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  • Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2024

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  • @CTSSTC
    @CTSSTC 9 месяцев назад +4166

    Time to upgrade my monitor to utilize that sweet 120 FPS coding 😂.

    • @Microphunktv-jb3kj
      @Microphunktv-jb3kj 9 месяцев назад +68

      lmao.. human eye cant even differentiate past 72hz

    • @CTSSTC
      @CTSSTC 9 месяцев назад +200

      @@Microphunktv-jb3kj but it makes my smooth brain happy 🤤 haha

    • @chihchang1139
      @chihchang1139 9 месяцев назад +40

      @@Microphunktv-jb3kj it's useful for vr devices, but 120 fps is barely enough. It's also kinda stupid to have only 120fps on a code editor.

    • @thetower8553
      @thetower8553 9 месяцев назад +49

      @@Microphunktv-jb3kj The human eye can't see any hope with AI around.

    • @GetPsyched6
      @GetPsyched6 9 месяцев назад +164

      ​@@Microphunktv-jb3kjI'm pretty sure that's bs

  • @abdDev_
    @abdDev_ 9 месяцев назад +1120

    Can't be better than MS Word

    • @EnriqueDominguezProfile
      @EnriqueDominguezProfile 9 месяцев назад +69

      I see no flaws in your statement.

    • @turolretar
      @turolretar 9 месяцев назад +176

      It’s the only IDE where I can control the colour and size of each letter, which means it’s objectively the best. It’s also the only editor to have integration with Excel - coincidentally the best database management system.

    • @vaisakh_km
      @vaisakh_km 9 месяцев назад +26

      There is powerpoint which is far more better than MS Word.. but i am sticking with sticky notes
      edit: i stand corrected, MS word is superior to powerpoint

    • @enkvadrat_
      @enkvadrat_ 9 месяцев назад

      @@turolretar nah use libreoffice

    • @svag_g
      @svag_g 9 месяцев назад +21

      Notepad Clear

  • @langobardo
    @langobardo 9 месяцев назад +493

    The "we are here" at 1:13 Is somewhere near Fortaleza Canyon in Cambará do Sul southern Brazil for anyone wondering.

    • @bobi7310
      @bobi7310 9 месяцев назад +21

      thank you was going crazy abt that

    • @Deffinnition
      @Deffinnition 9 месяцев назад +8

      Indeed, I recognized it immediately after seeing it!

    • @Japan45643
      @Japan45643 9 месяцев назад +5

      Brazil ❤🇧🇷

    • @berteabdel7722
      @berteabdel7722 9 месяцев назад +12

      You're gonna attract all the smooth brain Brazilians trying to speak Portuguese in the comments.

    • @ShizoMoses
      @ShizoMoses 9 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks, man, genuinely was.

  • @AegirAexx
    @AegirAexx 9 месяцев назад +322

    You had me until "A Mac only editor..." and sadly then the video was over. Well played sir.

    • @genghischan69
      @genghischan69 8 месяцев назад +28

      Who even does real coding on Windows? Linux yes, but windows.. only for game development, because NVidia made it so that there's no other choice there.

    • @AegirAexx
      @AegirAexx 8 месяцев назад

      @@genghischan69 One of the things I do in my day job is maintaining and developing a .NET Framework application and sadly that is rather difficult to do on other than a Windows machine. Getting everything to function with Mono is just a waste of time like ricing an Arch distro with a suckless window manger.
      Real coding? Well I get paid real money writing real code so by definition I guess it's real?

    • @MinecraftMasterNo1
      @MinecraftMasterNo1 8 месяцев назад +26

      @@genghischan69 You can run Linux on Windows now. No point in using only Linux unless you really just hate Windows.

    • @kyurion_
      @kyurion_ 8 месяцев назад +34

      ​@genghischan69 does every job I've ever had count as "real" coding?

    • @gadgetboyplaysmc
      @gadgetboyplaysmc 8 месяцев назад

      Wait really? I bought a Mac and was planning to do game dev at some point.@@genghischan69

  • @richardbennett4365
    @richardbennett4365 9 месяцев назад +69

    Atom via GitHub was also acquired by Microsoft when it purchased GitHub in 2018, six years ago. And, not surprisingly, Microsoft after first stating Atom development would continue, and it did, until it was halted by Microsoft in June 2022.

    • @ismbks
      @ismbks 8 месяцев назад +3

      biggest pikachu face of my life

    • @raphieexists9309
      @raphieexists9309 8 месяцев назад +4

      We need to sunrise Atom.

  • @aleksandarstevanovic5854
    @aleksandarstevanovic5854 9 месяцев назад +1393

    YEEESSSSS!!! editor in 120 fps! exactly what i was missing all these years

    • @rankarat
      @rankarat 9 месяцев назад +44

      Lol, people trying to make anything an advantage.

