I had a Gerber MP 600 for many years, liked it a lot, but it disappeared. A friend wanted me to help him build several miles of 5 strand barbwire fence, for which a multi tool is indispensable. I couldn't afford to replace my Gerber at that time so I bought a Winchester multi tool that looked very similar to the Gerber suspension. I figured maybe it would hold up for a few days until I could afford a better option. Long story short, that was several years ago and I have replaced my Gerber MP 600, I also have the suspension, and some Leathermans, I also still have the cheepo Winchester. It preformed way beyond my expectations and is still in excellent working order.
Sounds like there’s a need to identify what each multi-tool does well, and where it fails, before you buy. Glad to see you pointing out what’s clearly good or bad! It’ll help people to avoid making mistakes. Thank you.
Interesting overview of the multitool universe. I wish they would design smaller task specific variants and a choice to pick from tools to customize. ✌️ Awesome presentation
I want a Leatherman crunch, but real bit driver, diamond file with metal file on the other side, full size knife (all of those accessible closed) then ruler, bottle opener, t shank holder on the inside. Pliers similar to the crunch with the notch. Replacement wire cutter. Wire stripper knockout on the blade.
Great video as usual. I live in England where a locking blade is illegal to carry outside the home. Yet even the more expensive Leatherman's don't offer a non-locking blade option. Is the UK market considered too small to cater for?
Lansky makes a folder that doesn't lock the original Leatherman pst doesn't lock and you could buy a Leatherman rebar or supertool disassemble it and grind down the tab that drops into the slot on the back of the tools be it the whole thing or simply where the knife blades are it will still function like a slip joint or they make a "tsa approved" rebar as well
Great video. I can see the Paul Chen being useful for a gardener as an EDC. Great shears and some pliers for tightening small bolts that always loosen up with tool vibration.
@@maxlvledc does your modified Paul Chen still have an edc purpose? For who and can you please make a video? I imagine that for the low entry price even with all the tools you removed it’s still worth a carry? This is the rabbit hole your videos put me in, thanks for the great content. 👍🏽
I've used budget multitools for years with no locking blade as im in the UK. They have been one of my few options until the Leatherman Bond. Have some that have been good and others not so good. They're also useful when others are using them, they can keep their greasy paws off my good tools.
I'm looking for a really mean saw, really sturdy pliers and something that will accept a hex bit with the variety. If it is capable of going through a deers pelvis, or keep me from going to my tool box and I can use the pliers without fear of injury.
Thanks for the video! I find it interesting that there are so many multi tool options, but very few decent swiss army knife competitors. Gerber is starting, but they are low quality, Leatherman's option is expensive and heavy. I have seen the Ruike knives, but for the same functionality cost significantly more. If you could review or give suggestions would be appreciated! I
Ruike uses significantly better blade steel and materials than Victorinox. Swiza is also another great competitor to Victorinox, who also uses better materials. I believe they both use 14c28n or something similar.
@@christianbarnes736 I have one of the keychain Ruike knives with scissors on order and am excited to see how it works out. The classic sd is ok, but in some ways is more dangerous than a full sized knife since the sping is so weak.
What is the average weight of a multi tool from non budget companies like sog, leatherman, victorinox, gerber compared to the budget multitools? How much is the difference from a full size/pocket sized to a keychain multitool?
@@PreparedWolf34 Would you PLEASE Stop posting all these great videos? Every time you show some great new tool, I end up buying it. This is getting expensive!
At their current price point, buying Leathermen doesn't make sense. I can buy 4 or 5 budget multitools, beat the hell out of them, then use the parts to make a decent pocket knife. I don't use files enough to care, but use scissors all the time. If anything, I'd turn the file into a pry tool or chisel.
