Andrew I noted you plane flight crockett, that is not because of you trimming, is because the board when you initialize was not level, that happen to me before, if you see that you horizontal bar do not match with the horizon is because is not sink, and some time if you trigger return home or fail safe, he's going to fallow the horizontal bar, and in extreme cases will dive into the ground, happen to me in one wing.
Thank you very much for this video. I spent hours getting the GPS to work, and considered disassembling the entire device in frustration, until I saw this video, and connected the battery... You saved my day. :)
Hi again Andrew! I'm planning a winter project (in your summer) building an ASW28 and equipt it with FPV. As training I have a Timber UMX with a micro cam and VTX. I tried using goggles, but that didn't work for me as I'm using reading glasses, so now I go for a monitor mounted on to the TX. Then I'm building a FPV-pod a la Alan Moore to use on my pressent ASW 28. Now to the point. In the new ASW 28 I'm planning to use a FCB. I've studied your two videoes of the Matek 405, then I've found another FCB for fix wing, a Cyclops Storm. The major difference between the two is that the Cyclops Storm is complete DIY kit, (except cam and WTX) while the Matek 405 is more abuild-it-yourself gadget. And then the Matek 405 require some soldering and switching around with cables and plugs. But it sertanly has moore features and possibilities. I'm sertanly not a trained "solder", and have limitied knowledge in electronics, but I can read a manual and follow a procedure. What do you recommend? And you are using a variety of servo plugs. Is there a tool that fix the cable to the plug, and where do you buy theese plugs, 2, 3 and 4 pins and tools. Thanks for very interesting videoes. "Sev"
Hi Sev. These are the Dupont connectors I bought www.aliexpress.com/item/1450Pcs-Set-2-54mm-Dupont-Connector-Kit-PCB-Headers-Male-Female-Pins-Electronics/32841687530.html There is a crimping tool available but I just use long nose pliers and solder. You would need to practice soldering before taking on the Matek F405, the fine pins are easy but the thick battery wires are more tricky to do nicely. Worth learning the skill anyway. I dont know anything about the Storm FCB but it does look easy to connect up. Interesting project, but flight control boards are not really designed for thermal gliders. Would be better suited to something like a Ranger 2000 with big batteries and long powered flight time.
This is so relevant I have this fc on the bench right now Beware cutting the GPS unit cord for shorter length the black is connected to the cable sheath
As always, great video, Andrew! I'm definitely going to order this flight controller. Maybe two, lol. I wanted to share something with you, just in case you weren't aware of it. You can add a Lost Model Buzzer/Beeper to the flight controller and, when the GPS Lock has been acquired, you will get an audible notification. I have set this up on my my two Inav/GPS builds and I very much like having the audible notification. As long as the Buzzer is enabled in the Configuration Tab, Inav does this by default. Take care buddy!!!
Andrew, highly suggest modifying the time alarm in the OSD tab, it's defaulted to 10mins which is why it started flashing. Also go to the font uploader in the OSD tab and try Clarity or Vision(in 2.0.0), it will make it far more readable. Good video, one I meant to make but didn't get around to haha
Another awesome video. I am stuck with the FPV setup. May I learn your VTX preference for this configuration. On one of your video I watched your positive review about TS5823L, would it be fine to use that? Thanks in advance.
Hi Andrew, I would like to ask you a question, I have a Matek 405 v2 for my glider, I use Inav Configurator 6.1.0 and FC Firmware 6.0. I completed it and I even flew it, but only the pitch servo and ailerons work, the rest doesn't work, Inav reads it but they don't respond to the commands... I tried everything, can you recommend something?
Hi Andrew Think I will give Inav a try!! Probably using a H King Bixler V2 and the Matek F405 which you have described so well.. Do you soft mount your Flight Controllers i.e. Using anti vibration mounts etc??
I tried using an Eagletree Vector in this plane but couldn’t get the Vector close enough to the CG due to the limited space in the top rack resulting in pitch instability.
This might be a stupid question, but do you need an ESC if you use the Matek 405? I assume the ESC is not needed since the flight controller handles that as well.
I have this set up in a similar model and when I'm in manual mode the plane wants to roll to the left. To trim this do I have to adjust my servo arm or can you trim this in INAV configurator? Your videos have been extremely helpful!!! Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!!!
Andrew Newton thank you sir!! I did try the auto trim but it didn’t seem to fix the roll. I believe the safest way would be to adjust the pushrods manually. Then I know the plane will fly correctly for sure. Thanks for your help!!
Hi Andrew. Just asking what port was your gps on in inav ports tab please? I am having a lot of trouble getting the fc to recognise the gps. Thanks. Ben
Thanks Andrew. Much appreciated. UART 4 corresponds to the TX and RX pads on the flight controller. It is working well now with a Ublox 6mn gps from an old APM. I am using the Matek f405 ctr for this QAV500 quad and have ordered an F405 Wing from your affiliate link for my Bixler project. Many thanks. CP
I have been looking around for the Futaba 4 pin connector that you are using for the GPS and i can't find it anywhere. Perhaps i am searching for the wrong text. Can you point me out in the right direction? Thank you in advance and as always, thank you for posting these amazing videos.
Andrew, Can you suggest a Bluetooth module that would be a plug and play that can be used with the 405 flight board and Inav. Some thing that is as simple as possible to set up would be appreciated.
Andrew, I also purchased a Matex and funny I had the same revelation with hooking up and powering the GPS. Too bad I did not watch this first. My only remaining issue is using the Inav OSD. I hooked up the transmitter and camera just like you and great pictures, but no OSD readings. There is probably a small item I missed. Any suggestions?
