I hat off to your work. The video is really nicely filmed and edited. The content is extremely informative. I love your macro lens part so much since it helps to appreciate the quality and the finish of those watches. Comparing and reviewing 2 or more watches is really interesting and engaging. Keep up the great work, im your big fans right now. You said there is a similar watch to the sla047 but with a green benzel, so what is that model ? Im curious. Thank you
Hi Tuan, thank for the kind compliments. It certainly goes a long way that you enjoy my macro shots and comparisons, as I am hoping to stick to this formula for a long time. The model is the SLA019
Seiko killed it with that green. I think the MM200 wins in my book with the details: Stop light seconds hand, minute track printed on the dial, and an overall less cramped looking dial. Factor in the more universally wearable case of the 200 and I think that would be my choice, regardless of price.
The MM200 also doesnt have that cut out chapter ring for that bizarre index at the date. You're right and it would be my choice too. Many actually mod the SLA to have the stoplight hand
I went to try them both and I was ready to spend the extra money for the mm300 but I found the other one much more comfortable on my wrist. And the mm300 was way to close to LX spring drive in terms of price, which, in my opinion, is the pinnacle of Seiko execution and movement
I know this video is a year old but thanks for the great and helpful review. Personally, I love Seiko's green dials but I'm not a fan of the green bezels, so this reissue is right down my alley. Thanks again!
Fun fact, these small indexes next to the date window are new requirement for the ISO certification for dive watches. More brands will make them in the future.
They nailed a gorgeous emerald green. At the end of the day, we love watches because of the aesthetics, I love how brands are adding a bit of color to their classic designs. The mm300 in black dial did nothing for me, but this emerald green sunray has me lusting for it! Great job seiko!
It’s a very subtle green on the MM300! Almost black sometimes and I think that’s down to the thicker sapphire crystal. Get in the light however- and it starts to peacock 🦚
The ratcheting clasp from the Seiko MM300 can be purchased new in eBay for around $65. I have this bracelet on my sbdc063 MM200 and it is a very easy item to install in the mm200 bracelet. It greatly enhances the fit of the “baby marine master”. And no it is not “too fat”.
Nice but 6,000 pieces or 3,000 is really funny 😆. I have the SLA019 green on green, limited to 1968. This is the real anniversary IMO, I am so happy for it.
Great diction and a pleasure to watch. I would have wished to have seen the packaging as a value for money thing. The 3 o'clock lume pip I like but it could be a 50/50 decision no doubt to many . I did get the Retro 63mas /SPB143j because of what it represents, I will also eventually get the MM200 as it is superb as a real utility watch and speaks SEIKO with one glance. Cheers from Brisbane, Queensland, the Sunshine State. 🌞👍😃
This is what I love about the whole community and collecting- the variety of opinions! The 3oclock pip has grown on me, I think on the spb143 and spb147 it has been executed finely. Thanks so much for the kind comment and cheers from Western Canada! 😃
Great video. No question that Seiko got the design of these two reversed. The 200 is the more elegant execution. The '5' on the bezel is better. On the 300 the '5's tail is so close it looks like a messed up 6 at a glance. And they still haven't refined that big wad of a pointer on the top of the bezel. The 300 is a bit cartoonish. Seiko has, however, really got their green colour down. Love it. I wish the 200 had the 300 bezel feel and robust spec.
Subscribed. Just found your channel when looking into the SPB207 and I gotta say I like your style, especially as a fellow youtuber. Great b-roll. I would turn down the volume on the music over the b-roll, just me personally.
Great review 👍 I prefer the mm200 based on its asthetics and practicality. But I wonder whether the mm300 is a better buy given the superior movement. Do you think it's worth the extra money?
@@perpetuality after watching your video and reading a few reviews online, I decided to buy this watch. I'm very impressed overall. The build quality is solid. Thanks again 👍
My vote goes to mm300 as the 8L35 is a cousin of the Grand Seiko, is a more accurate watch but not limited to just that the bracelet has a diver extension, ceramic bezel, monobloc case, better loom, smooth bezel action compared to rolex in some videos. so i guess you get what u pay for.