So far my Jakemy PJ1010 amazed me. But the Nextool Flagship Pro even better! Cos has full size sharp scissor, liner lock n accessible tools from outside. Its scissor make my Surge's scissor looks...tiny😅
Good thing I've been in the budget knife game for awhile so I know all the manufacturers tricks...bought a bibury 31 and 1 great 👍 a mossy oak 12 and 1 its basically half a wave ...but when I found out a leatherman bond was a lousy 60 bucks the game was over sold 😊
You making the case for Leatherman to develop a general purpose platform. Were individuals can select the tools / implements they need for their applications! C’mon Leatherman! Take the lead an innovate!
The one with the shears seems interesting. I did notice also now they offer folding paint scraper multi tools at Home Depot. Definitely some more stuff coming as these tools that didn't exist come out.
Great video, only recently discovered your channel and loving the content. Have you found any multitools with 4mm bit drivers, I'd find it very useful for work. The only one I have found is the cybertool but I'm not really a fan. Thanks!
Have you checked out RockTol 29 in one multi tool for 40 dollars it reminds me of the Leatherman surge so much. Maybe check it out and do a video about it
Great video! I just order those two MTs the bibury ones, the secon from the blue or green multitool and the fifth one from the green/blue one but under the name or brand WETOLS! I don't know if there's any difference between them!!
Nice I have to agree, it's funny about the knifes my buddy found a knife thinking it was just a gas station knife not knowing what s30v is and what a Benchmade is, he thought since it had a butterfly it was a girls knife it's a custom Benchmade bug out addition. almost a 300.00 knife so I shaperpend it and made him a nice leather sheath haha! he was like I just won the lottery 🤣
@@maxlvledc hey I made that knife from the multi force and man I love it!! It's worth buying one just to make into a pocket knife AND now I have room in the case for more Star bits and big drivers and such!! Thanks brother I love it!
I got that one with the removable scissors. One of the backsprings for the pliers snapped in two less than two hours after I took it out of the box. It is a nice design, but the construction quality is trash.
I have the bibury wave clone, weights in at a half oz heavier then the leatherman, blade is sharp, all tools work as they should. $35.00 compared to $165.00 canadien. I would put it up against the leatherman any day.
That's the thing about Multi-tools either budget or higher end, They're good for a lot of things but not great at any one thing. There is always a sacrifice.
i miss my leatherman supertool. the saw and file worked great really all the tools did. it didn't have scissors but i had knives for cutting. i just don't see any of these beating that except for price. i have destroyed the sog and Gerber ones and will never get another from them. i don't trust them.
I guess if youre a seamstress scissors must be important. No judgement. We all need a hobby. Lol I would love to see a multi tool geared towards technicians/electrical etc. I remember seeing one at Lowes, i think made by Klein, i could be wrong. But i would like to see a set of good wire cutters, with strippers, maybe a bit long to act as needle nose even. A good cutting blade. Maybe a pair of scissors where i can snip frayed ends or zip ties. A pry bar/nail puller A good bit driver with bits for star, Philips, flathead and hex. And the frame should be rubberized (good quality) for safety. For survival/outdoors/hunting/fishing Pliers that can cut. Or it can be shears. A good cutting blade, maybe with a gut hook. A secondary blade os always a good idea. A saw. Pry bar, with a good file Maybe a good can opener. Perhaps a removable fire starter to use with the knife. Things we dont need in multi tools Awl. Honesty, do we ever use them? Corkscrew Bottle opener Letter openers! No theyre not secondary blades Tooth picks Cheap Plastic. Yuck. Make the frames metal, rubber, or rubberized plastic, and or quality wood. Sorry, just my rant.
Personally I will never buy or use a multitool of any kind that's made in china. I just don't think any are worth owning, because they're either completely worthless they're a knockoff of a good tool they just don't have the engineering of a good multitool or are a gimmick. As you said they're heavy, and that's because they're way oversized. It seems they don't know how to make things sturdy and durable without making those things oversized, I haven't seen the kind of well thought out engineering that you get from leatherman unless they're directly copying one of their models.
Second hand is always interesting. Found myself a nice Leatherman that way on a marketstand. I think that is also the way to go for a multitool you put in the clove compartment or door of your car .
