsCode.
      And I still have full featured Visual Studio and even Android Studio in the toolset .
      I don't have anything against JetBrains, they make good IDEs , very integrated, very restrictive and hard to customize.
      I even use Clion to write my C++ for NDK and IOS.
      But there's always a time to migrate to something better, Webstorm IDE isn't it.
      Once I even used Sublime Text as a text editor.
      I think we should all go back to that DOS Edit_com Basic text editor. Or Turbo Pasc.
      I for once think of going Qbasic like bisquit .
      Embrace simplicity ,forfeit luxury .
      And no, it's not vim, I use a PC, not a PDP11 , VI keybinding are retarded on PCs. No point in using anything that doesn't follow the DOS EDIT key bindings and text editing .
      Also, no emacs , this is not a Apple ][ either

    • @BrianOSheaPlus
      @BrianOSheaPlus Год назад

      @@monad_tcp nope, I was quoting Larry Wall.

    • @techinerds5806
      @techinerds5806 Год назад

      I like to learn any advance concept in y seconds

  • @doooom911
    @doooom911 Год назад +1

    Man! breath a bit , you speak faster than my wife when she is angry!!!!

  • @thomasparker9531
    @thomasparker9531 Год назад +1

    Water is wet, who knew?

  • @SumanNath25
    @SumanNath25 8 месяцев назад +1

    But why you need to learn and configure an editor everyday?

  • @gavinmurambadoro
    @gavinmurambadoro Год назад +11

    This is the functionality that an IDE provides to a developer. JetBrains IDEs as well as Microsoft's Visual Studio (not code) fall in the same bracket. VS Code is just a lightweight editor whose basic functionality can be boosted by extensions, but I don't think it will reach the same level as what these IDEs provide by default (..yet)

    • @dmitriyobidin6049
      @dmitriyobidin6049 Год назад +3

      But VSCode kinda outgrew it's purpose and now is treated like a full blown IDE, loosing the stuff that gave it an advantage over IDEs in the first place, like minimal startup time and configuration.

    • @brandyballoon
      @brandyballoon 8 месяцев назад

      @@dmitriyobidin6049 Agreed. I'm not sure what VSCode is trying to be these days, because it's not particularly good at being either an IDE or a lightweight code editor.

  • @aleejunaid
    @aleejunaid Год назад +1

    LOL
    I moved from WebStorm to VSCode 4 years ago ... and after WebStorm / IntelliJ from JetBrains,,, I still feel Visual Studio and VSCode are wayyyyy better ... My Opinion!

    • @aleejunaid
      @aleejunaid Год назад +1

      Back in the day, it always felt like JetBrains were copying Visual Studio ...

  • @josevsebastian2909
    @josevsebastian2909 Год назад +2

    i think you just got bored with vs code. you'll probably switch back once you get to the point where you realise that you can't do any customization at all... give it a year at the most. and that's being generous.

  • @arkalpha2x
    @arkalpha2x Год назад +2

    VIM all day everyday, from day one. No one can show me anything better than VIM.

    • @ole7138
      @ole7138 10 месяцев назад

      You are a smart man

  • @blogblocks8370
    @blogblocks8370 Год назад +2

    Why didn't the words 'VS Code is free' ever get mentioned ? VS Code is free WebStorm is not.

    • @thelamarcke
      @thelamarcke Год назад

      He did mention that Jetbrains offers a free trial and that he's planning on renewing it. I believe most people that click on a video named "Goodbye VS Code" know that VS Code is free.

  • @VictorTheBranchPredictor
    @VictorTheBranchPredictor 11 месяцев назад +1

    damn man
    I wish you luck with indexing bugs

  • @saurabhjainwal4604
    @saurabhjainwal4604 Год назад +5

    With my experience I can say for sure, that people like him change font/coding-environment/themes. Almost every week/month.
    Don't focus on this find one thing stick with it. Sure you should check out new things no issues there, but if you are a professional and part of team it's better to stick with what's decided by the team.

  • @sivuyilemagutywa5286
    @sivuyilemagutywa5286 Год назад +15

    I moved from VSCode to Neovim and once you use vim you join a community, so you will eventually spend time configuring. I have been using vim for like 2 years now and I also think Vim also helps with the burnout and the best part is I never have to leave the terminal. I use a potato PC, it's only 16g of ram, VSCode (Electron) + Chrome (I open lots of tabs) , use like 50%. I have never tried Webstorm, but I did use Sublime.