@@AndrewNewton I went there and did setup the features and in the modes I setup the OSD SW. I didn't remeber the switch but went back and see that turns it on and off. My error. Thanks.
RadioLink M8N GPS are affordable and excellent and I would imagine the TS100 as well 20+ sats always or well 17 to 20+ anyway more than you need. good value
Hey Andrew. Just starting my build. Interesting, I did what you said and opened the GPS to confirm the wire and terminal alignment. I thought I had an issue with the GPS as the black ground wire (assumed) was frayed. I see it was exactly the same for you (1:33). Not sure why it is, just good to know I’m not alone. I was thinking I would have to rewire it and solder to the terminals. Have you had any issues with the GPS as a result?
@@AndrewNewton thanks Andrew, I got all my parts coming before my wing I'm going to put it in so I'll have time to play around with it. Hope your move is going well
whelp my f405 order from makerfire was a bust. Apparently they will take your money even if they dont have stock and dont plan on ever getting stock. Ordered up a F722-WPX instead from ready made rc. Ill see you over on that video lol
Hi Andrew, another great video. Have you considered fitting a 6 position knob on your Taranis for mode selection? I find it much easier than switch combinations.
Thanks for tour explanatory video. Just a question. I’ve read on the net that the ranger 2000 is really a stable plane (great for fpv) and should not need any stabilization. Do you agree with that? Thanks.
Hello, is it possible to trim my plane (I’m using matek 405 on inav)while I’m flying or I should do it after fly? Tell me pls how to do it, I heard that it is a mistake to trim servos on taranis?
Yes, switch to Manual, activate Auto trim mode while flying, fly level for maybe 30 seconds, trims should adjust themselves, land and disarm. Dont touch the taranis trims.
Hello , new to rc aircraft, is it possible to run 8 motors with this esc? In other words use the two esc power pads to power four motors each. Its for a school project involving distributed electric propulsion. Ive looked for previous examples and researched the topic through different forums. It seems possible with Y connectors but would appreciate any knowledge you could share on the topic. thanks.
sorry I meant 8 escs and motors with this flight controller? Have four escs and motros on one wing connected to one of the esc power pads and the other four connected to the second esc power pad. Ive researched and it seams possible using y splitters and only running the positive lead to one esc and just ground to the other 3. @@AndrewNewton
I andrew ,in november 2019 , wich is the best choice , Matek F405 or F411 (for volantex ASw28) i send message to you 1 weeks ago on your perfect support for asw28 :-).thanks very much for answer
Hi Andrew, on the Matek wiring page it says that left & right Ailerons go on S4 & S5. Does this mean that they need to be plugged in separately or can I use either S4 or S5 on a Y lead ? Trust your fingers are recovering, had a look at them on your Community Tab, boy that had to hurt big time :) Cheers, Pete
I have this installed in a SonicModell AR Wing. Everything works well except for one very annoying bug. The OSD drops out intermittently several times during the flight. The video is solid, but the OSD drops out. I have triple checked everything and even replaced the flight controller but the problem persists. I am not using the 5 volts from the ESC but am powering the board through the battery voltage only. I'm ready to pull out the F405 and go back to an OmnibusF4.
@@AndrewNewton Problem solved thanks to you getting me to look in the right direction. I simply changed out my camera from a Biteye SA-A3161 to a CaddexTurbo Micro F1. Interestingly enough, although the Biteye specs state PAL and NTSC, there is no adjustment in their OSD menu for video format. In INAV, I always select Auto for video format and never have had a problem. Again, thank you very much Andrew for your suggestion.
Quick question - does the board provide enough current for all servos, vtx & camera ?? - I read the F411 is not good enough, so wondered if the F405 is any better - thx !
Thanks to your review i might get one but can it be flashed with ardupilot Also have you a video on how to install ardupilot on a windows pc and gave up trying yesterday but managed to get mission planner to work which is interesting program to play about with
Question, Andrew - my Ranger has the left/right ailerons joined into one plug. On the iNav mixer it shows that they have to go to S4 & S5. Do I have to change to separate cables and connect them individually? Thanks.
What’s going on with RSSI? Nice video by the way. I tried setting up inav on a nano talon recently and pretty much took a sledgehammer to the board after a week of nothing but frustrations. I’m considering getting this board instead of trying another Omnibus F4 which imo is ridiculously cumbersome. I really want a vector but money may be an issue with that board being it’s almost $250US! I haven’t really decided. I am definitely getting this plane and ordering it in two days but for the flight board I prefer something that’s not going to take me days or possibly weeks to get configured. I’ve been using APM and pixhawk for a few years on Multicopter but never planes. I may just throw one of my spare pixhawks or even an Apm in.
Thank you for the great video. I just received the same FC and will Mount it in a ranger 2000. How long are Your leads from FC to the battery and from FC to the ESC ? Can you show how you mounted the FC inside the plane? I will use a Frsky L9R in SBUS, but how can i get the RSSI from this to the FC ( setup in inav)
Battery lead is 8" and ESC 6" I just set up RSSI from an X8R for the first time. All you need is a single wire from the RSSI pin on the Rx to the RSSI pin on the board. Then enable RSSI in the OSD (I think, haven't tried it in the air yet) I'll do a follow up video soon
You need to plug a GPS unit in? The board won't work without it? I'm looking at getting this board just for the osd and autolevel and was planning on adding in gps and that sort of thing later on. Can i use the board without a gps?
Hello Andrew...I have a question...using inav can I have the board hooked up to my laptop and have the board powered up using the lipo battery and have to gps hooked up at the same time ?