“Try to find a one function you will be using most” is probably the worst advice to give about multi-tool lol. The whole point of the multi-tool is literally in it’s name. Otherwise I’ll just get a separate tool.
Thanks
I had a Gerber MP 600 for many years, liked it a lot, but it disappeared. A friend wanted me to help him build several miles of 5 strand barbwire fence, for which a multi tool is indispensable. I couldn't afford to replace my Gerber at that time so I bought a Winchester multi tool that looked very similar to the Gerber suspension. I figured maybe it would hold up for a few days until I could afford a better option. Long story short, that was several years ago and I have replaced my Gerber MP 600, I also have the suspension, and some Leathermans, I also still have the cheepo Winchester. It preformed way beyond my expectations and is still in excellent working order.
i hv 2 of the Winchester one's, both C A lot of use & they R still kicking
Sounds like there’s a need to identify what each multi-tool does well, and where it fails, before you buy. Glad to see you pointing out what’s clearly good or bad! It’ll help people to avoid making mistakes. Thank you.
They will never do this, as their only goal is to sell
What's the name of the one with the removable scissors? Is it made by roxon?
For me I’d say the Charge+ with an awl would be my perfect multitool
Interesting overview of the multitool universe. I wish they would design smaller task specific variants and a choice to pick from tools to customize. ✌️ Awesome presentation
100% on everything said here
I want a Leatherman crunch, but real bit driver, diamond file with metal file on the other side, full size knife (all of those accessible closed) then ruler, bottle opener, t shank holder on the inside. Pliers similar to the crunch with the notch. Replacement wire cutter. Wire stripper knockout on the blade.
I ended up ordering the Bibury 21-in-1 after watching one of your videos cause I wanted a budget multitool with a good screwdriver
Great video as usual. I live in England where a locking blade is illegal to carry outside the home. Yet even the more expensive Leatherman's don't offer a non-locking blade option. Is the UK market considered too small to cater for?
Lansky makes a folder that doesn't lock the original Leatherman pst doesn't lock and you could buy a Leatherman rebar or supertool disassemble it and grind down the tab that drops into the slot on the back of the tools be it the whole thing or simply where the knife blades are it will still function like a slip joint or they make a "tsa approved" rebar as well
Leatherman bond doesn't have a locking blade and is a good price for a Leatherman.
What’s the best multi tool brand? Maybe I should read the comments. But I’m ignorant and just bought a mossy oak one.
Great video. I can see the Paul Chen being useful for a gardener as an EDC. Great shears and some pliers for tightening small bolts that always loosen up with tool vibration.
the pliers on the paul Chen were not heat treated right so they were very very soft. I removed them and most of the other wierd tools.
@@maxlvledc does your modified Paul Chen still have an edc purpose? For who and can you please make a video? I imagine that for the low entry price even with all the tools you removed it’s still worth a carry? This is the rabbit hole your videos put me in, thanks for the great content. 👍🏽
I've used budget multitools for years with no locking blade as im in the UK. They have been one of my few options until the Leatherman Bond. Have some that have been good and others not so good. They're also useful when others are using them, they can keep their greasy paws off my good tools.
I'm looking for a really mean saw, really sturdy pliers and something that will accept a hex bit with the variety. If it is capable of going through a deers pelvis, or keep me from going to my tool box and I can use the pliers without fear of injury.
I put the last diamond whistle under extreme pressure on the Bibury Multitool and it's still good 👍
Thanks for the video! I find it interesting that there are so many multi tool options, but very few decent swiss army knife competitors. Gerber is starting, but they are low quality, Leatherman's option is expensive and heavy. I have seen the Ruike knives, but for the same functionality cost significantly more. If you could review or give suggestions would be appreciated! I
I agree, SAK cornered the market for that style hands down. Every SAK clone I have seen lacked in quality.
I will at some point for sure!
@@maxlvledc Thanks!
