It's honestly sad cause Alphadream really shot themselves in the foot with Paper Jam and then they started releasing remakes for a handheld that was about to be phased out by the Switch... They might've stuck around if they released the remakes on the Switch instead of the aging 3DS
LA Noire is a great game that was made under awful conditions. It's a shame that we'll never see a sequel of some kind but I can't feel bad for the developers shutting down.
The first half or so was amazing. When the Vice storyline started is when the game got boring. Just bad shooter segments, bad tailing segments and the storylines were nowhere near as interesting or engaging as the homocides.
They had actually created a demo for an LA Noire spiritual sequel. It would've had the same gameplay, but it would've been a mystery set in Bangkok. But when Bondi shut down, the demo never got developed any further. Which is such a damn shame. Obviously Bondi deserved to go out of business. But I really wish somebody had bought the rights to that sequel. LA Noire was amazing, and even if the Bangkok sequel wasn't as good, I have no question it would've been at least fascinating to see what else could be done with the same mystery mechanics.
Curt always had a sense of entitlement. When he got called up to the Orioles, he showed up with streaks shaved in his hair and an earring. Frank Robinson told him he wasn't pitching until he got a haircut and took out his earring.
As someone who is a Rhode Island native, AND a sports fan, Kingdoms of Amalur being partially responsible for 38 Studios' shut down and being part of the reason (in my opinion) that Schilling went off the deep end still hurts me
Every time I see Curt Schilling, I remember this quote by former GM Ed Wade of the Phillies: "Schilling is a horse every fourth day, and a horse's ass the other three"
With Luminous Productions recently being shut down and absorbed into Square Enix due to how hard Forspoken bombed (and reportedly costing them a hundred *MILLION* dollars, good hecking lord), this’s definitely the perfect time for this video lol.
The "good" thing about Luminous is that they were already part of Square and the team was reallocate to other groups within the very same building. Hopefully there was no lay-offs but it is always sad when a company closes.
One day I hope the story of how that studio was ran comes out, and whatever the behind the scenes issues were that lead FF15 to get so unceremoniously shut down and Forespoken to turn out the way it did. Were they sabotaged by management, was it the devs themselves that couldn't hack it, or both? One day...
Oh I remember Check Six meeting the same fate after Spyro Enter the Dragonfly. While Equinoxe also shut down along with them because of the same game, CS has one very interesting aspect to it that I want to mention later. But I do feel bad for both companies; they were forced to make the 4th Spyro games in time for Christmas 2002. Mind you, a mere 2 years after the Insomniac era ended. Universal Studio had a lot more say over the development and it seemed to kill any chance of it being good, though also the fact that no one involved had experience making things for the Gamecube didn't help. When lead Joel Goodsell wanted to make Spyro more steampunk like Universal said "make it more Spyro." When they decided to add in Gnasty Gnorc and Ripto in response (though only the latter would be in the final product), Universal said "make it more special." Because of the troubles they were given, they were struggling financially and couldn't make the frame rate stable. All that is just a few examples of how screwed they were to the point of causing Goodsell to leave after Universal sent in Ricci Rukavina. It was really, really rough and rather upsetting, and would explain why the end product is so unfinished. Only 8 levels and a single hub world; even Spyro 1 had a lot more than that. It was their only game they released mostly because they had to cancel the other project they were working on at the exact same time. What project was that? None other than Aliens Colonial Marines which would later be made by Gearbox and apparently an outsource studio. That's right, Spyro is linked to one of the worst licensed games ever. Check Six and Equinox went under very quickly following the release while Universal still thrives to this day, for better or worse. While Ted Price was embarrassed to see what happened to their purple boy, Goodsell blamed lack of experience at the time, stating that stuff like this should be entrusted to the right people. But there's still hope, because he got to work on one of my favorite superhero based games, Spider Man on the PS4. Good luck, Spider Man 2; I'm counting on you. But all that is just the tip of the iceberg, just examples of why Enter the Dragonfly was so bad it destroyed the companies before they could get their footing. Go watch Matt McMuscles "What Happened" on it.
Actually, Universal didn't have much on the side of their interactive division after the Vivendi merger. It went over to Havas/VU Games following that, so essentually Universal Interactive was just a publishing label of Vivendi Universal Games, so they were to blame for how Enter the Dragonfly ended up how it did, and how Crash Twinsanity was how it was, and everything else. And plus, they don't even exist anymore following the Activision merger. I did hear that even when they were a Universal Pictures subsidiary, Universal Interactive were very hard to work with, to the point that the arguments they had with Naughty Dog and Insomniac Games were mostly ridden with tirades of four-letter words. Also, the Colonial Marines PS2 title that Check Six was developing has no connection to the Gearbox disaster that came out in 2013.
I thought you would mention AlphaDream creators of the very successful Mario and Luigi series. That was an infamous closure that many people arr still sad about today.
@@jameslawrenson1208 TBH part of me hopes they don't so they can go back and fix whatever the hell Paper Mario has become. Cause the only reason why Paper Mario became what it did is cause they wanted the M & L series to be their 'RPG' series.
