Careful: with axes at the same height there's risk of fracturing the ice, resulting in pulling off both axes. Especially on brittle ice, the triangle ("advanced" here) is better
The "basic" technique shown here is outdated even for low-angle ice and beginners. It has a lot more drawbacks than the A-technique, called "advanced" in this video, which is recommended by basically everybody with a bit of knowledge. And yes, it is safer also for beginners. Anybody got an explanation for why Petzl is promoting this in 2019?
Thanks to everyone who pointed out that these are no longer recommended techniques. I'm just starting to research the topic, and this is literally the first technique video I pulled up.
Petzl is helping nobody with this video - the "beginner technique" shown is outdated, inefficient and potentially dangerous. Clearly this technique is preferred by their legal team though, because they have continued to push it as more secure for beginners. This is simply not the case. There are much better videos out there on the subject of movement over ice by the likes of Will Gadd, and even Jeff Lowe's ice climbing series on VCR from the nineties!
Yeah, I did fall off, while lead climbing and having axes at same level. I was going over to flat terrain at the top. No injury happened but a scary lesson learned.
Automatic translation? Even fewer speak French, although Petzl originated in France, their customers mostly are not. The ... in your comment makes it feel entitled. @@flo74w
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Careful: with axes at the same height there's risk of fracturing the ice, resulting in pulling off both axes. Especially on brittle ice, the triangle ("advanced" here) is better
The "basic" technique shown here is outdated even for low-angle ice and beginners.
It has a lot more drawbacks than the A-technique, called "advanced" in this video, which is recommended by basically everybody with a bit of knowledge. And yes, it is safer also for beginners.
Anybody got an explanation for why Petzl is promoting this in 2019?
Thanks to everyone who pointed out that these are no longer recommended techniques. I'm just starting to research the topic, and this is literally the first technique video I pulled up.
Yeah, "Basic Technique" demonstrated in this video is no longer recommended by anyone.
SAYS EVERYONE ! but petzl (WTH?)
1:34... Will Gadd and all the other pros advise exactly the opposite.
Didn’t know Dave Graham did voice overs
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Good information, but i thinki the most important thing is knowing And reading well the ice, that change everyone day
Can you teach me, I want to make it to the Olympic Games
Very nice
Very nice..
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Very interesting ! :)
Please make a Video from the new ZigZag Prusik
Petzl is helping nobody with this video - the "beginner technique" shown is outdated, inefficient and potentially dangerous. Clearly this technique is preferred by their legal team though, because they have continued to push it as more secure for beginners. This is simply not the case. There are much better videos out there on the subject of movement over ice by the likes of Will Gadd, and even Jeff Lowe's ice climbing series on VCR from the nineties!
What pants are these???
Some good advice but don't have your tools at the same level unless you want to fall off. So the main technique shown here is BS.... sorry.
Yeah, I did fall off, while lead climbing and having axes at same level. I was going over to flat terrain at the top. No injury happened but a scary lesson learned.
In french please....
But why?
@@Tasmodeus Not everyone speaks English!
Automatic translation?
Even fewer speak French, although Petzl originated in France, their customers mostly are not. The ... in your comment makes it feel entitled. @@flo74w
In english it's normal,it's international.
But also in french,it's french compagny!
There is no french translation,
They must translate.