    • @GetPsyched6
      @GetPsyched6 9 месяцев назад

      ​​@@Faizan29353most time coding is spent staring at the screen and then at stackoverflow. 1wpm increase is completely useless

    • @boiimcfacto2364
      @boiimcfacto2364 9 месяцев назад +194

      @@Faizan29353 Bro what exactly are you coding that WPM is a factor 💀 programming is limited by your intellectual capacity to think of solutions to problems, not by the number of functions you can write in a minute lol.

    • @iWillAvert
      @iWillAvert 9 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@boiimcfacto2364Sure, but take two equally intelligent developers, and the one who can type faster will be more productive.
      I will level with you though that in the real world, it may not actually make a huge difference since you're not banging out application after application.

    • @querela92
      @querela92 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@boiimcfacto2364genetic algorithms ;-)
      I write functions without thinking as fast as I can and then test which of those gets me the nearest solution. Then I need to really quickly scroll through all my code and review which worked best, to start write many more functions.
      I need FPS...

  • @kasper369
    @kasper369 9 месяцев назад +942

    Now the natural next step is to create another text editor in Zig

    • @cherubin7th
      @cherubin7th 9 месяцев назад +78

      Cool a code editor that segfaults.

    • @the_null_man
      @the_null_man 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@cherubin7th brother, we used to code in C and C++ for years already, and I mean you can segfault with Rust, too

    • @ShawnThuris
      @ShawnThuris 9 месяцев назад +79

      Zed would have been a perfect name for it...

    • @Leo0718
      @Leo0718 9 месяцев назад +147

      …and call it Rest. To keep the balance.

    • @darkenlightmage
      @darkenlightmage 9 месяцев назад +63

      @@cherubin7th Yes, because every single program written in C will segfault, and it's phisically impossible for a rust program to panic and commit seppuku.

  • @musthavechannel5262
    @musthavechannel5262 9 месяцев назад +506

    launches only on mac
    "Zed's dead baby"

    • @azufendusgarendum6583
      @azufendusgarendum6583 9 месяцев назад +6

      It runs on Linux

    • @azufendusgarendum6583
      @azufendusgarendum6583 9 месяцев назад +3

      It also works on Linux btw

    • @BigOrangeMan
      @BigOrangeMan 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@azufendusgarendum6583with only 4% > desktop market share who cares

    • @freedom4651
      @freedom4651 9 месяцев назад

      @@azufendusgarendum6583 It also unstable as fudge in linux!

    • @DevilShooter_
      @DevilShooter_ 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@azufendusgarendum6583how to run on Linux?

  • @dilcon
    @dilcon 9 месяцев назад +117

    Extensions will probably be based on wasm to allow maximum range of languages to be written in and not only rust. Remember them talking about it in some podcast

    • @Luxalpa
      @Luxalpa 9 месяцев назад +2

      Sounds nice. I got really disappointed in Helix when they announced they'd use Scheme as plugin language instead of Wasm.

    • @WiecejNoxiego
      @WiecejNoxiego 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Luxalpa they have good reasons for it and if I'm not mistaken the way they design plugins allows for multiple plugin backends.

    • @themax2go
      @themax2go 8 месяцев назад

      now that(!) would be a huge step forward

    • @Rudxain
      @Rudxain 8 месяцев назад

      Why not LLVM IR?

  • @livedreamsg
    @livedreamsg 9 месяцев назад +10

    I've been using it as my main code editor for a little over a week now. It's pretty good. Still missing some pretty critical things for me, though, like seeing what exactly I've changed (compared to the latest commit).

  • @Noritoshi-r8m
    @Noritoshi-r8m 9 месяцев назад +513

    It's scary how much dev ecosystem MS owns. Don't forget your backend in C#!

    • @DemPilafian
      @DemPilafian 9 месяцев назад +90

      Owns? Technically that's true, but they got there unscrupulously by acquiring and eliminating. I would have *NEVER* put my many open source projects on GitHub if it was Microsoft, yet here we are. I would have *NEVER* put my professional profile on LinkedIn if it was Microsoft, yet here we are. I would have *NEVER* used a code editor from Microsoft, but they killed Atom.

    • @vectoralphaSec
      @vectoralphaSec 9 месяцев назад +15

      Microsoft owns EVERYTHING. @@DemPilafian

    • @EitanGelfgat
      @EitanGelfgat 9 месяцев назад +11

      They own a lot of the windows dev ecosystem, and they own windows too

    • @neonmidnight6264
      @neonmidnight6264 9 месяцев назад +28

      Funnily enough, .NET tends to be a more independent part, at least the "core" of it like language itself, runtime, sdk and etc. There was an issue some time ago for some abstractions that the Azure team wanted and the runtime team basically said "you wot m8" because it had no place being in runtime.

    • @hypnocrabb
      @hypnocrabb 9 месяцев назад

      @@DemPilafian Holy fuck that's eye opening. Luckily I use GitLab instead of GitHub, at least. I also use Linux for private and work computation.
      Looks like I'll be deleting Linkedin.