@@Altoryu Origami King wasn't too bad, in fact I'd say it was good. Only real complaint was the removal of unique characters. Which if/when they make the next Paper Mario game they actually make the characters unique again like in the first three
@@HallowedKeeper_ I argue that it still defeats the purpose of encounters since there is no exp or such so aside from I dunno money for whatever that bought you what is the point of combat in the game. Not to mention the fact they decided to make a literal 'turn based' battle system? Feels like just a troll to me. I personally would rather see Paper Mario return to form then to bring back the Mario and Luigi series. And yes I tried one of the games but I just couldn't enjoy it compared to the OG Paper Mario games. Heck I still enjoyed Super Paper Mario more then the game that I tried (I think it was Dream Team Bros) But I dunno that's just how I feel about the whole affair.
It doesn't surprise me one bit. Alphadream was already doomed before they released it. It was a last-ditch attempt to avert their inevitable bankruptcy.
Silicon Knights might have had troubles even before trying to sue Epic, they already had a kerfuffle with Crystal Dynamics over the creation of the original Blood Omen. And one of the most fascinating things about Daikatana is that the Gameboy Color port is a Zelda clone and it is actually fun??? And I got the rom from Romero's own site. Yes, he had the dump of the rom and distributed it freely because apparently the game was PAL-only.
I'm just happy the Amalur was finally acquired by THQnordic cause after the studio closed the rights to the game went to the state of Rhode Island who (orginally at the time) only wanted to sell for a ridiculous amount of money no publisher was willing to fork over I don't know if THQnordic decided to pay it, or if Rhode Island decided to lower the price, but I'm guessing the latter
Whenever I think of this sort of thing, the one game that always comes to my mind is Okami, the sales of which I heard lead to Capcom promptly shutting down Clover Studio.
[in a sinister voice] Rabbidluigi. How dare you invoke the name of my nemesis. Curt Schilling. I went to college for game design (which has not panned for me), and my college used to have some kind of relationship with 38 Studios and Curt Schilling. They'd help sponsor Game Jams and have representatives at the school when they occurred. The idea was to recruit people from my school to 38 Studios, and for a while, the relationship seemed pretty good. One year, 38 Studios showed up to a job fair on campus. I didn't really attend this job fair, but I heard rumors from one of my professors that the representatives from 38 Studios were apparently not intending to recruit anyone from my school that year. That was around the time they were focused on Rhode Island, so they were really looking to recruit from that area. So then... if you aren't going to try to recruit from this state, why are you even at a JOB FAIR?! Maybe it was just heresay, but it left a bad taste in my mouth about that company. And I actually did have at least one classmate who would go work for 38 Studios, and after 38 Studios shut down, it felt like the game industry in my region generally took a downturn. So yeah, I didn't care much about Schilling back when he was playing baseball (I don't always pay attention to indivdual players), but after what happened with 38 Studios, I quickly grew to hate him. And all that happened before he started simping for "the tremendous pumpkin". Lesser note: even Blizzard had to work their way up from smaller projects to the point of making an MMORPG, and you're trying to do that as your FIRST game? (referring to Copernicus, not Amalur)
Shoutout to epic mickey 2, which caused disney to shut down Junction point and now disney interactive studios will only make Kingdom hearts games, which is a shame since I loved epic mickey and wanted to see their potential 3rd game and spinoffs
Ion Storm seems like a contradiction. Best and Worst game in the same year? How? Well, the answer is actually rather simple. Two different development teams. Ion Storm Austin was where Specter worked his magic and Ion Storm Dallas was where Romero fucked his.
Unfortunately, an example I’m all too familiar with is Dead Rising 4 shutting Capcom Vancouver. Even though I didn’t think DR4 was a bad game, they shut down just about a year and a half after it released, and killed the series in the process. I would love it if the franchise could come back in some way, but it doesn’t seem likely.
I would absolutely love for Dead Rising to make a come back (after all, CapGod is back, for the most part), but they need to make sure it's good. Saying that DR4 isn't a bad game is... certainly a take.
Yeah the whole reason why Capcom Vancouver got closed down is because they got tired working on Dead Rising and wanted to stretch the wings, wanted to create more than just Dead Rising, Capcom refused to budge, people started leaving and to get people to work at your studio for a very niche type of game is an absolute nightmare and is something the former studio knew all too well, we lost a Dino Crisis pitch god darn it because of Capcom being the way they were.
Seriously if Dead Rising came back at all, I think taking the first game cutting the awkward fat that makes the Dead Rising Steak, in this case the Jank, like to switch between missions on the menu doesn't pause the game, so if you try to do that while in a mob of Zombies, well yeah rough, I did end up enjoying Off the Record a lot more than 2 which is a copy of the 1st game with some improvements, Off the Record felt like they found the right balance of fun gameplay while still keeping the jank that DR is known for, like if we got Dead Rising 1&2 but it borrows the improvements from Off the Record, I could actually enjoy those Dead Rising games for once along with a majority of people that never gave the games a chance, if the PS4 version of Shadow of the Colossus could do better with just improved controls alone, who's to say something similar could happen to Dead Rising.
What about Saints Row (2022)- Volition Studios Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5- Robomodo Forspoken- Luminous Productions Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1+2- Vicarious Visions Call Of Duty Advanced Warfare- Neversoft?