Good video. I have exactly same setup. Just one question, During your first RTH trial, why do you think the plane was going left and right instead of coming straight at you?
Andrew Newton Thanks Andrew, One request, it would be very helpful if you can do a video on configuration of airspeed sensor for this plane. There are almost no videos out there on this topic. Thanks.
F411 Wing is a good board. Just that it is not filtered on the FPV feed and ESC noise shows if you power the ESC through it. It's not terrible and can be reduced with an LC filter. Video is clean if you dont connect the ESC to the board, which means you dont have current sensing. F405 Wing is the best
Basic plane with no mixing, no expo, no rates. Just 100% throttle, 100% aileron, 100% elevator. Here's my blog post that gives more details. newtonairlines.blogspot.com/2017/10/inav-fixed-wing-tips.html
Yes. Flaps directly from the receiver. I know you like to use 2 channels for flaps. I slum it and use 1. Having used pixhawks in the past I now love the versatility of the modes of Inav. I have a couple of Furious F35 lightning flight controllers. I found the aileron servos needed the polarity changing to stop the FC turning the plane onto it's back. Guess what happens to flaperons when that happens. (Crow) I wonder if that could be induced by swapping the aileron leads??? I like your videos. I think a lot of other folk do as well. Please keep them coming and if this little tip is useful ……… Go for it. Garry G
I discovered the flaperon/crow purely by accident. Or rather to stop an accident. Further to the thought of swapping aileron leads. I have one of banggoods cheaper options for the f35 FC as well as the 2 "genuine" F35 kits. The 2 "genuine" F35s require the aileron servos' polarity to be swapped for the FC to react properly. The cheap one does not. I haven't checked this yet (but am going to) I wonder how the FC would react to swapped aileron leads????? If things were set up to match would the FC notice the "fiddle"
@@AndrewNewton Homeposition at Arming and Arrow to Home looks fine. tomorrow i'll try again... could imagine that there is a issue with the max angles in navigation modes.... today was frustrating. Crahsed my 9" into the woods....lost a 100€ 4 inch....and my 5 inch quad is toilett bowling as hell :D
Thanks for your reply. I don't have pictures of the airplane because I am still building the airplane. I just want to know that I can fly airplane. What is your opinion?
Bandito Fpv essentially yes. I have both. The 411 has only 2 Uarts and no blackbox. But it's much better for small flying wings that don't have flaps and pan and tilt and all that kind of stuff.
NoAgenda FPV ok thanks I’m have the f411 and it’s going into my wife’s rite wing hc44 that isn’t running gps or anything like that, just fpv gear and receiver. Really just want something to keep her stable on launch.
Can't wait to try my F405 Andrew, had it a while. Tip...put the crosshair on your OSD, this way you can tell how good your Pitch trim status is (Board Trim) when flying in Horizon. The AHI should pass thru centre as the plane cruises along in Horizon Mode. I need a model with Rudder to test its full potential as Im pretty sure iNAV will use both Ailerons AND Rudder during GPS Modes like RTH. It looked like it was over controlling a bit on your first RTH attempt? One of the most impressive things about your clip for me was the nice clean Video Link, even though this FC has a current counter on it. You really should try and fly in Horizon / Alt Hold more, it's by far the laziest Modes to have engaged...lol. Im assuming the Rudder is gyro stabilised?...you didn't really focus on it? Great bird to do the testing with......More please.
Thanks to your comments in the past, if I was heading off down the coast for a distance test I would use Alt Hold and Horizon, and yes the rudder is stabilised too. More testing needed, may have been the wind causing the side to side seeking on that first RTH, or insufficient throttle. 15kn wind up there.
For a test flight it was pretty good Andrew. I think on the first RTH it was trying to climb a bit too steep for the power level setup, and then it kind of turned off the stall each time..? I usually have RTH set at 100 mtrs and then 30 bank, 15 Climb , 5 Dive...usually works okay. Like to see it fly again in RTH to see if its using Rudder...? Thinking of putting it in my Skywalker 1900, but Rudder is essential for this one, its adverse yaw is terrible.
Hi, yes.....Aileron diff is not enough on the SW1900...I used Aileron and Rudder mix which cured it very nicely. my Storm AP does not have Rudder on it though, so this FC would cure that problem.
I have a solution of sorts, I'm plugging flaps directly into Ch8 on my X8R and not using Ch8 via SBUS on the MATEK board. Video coming as soon as I can test fly the setup. I suspect iNav 2.0 will make all this easier.
Andrew Newton finally worked it out mate! Need to create another input channel on your taranis for flaps, then in inav on the mixer tab create a new rule for the channel that you created in your taranis as the source and modify it on the servos tab :)
hello andrew, currently what autopilot system would you recommend for a plane or wing, for long range fpv? I was thinking about miniapm or pixracer with Mission planner but after watching this video I do not know if this plate or another one with inav can be a good / better option. Best regards
suggestion: connect an external compass(or the one on the gps module) to the FC using i2c. INAV require a compass to enable funtions such as return-to-home(RTH) mode. github.com/iNavFlight/inav/blob/master/docs/Navigation.md#nav-rth---return-to-home-mode
From the WIKI If your compass is not 100% properly setup just disable it instead. A calibrated compass can cause orientation drift during flight that may not show up in the configurator(especially built-in ones on your FC). Really consider disabling it unless you need it. INAV uses GPS heading normally, Only on ground before GPS speed has been high enough or if error between GPS heading and compass heading exceed 60deg will it use compass heading
Hello there, hey one quest how do you avoid this issues with the matek FC? Hers the link of the video I’ll appreciate all your help ruclips.net/video/NkkuISNQNkE/видео.html
Love the Matek 405SE and iNav. Awesome combination and even with all the peripherals, a fraction of the cost of the Vector.