Lovely review of both and two beautiful looking watches, but at this price point and this goes for other brands that do it too, they should not be using any stamped bits on the bracelet! Even though the actual part is milled the closure is stamped and this is the reason I can't buy these watches.
On the 300, the cutout in the chapter ring for the lume plot at 3 is not a good look. I understand it's for compliance but it would make me personally seek out the earlier models that also include a framed date window.
Definitely agree its out of place on the dial and ruins the balance of the dial too. I cant fathom why they chose to do this as the SLA023 never had it and is a wonderful dial
I may have missed it, but is the bezel insert on the MM300 a very dark green or black on the model shown in the video (it's bit hard to tell watching the clip as Seiko does employ some pretty dark greens now and again)? I have the SLA019 (Deep Forest Green dial, green bezel LE MM300) and likely going to grab some more 300's over the next couple of years. They are fantastic watches. I have the Ginza 200MM (SBDC079 300 pieces LE Green Dial, Black Bezel) that looks rather close to the 200 but does not have the same flat top coin edge bezel based on what I can see in the vid. The hands are different as well. Case and Bracelet look the same however. Regardless....these are great looking watches and I'm likely to add them to the "must have" list based on what I see here. Thank-you for a great high quality vid and review!
Hey Mitch, the bezel insert is a deep black. Whether the difference is enough to distinguish the sla019 is another story. I think the newer MM300 has a deeper green dial than the SLA019. The Ginza is beautiful! Thanks for watching!
Is it worth buying mm300 without marinemaster and unadjusted movement?what’s the daily accuracy of the watch watch?can the watch fit in small size wrist?any issues problems while using the tool watch?
I would say the MM200 is the better buy for smaller wrists. Both watches would be great as a purpose tool watch. Accuracy will be much better on the MM300
I recently saw a video where the reviewer noted that little lum marker by the date opening is to meet the ISO Diver certification of the timepiece... I haven't validated that, but thought I'd mention.
if you look carefully at 6:03 you can notice that it is not perfectly aligned. between The rehaut and the index. Even if i love seiko I think for a 3 thousand watch it's unacceptable .
It was confirmed on watchuseek and modders that the Prospex line right up to the SLA017 MM300 has stamped dials. There are some photos of back of dials of the mm300 to show this. It’s reasonable to expect the MM200 is the same as majority of Prospex have stamped dials! But seiko could make it easier for us by just listing it as so. Nebulous and as mysterious as they are
@@magnuman008 from what i hear they were similar save for the addition of the Prospex logo. The real shocker is seeing the 62mas reissue / SLA017 with a stamped dial. That is not an inexpensive watch
Feel that the differentiation from standard 200 should have included a ceramic bezel for this price. It’s a beautiful watch - but that premium for a green dial...makes me pause.
So was i! In Videos it seems bulky and overweigh, but it obviously individually depends on handsize and symmetry. Great looking watch. Thought i would go for the spb, bit now i'm really struggeling. Very good review.
On the watchuseek forums it was confirmed that all prospex watches including the MM300 and SLA017 had stamped dials, there are photos of the rear side of the SLA017 that confirms this. It seems Seiko reserves applied indices for Grand Seiko AFAIK.
@@sandsoftime3248 I couldnt find any info on that! some argue it is applied, others dont, for the SARB anyway. Let me know if you find a photo of the rear of the dial as that tells the full story
Why cant they make this watch without the date complication? You would think it would be cheaper, but its not. Ive only seen one in the 42mm size without the date windows and it was a green `limited edition.` How ridiculous of Seiko to call 6 and 9k runs `limited editions` - And every year make numerous of them. Bit of a turn-off... as much as I like the baby Marine Masters.
There's no excuse to be using pressed and capped indices instead of applied indices at this price point, or on any watch over $100. Either you print your markers or apply them, there's no cheaping out with pressed parts.