I figured there was going to at least be an honorable mention for Forspoken. I mean, it’s even getting the Atari ET treatment. Where there are a whole piles of the steel box additions, being found in landfills. And oh yeah, the game company responsible for it is being absorbed back into square Enix.
Daikatana and Deus Ex were not made by the same studio per se ( Ion Storm Dallas for Dai and Ion Storm Austin for Deus Ex) Daikatana were butchered mostly because Romero was a nightmare to work with
Sigh it's sad really with the behind the scenes with LA Noire development. I really liked the game and considered it one of the most underrated games ever in existence. It goes to show that even the best of something can have some ugly truths behind it. Would of liked another game but it's most likely that won't happen. Shame really.
@@Waffletigercat Because people often throw that word around where it doesn't belong by using it synonymously with words that it's not synonymous with.
Fascinating. I learned a lot since I wasn’t aware of any of these. When think of developers going out after a game I think of Chibi Robo Ziplash and M&L BiS+.
Even though it didn't shut down a studio, Metal Slander Glory: Directors Cut 2000 on the Super Famicom saw HAL lose their rights and become a 2nd party developer for Nintendo.
forspoken and balan wonderworld presumably would do so badly that square-enix pre-emptively made separate studios to cushion the blow away from their main franchises. that's basically giving a baby brother a disconnected controller and saying "they're helping"
I'm not sure about that- Forespoken's studio already existed long before Forespoken, but the game they worked on (Final Fantasy XV) had SUCH a messy development-history that Forespoken ended up becoming their "make it or break it"-moment. Balan Wonderworld MAYBE, because Naka did say from the start that it was his final chance at making a game the way he wanted to make it (he presumably couldn't get funding from any other company), but I feel like if they gave hkm that money they can't have INTENDED it to fail. Like, Naka had no history with SE, this wasn't a favor for old times sake, they had to have seen SOMETHING in it to invest the money they did... but since all they got from that was a bunch of headlines on how Naka insider-traded a bunch of their mobile games, I think it was money they could've spent on other things.
@@goranisacson2502 honestly, i kind of forgot that they existed before then. news sites seemed to make it sound like the studio was made specifically for the game. i guess either the studio shut down because of Forspoken, or maybe it was a more wiser use of resources to absorb it back into the main Square-Enix portion since XV is so old now?
@@PluckyInc Most likely the latter. See, that studio uses the Luminous Engine they made as a sequel for the FF 13 project's engine Crystal Tools (which was then called the Fabula Nova Crystalis-project), and was meant to be an open-world game engine. I can't remember if this engine was problematic in some specific way, but if I were to speculate- they have done two games in Unreal engine (KH3 and FF7 remake), and they're not using Luminous (or Unreal) for FF16. It would seem to me that they simply think Luminous is not a worthwhile investment if they can instead transition the workforce into the far easier Unreal engine, and make games with less troublesome development and a better return.
My mistake. It wasn't Team Bondi. It was a bunch of former devs from Team Bondi under a new name. "KMM". They were going to release this game called "Whore of the Orient" around 2015 with WB Games publishing. But no gameplay was ever shown and it was confirmed to be canceled in 2016.
While it's completely Justified why Rockstar shut down Team Bondi but let's not kid our self here,Rockstar is probably just as much worse if not more so than Team Bondi themselves. It's just unlike Team Bondi,They are just way too rich and got the money to run away from their problems unscathed.
Battlefield hardline was actually really fun but because people refused to give it a chance, EA shut down the dead space Devs who made hardline. The dead space remake was made by a different studio under EA and the ex dead space Devs made Callisto protocol.
What about Alphadream? The company behind the Mario&Luigi RPG series? Them releasing the remake of Bowser Inside Story on the 3DS drove them into bankruptcy. Because I assume the reason the 3DS was a dying generation of gaming hardware at that time, having the Switch released already. Same reason why the game Joy Mech Fight sold poorly as a regular Famicom game when the Super Famicom was already released by then: Releasing a game on older hardware when newer gaming system hardware was already released by then
In the case of LA Noir it was Brendan McNamara who was respinsoble for the majority of this. That guy is of the opinion that you basicly have work yourselfs to dearh in thr games industrie. DO NOT WORK FOR HIM, AT ANY CASE. I'm serious if you see a job listing where Brendan McNamara works at, do not apply or accept an offer, this guy is notorious for his workplace abuse.
Hey Luigi.... Do you not remember command and conquer renegade killing Westwood studios, one of the biggest gaming companies in the 90's and invented the real time strategy genre in 93 with dune 2
Vicariuos Visions was too successful with their remakes of Crash Bandicoot, Tony Hawk 1 & 2, and Diablo 2 that they were fully merged into Blizzard becoming Blizzard Albany
I have said it before and I will say it again: God Hand was a good game and it deserves a remake/remaster of some sort. Oh, and Gene deserves a spot in the next Project X Zone... or Marvel vs Capcom... just... anything.
Radical Heighs was actually a Bussin idea with so much potential. 80s game show style Battle royale?? Hell yeah that sounds lit! Such a shame it was doomed to fail
I was sorry to see 3do taken down after Heroes of might and magic 4. The series was bought up by Ubisoft, and one of the best strategy games.in history has been limping on ever since.