  • @jakethewoz
    @jakethewoz 9 месяцев назад +242

    When I used Atom, it made Visual Studio seem fast. Hard to believe the same people made a fast editor

    • @vezquex
      @vezquex 9 месяцев назад +33

      Atom was actually way faster at the time than anyone thought JS could be.

    • @SuperQuwertz
      @SuperQuwertz 9 месяцев назад +26

      They created Electron just for Atom. Now they leveled up and created their own GPU rendered framework in Rust. Pretty cool stuff

    • @wombat7961
      @wombat7961 8 месяцев назад

      Atom destroyed my macbook pro - i had to upgrade every part. Then i realized youtube was also destroying my mbp.

    • @JohnHenryLiberty23
      @JohnHenryLiberty23 8 месяцев назад +5

      @jakethewoz - you're a developer and you are surprised at a team of engineers that built something found ways to do it better? lol

  • @the_agent_z
    @the_agent_z 9 месяцев назад +851

    Zed is pretty great. The performance is way faster than vscode with almost instant diagnostics. Though it lacks features such as intuitive config menus, Extensions/Plugins support, Custom themes, Etc. But it does have support for most languages out of the box.

    • @OfficialLegend
      @OfficialLegend 9 месяцев назад +66

      The features it lacks it makes up in the speed

    • @codewhiz2.0
      @codewhiz2.0 9 месяцев назад +3

      I have heard people talking how great Zed is I’m gonna try it out

    • @masmeert
      @masmeert 9 месяцев назад +5

      It does have custom themes since a little while

    • @ColorblindMonk
      @ColorblindMonk 9 месяцев назад +111

      @@OfficialLegend End of the day, though, features matter more than speed. Zed has a long road ahead before you can call it a vscode killer.

    • @samilqs
      @samilqs 9 месяцев назад +58

      zed is faster precisely because it does not have any of those dependencies that you mentioned, such as the ability to add plugins or communication with github

  • @michealkinney6205
    @michealkinney6205 4 месяца назад +3

    A lot has changed in just a few months. They now have Linux and Extension support. Pretty cool to see the progress!

  • @AlexisDessard
    @AlexisDessard 9 месяцев назад +21

    This video was supposed to make me migrate to Zed but it actually made me discover Cursor and switch instantly from VSC, thanks for helping me think less and earn more in less time 👌

    • @GamingVlogBoxStudios
      @GamingVlogBoxStudios 8 месяцев назад +7

      I saw Cursor once and all the AI features needed more payment and it wasn't open source (I have an unhealthy obsession with opensourced code).
      Once I find a code editor like Cursor with free AI and open source with a VSCode styled UI I'll definitely switch.

    • @tschorsch
      @tschorsch 8 месяцев назад +5

      They basically took open source software and made it closed source. They should have at least had an open source base with closed pieces. I hate all of the lock-in.

    • @airampg5031
      @airampg5031 8 месяцев назад +1

      yikes

  • @scben
    @scben 9 месяцев назад +421

    Another one of those neat looking code editors that will soon be forgotten

    • @lasue7244
      @lasue7244 9 месяцев назад +61

      Yup, unless any editor comes with most popular extensions at launch and get viral immediately. Otherwise it will die before it reaches to vscode competitor status

    • @Hector-bj3ls
      @Hector-bj3ls 9 месяцев назад

      @@lasue7244 I've been using it as my main editor for a while now. It's pretty good. It's still early days, but it's already better than vscode for 99% of tasks.

    • @transatlant1c
      @transatlant1c 9 месяцев назад

      Agreed, so just use sublime. It’s basically the same speed, has been around forever and does everything this one does. Just claim the license fee as a work expense or tax expense and move on

    • @randomcontrol
      @randomcontrol 9 месяцев назад +19

      Atom will never be forgotten 😢

    • @Hector-bj3ls
      @Hector-bj3ls 9 месяцев назад +8

      @@randomcontrol Zed is by the same people. Or so it says on their website.

  • @ravinlimbu
    @ravinlimbu 9 месяцев назад +523

    The performance and minimal design got me hooked. Would've definitely tried it if it was on windows.

    • @azufendusgarendum6583
      @azufendusgarendum6583 9 месяцев назад +21

      It runs on Linux fwiw

    • @FriskGamer1
      @FriskGamer1 9 месяцев назад +54

      Windows 💀

    • @_tr11
      @_tr11 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@azufendusgarendum6583 ?

    • @XDarkGreyX
      @XDarkGreyX 9 месяцев назад +21

      Only for the rich and wannabe-rich broke folks

    • @maukku1572
      @maukku1572 9 месяцев назад +49

      @@FriskGamer1 and what's wrong with that?

  • @ransfordarthur4418
    @ransfordarthur4418 9 месяцев назад +49

    been looking for a proper non-electon based Vscode contender for a while now
    loving Zed so far

    • @mayatrash
      @mayatrash 9 месяцев назад

      Does it have Julia or Jupyter support?

  • @Indently
    @Indently 9 месяцев назад +2

    I've always wanted to code at 3wpm at 120fps!

  • @guest1754
    @guest1754 9 месяцев назад +23

    The memes per second ratio on videos like these is outstanding.