Seiko does not outright mention it but did for the SLA021 and the SLA023 which did have zaratsu on the underbelly of the case. The SLA047 essentially has the same case. Why they don’t mention it is bizarre for Seiko
You can buy Shitko from £100 to £3000+ and you wouldn't know the difference once on the wrist (too many models look similar and too many special editions) You might have a £3000 Shitko on your wrist, and it looks like a £300 models. Omega, Rolex etc have models, one will/ can recognise it miles away and you'll know the true value of it.
Nice but 6,000 pieces or 3,000 is really funny 😆. I have the SLA019 green on green, limited to 1968. This is the real anniversary IMO, I am so happy for it.
I hat off to your work. The video is really nicely filmed and edited. The content is extremely informative. I love your macro lens part so much since it helps to appreciate the quality and the finish of those watches. Comparing and reviewing 2 or more watches is really interesting and engaging.
Keep up the great work, im your big fans right now.
You said there is a similar watch to the sla047 but with a green benzel, so what is that model ? Im curious. Thank you
Hi Tuan, thank for the kind compliments. It certainly goes a long way that you enjoy my macro shots and comparisons, as I am hoping to stick to this formula for a long time. The model is the SLA019
Seiko killed it with that green. I think the MM200 wins in my book with the details: Stop light seconds hand, minute track printed on the dial, and an overall less cramped looking dial. Factor in the more universally wearable case of the 200 and I think that would be my choice, regardless of price.
all these seiko divers are looking the same to me, they all look nice but not interesting enough at the increased pricepoint.i'll pass
The MM200 also doesnt have that cut out chapter ring for that bizarre index at the date. You're right and it would be my choice too. Many actually mod the SLA to have the stoplight hand
Completely agree. mm200 is very versatile and would look great with a bespoke leather strap. The 6R35 movement is also very robust.
I went to try them both and I was ready to spend the extra money for the mm300 but I found the other one much more comfortable on my wrist. And the mm300 was way to close to LX spring drive in terms of price, which, in my opinion, is the pinnacle of Seiko execution and movement
I know this video is a year old but thanks for the great and helpful review. Personally, I love Seiko's green dials but I'm not a fan of the green bezels, so this reissue is right down my alley. Thanks again!
My dad brought this for me for my birthday yesterday. And I have to say it's the best looking watch I have seen.
Your dad certainly has great taste in watches!
congrats, the mm200 or mm300 with this green dial is amazing! it's limited too, so you won't see too many!
Can I be adopted? I’m a young 72.🤡
Fun fact, these small indexes next to the date window are new requirement for the ISO certification for dive watches. More brands will make them in the future.
They are ugly
They nailed a gorgeous emerald green. At the end of the day, we love watches because of the aesthetics, I love how brands are adding a bit of color to their classic designs. The mm300 in black dial did nothing for me, but this emerald green sunray has me lusting for it! Great job seiko!
It’s a very subtle green on the MM300! Almost black sometimes and I think that’s down to the thicker sapphire crystal. Get in the light however- and it starts to peacock 🦚
Can’t resist the green dials! Green is something we feel familiar and comfortable with, a color that’s around us all the time!
Its the money color! Haha
Trees and grass bro
Both applicable one more than the other 😂
You are correct. We are surrounded by green. Except for the inside of my wallet.🤡🤡🤡
The ratcheting clasp from the Seiko MM300 can be purchased new in eBay for around $65. I have this bracelet on my sbdc063 MM200 and it is a very easy item to install in the mm200 bracelet. It greatly enhances the fit of the “baby marine master”. And no it is not “too fat”.
Had no idea that was a thing! Solid advice
Very useful information on clasp- thank you very much🙏😊😊
Watches the video 3 times now, still fascinated by the video skills and the watches themselves, of course. Thanks a lot!
Your videos are insanely well filmed. Only issue is the audio, your voice is quiet but the music is 10x louder during the B-roll.
yea, scared me when it cuts to music...