    • @jabuci
      @jabuci Год назад +2

      I'm playing with Helix right now. Similar to Neovim but the configuration is much simpler. It has no plugin support (yet), all the goodies are included. It's worth a try. I also used vim for about 15 years but plugins and configuration took too much time.

    • @TheoParis
      @TheoParis Год назад +1

      @@jabuci I wanted to use helix but unfortunately I need plugin support so I'm stuck on neovim for now.

    • @orwellmushaikwa2591
      @orwellmushaikwa2591 Год назад +8

      Lol 16Gb RAM is pretty standard bro. Some people still use laptops and PC's on 8Gb RAM 😂. I recently got a 16Gb RAM MacBook. To some extent I do wish I could have got a 32Gb one because it's so fast I can easily get carried away with the number of programs I have open. But then the budget wouldn't allow 😔. Still 16Gb is functional, just need to keep track of your resources 😅.

    • @LcyYoutube
      @LcyYoutube Год назад

      Hey Sivuyile, I am just starting out "vim" (vim vscode extension). Do you have any recommendations other than practicing, for becoming more used to it? Or do you have some interesting resources?

    • @SquierMarr
      @SquierMarr Год назад

      ​@@orwellmushaikwa2591 yeah I've literally been using intellij with chrome open at the same time on my 8gb ram Ryzen 5 laptop since I got laid off recently. My computer does not explode. It's fine most of the time though I wouldn't really choose it but I think I could work quite fine like that on 16gb ram I wouldn't call it a potato

  • @banwa_non
    @banwa_non Год назад +1

    It's ugly. For Git Ui, I use gitkraken.

  • @AustinGarcia-Color
    @AustinGarcia-Color 11 месяцев назад +1

    Haha 😂 look at all the vscode users getting defensive.

  • @Cod3rMax
    @Cod3rMax 9 месяцев назад +1

    Jetbrain are great but the prices…..

  • @thebeeamberheardsdogsteppe6368
    @thebeeamberheardsdogsteppe6368 Год назад +1

    how is that breaking news? why would anyone care which editor u use?

  • @dew_reddit
    @dew_reddit Месяц назад +1

    1 yr since this video, not a single developer switched away from vscode. What a load of BS this guy talked about 😂

    • @toby9999
      @toby9999 Месяц назад

      That's BS. How would you know who or how many developers switched away? I bet you didn't know I switched away, right? VSCode is crap. The problem is in finding decent alternatives for a specific language. For C++, it's a no-brainer. For Java, it's not so easy. Expensive IntelliJ and garbage Eclipse the two main alternatives.

    • @dew_reddit
      @dew_reddit 29 дней назад

      @@toby9999 just go to stackoverflow survey to get a reality check. Also IntelliJ is perfect for Java and there’s no alternative for it at all. Community edition is free and good enough to build any enterprise level solution let alone others.
      Sorry to burst your bubble.

  • @HiDefMediaInc
    @HiDefMediaInc Год назад +1

    It’s crazy expensive. No thanks.

  • @SamKling
    @SamKling Год назад +5

    Big jetbrains fan, I personally use intellij for kotlin but have used webstorm before and also preferred it over other editors.

  • @geomorillo
    @geomorillo 9 месяцев назад +1

    Ws is paid i still prefer vscode

  • @brenotome
    @brenotome Год назад +5

    The thing that gets me is stability. Python is my main language, and i can never rely on the test explorer in vscode, it also get lost with imports sometimes, pycharm have less features, by every single thing they add works well and keep working.
    I won't switch for Python, but for C++, Clion can figure out itself even on very weird projects, on embeded system's that have very limited debug capabilities, having an editor that can point out your mistakes early and don't get lost on imports makes a lot of difference.

  • @jmon24ify
    @jmon24ify 9 месяцев назад +2

    "UI is ugly" well there are themes and you can customize the font, font size, leading and so much more right from the settings or press shift twice on your keyboard and type what you are looking for. "warning for commit" You can turn that off in the commit settings. I open my commit messages as a dialog, not on the left side like you, but in the dialog, you can uncheck 'analyze code' and whatever else to not get those warnings. Or, again, press shift twice in your keyboard, and type what you want.

  • @iamvalenci4
    @iamvalenci4 Год назад +1

    $159.00 per year to make something that you can do in your terminal for free

  • @S_Crypto
    @S_Crypto Год назад +1

    Please, that's time wasting 🙄

  • @rahul_bali
    @rahul_bali Год назад +1

    I will look for a crack of this.