  • @rankarat
    @rankarat 9 месяцев назад +13

    How often do you start up your editor? The benefits are overlooked, while the drawbacks are significant.

  • @abdDev_
    @abdDev_ 9 месяцев назад +150

    Got me at the mac only part

    • @azufendusgarendum6583
      @azufendusgarendum6583 9 месяцев назад +1

      It also runs on Linux

    • @zeroespero
      @zeroespero 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@azufendusgarendum6583not really yet

    • @skun406
      @skun406 9 месяцев назад +40

      @@azufendusgarendum6583No it does not, why are you spamming this lie in the comment secion?

    • @reillocb
      @reillocb 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@skun406 Maybe it's a bot...

    • @coldestbeer
      @coldestbeer 9 месяцев назад +12

      ​@@skun406 because misinformation is the only way we have to thwart AI. It is YOUR responsibility to lie & leave as much of dummy digitsl noise as possible for the sake of humanity. Glory to mankind.

  • @maxkinli
    @maxkinli 9 месяцев назад +59

    I typed z 10 times.. it saved me 39ms of my life

  • @landlubbber
    @landlubbber 9 месяцев назад +24

    Unsurprising that none of the performance metrics compare to Vim or Neovim since any other editor would get smoked by either of them

  • @belalmuflih5116
    @belalmuflih5116 8 месяцев назад +2

    You had me on "Hi mom", sorry for your loss but am happy you haven't forgot her. still the best easter eggs out there

  • @JohnneyleeRollins
    @JohnneyleeRollins 9 месяцев назад +343

    But can it run vimscript?

    • @EnriqueDominguezProfile
      @EnriqueDominguezProfile 9 месяцев назад +49

      Vimscript is passé, I went full LUA this year.

    • @azufendusgarendum6583
      @azufendusgarendum6583 9 месяцев назад +10

      Unfortunately nah 😔 But the Vim support is nice and keeps getting better, they're serious about it

    • @vaisakh_km
      @vaisakh_km 9 месяцев назад +11

      Vimscript this best language, after which comes microsoft VBA

    • @NovaH00
      @NovaH00 9 месяцев назад +1

      I forgor vimscipt existed for a sec and thought it was a new counterpart for js😂

    • @scben
      @scben 9 месяцев назад +1

      But can it embed neovim?

  • @FrankHale
    @FrankHale 9 месяцев назад +8

    This is not the only video that meme's "VS Code Killer" but until they support Windows and Linux it definitely will never be a VS Code killer. I think a lot of people just quit looking when they hear it's Mac only. Good thing you mentioned it at the end, that was a 10x move on your part!!!

  • @4RILDIGITAL
    @4RILDIGITAL 9 месяцев назад +67

    Interesting take on the evolution of text editors and the role of AI. Zed presents a lot of potential. However, I agree with the limitations you pointed out such as its availability only on Mac OS, and the lack of extensibility.

    • @IllllIIllllI
      @IllllIIllllI 9 месяцев назад +15

      I'm 100% sure this comment was made by chatGPT

    • @ck-dl4to
      @ck-dl4to 9 месяцев назад

      It gives out a reason you should buy a Mac. We don't care about that

  • @f0kes32
    @f0kes32 9 месяцев назад +9

    Damn, i watched the full video only to know there's no extensions and mac only. Well played, fireship!

    • @the_mellobean
      @the_mellobean 4 месяца назад +1

      It's available for Linux now

  • @matakos22
    @matakos22 8 месяцев назад +13

    Feels like you shouldn't have delayed the "Mac only editor" part until 3:50

    • @sherlockmaverick
      @sherlockmaverick 8 месяцев назад

      Not anymore! You can compile Linux and Windows versions yourself!

  • @VictorGamerLOL
    @VictorGamerLOL 9 месяцев назад +154

    Dev tools being made for MacOS first is like building a railway network on the moon first.

    • @azufendusgarendum6583
      @azufendusgarendum6583 9 месяцев назад +5

      It also runs on Linux

    • @voxelfusion9894
      @voxelfusion9894 9 месяцев назад +56

      Ikr? Either target what most devs use, Linux, or what most people in general use, Windows. Apple is just neither.

    • @happymeerkat5536
      @happymeerkat5536 9 месяцев назад

      @@voxelfusion9894 a lot of developers use macOS, definitely more than windows and comparable to linux

    • @xelspeth
      @xelspeth 9 месяцев назад

      @@voxelfusion9894 Mac has a very large developer user base actually.
      According to a survery asking 26000 software developers acoss 187 different countries, in 2022 windows had 61% usage, linux 45% usage and mac had 46% usage (source: statista, id: 869211)

    • @BogdanSerban
      @BogdanSerban 9 месяцев назад

      @@azufendusgarendum6583 no it doesn't

  • @getdonek
    @getdonek 9 месяцев назад +37

    They released Extension support right after you published this, ZED IDE is 🔥

    • @MrA6060
      @MrA6060 8 месяцев назад +3

      text editor not IDE 🤡

    • @getdonek
      @getdonek 8 месяцев назад

      Soon to be IDE
      @@MrA6060

    • @tschorsch
      @tschorsch 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@MrA6060 They're not that much different anymore.