Andrew I noted you plane flight crockett, that is not because of you trimming, is because the board when you initialize was not level, that happen to me before, if you see that you horizontal bar do not match with the horizon is because is not sink, and some time if you trigger return home or fail safe, he's going to fallow the horizontal bar, and in extreme cases will dive into the ground, happen to me in one wing.
Thank you very much for this video. I spent hours getting the GPS to work, and considered disassembling the entire device in frustration, until I saw this video, and connected the battery... You saved my day. :)
Oh yes, that catches me out often
Great flights Andrew.
I took my Maule there today and had to avoid the water after one wet landing.
Ha yes, need accurate landings or you're in a puddle
Hi again Andrew!
I'm planning a winter project (in your summer) building an ASW28 and equipt it with FPV. As training I have a Timber UMX with a micro cam and VTX. I tried using goggles, but that didn't work for me as I'm using reading glasses, so now I go for a monitor mounted on to the TX. Then I'm building a FPV-pod a la Alan Moore to use on my pressent ASW 28.
Now to the point. In the new ASW 28 I'm planning to use a FCB. I've studied your two videoes of the Matek 405, then I've found another FCB for fix wing, a Cyclops Storm. The major difference between the two is that the Cyclops Storm is complete DIY kit, (except cam and WTX) while the Matek 405 is more abuild-it-yourself gadget. And then the Matek 405 require some soldering and switching around with cables and plugs. But it sertanly has moore features and possibilities.
I'm sertanly not a trained "solder", and have limitied knowledge in electronics, but I can read a manual and follow a procedure. What do you recommend?
And you are using a variety of servo plugs. Is there a tool that fix the cable to the plug, and where do you buy theese plugs, 2, 3 and 4 pins and tools.
Thanks for very interesting videoes.
"Sev"
Hi Sev. These are the Dupont connectors I bought www.aliexpress.com/item/1450Pcs-Set-2-54mm-Dupont-Connector-Kit-PCB-Headers-Male-Female-Pins-Electronics/32841687530.html There is a crimping tool available but I just use long nose pliers and solder. You would need to practice soldering before taking on the Matek F405, the fine pins are easy but the thick battery wires are more tricky to do nicely. Worth learning the skill anyway. I dont know anything about the Storm FCB but it does look easy to connect up. Interesting project, but flight control boards are not really designed for thermal gliders. Would be better suited to something like a Ranger 2000 with big batteries and long powered flight time.
I've got a clear workbench...
Wish I had a clear schedule.
This FC is going to be great.
Thank you for this video! I just ordered one from amazon. You should post an affiliate link.
This is so relevant I have this fc on the bench right now
Beware cutting the GPS unit cord for shorter length the black is connected to the cable sheath
Yes I did see that.
As always, great video, Andrew! I'm definitely going to order this flight controller. Maybe two, lol. I wanted to share something with you, just in case you weren't aware of it. You can add a Lost Model Buzzer/Beeper to the flight controller and, when the GPS Lock has been acquired, you will get an audible notification. I have set this up on my my two Inav/GPS builds and I very much like having the audible notification. As long as the Buzzer is enabled in the Configuration Tab, Inav does this by default. Take care buddy!!!
Oh I didn't know that. Thanks for the info, I will add a buzzer immediately.
Andrew Newton Excellent!
Andrew, highly suggest modifying the time alarm in the OSD tab, it's defaulted to 10mins which is why it started flashing. Also go to the font uploader in the OSD tab and try Clarity or Vision(in 2.0.0), it will make it far more readable. Good video, one I meant to make but didn't get around to haha
I did mention the time alarm in the video
Another awesome video.
I am stuck with the FPV setup. May I learn your VTX preference for this configuration. On one of your video I watched your positive review about TS5823L, would it be fine to use that? Thanks in advance.
Most of my FPV setups use the 200mW TS5823L Cheap and simple.
Hi Andrew, I would like to ask you a question, I have a Matek 405 v2 for my glider, I use Inav Configurator 6.1.0 and FC Firmware 6.0. I completed it and I even flew it, but only the pitch servo and ailerons work, the rest doesn't work, Inav reads it but they don't respond to the commands... I tried everything, can you recommend something?
Solder bridge the Vx and Vx2 pads. Watch my review of the V2 board
very well explained, thank you.
Watching a year or so later,... had any reliability issues with the Matek F405?
I'm looking at getting one with ImmersionRC long range equipment.
No issues at all, still my favourite board.
Hi Andrew
Think I will give Inav a try!! Probably using a H King Bixler V2 and the Matek F405 which you have described so well..
Do you soft mount your Flight Controllers i.e. Using anti vibration mounts etc??
Perfect combination. I usually mount on firm foam pads but it's not essential as far as I know
iv been using basic multirotor flight controllers in my wings running betaflight,....been awesome
Good to hear they work Kyle
I tried using an Eagletree Vector in this plane but couldn’t get the Vector close enough to the CG due to the limited space in the top rack resulting in pitch instability.
Ordered my F405 - hope I can get it working as well as yours!
This might be a stupid question, but do you need an ESC if you use the Matek 405? I assume the ESC is not needed since the flight controller handles that as well.
Some quad FCs have ESC on board but not the F405. It does have BECs but not ESC
I have this set up in a similar model and when I'm in manual mode the plane wants to roll to the left. To trim this do I have to adjust my servo arm or can you trim this in INAV configurator? Your videos have been extremely helpful!!! Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!!!
The best way is to adjust the aileron push rods, or you can use Auto trim to reset the servo mid points.