  • @youvegotmail9385
    @youvegotmail9385 Год назад +6

    I've used IntelliJ for Java projects and that is THE most powerful ide I've ever used. It takes take quite a bit of load on my computer, but it's a really awesome ide. I'm still using VSCode for now. Also, the testing is great on IntelliJ.

    • @jakubrogacz6829
      @jakubrogacz6829 Год назад

      Dunno now but used to be JetBrains soft was more RAM conservative compared to VSC ( but node probably is better now since VSC started to be fast )

  • @isaaclowe5000
    @isaaclowe5000 2 месяца назад +1

    Look into Islam inshaAllah (God Willing)

  • @Eyeshotify
    @Eyeshotify Год назад +1

    Is it free? No?
    Well bye.

  • @wild.legend-music
    @wild.legend-music Год назад +1

    And here I am using notepad++.

  • @patrickren7395
    @patrickren7395 Год назад +10

    I agree with all your points. But VS code is so universal that knowing it's shortcut keys is just convenient. Places like Codesandbox, Typescript playground all support vs code key bindings out of the box. Things like Cmd + Shift + K will delete a line of code, Alt + Arrow will move line around, etc.
    As for plugins I think they are fine, vs code will sync settings/plugins by default as long as you use the same account.
    I do miss the freedom of using vim though.

  • @rodnik96
    @rodnik96 Год назад +3

    Thanks a lot for the subtitles! I need it very much! I am deaf and want to become a developer. Your videos are very cool!😇

  • @Denvercoder
    @Denvercoder Год назад +3

    “Tech Bro discovers WebStorm in 2023.” 😂

  • @jmnoob1337
    @jmnoob1337 Год назад +7

    I fell in love with vim keybinds. Used them in vs-code for a few months before someone showed me a vim config and that got me into using actual (neo)vim with custom configs. Then I spent tons of time perfecting my config. And I still don't quite like it.
    I love that there is always more to learn with Vim, I could probably learn a new keybind every week for a long while. But customization does kinda get out of hand, with so many ways of setting up the editor.

    • @YourAverageTechBro
      @YourAverageTechBro  Год назад +1

      10000000% I feel this. Customization is a never ending cycle and just would always want to tweak something. Cognitive load got way too high for me lol

    • @-Engineering01-
      @-Engineering01- Год назад +3

      The real problem is: lot of us don't have tons of free time to customize *vim. always turn on my PC, do my 9-5 work then power off it.

    • @greyhound1982
      @greyhound1982 7 месяцев назад

      @YourAverageTechBro the higher barrier for VIM is the main culprit for a person like me working in research projects. For me i dedicate my free time learning math

  • @codedusting
    @codedusting Год назад +1

    You will use vscode.

  • @stashladki2594
    @stashladki2594 Год назад +19

    About the warning you think are redundant for you: try right-clicking on them, it should provide you a setting right there to hide that particular type of warning or suggestion. You basically configure those settings naturally as you write more code and bumping into behaviours you'd like to change!

    • @IStMl
      @IStMl Год назад +3

      Nah but he wants it to be the default
      Right-clicking is too much effort, the devs should've made his personal preference the default

    • @paradiseonheaven
      @paradiseonheaven Год назад

      lets face it .
      The trend is ...
      1.VSCODE for simplicity.
      2. Switch to IntelliJ for "wow features".
      3. Learn from seniors that VSCODE has incredible features as well.
      4. Use Both IDE's.
      5. Switch to VSCODE again as you do multi-project.
      6. Understand that IDE's can be programming language based.
      7. Have Visual Studio, Visual Studio Code, Webstorm & Android Studio installed at same time.

    • @brandyballoon
      @brandyballoon 8 месяцев назад

      I don't recommend suppressing warnings. It's easy enough to have a quick look and ignore them, but what if you really did make a harmful mistake one day and missed it because the warning was suppressed?

  • @build-things
    @build-things Год назад +4

    I love jetbrains ide's.. I use webstorm, intellij and rider at work. All amazing especially for executing tests and my two fav hot keys (shift shift) (ctrl shift f) for searching

  • @mailmallett
    @mailmallett 5 дней назад

    I disagree. The nitty gritty and attention to detail is the key to being a good programmer and not just a coder spitting out code. This is why software sucks these days. Back in the Sega mega drive days once the game was released they where done. I'm sure you are a talented programmer but I don't like this coorperate attitude of code today fix it tommorow.