@@s.p.d.magentaranger1822 I saw the title of the video and assumed that it was inspired atleast by forspokens latest L, and would likely have it appear. Colour me surprised
Probably cause the devs weren't very distinguished in the first place, they only had two games under their belt and neither was all that special (and I say that as someone who likes both games). So putting Luminous on the list would be recency bias when compared to more notable examples.
Sorry to be _that_ person, but as someone from Australia it's pronounced Bond-eye, not Bond-ee, and every time you keep saying "Bond-ee" my brain dies a little XD
I'm surprised not to see Angel of Darkness here Tomb Raider Angel of Darkness was made in the era where Core Design were sick of Tomb Raider and Lara Croft, to the point where they tried to kill Lara in The Last Revelation but when that was enough, they cheaply pushed out Chronicles (Which I'd argue is worse than Angel of Darkness honestly) However then Core did get a bit of hope for Tomb Raider when the PS2 came out and so came the gruelling development of Angel of Darkness which cost them everything and they needed to succeed to keep in order to stay afloat. However the game was buggy, one of its features was underbaked and even with the tie in release of the classic Tomb Raider movies, the game sold extremely poorly resulting in the shutdown of Core Design and the Tomb Raider license would be given to Crystal Dynamics TLDR: Tomb Raider Angel of Darkness is an example of what if Final Fantasy 7 didn't succeed
over the past 3-4 years i've lost all interest in gaming but i did complete Kingdom of Amalur last year for the third time, so sad it's a very good game
Another game that is super forgotten indestructible which was a fan favorite game and one of the best car game on mobile. Made by glu that has gotten greedy.
They indeed were, and Clover would definitely be a good choice since GH’s negative reception along with Okami’s lackluster sales despite how long and expensive it was to make are what ultimately resulted in it shutting down.
Surprised Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey wasn't mentioned in this list.
Alpha Dream was on a downfall for awhile before that happened. Started with Paper Jam.
Why are you surprised that a list of five games only contained five games? Absolutely pointless comment.
@@OrgaNik_MusicOh shut up this isnt twitter, leave your cynism there
It's honestly sad cause Alphadream really shot themselves in the foot with Paper Jam and then they started releasing remakes for a handheld that was about to be phased out by the Switch... They might've stuck around if they released the remakes on the Switch instead of the aging 3DS
@@OrgaNik_Music most of these lists tend to have honorable mentions…
LA Noire is a great game that was made under awful conditions. It's a shame that we'll never see a sequel of some kind but I can't feel bad for the developers shutting down.
The first half or so was amazing. When the Vice storyline started is when the game got boring. Just bad shooter segments, bad tailing segments and the storylines were nowhere near as interesting or engaging as the homocides.
They had actually created a demo for an LA Noire spiritual sequel. It would've had the same gameplay, but it would've been a mystery set in Bangkok. But when Bondi shut down, the demo never got developed any further. Which is such a damn shame. Obviously Bondi deserved to go out of business. But I really wish somebody had bought the rights to that sequel. LA Noire was amazing, and even if the Bangkok sequel wasn't as good, I have no question it would've been at least fascinating to see what else could be done with the same mystery mechanics.
Technically Rockstar could do a sequel but we all know that they will probally never do one since they have problem to release 1 game these day.
Maybe do games that SAVED game studios from shutting down.
NieR Automata from Platinum Games, for example.
I think Final Fantasy 1 might also come under that umbrella
For every push, there is a pull.
Fire Emblem: Awakening could be a good contender!
FFXIV:- A Realm Reborn and Yoshi-P single handily saved Square Enix from Bankruptcy.
Curt always had a sense of entitlement. When he got called up to the Orioles, he showed up with streaks shaved in his hair and an earring. Frank Robinson told him he wasn't pitching until he got a haircut and took out his earring.
I got secondhand embarrassment lol, because my family is from Maryland and are huge Orioles fans. We deserve better.
As someone who is a Rhode Island native, AND a sports fan, Kingdoms of Amalur being partially responsible for 38 Studios' shut down and being part of the reason (in my opinion) that Schilling went off the deep end still hurts me
The Stories of Silicon Knights and 38 studios are honestly wild.
Every time I see Curt Schilling, I remember this quote by former GM Ed Wade of the Phillies: "Schilling is a horse every fourth day, and a horse's ass the other three"
As an Aussie, your pronunciation of Bondi made me chuckle haha bond-eye
With Luminous Productions recently being shut down and absorbed into Square Enix due to how hard Forspoken bombed (and reportedly costing them a hundred *MILLION* dollars, good hecking lord), this’s definitely the perfect time for this video lol.
The "good" thing about Luminous is that they were already part of Square and the team was reallocate to other groups within the very same building. Hopefully there was no lay-offs but it is always sad when a company closes.
One day I hope the story of how that studio was ran comes out, and whatever the behind the scenes issues were that lead FF15 to get so unceremoniously shut down and Forespoken to turn out the way it did. Were they sabotaged by management, was it the devs themselves that couldn't hack it, or both? One day...
And now it’s happened with both Saint’s Row and Gollum too…..