Andrew Newton thank you sir!! I did try the auto trim but it didn’t seem to fix the roll. I believe the safest way would be to adjust the pushrods manually. Then I know the plane will fly correctly for sure. Thanks for your help!!
Do you have a video on INAV settings for a plane?thanks a lot,love your videos
57 videos in my inav playlist
I can’t find those 4 pin servo plugs anywhere. Where did you get your from?? What are they called, except 4 pin servo plugs??
Dupont connectors www.banggood.com/Geekcreit-310pcs-2_54mm-Male-Female-Dupont-Wire-Jumper-With-Header-Connector-Housing-Kit-p-1063303.html?
Hi Andrew. Just asking what port was your gps on in inav ports tab please? I am having a lot of trouble getting the fc to recognise the gps. Thanks. Ben
UART4 for GPS with the F405 Wing. Try swapping the Tx and Rx connections, make sure "GPS for nav and Telem" is activated in the config page
Thanks Andrew. Much appreciated. UART 4 corresponds to the TX and RX pads on the flight controller. It is working well now with a Ublox 6mn gps from an old APM. I am using the Matek f405 ctr for this QAV500 quad and have ordered an F405 Wing from your affiliate link for my Bixler project. Many thanks. CP
I have been looking around for the Futaba 4 pin connector that you are using for the GPS and i can't find it anywhere. Perhaps i am searching for the wrong text. Can you point me out in the right direction? Thank you in advance and as always, thank you for posting these amazing videos.
Dupont connector kit on eBay
@@AndrewNewton Andrew thank you. You are amazing!!
Andrew, Can you suggest a Bluetooth module that would be a plug and play that can be used with the 405 flight board and Inav. Some thing that is as simple as possible to set up would be appreciated.
Sorry no idea, have you seen the SpeedyBee dongle?
I am notice that you don’t have any noise or issues on your Fpv screen did you try with 1.2 ?
Just simple 5.8
Andrew, have you ever had the opportunity to explore Ardupilot in comparison to iNav?
Not yet. Don't even know how to implement it yet.
Andrew, I also purchased a Matex and funny I had the same revelation with hooking up and powering the GPS. Too bad I did not watch this first. My only remaining issue is using the Inav OSD. I hooked up the transmitter and camera just like you and great pictures, but no OSD readings. There is probably a small item I missed. Any suggestions?
Have you enabled OSD in iNav configuration page?
@@AndrewNewton I went there and did setup the features and in the modes I setup the OSD SW. I didn't remeber the switch but went back and see that turns it on and off. My error. Thanks.
RadioLink M8N GPS are affordable and excellent and I would imagine the TS100 as well 20+ sats always or well 17 to 20+ anyway more than you need. good value
Thanks for the recommendation.
Hey Andrew. Just starting my build. Interesting, I did what you said and opened the GPS to confirm the wire and terminal alignment. I thought I had an issue with the GPS as the black ground wire (assumed) was frayed. I see it was exactly the same for you (1:33). Not sure why it is, just good to know I’m not alone. I was thinking I would have to rewire it and solder to the terminals. Have you had any issues with the GPS as a result?
It's a shielded cable so the bare ground wires wrap around all the others then come out to the black wire (maybe). No problems with mine so far.
Thanks Andrew. Hadn’t thought that one through. Makes sense ✈️
ordered one, thanks again for taking the time to make these tuts. You try smart audio yet?
I have tried smart audio with an AKK VTx ages ago, but it's not something I use.
Here's the video ruclips.net/video/2jOv5hHUy5c/видео.html
@@AndrewNewton thanks Andrew, I got all my parts coming before my wing I'm going to put it in so I'll have time to play around with it. Hope your move is going well
whelp my f405 order from makerfire was a bust. Apparently they will take your money even if they dont have stock and dont plan on ever getting stock. Ordered up a F722-WPX instead from ready made rc. Ill see you over on that video lol
Frustrating! The F722 is still excellent. Only thing is it can't run Arduplane
Hi Andrew, another great video. Have you considered fitting a 6 position knob on your Taranis for mode selection? I find it much easier than switch combinations.
Not yet, but I can see how it would work very nicely.
Thanks for tour explanatory video. Just a question. I’ve read on the net that the ranger 2000 is really a stable plane (great for fpv) and should not need any stabilization. Do you agree with that? Thanks.
Yes I agree. The Matek board is more for FPV safety, with failsafe return to home and altitude hold. The ranger doesn't need stabilisation
Hello, is it possible to trim my plane (I’m using matek 405 on inav)while I’m flying or I should do it after fly? Tell me pls how to do it, I heard that it is a mistake to trim servos on taranis?
Yes, switch to Manual, activate Auto trim mode while flying, fly level for maybe 30 seconds, trims should adjust themselves, land and disarm. Dont touch the taranis trims.
I can't calibrate my esc or motor with my Matek 405 wing. Sad
How did you make the compass work? My Missionplanner does not detect it. I use arduplane.
No compass connected, it's not recommended for fixed wing iNav. The direction is coming from the GPS and only works when the plane is moving.
Hello , new to rc aircraft, is it possible to run 8 motors with this esc? In other words use the two esc power pads to power four motors each. Its for a school project involving distributed electric propulsion. Ive looked for previous examples and researched the topic through different forums. It seems possible with Y connectors but would appreciate any knowledge you could share on the topic. thanks.
so four esc's wired together using y connecters and plugged into the same channel on the receiver.
Sorry Caleb but I don't know. Usually motors have separate ESCs but I don't know if there is any particular reason.
sorry I meant 8 escs and motors with this flight controller? Have four escs and motros on one wing connected to one of the esc power pads and the other four connected to the second esc power pad.