    • @jadizadi7600
      @jadizadi7600 7 месяцев назад

      @@MrA6060
      there is no diffrence between IDE and text editor now only if you're talking about Windows Notepad as text editor

    • @snowe..
      @snowe.. 5 месяцев назад

      @@jadizadi7600there most definitely is. Even the devs of VS code call it a code editor and not an IDE, because it isn’t.

  • @ReflexiaVoid
    @ReflexiaVoid 9 месяцев назад +39

    The fact that it's only available for mac outweighs all of its advantages.
    Hopefully, I'll remember to check it out once it becomes available for the platforms I use.

    • @assarlannerborn9342
      @assarlannerborn9342 8 месяцев назад +8

      Bro saved the most important detail for last💀

    • @squeed77
      @squeed77 7 месяцев назад

      you can compile it for the platforms you use

  • @quintennn
    @quintennn 9 месяцев назад +2

    I've tried it and it works really well.
    It's indeed very minimal.
    One of the things I really liked was the "onboarding" you get to pick a theme, setup a few things but most importantly choose keyboard shortcuts. You can do intelliJ, vscode and other shortcuts. So you'll feel right at home using the same shortcuts.
    Missing features for me:
    Git, seeing your git changes visually, a diff, staging unstaging etc the basic like vscode had.
    Seeing your current branc name
    Stuff like git blame
    file icon (there are file icons atm but they are again super minimal an a bit too minimal for me, I want some more color so I can easily see what kind of file it is.)
    If they would add at least the above features, I will probably switch from vscode.

  • @x3voo
    @x3voo 9 месяцев назад +6

    if it can view very large text files and has a hex editor, im sold

    • @PaulSpades
      @PaulSpades 9 месяцев назад +13

      A HEX editor? Look at this guy, demanding a real, useful, text editor feature from a text editor. Go to bed, Grandpa!
      The children want 20 icon packs for the sidebar and microsoft ads.

    • @mileusna
      @mileusna 9 месяцев назад +3

      It can’t. I have treid to open 500K or 2M text files and no luck. They still got lots of work to do.

  • @LAKD
    @LAKD 9 месяцев назад +14

    it has the potential to be big. But there are too many bugs atm for me to actually replace my main editor

    • @andrefig822
      @andrefig822 8 месяцев назад

      YES! I tried to use it, but it's annoying as hell with -- obtrusive infinite alert windows -- with "ESLINT error" and open output that does nothing and -- ESC does not close alert --, it's an inexcusable behavior for a production ready app for targeted to tech-savvy in 2024! I mean, it's fast, not laggy as VSC, some ready preset ready to go.

  • @dekaaizer2550
    @dekaaizer2550 9 месяцев назад +99

    So when will the Helix-editor video dropping? Maybe not as loud of a fan base but a steady growing one. 28k github stars on the repo already.

    • @tears_falling
      @tears_falling 9 месяцев назад +18

      +1 for helix

    • @FlanPoirot
      @FlanPoirot 9 месяцев назад +10

      helix is my goto lately, have been using it non stop for the last 2 months and still haven't found a reason to go back to my fully configured nvim setup, it's just that comfy, I don't miss anything (besides DAP but that's not THAT big of a deal tbh)

    • @filiprechtorik4938
      @filiprechtorik4938 9 месяцев назад +2

      +10000 for helix

    • @theycallmesloth
      @theycallmesloth 9 месяцев назад +6

      Been over 8 months since I've started using it. Never looked back.

    • @ShawnThuris
      @ShawnThuris 9 месяцев назад

      I was on nvim for a couple of years until I discovered Helix -- now I've installed it on all my ssh machines (even on ARM).

  • @joris7571
    @joris7571 9 месяцев назад +10

    "Nothing lasts forever"
    Contemplate my perfect nvim setup

    • @GreyDeathVaccine
      @GreyDeathVaccine 8 месяцев назад

      Emacs is still here, 47 years and still kicking ass 🙂

    • @pointyorb
      @pointyorb 24 дня назад

      Lol same

  • @vim55k
    @vim55k 8 месяцев назад +2

    Zed is fast and pretty workable with typescript!
    Now I can dive in without waiting 10s or refusing in VScode.
    Our repo is large and I have to restart vscode frequently to just make it work

  • @PianoArts2th-yo3uf
    @PianoArts2th-yo3uf 2 месяца назад +1

    Zed is now available for linux too and it rly gets me. It looks really cool and it feels a whole lot more performant than VScode.

  • @aproxy7263
    @aproxy7263 9 месяцев назад +7

    By the time its available on Linux and Windows, VS Code will already have the main features of Zed.

    • @garretmh
      @garretmh 9 месяцев назад +4

      The only feature Zed has now that VS Code doesn’t is not running on Electron so I’m not so sure.