Oh I remember Check Six meeting the same fate after Spyro Enter the Dragonfly. While Equinoxe also shut down along with them because of the same game, CS has one very interesting aspect to it that I want to mention later. But I do feel bad for both companies; they were forced to make the 4th Spyro games in time for Christmas 2002. Mind you, a mere 2 years after the Insomniac era ended. Universal Studio had a lot more say over the development and it seemed to kill any chance of it being good, though also the fact that no one involved had experience making things for the Gamecube didn't help. When lead Joel Goodsell wanted to make Spyro more steampunk like Universal said "make it more Spyro." When they decided to add in Gnasty Gnorc and Ripto in response (though only the latter would be in the final product), Universal said "make it more special." Because of the troubles they were given, they were struggling financially and couldn't make the frame rate stable. All that is just a few examples of how screwed they were to the point of causing Goodsell to leave after Universal sent in Ricci Rukavina. It was really, really rough and rather upsetting, and would explain why the end product is so unfinished. Only 8 levels and a single hub world; even Spyro 1 had a lot more than that. It was their only game they released mostly because they had to cancel the other project they were working on at the exact same time. What project was that? None other than Aliens Colonial Marines which would later be made by Gearbox and apparently an outsource studio. That's right, Spyro is linked to one of the worst licensed games ever. Check Six and Equinox went under very quickly following the release while Universal still thrives to this day, for better or worse. While Ted Price was embarrassed to see what happened to their purple boy, Goodsell blamed lack of experience at the time, stating that stuff like this should be entrusted to the right people. But there's still hope, because he got to work on one of my favorite superhero based games, Spider Man on the PS4. Good luck, Spider Man 2; I'm counting on you. But all that is just the tip of the iceberg, just examples of why Enter the Dragonfly was so bad it destroyed the companies before they could get their footing. Go watch Matt McMuscles "What Happened" on it.
Actually, Universal didn't have much on the side of their interactive division after the Vivendi merger. It went over to Havas/VU Games following that, so essentually Universal Interactive was just a publishing label of Vivendi Universal Games, so they were to blame for how Enter the Dragonfly ended up how it did, and how Crash Twinsanity was how it was, and everything else. And plus, they don't even exist anymore following the Activision merger.
I did hear that even when they were a Universal Pictures subsidiary, Universal Interactive were very hard to work with, to the point that the arguments they had with Naughty Dog and Insomniac Games were mostly ridden with tirades of four-letter words.
Also, the Colonial Marines PS2 title that Check Six was developing has no connection to the Gearbox disaster that came out in 2013.
I thought you would mention AlphaDream creators of the very successful Mario and Luigi series.
That was an infamous closure that many people arr still sad about today.
Hopefully, Nintendo revives the series.
@@jameslawrenson1208 TBH part of me hopes they don't so they can go back and fix whatever the hell Paper Mario has become. Cause the only reason why Paper Mario became what it did is cause they wanted the M & L series to be their 'RPG' series.
@@Altoryu Origami King wasn't too bad, in fact I'd say it was good. Only real complaint was the removal of unique characters. Which if/when they make the next Paper Mario game they actually make the characters unique again like in the first three
@@HallowedKeeper_ I argue that it still defeats the purpose of encounters since there is no exp or such so aside from I dunno money for whatever that bought you what is the point of combat in the game.
Not to mention the fact they decided to make a literal 'turn based' battle system? Feels like just a troll to me. I personally would rather see Paper Mario return to form then to bring back the Mario and Luigi series.
And yes I tried one of the games but I just couldn't enjoy it compared to the OG Paper Mario games. Heck I still enjoyed Super Paper Mario more then the game that I tried (I think it was Dream Team Bros)
But I dunno that's just how I feel about the whole affair.
I just wanted a Tomato Adventure remake for an international audience....
Surprised Mario and Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story for the 3DS shutting down Alpha Dream didn't make the list
Now I'll never get that international release of Tomato Adventure...
It doesn't surprise me one bit. Alphadream was already doomed before they released it. It was a last-ditch attempt to avert their inevitable bankruptcy.
Silicon Knights might have had troubles even before trying to sue Epic, they already had a kerfuffle with Crystal Dynamics over the creation of the original Blood Omen.
And one of the most fascinating things about Daikatana is that the Gameboy Color port is a Zelda clone and it is actually fun??? And I got the rom from Romero's own site. Yes, he had the dump of the rom and distributed it freely because apparently the game was PAL-only.
I'm just happy the Amalur was finally acquired by THQnordic
cause after the studio closed the rights to the game went to the state of Rhode Island
who (orginally at the time) only wanted to sell for a ridiculous amount of money no publisher was willing to fork over
I don't know if THQnordic decided to pay it, or if Rhode Island decided to lower the price, but I'm guessing the latter
Whenever I think of this sort of thing, the one game that always comes to my mind is Okami, the sales of which I heard lead to Capcom promptly shutting down Clover Studio.
I can't believe we lived during the peak years of video games
Ironic Rockstar blacklisted a company for worker exploitation…
View must be great from that glass house of theirs.
[in a sinister voice] Rabbidluigi. How dare you invoke the name of my nemesis. Curt Schilling.
I went to college for game design (which has not panned for me), and my college used to have some kind of relationship with 38 Studios and Curt Schilling. They'd help sponsor Game Jams and have representatives at the school when they occurred. The idea was to recruit people from my school to 38 Studios, and for a while, the relationship seemed pretty good.