Ive researched and it seams possible using y splitters and only running the positive lead to one esc and just ground to the other 3.
@@AndrewNewton
I andrew ,in november 2019 , wich is the best choice , Matek F405 or F411 (for volantex ASw28) i send message to you 1 weeks ago on your perfect support for asw28 :-).thanks very much for answer
F405 Wing has more servo outputs and better FPV video filtering.
@@AndrewNewton thank you very much Andrew for answer.i wish you very good flight
Hi Andrew, on the Matek wiring page it says that left & right Ailerons go on S4 & S5. Does this mean that they need to be plugged in separately or can I use either S4 or S5 on a Y lead ? Trust your fingers are recovering, had a look at them on your Community Tab, boy that had to hurt big time :) Cheers, Pete
Y lead is fine. Only need separate channels for flaperon function
@@AndrewNewton Thanks Andrew, that's what I thought but I knew you would know :) Regards, Pete
I have this installed in a SonicModell AR Wing. Everything works well except for one very annoying bug. The OSD drops out intermittently several times during the flight. The video is solid, but the OSD drops out. I have triple checked everything and even replaced the flight controller but the problem persists.
I am not using the 5 volts from the ESC but am powering the board through the battery voltage only. I'm ready to pull out the F405 and go back to an OmnibusF4.
Some cameras just dont like the OSD overlay. Makes sure PAL / NTSC selections match up, and VTx and camera share the same ground.
@@AndrewNewton Problem solved thanks to you getting me to look in the right direction. I simply changed out my camera from a Biteye SA-A3161 to a CaddexTurbo Micro F1. Interestingly enough, although the Biteye specs state PAL and NTSC, there is no adjustment in their OSD menu for video format. In INAV, I always select Auto for video format and never have had a problem.
Again, thank you very much Andrew for your suggestion.
Any plans on flashing the F405 with Arduplane? Always great content! Thank you for putting it all together for us!
Ha, unlikely, I'm still catching up with iNav
Quick question - does the board provide enough current for all servos, vtx & camera ?? - I read the F411 is not good enough, so wondered if the F405 is any better - thx !
Oh yes. The BEC for servos is 5V 6A, that's better than any other BEC I have used
Thanks to your review i might get one but can it be flashed with ardupilot
Also have you a video on how to install ardupilot on a windows pc and gave up trying yesterday but managed to get mission planner to work which is interesting program to play about with
Yes F405 can but I have not tried myself. F722 board can't. I only have Macs and only iNav
@@AndrewNewton Thanks
Did you know some cats have a Kangaroo mode lol ruclips.net/video/OMOY9lnjZVA/видео.html
Question, Andrew - my Ranger has the left/right ailerons joined into one plug. On the iNav mixer it shows that they have to go to S4 & S5. Do I have to change to separate cables and connect them individually? Thanks.
Good question. Cant see why it wouldn't work, but I have not tried it. Something to test
It will work both ways, but better to use two outputs from the FC. This way your ailerons can also be flaperons. You can set this up in INAV
Hi Andrew are you using Y-harness for aileron and flaps when using Matek 405 wing?
Separate ailerons and flaps direct from the receiver. Not tested yet, waiting for less wind
Great results for the board maiden. Do you have any way of getting analogue RSSI into the osd? I've heard it may have been forgotten at design stage..
I'm sure it's possible but I have never looked into it. It's on the list
Andrew, How does it cope with wind? As it has no air speed indicator, flying down wind could be an issue??
It adjusts throttle to maintain altitude in the auto pilot GPS modes, and in the other modes it's manual throttle control.
did you try auto launch ? i'm about to maiden my z-84. looking back i'd go for f411 wing for weight saving
I have with previous iNav setups but I dont find it useful now.
What’s going on with RSSI? Nice video by the way. I tried setting up inav on a nano talon recently and pretty much took a sledgehammer to the board after a week of nothing but frustrations. I’m considering getting this board instead of trying another Omnibus F4 which imo is ridiculously cumbersome. I really want a vector but money may be an issue with that board being it’s almost $250US! I haven’t really decided. I am definitely getting this plane and ordering it in two days but for the flight board I prefer something that’s not going to take me days or possibly weeks to get configured. I’ve been using APM and pixhawk for a few years on Multicopter but never planes. I may just throw one of my spare pixhawks or even an Apm in.
No RSSI on my OSD, might be looking at throttle percentage?
Thank you for the great video. I just received the same FC and will Mount it in a ranger 2000. How long are Your leads from FC to the battery and from FC to the ESC ? Can you show how you mounted the FC inside the plane?
I will use a Frsky L9R in SBUS, but how can i get the RSSI from this to the FC ( setup in inav)
Battery lead is 8" and ESC 6" I just set up RSSI from an X8R for the first time. All you need is a single wire from the RSSI pin on the Rx to the RSSI pin on the board. Then enable RSSI in the OSD (I think, haven't tried it in the air yet) I'll do a follow up video soon
is there a name for the 4 pin plugs or a link where to buy them
DuPont connectors - www.ebay.com.au/p/610pcs-Housing-Connector-Pin-Male-female-Crimp-Pins-Kit-for-Dupont/5022439451?iid=273399094957&chn=ps
You need to plug a GPS unit in? The board won't work without it? I'm looking at getting this board just for the osd and autolevel and was planning on adding in gps and that sort of thing later on. Can i use the board without a gps?
Yes, GPS is an option, not essential
Hello Andrew...I have a question...using inav can I have the board hooked up to my laptop and have the board powered up using the lipo battery and have to gps hooked up at the same time ?