    • @MI08SK
      @MI08SK 8 месяцев назад +4

      You can't make an electron app faster than a propper native one

    • @blocksource4192
      @blocksource4192 8 месяцев назад

      @@MI08SK this is why svelte somehow wrote javascript code that's faster than native javascript functions. But I get what you mean

  • @urlhnd
    @urlhnd 9 месяцев назад +7

    3:55 Did you just sneak a Discord notification sound in there?

  • @eparizzi
    @eparizzi 9 месяцев назад +103

    As a +15 year software engineer myself, I don't understand all this focus on speed. If your work productivity depends on a few milliseconds of difference in inserting characters into your editor, I really wouldn't want to be you. Good software devs are not measured by their code writing speed.

    • @hanniffydinn6019
      @hanniffydinn6019 8 месяцев назад +5

      Are you deaf? It needs the speed for AI integration! 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

    • @MatthewLeeCode
      @MatthewLeeCode 4 месяца назад +6

      Not always about productivity. I'd argue a responsive application is nice from a developer experience point of view

    • @enigmacanine
      @enigmacanine 4 месяца назад +4

      Developer experience.

    • @Wi8had0w
      @Wi8had0w 3 месяца назад +1

      Ur and body has evolved to notice lags of even 10s of ms .. sound mapping for example .. and snappier apps always aids thought flow

    • @Quetalocatl
      @Quetalocatl 3 месяца назад +4

      Not everyone has a fast computer for coding and vs code sometimes hangs on slow machines

  • @wiintend07
    @wiintend07 9 месяцев назад +1

    Been using Zed since it was a closed beta, I love how snappy it is. Full featured without the bloat, waiting for the Windows build!

  • @taureon_
    @taureon_ 9 месяцев назад +4

    i like how in the performance metrics, sublime text is also a very close 2nd or even first
    makes me happy about using it :^)

    • @mileusna
      @mileusna 9 месяцев назад +2

      Currently Sublime is way more superior over Zed since it is stable product, but looks like Zed got some hype. Lets see what will happen.

    • @drygordspellweaver8761
      @drygordspellweaver8761 9 месяцев назад +1

      I am extremely happy with Sublime text

  • @ir8293
    @ir8293 9 месяцев назад +16

    Meanwhile the latest Sublime Text has been released today (Dev build) and it’s running circles around Zed. Feature and speed wise.

    • @Ratchetrene
      @Ratchetrene 7 месяцев назад +1

      I mean how long has sublime been around? tf kinda comparison is that lmao

  • @mekafinchi
    @mekafinchi 9 месяцев назад +7

    notepad++ remains my main editor, I've never really needed more

  • @meltygear5955
    @meltygear5955 9 месяцев назад +8

    I like how the benchmarks omit Neovim

    • @ristomatti
      @ristomatti 9 месяцев назад +3

      ...and Helix.

    • @natnial1
      @natnial1 9 месяцев назад

      @@silaspy-ff2neblazingly fast

    • @julienlecoq3539
      @julienlecoq3539 9 месяцев назад

      @@silaspy-ff2nedoes it takes into account the startup time of your terminal? I doubt, and if it does not, it’s not really fair saying it takes 35ms

    • @radiantveggies9348
      @radiantveggies9348 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@julienlecoq3539wrong

  • @jarrodhroberson
    @jarrodhroberson 9 месяцев назад +4

    Sublime Text still does more than what i need for a text editor. For actual coding Jetbrains can not be beat.

    • @tno2007
      @tno2007 9 месяцев назад

      JB and all their IDE products is just memory hogs.

    • @rhone733
      @rhone733 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@tno2007 Can't argue with that assessment. When I switch to linux only development I wanted something that felt similar to VS 2008. CLion fit the bill. I'll keep using it until I get around to writing my own editor.

  • @atmadeeparya2454
    @atmadeeparya2454 5 месяцев назад

    The reference to "zed" was so apt. I just love this guy.

  • @GuidedBreathing
    @GuidedBreathing 9 месяцев назад +3

    3:28 I can make a wrapper for VS Code extensions for this one. Anyone interested? I will do a push-up for every like too. I can also fix the windows / Linux version.

  • @mok6034
    @mok6034 9 месяцев назад +9

    "Only for mac" sad

    • @napuzu
      @napuzu 4 месяца назад

      only for mac, yet

    • @Shiba2137-ot7ze
      @Shiba2137-ot7ze 4 месяца назад

      You can compile it yourself, it took me 10 mins on windows

    • @youtube.user.1234
      @youtube.user.1234 2 месяца назад

      Linux support has arrived btw

  • @kaan5780
    @kaan5780 9 месяцев назад +621

    Zed sucks. Sorry, but editors without multi platform support by default just sucks. Late support = less unified experience. I don't think their future Linux and Windows builds will have same features and performance as macOS. Also without extensibility you cannot gain market share from your biggest competitor, VSCode. They just focused on some second order stuff but not actual features. I don't think the plugin support will be rich as VS Code unless they don't have multi platform support.
    Devs thougth their product will be popular with macOS only support. Congrats you created another "VS Code killer" that will be forgotten with in couple months.