One year, 38 Studios showed up to a job fair on campus. I didn't really attend this job fair, but I heard rumors from one of my professors that the representatives from 38 Studios were apparently not intending to recruit anyone from my school that year. That was around the time they were focused on Rhode Island, so they were really looking to recruit from that area. So then... if you aren't going to try to recruit from this state, why are you even at a JOB FAIR?! Maybe it was just heresay, but it left a bad taste in my mouth about that company.
And I actually did have at least one classmate who would go work for 38 Studios, and after 38 Studios shut down, it felt like the game industry in my region generally took a downturn. So yeah, I didn't care much about Schilling back when he was playing baseball (I don't always pay attention to indivdual players), but after what happened with 38 Studios, I quickly grew to hate him. And all that happened before he started simping for "the tremendous pumpkin".
Lesser note: even Blizzard had to work their way up from smaller projects to the point of making an MMORPG, and you're trying to do that as your FIRST game? (referring to Copernicus, not Amalur)
Shoutout to epic mickey 2, which caused disney to shut down Junction point and now disney interactive studios will only make Kingdom hearts games, which is a shame since I loved epic mickey and wanted to see their potential 3rd game and spinoffs
Ion Storm seems like a contradiction. Best and Worst game in the same year? How? Well, the answer is actually rather simple. Two different development teams. Ion Storm Austin was where Specter worked his magic and Ion Storm Dallas was where Romero fucked his.
Unfortunately, an example I’m all too familiar with is Dead Rising 4 shutting Capcom Vancouver. Even though I didn’t think DR4 was a bad game, they shut down just about a year and a half after it released, and killed the series in the process. I would love it if the franchise could come back in some way, but it doesn’t seem likely.
I could actually see that coming back tbh. I mean Dead Space came back.
I would absolutely love for Dead Rising to make a come back (after all, CapGod is back, for the most part), but they need to make sure it's good. Saying that DR4 isn't a bad game is... certainly a take.
@@tyrian9471 Admittedly, with how I play the games, it's a ton of fun for me, but I am NOT in the majority when it comes to that opinion.
Yeah the whole reason why Capcom Vancouver got closed down is because they got tired working on Dead Rising and wanted to stretch the wings, wanted to create more than just Dead Rising, Capcom refused to budge, people started leaving and to get people to work at your studio for a very niche type of game is an absolute nightmare and is something the former studio knew all too well, we lost a Dino Crisis pitch god darn it because of Capcom being the way they were.
Seriously if Dead Rising came back at all, I think taking the first game cutting the awkward fat that makes the Dead Rising Steak, in this case the Jank, like to switch between missions on the menu doesn't pause the game, so if you try to do that while in a mob of Zombies, well yeah rough, I did end up enjoying Off the Record a lot more than 2 which is a copy of the 1st game with some improvements, Off the Record felt like they found the right balance of fun gameplay while still keeping the jank that DR is known for, like if we got Dead Rising 1&2 but it borrows the improvements from Off the Record, I could actually enjoy those Dead Rising games for once along with a majority of people that never gave the games a chance, if the PS4 version of Shadow of the Colossus could do better with just improved controls alone, who's to say something similar could happen to Dead Rising.
What about Saints Row (2022)- Volition Studios
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5- Robomodo
Forspoken- Luminous Productions
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1+2- Vicarious Visions
Call Of Duty Advanced Warfare- Neversoft?
I figured there was going to at least be an honorable mention for Forspoken.
I mean, it’s even getting the Atari ET treatment.
Where there are a whole piles of the steel box additions, being found in landfills.
And oh yeah, the game company responsible for it is being absorbed back into square Enix.
Daikatana and Deus Ex were not made by the same studio per se ( Ion Storm Dallas for Dai and Ion Storm Austin for Deus Ex)
Daikatana were butchered mostly because Romero was a nightmare to work with
Sigh it's sad really with the behind the scenes with LA Noire development. I really liked the game and considered it one of the most underrated games ever in existence. It goes to show that even the best of something can have some ugly truths behind it. Would of liked another game but it's most likely that won't happen. Shame really.
How can a critical darling that sold like gangbusters be underrated?
@@Waffletigercat Because people often throw that word around where it doesn't belong by using it synonymously with words that it's not synonymous with.
I was expecting Factor 5’s Lair on this list.
I'm going to assume this video was made before Forspoken did its thing.
Fascinating. I learned a lot since I wasn’t aware of any of these. When think of developers going out after a game I think of Chibi Robo Ziplash and M&L BiS+.
Just the other day I was thinking about how "LA Noir" is French for "She is black".
Even though it didn't shut down a studio, Metal Slander Glory: Directors Cut 2000 on the Super Famicom saw HAL lose their rights and become a 2nd party developer for Nintendo.
did you mean: Limbo of the Lost that took 13 years for Majestic Studios to be its only development and STILL relied on stealing other game assets
forspoken and balan wonderworld presumably would do so badly that square-enix pre-emptively made separate studios to cushion the blow away from their main franchises. that's basically giving a baby brother a disconnected controller and saying "they're helping"
I'm not sure about that- Forespoken's studio already existed long before Forespoken, but the game they worked on (Final Fantasy XV) had SUCH a messy development-history that Forespoken ended up becoming their "make it or break it"-moment.