Ruike uses significantly better blade steel and materials than Victorinox. Swiza is also another great competitor to Victorinox, who also uses better materials. I believe they both use 14c28n or something similar.
@@christianbarnes736 I have one of the keychain Ruike knives with scissors on order and am excited to see how it works out. The classic sd is ok, but in some ways is more dangerous than a full sized knife since the sping is so weak.
What is the average weight of a multi tool from non budget companies like sog, leatherman, victorinox, gerber compared to the budget multitools? How much is the difference from a full size/pocket sized to a keychain multitool?
Keychain is usually under 3oz, mid side range from 5-9oz (including clones), hd tools usually 9-13oz
Hey man can you give me the name of the scissor tool at 5:12? I'm almost completely convinced to buy that based on that little brief showing of it
Can you post the link to those folding/ retractable scissors? My wife could use those!
Sure. amzn.to/2YA6NZa
@@maxlvledc Thank You
@@PreparedWolf34 Would you PLEASE Stop posting all these great videos? Every time you show some great new tool, I end up buying it. This is getting expensive!
Really great and insightful video ^_^. Looking forward to a top 10 innovation budget tools.
At their current price point, buying Leathermen doesn't make sense. I can buy 4 or 5 budget multitools, beat the hell out of them, then use the parts to make a decent pocket knife. I don't use files enough to care, but use scissors all the time. If anything, I'd turn the file into a pry tool or chisel.
Wow! Impressive presentation. I so wish other reviewers could stay on point like you did in this video.
That's a real compliment, as I rarely stay on topic lol
So far my Jakemy PJ1010 amazed me. But the Nextool Flagship Pro even better! Cos has full size sharp scissor, liner lock n accessible tools from outside. Its scissor make my Surge's scissor looks...tiny😅
Good thing I've been in the budget knife game for awhile so I know all the manufacturers tricks...bought a bibury 31 and 1 great 👍 a mossy oak 12 and 1 its basically half a wave ...but when I found out a leatherman bond was a lousy 60 bucks the game was over sold 😊
Can you do a review on Coleman? Thanks for sharing mate.
which model?
You making the case for Leatherman to develop a general purpose platform. Were individuals can select the tools / implements they need for their applications! C’mon Leatherman! Take the lead an innovate!
Yep, otherwise GOAT tools is going cause them a head ache
@@maxlvledc I am excited to see GOAT when they get some production models going. Like to see how they fare.
@@matthewcopeland4441 u and me both
What's the Multitool you separate the scissors of from at 5:10 mins?
It's made by many companies on Amazon. amzn.to/3KsFWRe
@@maxlvledc thanks!☺️
the bibury wave knockoff one is great for the price...use it everyday at work..i never was a fan of leathermans flat philips bits..
@Maxlvledc Is there a link to the Paul Chen Scissors multi tool?
amzn.to/3vZUsMp here u go
The one with the shears seems interesting. I did notice also now they offer folding paint scraper multi tools at Home Depot. Definitely some more stuff coming as these tools that didn't exist come out.
I had that one! Should have put that in..but I don't really consider that a multitool, that's more of a "pocket Knife"
Great video, only recently discovered your channel and loving the content. Have you found any multitools with 4mm bit drivers, I'd find it very useful for work. The only one I have found is the cybertool but I'm not really a fan. Thanks!
Hmm, only the roxon phantom. And only with adapter
@@maxlvledc Thanks for the reply! Looks like it's time to cannibalise the cybertool
Have you checked out RockTol 29 in one multi tool for 40 dollars it reminds me of the Leatherman surge so much. Maybe check it out and do a video about it
Great video! I just order those two MTs the bibury ones, the secon from the blue or green multitool and the fifth one from the green/blue one but under the name or brand WETOLS! I don't know if there's any difference between them!!