Yes, you have to connect it all up like that if you want to see the GPS working in iNav configurator.
@@AndrewNewton thank you Andrew !! Hope to have it up and running soon ..thank you for all your videos !!
Good video. I have exactly same setup. Just one question, During your first RTH trial, why do you think the plane was going left and right instead of coming straight at you?
Maybe the cruise throttle was too low (1400) for the climb rate, and there was a headwind? Needs more testing
Andrew Newton Thanks Andrew,
One request, it would be very helpful if you can do a video on configuration of airspeed sensor for this plane. There are almost no videos out there on this topic. Thanks.
So does this mean the 411 board is not as good? Dam As I bought 2.
Also do you need to swap rx and tx with GPS same as the 405?
F411 Wing is a good board. Just that it is not filtered on the FPV feed and ESC noise shows if you power the ESC through it. It's not terrible and can be reduced with an LC filter. Video is clean if you dont connect the ESC to the board, which means you dont have current sensing. F405 Wing is the best
@@AndrewNewtonRX/TX gps on f411 SWAP yes or no?
Cheers Andrew . Gone from not wanting/intrested in APs to a wealth of knowledge.
You the man.
Yes, that's always the way with UART connections. Rx goes to Tx and Tx goes to Rx
@@AndrewNewton Thanks mate. Just watching your f411 Video as I type. Your getting slick cobber dont forget the small peope on your way up! :-)
Quik question, Do I need to set up in my radio a plane or swing?in case that I have a wing.
Basic plane with no mixing, no expo, no rates. Just 100% throttle, 100% aileron, 100% elevator. Here's my blog post that gives more details. newtonairlines.blogspot.com/2017/10/inav-fixed-wing-tips.html
Andrew what are your gps settings in iNav? Baudrate etc..
Baud Rate 115200 - 7.20 mark in the first Matek video ruclips.net/video/1fINn_ttSv8/видео.html That'was all the GPS setup required
Great Video Andrew, just ordered a wing and flight controller is the way forward for me, cheers ( new Subscriber)
Fun times and heaps of learning ahead.
hello, is the osd built in to the FC?
Yes, it's the AT7456E chip
Hi Andrew,
Nice flights. Is that the Monster Mini FPV camera you were using?
Yes, nice camera
Nice one Andrew!!!!! Mine is a few days away. Have you worked out how to get crow yet????
Not yet. I think I can have flaps straight from the X8R as long as I free up one of the channels. Will probably be easier with the next iNav release.
Yes. Flaps directly from the receiver. I know you like to use 2 channels for flaps. I slum it and use 1. Having used pixhawks in the past I now love the versatility of the modes of Inav. I have a couple of Furious F35 lightning flight controllers. I found the aileron servos needed the polarity changing to stop the FC turning the plane onto it's back. Guess what happens to flaperons when that happens. (Crow) I wonder if that could be induced by swapping the aileron leads??? I like your videos. I think a lot of other folk do as well. Please keep them coming and if this little tip is useful ……… Go for it. Garry G
Brilliant Garry, I can see how to do it now, thanks mate. Flaps on a slider direct from the X8R and iNav flaperons upside down on the same slider.
Bingo!! Show us in a video
I discovered the flaperon/crow purely by accident. Or rather to stop an accident. Further to the thought of swapping aileron leads. I have one of banggoods cheaper options for the f35 FC as well as the 2 "genuine" F35 kits. The 2 "genuine" F35s require the aileron servos' polarity to be swapped for the FC to react properly. The cheap one does not. I haven't checked this yet (but am going to) I wonder how the FC would react to swapped aileron leads????? If things were set up to match would the FC notice the "fiddle"
Is it possible to set up a Spektrum Satellite Receiver on a Matek F405-Wing board? If so can someone show me how?
which hex file did you use ?
There's no F405-WING:
github.com/iNavFlight/inav/releases
Look on the bottom of the board, or on the Matek page
could you please send me your dump? must look for my mistake why it goes banking to much at loiter after rth and overshoots then every time
Sure. Email?
Have got the Matek F405 too.....but seems to be something wrong. Pos hold wirks very well, but the plane won't return to home....
Frustrating. Recheck your setup from the beginning, make sure the GPS is marking the home position.
@@AndrewNewton Homeposition at Arming and Arrow to Home looks fine. tomorrow i'll try again... could imagine that there is a issue with the max angles in navigation modes.... today was frustrating. Crahsed my 9" into the woods....lost a 100€ 4 inch....and my 5 inch quad is toilett bowling as hell :D
do you know how engage the return to home?
Of course. What have you tried?
good flight can you une this on any plane?
Yes, maybe not a micro
ok
I am making an airplane.I am using three 1000Kv BLDC with 10×5 propeller.Weight of airplane is 4Kg.Wing is 3 feet long and 2inch chord.
Can I fly it?
Show me a photo or video
Thanks for your reply.
I don't have pictures of the airplane because I am still building the airplane.
I just want to know that I can fly airplane.
What is your opinion?
I would need to see the design before I can give an opinion.
How can I send you picture of my airplane
What do you mean trim it mechanically?
Are this coming with esc integrated?
The Matek only had BECs integrated, not an ESC
Andrew Newton thanks I see the manual online I am pretty new to this FC and not sure to buy it, is that easy to set up?
Are you sure that gps is 5v because I bought the same one and it calls for 3 volts.
I'll ask Matt Ogbourne about that, he mentioned it in one of his iNav videos
The answer is - It has a voltage regulator chip to reduce the input voltage down to 3.3V for the GPS unit. So 5v (and even higher) is OK
Andrew Newton yup watched a few videos 3v - 5v is fine. Thanks man
Is the f411 setup the same as this one?