Nice but 6,000 pieces or 3,000 is really funny 😆. I have the SLA019 green on green, limited to 1968. This is the real anniversary IMO, I am so happy for it.
Great diction and a pleasure to watch. I would have wished to have seen the packaging as a value for money thing. The 3 o'clock lume pip I like but it could be a 50/50 decision no doubt to many . I did get the Retro 63mas /SPB143j because of what it represents, I will also eventually get the MM200 as it is superb as a real utility watch and speaks SEIKO with one glance. Cheers from Brisbane, Queensland, the Sunshine State. 🌞👍😃
This is what I love about the whole community and collecting- the variety of opinions! The 3oclock pip has grown on me, I think on the spb143 and spb147 it has been executed finely. Thanks so much for the kind comment and cheers from Western Canada! 😃
Just bought it online yesterday. Can't wait!
Big congrats! which one did you end up with?
@@perpetuality SPB207J1
@@wellygeek ace choice! Enjoy it buddy 😀
Great video. No question that Seiko got the design of these two reversed. The 200 is the more elegant execution. The '5' on the bezel is better. On the 300 the '5's tail is so close it looks like a messed up 6 at a glance. And they still haven't refined that big wad of a pointer on the top of the bezel. The 300 is a bit cartoonish. Seiko has, however, really got their green colour down. Love it. I wish the 200 had the 300 bezel feel and robust spec.
Happy Father’s Day!! Just got myself SPB207 🤩🤩
What a choice watch for Father's Day too. Enjoy!!
Discovered your channel recently. Really like the style of your review videos: genuine, "raw", beautiful imagery and nice sound tracks. Subscribed :)
I only just saw this now but really appreciate your comment. Thank you so much!
Great video comparing them both.
Very, very good review. Thanks!
Superb review. Gorgeous watches. Thank you 🙏 😊😊
Great review buddy!!
Thanks for watching Harry!
Subscribed. Just found your channel when looking into the SPB207 and I gotta say I like your style, especially as a fellow youtuber. Great b-roll. I would turn down the volume on the music over the b-roll, just me personally.
Great review man!
Thanks so much buddy! 😃🙇🏻♂️
Great review. And really, really good presentation.
Very generous of you. Thank you
They are simply gorgeous, thank you for this video! Does the mm200 feature the dia shield technology!?
It does! Also thank you for watching 😃
Oh man... I really want the mm200.
You and me included!
you'll regret not buying the mm300
The case sides zuratsu polished and the shape are very unique versus the other mm200s
Definitely agree! Thanks for watching
@@perpetuality Welcome. Picked up mine about 2 weeks ago. Last of 2 pieces left in Manila.
Good review both of these wacth are very nice !
Great review 👍 I prefer the mm200 based on its asthetics and practicality. But I wonder whether the mm300 is a better buy given the superior movement. Do you think it's worth the extra money?
I would say only for the diehard Seiko enthusiast, or someone who enjoys the beefier look of the MM300. The MM200 for the money is just the better buy
@@perpetuality after watching your video and reading a few reviews online, I decided to buy this watch. I'm very impressed overall. The build quality is solid. Thanks again 👍
@@Captain_Rimmeri’m so happy for you, glad I could help lighten your wallet :)
Enjoy it in good health buddy!
Have to agree the 200mm looks the one I would get...
My vote goes to mm300 as the 8L35 is a cousin of the Grand Seiko, is a more accurate watch but not limited to just that the bracelet has a diver extension, ceramic bezel, monobloc case, better loom, smooth bezel action compared to rolex in some videos. so i guess you get what u pay for.
I like the size and dimensions
Hi are the SBDX043 numbered? Asking since they are limited edition, thanks
Lovely review of both and two beautiful looking watches, but at this price point and this goes for other brands that do it too, they should not be using any stamped bits on the bracelet! Even though the actual part is milled the closure is stamped and this is the reason I can't buy these watches.