  • @orestesdd
    @orestesdd Год назад +7

    Webstorm is too expensive for a retired web developer. I think VS code is just fine as I need to learn C++ language as in my youth I learned COBOL, COBOL II, Pascal, C, Javascript, and Java. Other stuff I learned too was HTML, XML, and some things I don't remember as I was force to retire in 2012.

  • @MeonisRP
    @MeonisRP Год назад +2

    The Webstorm auto refactoring feature just sold it to me instantly :D

  • @Kevinschart
    @Kevinschart Год назад +5

    I'm a purist and minimalist at heart. I started coding on BBEdit. I liked it because it didn't hold my hand. Forced me to hone my debugging. I tried Webstorm and it was just to much. Went back to BBEdit. Finally gave VS Code a shot. It worked, it had jupyter notebooks, and it was free. I'm not switching. You remind me of the music producers that switch from DAW to DAW.

    • @batlin
      @batlin Год назад +1

      Not sure what's wrong with music producers switching from DAW to DAW. Each time you switch, you learn something new and generalise your understanding of the tools, rather than overly specialising on one specific tool.

    • @neopickaze
      @neopickaze 7 месяцев назад

      It's important to recognize that embracing advanced tools isn't about replacing fundamental skills or craftsmanship; it's about augmenting them. Tools like VS Code or WebStorm aren't merely shortcuts; they offer sophisticated environments that can enhance productivity, foster innovation, and allow for a focus on more complex problem-solving by handling routine tasks.
      The essence lies in "using the right tool for the job." Just as a master craftsman selects their tools based on the task at hand, choosing between simplicity and complexity in development tools should be guided by the project's demands, the task's specificity, and the desired outcomes. Advanced tools, when used judiciously, can free up cognitive resources for creative and strategic thinking, leading to higher quality work and more efficient problem-solving.

  • @SaschaRobitzki
    @SaschaRobitzki 22 дня назад

    JetBrains IDEs are good, but some things are just too rigid or missing. The bottom line is, I think VS Code is much more powerful.

  • @adityakumarsingh4971
    @adityakumarsingh4971 2 месяца назад

    vs code kinda slow... its not recommended for larger projects ..jetbrains like frekin' awsm...

  • @simonkraemer3725
    @simonkraemer3725 Год назад +5

    I went back and forth with VSCode and Webstorm and I guess I‘ll stick with Webstorm because of it‘s convenience. The code-completion is very good and I haven’t found a way to replicate the git experience of Webstorm in VSCode - even tools like gitlense can‘t beat it for me.
    What’s really annoying is the fact that it doesn’t support the German keyboard layout, you need to install an extension to map key to the English layout, which means that if I want to comment out code I need to press CMD+= because there’s no native / key. Every other Editor has native keybindings, that’s very lazy of Jetbrains. Also I don’t find the keyboard shortcuts not so intuitive like in vscode. Cmd+P did almost anything, jetbrains doesn‘t have that. And I miss some extensions. But otherwise good IDE

  • @Xiantez
    @Xiantez Месяц назад

    Eh not a fair comparison. VSCode is not an IDE, so of course it won't have all of the native / advanced features out of the box like Webstorm would.

  • @rhetttheehitman9771
    @rhetttheehitman9771 Год назад +13

    Yeah, I've been using JetBrains products for the last few years and haven't looked back.
    I really love the functionality it has right out the gate. However, when needed to customize individual-specific preferences, it's easy to do in the preferences window.
    Additionally, I love the fact I can go from Javascript to Go to Rust or whatever and back while having the exact same functionality, support and behavior across all languages. It feels like it's very simple to get right into the action on this platform.

  • @conradtaylor29
    @conradtaylor29 Год назад +3

    I'm definitely huge fan of Emacs/XEmacs and I never enjoyed the vim experience. Thus, Emacs/XEmacs one that battle for me because I can use many of the key-bindings within macOS out of the box. Next, I have used and paid for Jetbrains Rubymine in the past. However, I didn't like the load/startup times for Jetbrains IDE but the refactoring and git integration were absolutely great. Also, I didn't feel that Jetbrains were listening to their customers regarding new features. I have Jetbrains IDEA installed for my occasional Scala/Java development. Finally, these days I'm using VSCode for frontend/backend Elixir/Phoenix/Docker/K8s code development and Xcode for frontend Swift/SwiftUI development.

  • @YourAverageTechBro
    @YourAverageTechBro  Год назад +19

    sorry vs code i still love you it's not you it's me

    • @electricz3045
      @electricz3045 Год назад +2

      VsCodium is better

    • @DavidG-qm5vf
      @DavidG-qm5vf Год назад

      @@electricz3045 i think the unique difference betweet both editors is VSCodium doesn´t track my data. Is there something else ¿?