Should be, same distributor I bet
Nice I have to agree, it's funny about the knifes my buddy found a knife thinking it was just a gas station knife not knowing what s30v is and what a Benchmade is, he thought since it had a butterfly it was a girls knife it's a custom Benchmade bug out addition. almost a 300.00 knife so I shaperpend it and made him a nice leather sheath haha! he was like I just won the lottery 🤣
Dammmmmnnnn
@@maxlvledc hey I made that knife from the multi force and man I love it!! It's worth buying one just to make into a pocket knife AND now I have room in the case for more Star bits and big drivers and such!! Thanks brother I love it!
I got that one with the removable scissors. One of the backsprings for the pliers snapped in two less than two hours after I took it out of the box. It is a nice design, but the construction quality is trash.
The QC on these is so inconsistent. That's one of the problems with them
whats the name of the one with removable scissors, wanted to check it out
@@datamike00 it's made by a whole bunch of brands. Look us Sui Pro
Very concise and insightful
Thanks for the video! Agree with the innovation bit.
Very useful information. Thanks for the video!
Are there any budget multi tools that are made outside of China?
good question..I don't know of any.
I have the bibury wave clone, weights in at a half oz heavier then the leatherman, blade is sharp, all tools work as they should. $35.00 compared to $165.00 canadien. I would put it up against the leatherman any day.
That's the thing about Multi-tools either budget or higher end, They're good for a lot of things but not great at any one thing. There is always a sacrifice.
i miss my leatherman supertool. the saw and file worked great really all the tools did. it didn't have scissors but i had knives for cutting. i just don't see any of these beating that except for price. i have destroyed the sog and Gerber ones and will never get another from them. i don't trust them.
I had a few and never liked them unless the last resort🤷🏻♂️
I guess if youre a seamstress scissors must be important.
No judgement. We all need a hobby. Lol
I would love to see a multi tool geared towards technicians/electrical etc.
I remember seeing one at Lowes, i think made by Klein, i could be wrong.
But i would like to see a set of good wire cutters, with strippers, maybe a bit long to act as needle nose even.
A good cutting blade. Maybe a pair of scissors where i can snip frayed ends or zip ties.
A pry bar/nail puller
A good bit driver with bits for star, Philips, flathead and hex.
And the frame should be rubberized (good quality) for safety.
For survival/outdoors/hunting/fishing
Pliers that can cut. Or it can be shears.
A good cutting blade, maybe with a gut hook.
A secondary blade os always a good idea.
A saw.
Pry bar, with a good file
Maybe a good can opener.
Perhaps a removable fire starter to use with the knife.
Things we dont need in multi tools
Awl. Honesty, do we ever use them?
Corkscrew
Bottle opener
Letter openers! No theyre not secondary blades
Tooth picks
Cheap Plastic. Yuck.
Make the frames metal, rubber, or rubberized plastic, and or quality wood.
Sorry, just my rant.
thanks :)
Personally I will never buy or use a multitool of any kind that's made in china.
I just don't think any are worth owning, because they're either completely worthless they're a knockoff of a good tool they just don't have the engineering of a good multitool or are a gimmick.
As you said they're heavy, and that's because they're way oversized.
It seems they don't know how to make things sturdy and durable without making those things oversized, I haven't seen the kind of well thought out engineering that you get from leatherman unless they're directly copying one of their models.
If you need multitool, buy proper one that means Leatherman or Victorinox. For $40-80 2nd hand LM or VIC will fit 90% needs. Forget budget MTs.
Second hand is always interesting. Found myself a nice Leatherman that way on a marketstand. I think that is also the way to go for a multitool you put in the clove compartment or door of your car .
Give them a try, you'll be surprised 😊
Everyone knows how much the Armbar from Gerber is horrible but have you ever seen the Gerber Fit it’s everything the Armbar should be
“Try to find a one function you will be using most” is probably the worst advice to give about multi-tool lol. The whole point of the multi-tool is literally in it’s name. Otherwise I’ll just get a separate tool.
If you need multitool, buy proper one that means Leatherman or Victorinox. For $40-80 2nd hand LM or VIC will fit 90% needs. Forget budget MTs.
I agree 100%