I just can’t get used to that crippled index that Seiko now crams next to the date window at 3h… 🙄
Great review 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks Dee!
Wish mm300 was 40mm or 39😞😞
On the 300, the cutout in the chapter ring for the lume plot at 3 is not a good look. I understand it's for compliance but it would make me personally seek out the earlier models that also include a framed date window.
Agree, Framed date windows make so much difference, even just a drawn one like on my Sumo.
Definitely agree its out of place on the dial and ruins the balance of the dial too. I cant fathom why they chose to do this as the SLA023 never had it and is a wonderful dial
@@Chris-oz9qx Love the Sumo!
imagine a framed design to integrate the date window and lume plot that makes it somewhat symmetrical to the 9 o'clock
I may have missed it, but is the bezel insert on the MM300 a very dark green or black on the model shown in the video (it's bit hard to tell watching the clip as Seiko does employ some pretty dark greens now and again)? I have the SLA019 (Deep Forest Green dial, green bezel LE MM300) and likely going to grab some more 300's over the next couple of years. They are fantastic watches. I have the Ginza 200MM (SBDC079 300 pieces LE Green Dial, Black Bezel) that looks rather close to the 200 but does not have the same flat top coin edge bezel based on what I can see in the vid. The hands are different as well. Case and Bracelet look the same however. Regardless....these are great looking watches and I'm likely to add them to the "must have" list based on what I see here. Thank-you for a great high quality vid and review!
Hey Mitch, the bezel insert is a deep black. Whether the difference is enough to distinguish the sla019 is another story. I think the newer MM300 has a deeper green dial than the SLA019. The Ginza is beautiful! Thanks for watching!
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Great review
Thanks so much Ravin!
Is it worth buying mm300 without marinemaster and unadjusted movement?what’s the daily accuracy of the watch watch?can the watch fit in small size wrist?any issues problems while using the tool watch?
I would say the MM200 is the better buy for smaller wrists. Both watches would be great as a purpose tool watch. Accuracy will be much better on the MM300
I recently saw a video where the reviewer noted that little lum marker by the date opening is to meet the ISO Diver certification of the timepiece... I haven't validated that, but thought I'd mention.
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great video! btw how do you think MM 200 compare to seiko sumo green 103J?
The green MM200 is richer and much more interesting in person. I feel the sumo falls a little short
It’s nice but come on Seiko, for that price point can’t you put a frame around the date window?
Thats a great point, considering the best they've done for the MM300 is a silver border around the date
Man this makes me want to sell my SLA021 and just get an mm200
It wouldn’t be a bad trade off, and I don’t think it’s a trade off actually. Free up funds for a nice GS too!
These watches are almost perfect, but the indices at the date window are so wrong and a no go. Seiko, why oh why 🤦🏻♂️
Picky much?
Great review! please do the SLA021
Will consider it and i'll be asking for one for review! thanks for watching
Was looking for a green dial Seiko Macy’s has one but it’s not either of these lol. Would you sell one of them?
I would love to but these are to sell- they belong to my buddy Ryan at bezelhouse- I think he may still carry them!
Nicely done, thanks for the share....uncanny sound to Hauteones voiceover :-)
Thank you! That is an honor in itself! I assure you we are not the same person 😄
if you look carefully at 6:03 you can notice that it is not perfectly aligned. between The rehaut and the index. Even if i love seiko I think for a 3 thousand watch it's unacceptable .
It's safe to assume you don't drive a Jeep.
So beautiful
are you sure that the MM300 indices are stamped? I have read that these were applied markers.
It was confirmed on watchuseek and modders that the Prospex line right up to the SLA017 MM300 has stamped dials. There are some photos of back of dials of the mm300 to show this. It’s reasonable to expect the MM200 is the same as majority of Prospex have stamped dials! But seiko could make it easier for us by just listing it as so. Nebulous and as mysterious as they are
@@perpetuality do you know if the MM 300 prior to Prospex branding were the same?