    • @pandres95
      @pandres95 9 месяцев назад +93

      Just a friendly reminder that virtually every single modern editor began working on macOS only.
      And yes! This includes your so much beloved VSCode.

    • @BGraves
      @BGraves 9 месяцев назад +20

      This video is an ad. It does the same thing as Cursor

    • @Civilization1
      @Civilization1 9 месяцев назад +151

      ​@@pandres95 Ahh yes the Microsoft product originally only ran on its competitors OS. Totally believable

    • @BGraves
      @BGraves 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@pandres95citr your source

    • @teaser6089
      @teaser6089 9 месяцев назад +36

      They basically made a Code editor with AI features but forgot about all the fucking features that made VS code as popular as it is.
      This is a problem almost all of these AI bro startups have, they check all the buzzword checkboxes but forget about the actual product...

  • @quintencabo
    @quintencabo 9 месяцев назад +2

    I hope they also have a feature where you can connect it to your own llm

  • @fchild
    @fchild 9 месяцев назад +3

    “Not extensible” should be the first statement in this video and probably the last.

    • @livedreamsg
      @livedreamsg 9 месяцев назад

      They released extensions yesterday.

  • @gadget00
    @gadget00 9 месяцев назад +3

    This is an “open source” editor that ONLY launched in MacOS and NOT Linux??
    The End is Near, indeed; wow

  • @soiree7833
    @soiree7833 9 месяцев назад +3

    still gonna use emacs

    • @ethanknifsend9775
      @ethanknifsend9775 6 месяцев назад

      I think I’m gonna check out Adobe Dreamweaver

  • @snarkyboojum
    @snarkyboojum 4 месяца назад

    I compiled it for my Windows 11 machine today and it works beautifully!

  • @saccobello6516
    @saccobello6516 9 месяцев назад

    With that image of the canyon in southern Brazil, you made me emotional for various reasons.

  • @AseshShrestha
    @AseshShrestha 7 месяцев назад

    I am in love with this IDE. It's so fast and lightweight.

  • @omarsh82
    @omarsh82 9 месяцев назад +1

    This is old news it was out on Mac os last year I thought you were gonna make a video about Z being released on windows or lyrics that's 4 minutes of my life I'm never getting back thank you sir.

  • @attilao
    @attilao 9 месяцев назад +1

    This video should have started by listing the supported platforms.

  • @motorparadise
    @motorparadise 3 месяца назад

    2:30 That team collab in realtime was actually my idea but I never got to work on it myself, so they did it instead. 😭

  • @Serizon_
    @Serizon_ 9 месяцев назад

    when fireship uploads , i feel happy , i am watching his previous videos for getting knowledge

  • @FahimAhmed-tb8wu
    @FahimAhmed-tb8wu 2 месяца назад

    It's currently on Arch (AUR) & on flatpak
    And also can be built from source on other distros

  • @alidp86
    @alidp86 9 месяцев назад +2

    Nice Pulp Fiction reference there 👍 0:22

  • @steve-adams
    @steve-adams 9 месяцев назад

    I legitimately like Zed.
    I recently found the Arc browser and almost accidentally switched to it. After years of using Safari (mostly for energy efficiency on my laptop), jumping into Arc felt very natural. I think it took maybe an hour of test driving to feel confident making a switch. I never looked back.
    Zed was exactly the same. Everything is clean, trim, snappy, and mostly does exactly what I need without fluff. I can't wait to see where it goes. I'd like to make a full switch, but the lack of extensions is preventing it so far. We'll get there, though.

  • @Pocketkid2
    @Pocketkid2 9 месяцев назад +1

    My roommate loves Zed, but he uses Mac only, I use all three (Mac, Windows, and Linux) interchangeably and so I am going to continue to use VS code until Zed comes out on those platforms

  • @zstrizzel
    @zstrizzel 9 месяцев назад +1

    "it's not a motorcycle baby, it's a chopper"

  • @johnbrooks7350
    @johnbrooks7350 9 месяцев назад

    I learned on Atom and loved teletype for working on school projects together.

  • @michaelsills8038
    @michaelsills8038 9 месяцев назад +2

    Well damn, no extensions and no linux, I was so happy for a second :(

    • @tschorsch
      @tschorsch 8 месяцев назад +1

      It apparently works in Linux if you're willing to build it yourself.

  • @thatpersonwithamlpiconwhos2861
    @thatpersonwithamlpiconwhos2861 9 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome, this IDE looks cool, ill check it out
    Mac only💀

  • @Filaxsan
    @Filaxsan 8 месяцев назад

    Keep it crazy, Jeff, keep it crazy. All the best, brother 💪

  • @mortencarlsson2719
    @mortencarlsson2719 9 месяцев назад

    AI to programming, is like the co-pilot in commercial aviation. You still need the pilots there!