  • @kronos2266
    @kronos2266 3 месяца назад

    Hi, former VScode fanboy here… great video and great explanation on the differences, maybe you could’ve said what you switched to sooner.
    One tip though… yes JB IDEs vanilla are indeed quite ugly. However theres “material theme” plugin. Which makes the IDE the best looking IDE out there.
    It has free tier and paid, you are more than good with the free version but at 20€ per year the paid version is extremelly great value for money.

  • @MegaMech
    @MegaMech Год назад +2

    VS codes extension system is way too complicated. I spent weeks making simple tools that I could have made in an hour in atom. But atom doesn't have wsl support.

  • @katungiyassin9947
    @katungiyassin9947 2 месяца назад

    There's no way I am leaving Vs code for jetbrains, I am in transition from Vs code to neovim and helix

  • @acklackl
    @acklackl Год назад +5

    Your fundamental problem is that you didn't use your time effectively to learn and setup your tools for yourself.. and it's so much more than just ‘plugins’. You claim you care about shipping code fast yet I guarantee you someone who is willing to spend the time to learn, setup, and optimize their tools for their own workload and preferences end up more productive than you, regardless of any editor.

    • @BLAZINGGSWARM
      @BLAZINGGSWARM 11 месяцев назад

      I guess you don't use stove, you use your fine setup flintstones instead.

  • @samsonxia6390
    @samsonxia6390 7 месяцев назад +1

    You are mistaking TextEditor for IDE. When you choose TextEditor, you are expected to do all those customization yourself, so I don't really get why VS Code is blamed.

  • @lordender_kitty_official
    @lordender_kitty_official 6 месяцев назад

    i don't get why there's so much drama about code editors. just use a damn editor that you like. for me personally i dislike vim because i prefer more graphical editors and so i primarily use jetbrains products but im not gonna scream at anyone for using vim or vscode and tell them to use jetbrains stuff. and i may be slightly biased toward vscode because it's owned by microsoft and i'd rather use vscodium or fleet but i don't care if people use it. if it works for you it works.

  • @code-chimp
    @code-chimp 8 месяцев назад

    I used to be a Sublime die-hard, but I have fully drank the JetBrains koolaid. Besides WebStorm I use Rider a lot to write .NET code on my Linux or Mac laptops. The All Products Pack license was a good investment for me.

  • @milaro222
    @milaro222 11 месяцев назад

    VSCode allows you to create projects for any platform and language, instead of buying 15 different IDEs and endlessly customizing them, today you write code in Python, tomorrow in C for microcontrollers, the day after tomorrow you write an interface in Qt and write scripts in Bash, the use of special IDEs becomes in hell.

  • @yunus.ruzmetov
    @yunus.ruzmetov 8 месяцев назад

    If you're doing programming full-time (making money from programming), than I think it's fair to pay a subscription to JetBrains IDEs. But if you're doing programming for fun, it's not the best idea to pay for an IDE (vsCode will do just fine).

  • @brandyballoon
    @brandyballoon 8 месяцев назад

    The warnings are just drawing your attention to things that you may have overlooked or done unintentionally or didn't understand the implications of. Many warnings fall into the "Thanks for pointing that out, but I do understand how it works and it's what I intended to do" category. The IDE can't read your mind, so don't be offended when it tries to help. If someone is upset by the warnings second-guessing their code, it could be an indication that they're arrogant and probably not an easy person to work with.
    That said, I think that "throw of exception caught locally" warning is suggesting not to use exceptions to replace simple flow control statements. Exceptions are intended for unexpected conditions or conditions outside of the control of the method or function. It's a way of handling a situation that can't be done cleanly with the return value or post-conditions of the method or function. If you're catching an exception that was thrown within the same method, you can probably re-write it to not throw an exception at all.

  • @hansuu
    @hansuu Год назад +2

    Jetbrain Family : im good IDE
    VScode : im free

  • @wchen2340
    @wchen2340 10 месяцев назад

    My first impressionss on vscode. pop-up madness. updates, hints, and recommendations that turn out to be mandatory asking me literally if i "want this?" - without telling me anything. But allows me to answer "yes" and "never ask me again". i dunno man. its just rude. with a strong flavor of dark patterns. i will not tolerate this. asides that the whole integration of extensions and embedded toolchainss is ...unstable, anything but robust (volatility is a bastard) - not usable. a prime example of fail design. it maybe inappropriate to say but i feel like this thing is made by rookie frontend devs that completly misunderstand the domain they are targetting. But wait theres more ...