Haven't used the F411
Bandito Fpv essentially yes. I have both. The 411 has only 2 Uarts and no blackbox. But it's much better for small flying wings that don't have flaps and pan and tilt and all that kind of stuff.
NoAgenda FPV ok thanks I’m have the f411 and it’s going into my wife’s rite wing hc44 that isn’t running gps or anything like that, just fpv gear and receiver. Really just want something to keep her stable on launch.
No Inav set up as per title ???
Yes misleading sorry. More INAV setup in my other initial F405-Wing video
What about hooking up flaps?
Have done that. Look at the iNav playlist
Does it have rssi and barometer?
RSSI is from the receiver and barometer is in the GPS
I mean does it have rsssi port
Yes it does, check the Matek website
I shake too much to put together one... Old ya know Andrew. :( Looks like you're getting rain like we are still.
Not as much rain as you luckily
Wettest Jul;y in recorded history of Baltimore... Ugh. Finally got to fly Sunday though. Felt good. :)
Andrew. (Got it right twice now). How do you set the home position, for the RTH operation.
Haha well done Barry. RTH is set automatically when it arms
nav_extra_arming_safety=OFF will allow you to arm even without GPS fix
Thanks Martin, great tip
Martin Šupík Not recommended though, as it can cause flyWay plane :)
Is there a loiter feature?
Yes, it's a combination of position hold + altitude hold
@@AndrewNewton is it as easy to setup inav as it is w/ betaflight?
Almost identical
Can't wait to try my F405 Andrew, had it a while. Tip...put the crosshair on your OSD, this way you can tell how good your Pitch trim status is (Board Trim) when flying in Horizon. The AHI should pass thru centre as the plane cruises along in Horizon Mode.
I need a model with Rudder to test its full potential as Im pretty sure iNAV will use both Ailerons AND Rudder during GPS Modes like RTH. It looked like it was over controlling a bit on your first RTH attempt?
One of the most impressive things about your clip for me was the nice clean Video Link, even though this FC has a current counter on it. You really should try and fly in Horizon / Alt Hold more, it's by far the laziest Modes to have engaged...lol.
Im assuming the Rudder is gyro stabilised?...you didn't really focus on it?
Great bird to do the testing with......More please.
Thanks to your comments in the past, if I was heading off down the coast for a distance test I would use Alt Hold and Horizon, and yes the rudder is stabilised too. More testing needed, may have been the wind causing the side to side seeking on that first RTH, or insufficient throttle. 15kn wind up there.
For a test flight it was pretty good Andrew. I think on the first RTH it was trying to climb a bit too steep for the power level setup, and then it kind of turned off the stall each time..?
I usually have RTH set at 100 mtrs and then 30 bank, 15 Climb , 5 Dive...usually works okay.
Like to see it fly again in RTH to see if its using Rudder...?
Thinking of putting it in my Skywalker 1900, but Rudder is essential for this one, its adverse yaw is terrible.
""its adverse yaw is terrible."" Maybe try some aileron differential??
Hi, yes.....Aileron diff is not enough on the SW1900...I used Aileron and Rudder mix which cured it very nicely. my Storm AP does not have Rudder on it though, so this FC would cure that problem.
I have the impression that it is not very stable given the size of the plane and the stabilized mode the result is average I find
I dont pay much attention to the stabilisation, only the GPS features
Screw the f.c..thats one beautiful airplane.
It is a superior motor glider
Yep they dont make setting up flaps easy do They, still scratching my head
I have a solution of sorts, I'm plugging flaps directly into Ch8 on my X8R and not using Ch8 via SBUS on the MATEK board. Video coming as soon as I can test fly the setup. I suspect iNav 2.0 will make all this easier.
Andrew Newton finally worked it out mate! Need to create another input channel on your taranis for flaps, then in inav on the mixer tab create a new rule for the channel that you created in your taranis as the source and modify it on the servos tab :)
Excellent. I'll try it soon too.
hello andrew, currently what autopilot system would you recommend for a plane or wing, for long range fpv?
I was thinking about miniapm or pixracer with Mission planner but after watching this video I do not know if this plate or another one with inav can be a good / better option.
Best regards
This one is the best so far for me. iNav is the only system I have tried.
suggestion: connect an external compass(or the one on the gps module) to the FC using i2c. INAV require a compass to enable funtions such as return-to-home(RTH) mode. github.com/iNavFlight/inav/blob/master/docs/Navigation.md#nav-rth---return-to-home-mode
Not for fixed wing, in fact it is not recommended
From the WIKI
If your compass is not 100% properly setup just disable it instead. A calibrated compass can cause orientation drift during flight that may not show up in the configurator(especially built-in ones on your FC). Really consider disabling it unless you need it. INAV uses GPS heading normally, Only on ground before GPS speed has been high enough or if error between GPS heading and compass heading exceed 60deg will it use compass heading
Hello there, hey one quest how do you avoid this issues with the matek FC? Hers the link of the video I’ll appreciate all your help ruclips.net/video/NkkuISNQNkE/видео.html
I doubt it's the board, I haven't had any problems with the F405 or F411. Camera or VTx too close to the ESC?
Andrew Newton actually they are very far I need to do more research thanks
Hi,
Is it possible to have 2 lanes for yaw and 2 lanes for flaps ?
I would like butterfly braking.
Is it possible with inav?
Thx
Yes with iNav 2.0 I think it's possible. I have flaps working but not the "up ailerons" part. I will make a video when I get it working.