Balan Wonderworld MAYBE, because Naka did say from the start that it was his final chance at making a game the way he wanted to make it (he presumably couldn't get funding from any other company), but I feel like if they gave hkm that money they can't have INTENDED it to fail. Like, Naka had no history with SE, this wasn't a favor for old times sake, they had to have seen SOMETHING in it to invest the money they did... but since all they got from that was a bunch of headlines on how Naka insider-traded a bunch of their mobile games, I think it was money they could've spent on other things.
@@goranisacson2502 honestly, i kind of forgot that they existed before then. news sites seemed to make it sound like the studio was made specifically for the game. i guess either the studio shut down because of Forspoken, or maybe it was a more wiser use of resources to absorb it back into the main Square-Enix portion since XV is so old now?
@@PluckyInc Most likely the latter. See, that studio uses the Luminous Engine they made as a sequel for the FF 13 project's engine Crystal Tools (which was then called the Fabula Nova Crystalis-project), and was meant to be an open-world game engine. I can't remember if this engine was problematic in some specific way, but if I were to speculate- they have done two games in Unreal engine (KH3 and FF7 remake), and they're not using Luminous (or Unreal) for FF16. It would seem to me that they simply think Luminous is not a worthwhile investment if they can instead transition the workforce into the far easier Unreal engine, and make games with less troublesome development and a better return.
The Bowsers Inside Story remake isnt on the list
You know X-Men Destiny was such a failure that it and Too Human were the nails in the coffin for Silicon Knights.
God, this reminded me of the torment that was X-men Destiny.
$60 game, only 2 hours of gameplay.
Kingdoms of Amalur is such an enjoyable game. It’s a shame what happened to its developer.
Agreed!
You can add VTMB here too. RIP Troika. Great vid as always.
I was half expecting luminous productions to show up at some point on this list but I almost forgot about Team Bondi.
The minute I heard Team Bondi's next game was going to be called "Whore of the Orient" I knew it would never materialize.
I'm sorry WHAT?!
My mistake. It wasn't Team Bondi. It was a bunch of former devs from Team Bondi under a new name. "KMM". They were going to release this game called "Whore of the Orient" around 2015 with WB Games publishing. But no gameplay was ever shown and it was confirmed to be canceled in 2016.
If you company doesn't make food your job is disposable
While it's completely Justified why Rockstar shut down Team Bondi but let's not kid our self here,Rockstar is probably just as much worse if not more so than Team Bondi themselves.
It's just unlike Team Bondi,They are just way too rich and got the money to run away from their problems unscathed.
Last Window Secret of Cape Caem!! wish we got more games w/ kyle hyde
Rockstar Games DID work on LA Noire - Rockstar had its studios help out to get the game finished.
Battlefield hardline was actually really fun but because people refused to give it a chance, EA shut down the dead space Devs who made hardline. The dead space remake was made by a different studio under EA and the ex dead space Devs made Callisto protocol.
Still want to see a video on the Top 5 Game Sequels That Were More of the Same.
Call of Duty.
What about Alphadream? The company behind the Mario&Luigi RPG series? Them releasing the remake of Bowser Inside Story on the 3DS drove them into bankruptcy. Because I assume the reason the 3DS was a dying generation of gaming hardware at that time, having the Switch released already. Same reason why the game Joy Mech Fight sold poorly as a regular Famicom game when the Super Famicom was already released by then: Releasing a game on older hardware when newer gaming system hardware was already released by then
In the case of LA Noir it was Brendan McNamara who was respinsoble for the majority of this. That guy is of the opinion that you basicly have work yourselfs to dearh in thr games industrie.
DO NOT WORK FOR HIM, AT ANY CASE. I'm serious if you see a job listing where Brendan McNamara works at, do not apply or accept an offer, this guy is notorious for his workplace abuse.
Daikatana makes me very sad whenever I think about it. I was VERY excited as a child for the game to come out, and it was... well... yeah.
I can't believe you didn't Mention E.T for the Atarii 2600, a game that killed an entire gaming giant.
Hey Luigi.... Do you not remember command and conquer renegade killing Westwood studios, one of the biggest gaming companies in the 90's and invented the real time strategy genre in 93 with dune 2
Ah, Kingdoms of Amalur... welp, bout time I put that baby into the PS4 and give it another go at the cost of my ever increasing backlog.
im expecting alpha dream in this one. their shutdown was SAD
Lair for the PS3 shut down Factor 5 GmbH
Vicariuos Visions was too successful with their remakes of Crash Bandicoot, Tony Hawk 1 & 2, and Diablo 2 that they were fully merged into Blizzard becoming Blizzard Albany
I have said it before and I will say it again: God Hand was a good game and it deserves a remake/remaster of some sort.
Oh, and Gene deserves a spot in the next Project X Zone... or Marvel vs Capcom... just... anything.
Radical Heighs was actually a Bussin idea with so much potential. 80s game show style Battle royale?? Hell yeah that sounds lit!
Such a shame it was doomed to fail
I was sorry to see 3do taken down after Heroes of might and magic 4. The series was bought up by Ubisoft, and one of the best strategy games.in history has been limping on ever since.