  • @yuriblanc8446
    @yuriblanc8446 Месяц назад

    Just disable quality analysis feature in the commit ui options

  • @tomashkhamlai7243
    @tomashkhamlai7243 Год назад

    New UI of JetBrains is ugly compared to the classic version. Actually that is the reason why I am watching this. When they drop the classic UI with some update I am going to look for some other IDE.

  • @RuslanKhamidoullin
    @RuslanKhamidoullin Год назад

    Man, do you have some problems with your throat? Sound of your voice is terrible. Actually it is a sound of barking motorcycle exhaust pipe. You better care after your throat and make it more attractive, because now it is really hard to bear it and approximately in 3 mins comes strong desire to leave your channel, despite you might provide interesting info....All the best. 🏍️💭

  • @mattwilliams1844
    @mattwilliams1844 Год назад

    Kinda in the same boat, in a way. I was a neovim user for 7 years or so, my lua config for it is like 3,000 lines of code.. I got tired of it. I tried VsCode for a month... Yea no thanks. I ended up going to CLion from Jetbrains as I am a C/C++/Rust embedded programmer (mainly C++). And CLion takes the toil out C++ and CMake. And the debugger and profiling tools have no setup, and is a nice wrapper around GDB. But lately I started using Doom Emacs, and wow.. Just wow, I feel as though I am complete. Buffer based editing is so good. Still use CLion for debugging though.

  • @jaydee8553
    @jaydee8553 Год назад

    Nope. Can't beat Microsoft on this one. Plus you know there is visual studio express. And if you are going to pay for it get visual studio . I mean you are comparing a free ide vs one you are paying for if I'm correct. Compare the diagnostic tools on VS

  • @ahmedifhaam7266
    @ahmedifhaam7266 Год назад

    I know this is probably annoying to hear, but every single thing shown regarding web storm in this video can be set in vscode with less than 12 extensions and also look muuuch prettier and more productive in my opinion, setup in less than 30 mins. I feel like, there is no objectivity to be talked about here, it is only and only preference. Depending on the level of developer you are, a begginer, coding for a while, type of developer etc, its just preference.

  • @dmwasielewski
    @dmwasielewski Год назад

    Maybe because VS Code is an editor and WS is an IDE. The first one is free, but the second one is paid, so comparing them directly doesn't make much sense. They are not the same tool for developers, so your review isn't being honest.

  • @JustPlainRob
    @JustPlainRob Год назад

    Nice ad, bro. Congrats on the massive downgrade.
    A web-based editor or IDE will *never* be as good as a standalone application. The same is true for web-based drawing or CAD software too. It will *never* be better to need a network connection to use a company's remote infrastructure to accomplish a task instead of just opening a local application.

  • @ignaciosanmartin2143
    @ignaciosanmartin2143 6 месяцев назад

    When you realize that you must have to work with professional tools and not the fancy ones that everyone uses, that’s when your career grows:)

  • @laughingvampire7555
    @laughingvampire7555 Год назад

    vim/neovim/vscode/intellij, doesn't matter, it will always be inferior to emacs because emacs is a programming system with simple 2d text/graphics display as a front UI

  • @GBUKMilo
    @GBUKMilo 10 месяцев назад +1

    The problem is... You need buy PhpStorm for PHP, WebStorm for JS , PyCharm for Python, so now you into $700+ bucks a year, compare zero for VScode and develop in all three. Go figure...

  • @dbred67
    @dbred67 7 месяцев назад

    Feels like Jetbrains are constantly trying to catch up to VSCode. Not sure they ever will

  • @deadMoney2k12
    @deadMoney2k12 Год назад

    I'm sorry. My brain locked up at the concept of catching a thrown error in the same code block. throwing errors serves to alert other parts of the code of a particular occurrence of a condition. catching it in the same block reduces it to a goto statement with flair, imo.
    i've had a msdn license for ~35 years now so vs4lyfe yo.

  • @bukki007
    @bukki007 11 месяцев назад

    I just want a good editor that allows you to run code, autocompletes stuff, and DOES'NT DRAIN BATTERY

  • @laughingvampire7555
    @laughingvampire7555 Год назад

    your problem with the "extending" of vim and vscode is not vim or vscode, is your lack of focus and discipline, now you are compensating. I suggest you to find a middle ground.