@@magnuman008 from what i hear they were similar save for the addition of the Prospex logo. The real shocker is seeing the 62mas reissue / SLA017 with a stamped dial. That is not an inexpensive watch
I wish the mm 200 had the large indices like the mm 300
if the mm200 is not ceramic bezel, what material is it?
It’s a hardened lacquered steel bezel
Feel that the differentiation from standard 200 should have included a ceramic bezel for this price. It’s a beautiful watch - but that premium for a green dial...makes me pause.
Do you have a video of how to deploy the adjustment for 200m one?
Unfortunately I do not, it was rather difficult to remove on camera. Not the easiest system
@@perpetuality yeah been trying to open it up too - ok that confirms it. Thank you!
What bezel MM200 is using? Aluminium ?
It’s a steel insert with hardened coating to resist scratches
@@perpetuality thank you
I was surprised how well the 300 fit on your wrist.
As was I! It’s got some serious wrist presence too
So was i! In Videos it seems bulky and overweigh, but it obviously individually depends on handsize and symmetry. Great looking watch. Thought i would go for the spb, bit now i'm really struggeling. Very good review.
Does the MM300 have stepped indices or applied. I know you mentioned MM200 has stepped indices, wanted to confirm the MM300.
On the watchuseek forums it was confirmed that all prospex watches including the MM300 and SLA017 had stamped dials, there are photos of the rear side of the SLA017 that confirms this. It seems Seiko reserves applied indices for Grand Seiko AFAIK.
@@perpetuality Thanks for that, yeah its a little weird, what about watches like the sarb033 or the Crown Presage, surely those are applied?
@@sandsoftime3248 I couldnt find any info on that! some argue it is applied, others dont, for the SARB anyway. Let me know if you find a photo of the rear of the dial as that tells the full story
The earlier mm300 (sbdx001 & sbdx017) had applied indices, and the sarbs definitely have applied indices.
Dude your music is to loud!!!
But I want them both.
Why cant they make this watch without the date complication? You would think it would be cheaper, but its not. Ive only seen one in the 42mm size without the date windows and it was a green `limited edition.` How ridiculous of Seiko to call 6 and 9k runs `limited editions` - And every year make numerous of them. Bit of a turn-off... as much as I like the baby Marine Masters.
You don't know what the diver's extension is for?
It’s for use on a wetsuit where the wetsuit adds bulk to the wrist. Is there something else I should know? Always open to learning
why are there so many damn ads in this video of yours?
Now really question-- under indoor lighting, can you see the green on the dial at all?
The MM200 green is more visible in indoor lighting than the MM300- due to the mm300 having a thicker sapphire crystal
whats the band width ?
20mm
Anyone out here actually dig the Prospex logo ?
Ive grown familiar to it now haha! So much so that i focus on everything but that X
Yes
There's no excuse to be using pressed and capped indices instead of applied indices at this price point, or on any watch over $100. Either you print your markers or apply them, there's no cheaping out with pressed parts.
Has this got the same horrible bracelet as the sumo? Changed mine to a jubilee
It seems far more solid than the sumo bracelet IMO
No point getting any SLA when the cheaper versions are pretty much the same. The movement in the SLA is just as bad as the cheaper models.
MM300: 2 piece links and no zaratsu polish on the case
Seiko does not outright mention it but did for the SLA021 and the SLA023 which did have zaratsu on the underbelly of the case. The SLA047 essentially has the same case. Why they don’t mention it is bizarre for Seiko
You can buy Shitko from £100 to £3000+ and you wouldn't know the difference once on the wrist (too many models look similar and too many special editions)
You might have a £3000 Shitko on your wrist, and it looks like a £300 models.
Omega, Rolex etc have models, one will/ can recognise it miles away and you'll know the true value of it.
Nice but 6,000 pieces or 3,000 is really funny 😆. I have the SLA019 green on green, limited to 1968. This is the real anniversary IMO, I am so happy for it.