Kingdoms of amalur is great and i always wondered what happened to that studio
I played LawBrakers when the game came out, even before with the betas'; it was so fun, but so sad it bombed.
Same, I had a lot of fun with it, but I sadly knew it wouldn't do well.
LA Noire is a video game nightmare scenario
Forspoken
Surprised this wasn't here since it is one of the most recent examples.
And I thought that game couldn't get anymore embarrassing lol (It came out on January 24th, my birthday)
@@s.p.d.magentaranger1822 I saw the title of the video and assumed that it was inspired atleast by forspokens latest L, and would likely have it appear.
Colour me surprised
@@giloguy101 Ye, I just have a comical vendetta against it because of timing lol. At least Hi-Fi rush made me feel slightly better.
Probably cause the devs weren't very distinguished in the first place, they only had two games under their belt and neither was all that special (and I say that as someone who likes both games). So putting Luminous on the list would be recency bias when compared to more notable examples.
Sorry to be _that_ person, but as someone from Australia it's pronounced Bond-eye, not Bond-ee, and every time you keep saying "Bond-ee" my brain dies a little XD
How about Top 5 Contested Sequels? I think you could make a good list of that.
extremely fitting pfp for that comment
I'm surprised not to see Angel of Darkness here
Tomb Raider Angel of Darkness was made in the era where Core Design were sick of Tomb Raider and Lara Croft, to the point where they tried to kill Lara in The Last Revelation but when that was enough, they cheaply pushed out Chronicles (Which I'd argue is worse than Angel of Darkness honestly) However then Core did get a bit of hope for Tomb Raider when the PS2 came out and so came the gruelling development of Angel of Darkness which cost them everything and they needed to succeed to keep in order to stay afloat. However the game was buggy, one of its features was underbaked and even with the tie in release of the classic Tomb Raider movies, the game sold extremely poorly resulting in the shutdown of Core Design and the Tomb Raider license would be given to Crystal Dynamics
TLDR: Tomb Raider Angel of Darkness is an example of what if Final Fantasy 7 didn't succeed
Wondering where Visceral studios would rank on this or if people just chalk it up to EA being bullies to them being shut down :(
Yeah i'm quite surprised EA didn't have a hand in ANY of these.
the team bondi story still p1sses me off if they had a decent manager they might sill be around.
I played Lawbreakers and I wish it came out at any other time because I enjoyed it a lot however there were other games I wanted to play.
Imagine if this was recent. The Day Before would be #1
It is a shame how many options there were for a topic like this.
As a more recent example to add, wasn't the studio that made Forspoken shut down? Forspoken was a hot pile of garbage so it's not surprising.
over the past 3-4 years i've lost all interest in gaming but i did complete Kingdom of Amalur last year for the third time, so sad it's a very good game
Another game that is super forgotten indestructible which was a fan favorite game and one of the best car game on mobile. Made by glu that has gotten greedy.
I'm kinda surprised that Darksiders 2 was never mentioned here
Same, and I played that game to completion a few times on Wii U, Switch, PS4, and Xbox One.
Where's Looking Glass?
One of my all-time favorite developers. Thief 1 and 2 are both in my top 4 favorite games of all time, and I also love both System Shock games.
How was Dead Space 3 not on this list? Or Forgotten, I meant to say Forespoken.
LA noire and kingdoms of amalur are sad cuz they are great games that tanked their studios
Playstation All-Stars shut SuperBot down
I actually liked that game too.
@Logical Juan Same. Third-party publishers were more in Xbox's court that gen. A sequel would have a ton more potential
Those rat bastards made X-Men Destiny? Might just be the most soulless game I've ever played
How could you forget about Alpha Dream!!!
Anyone think of this video while they followed the news around The Day Before?
MMORPGBBQ is now my favorite acronym
Intersting video!
Counterpoint : Fortnite was chasing trends too.
RIP Irrational Games
Forspoken killed Luminous Productions it was their second game that sucks.
Im sorry RabbidLuigi but its pronounced Team Bon-die like bondi (bon die) beach in Aus
It's pronounced Bon-DYE not Bon-DEE, Will.
Yeah I’m from Rhode Island and we all collectively hate Kurt Schilling because of that stupid shit
The original Deus Ex is still my all-time favorite game, and, in many respects, it still has yet to be surpassed.
So this technically makes Forspoken an honorable mention?
Always a good day to shit on Schilling
Weren't Okami and/or God Hand the last games of Clover Studios?
They indeed were, and Clover would definitely be a good choice since GH’s negative reception along with Okami’s lackluster sales despite how long and expensive it was to make are what ultimately resulted in it shutting down.
Starfield is next on the list.
Konami ... pachinko machines
Was kinda expecting Forespoken to show up here
Do you think Kid Icarus: Uprising counts?
Probably not since Project Sora was put together specifically to make Uprising and only that game, rather than dissolving because of it.
@@amirgarcia547 Fair enough.
Forspoken-Luminous Productions
2 mid games enough to make you get absorbed back into se
Before I even watch the video, I’m going to assume Forspoken is somewhere on the list.
It isn't
Nevermind.
The Quiet Man
Something something Spyro 4