  • @TheNitramlxl
    @TheNitramlxl 9 месяцев назад +4

    It's like sublime text with a pre-installed AI package, running only on macos and without package control - am I missing something?

  • @maciejbratosiewicz7453
    @maciejbratosiewicz7453 9 месяцев назад

    Just tried it, it's amazing 10/10. Great design and finally I don't have 10k buttons and functions I don't need nor understand like in VS code.

  • @shr4pnel
    @shr4pnel 8 месяцев назад

    jetbrains webstorm will forever be my special angel.

  • @Muzzino
    @Muzzino 9 месяцев назад

    It's fantastically fast but I still have to keep VScode and JetBrains on standby for specific plugins and refactoring features.
    Zed has been my primary editor for a couple weeks now and I don't want to go back to the slugs

  • @Alexandermeister
    @Alexandermeister 5 месяцев назад

    For me it was a simple progression
    Atom --> Sublime --> JetBrains --> VSCode --> Vanilla Neovim --> NVChad (still Neovim)
    I have yet to see anything in any other code editor or IDE that is a good enough reason to leave my comfy Neovim setup.

  • @weeb3277
    @weeb3277 9 месяцев назад +2

    I need a copilot but for writing PRs

  • @Hoggins
    @Hoggins 9 месяцев назад +1

    Lets go. AI Fireship voice in this video

  • @Kabodanki
    @Kabodanki 9 месяцев назад

    Talking about AGI and the threat of it, it the best way for them to keep attention

  • @xc6013
    @xc6013 9 месяцев назад +1

    i love atom, i still use it sometimes for old times sake:)

  • @mkvalor
    @mkvalor 9 месяцев назад

    The final image of this video is an amazing reference.

  • @williamdes
    @williamdes 9 месяцев назад +1

    Well, I run it on Linux Debian 12. Support is ongoing by great devs on their free time. For now It displays and most buttons crash the interface. Each day there is less bugs.

  • @voidpointer398
    @voidpointer398 3 месяца назад +1

    Finally available for linux!!!

  • @Drokkstar_
    @Drokkstar_ 9 месяцев назад

    That outro music always kicks off a Barry White ear-worm. ("My first, my last, my everything...") - You're welcome. ;)

  • @anuttamanand150
    @anuttamanand150 9 месяцев назад

    I used it. Since I am working in Java, it doesn't have much support but it's lightning fast. And do use Warp terminal by same company

  • @razorree
    @razorree 9 месяцев назад

    good IDEs were long time ago, Turbo Pascal, Turbo C 2.0, Borland C++ 3.1 (build with Turbo Vision), later MS Visual Studio, Eclipse etc. ...

  • @MildManneredBarbarian
    @MildManneredBarbarian 9 месяцев назад

    Tried it out today and it's neat. Copilot integration is quick and note intuitive than my lunarcim setup. Shame some basic stuff is broke, like the eslint output window bot opening when you get an error, which is on every keystroke sometimes.

  • @davideographer4410
    @davideographer4410 9 месяцев назад +1

    You've heard of gaming at 120fps.
    Now get ready for coding at 120fps.
    Truly the gamechanger of all time.

  • @adyplaygameseanimes
    @adyplaygameseanimes 9 месяцев назад

    I still remember a time when Sublime was dominated the market through it's simplicity, now we're restarting

  • @Mosshugallwalls
    @Mosshugallwalls 9 месяцев назад

    What I presume is that coding will be replaced by ai but that would help programmers to move on the next floor of the building. While the ground floor will be managed by ai the 1st floor will be us experimenting on stuff like quantum computers

  • @RCHFULLSTACK
    @RCHFULLSTACK 9 месяцев назад

    There will probably be more price pressure on applications in the future, which means that increasingly faster ways of coding are required. When everyone can develop pro, low no-coding. So there will also be more choice for companies and users.

  • @lunarcdr3083
    @lunarcdr3083 9 месяцев назад

    Can't wait when the Marsellus Editor comes out.

  • @setokibah4476
    @setokibah4476 9 месяцев назад

    Well that's the push I needed, off to the Infantry we ride!

  • @rationalityfirst
    @rationalityfirst 9 месяцев назад

    I feel you. Before Neovim, I thought the same.

  • @12crenshaw
    @12crenshaw 9 месяцев назад

    That's basically one of the first code reports where my anxiety didn't spiked because of AI and me being programmer

  • @boopumer
    @boopumer 9 месяцев назад

    Seeing the Hi Mom made me remember, hope you are doing well @Fireship ...

  • @alpuhagame
    @alpuhagame 9 месяцев назад

    I remember how everyone complained at how IntelliJ was slow and eats a lot of RAM compared to VSCode.
    Back then VSCode was new, fast & cool, even though it had quite a bit of issues.
    I even switched to it later because some plugin or the editor itself introduced editing files remotely over SSH,
    the feature which I use massively because I don't have to remote control the company's device (usually a MacBook), when I can just edit files on it from Windows PC.
    Now, the question is... would we see the history repeat itself?