Steve Hinton Intro to Jets PART I: Early Jet Aircraft | Hangar Talk | Planes of Fame
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2024
- Steve Hinton spent a couple of days organizing the Jet Hangar at Planes of Fame Air Museum. I sat down with him afterwards and asked him to tell us a little bit about the collection. He discusses the early jet planes in our collection and his experiences as a pilot. Part II coming soon!
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I always enjoy listening to Steve talk about the different planes in the collection and the many projects going on at the Museum. Thank you Mr.Hinton!!!
To a kid of 67 years, this is such a treat. Steve Hinton as a tour guide! And i've had the pleasure of a few visits with Walter Soplata in his 'museum' 30 to 40 years ago.
Those gnats are amazing. Love the vampire and meteor too. you need an English electric lightning,, now they're crazy.
Thank you Steve for all that you do.
Museums across the world sharing planes because some of them have lots of F-86s and want Meteors and some have Meteors but want F-86s just warms my cold nihilistic heart.
I remember The Red Arrows flying the Gnat. 9yr old me got a bit upset when they changed to the Hawk.
The Gnat seemed like it was built for me.
Your sitting on a RUclips goldmine here. Steve has a nice way and your edits are great. You asked for suggestions so here goes: My suggestion would be to interview Steve and the other pilots at POF regarding a specific plane for every episode. Develop an interview format you can use for each episode that has the pilot describe their first encounter, first flight, aircraft capabilities, what that plane taught that pilot, and (like you have been) how the plane came to be there, a little about its history. This way you don’t have to reinvent the format for every episode. The personal experiences flying the plane are so illuminating. Every plane there deserves an episode so you have a ton of material. Nice work!
Aircrew Interviews does this.
Gary New thanks for that! Dang RUclips, you would think that would have been in my recommendations. I wonder what else I don’t know.
Please show and explain more of such highly interested aircraft!
I met Mr. Hinton very briefly at Duxford's Flying Legends air display a few years ago. One of the world's great pilots.
Behind the scenes stuff like about the NAT and F5 or pilot notes about Mig 21 are priceless. Curious about the challenges you have maintaining the ones that fly as well.
Agreed! We're so lucky to have Steve and his wisdom at Planes of Fame. We're still editing Part II of this video but he talks about the flyable jets including our F-86, MiG 15, and T-33.
Had the good fortune to get a ride in your T-33 with Steve as the pilot some 30 odd years ago. What a thrill that was for me.
I love these vids. Steve does it all! Five *****
Douglas Rocket looks Beautiful, just like the F-104 Starfighter.
Something like the Kermie cam flights of the P-51D Mustange (Kermit Weeks) but with Steve flying the F-86. Would really like to see that.
Not just flying, but focus on procedures, etc, what it's really like to take up a plane like the F-86.
We're not doing a whole lot of flying at the moment but we'll see what we can do when we're back in action!
Agreed. Some Stevey cams of all the flyable aircraft there would be great.
I loved this video.Keep-em flying,and please bring us more videos.
2:50 TS-11 Iskra (Spark) - Polish jet training aicraft. Beautiful machine :)
they are constantly flying over my house
Outstanding video - looking forward to many more!
Awesome video! It's great to hear what Steve has to say about each airplane.
Compared to other jets, the Vampire does look a bit odd, but put it next to a P-38 and it doesn't look so strange
Thanks for the video Steve, I know these things take a lot of time to produce, but they are very much appreciated.
About Iskra: one correction. It wasn't build in Czech Republic but in Poland. TS11 stands for it's designer's name Tadeusz Soltyk. They are still used in Poland.
Great collection of aircraft, great clip thanks for that.
This Gnat looks pretty cool!
Wow, a Skyrocket ! Now that's really a beauty, even if the rocket motor is gone !
I am going to come out soon and see the airport again and spend the day as I did 45 years ago. When I was at the airport as a kid, my parents used to drop us off and we would spend the day roaming through the planes and playing airforce. That is when i learned about the B-29 sistership to the Enola Gay. I played alot in that bird. I always thought how incredible an effort it must have been. Mom went up with Steve back in 95 I think it was. Up in the P-51 D, I believe. Dad worked on the original flying wing and was actually hired by Jack Northrop in the day. Dad spent the better part of 50 years working and making America Great by Design. Tons of stories and great memories. Thanks to Chino Steve and the Team.
@today is not yesterday no, this is true. I will make it out very soon.
Another great clip, informal and very informative. As a Brit I love Steve's comments about the performance of the Gnat, and very interested to know which Meteor PoF have purchased. Just a small correction, the Iskra is Polish rather than Czech. Please keep these kinds of videos coming, PoF has so many treasures that deserve a wide audience, including Steve himself.
Thank you! You are correct, the Iskra is Polish. This interview wasn't scripted or rehearsed, no one is perfect!
PS. I hope you don't mind Steve calling the British aircraft odd looking! :)
@@planesoffame No pilot is perfect, we try to be....
"British aircraft are roundy'". Love it.
Our women aren't much different 😉
I will stop to listen to Steve talk about planes, anytime. How about a series on his experiences with the Reno air Races?
Keep up the content 👍
We'll try our best!
Beautiful Gnat
My God Planes of Fame has grown
Amazing stuff! Do you have any link to the movies or videos of this Gnat that Steve was discussing here? Would love to see them.
Plane content is great!
Thanks!
The Folland Gnat was designed in the mid-50s and flight-tested by Peter Twiss......
The Gnat is awesome I am building the airfix yellow jack soon
I'd ask you show detail of the cockpits, especially the Douglas Skyrocket.
Thanks for sharing.
Look what's sitting outside!!!!!
Interesting comments by Steve on the Douglas Skyrocket - first plane to exceed Mach 2. However, it was a rocket plane and had to be dropped from a B29 - amazing to think that the Concorde airliner flew around 15 years later and carried 100 passengers regularly across the Atlantic.... cruising at over Mach 2
The "mothership" for the two purely rocket powered D-558-2 was a Boeing P2B, the U.S. Navy variant of the B-29.
Vampire wearing the Sqn badge of 112 Sqn (The Black Cats).
Do all of the cockpits
hope you guys have to tow cables for the mig21, If you tow it the way you did there is a high chance of the nose wheel collapsing. Love the collection though. I would love to add a A4 to my hangar
Is that 'Hangar Rash' at the 3:55 mark on the inboard trailing edge of the left wing?
I went to a Gathering of Eagles airshow in Chino in 1978
Harley Topper approves of the Gnat!
They're all so clean! Are those jewels 100% operational? Could they fly? Do they?
Was that a P-84 Thunderjet next to a F-105. Wow ! 2 Republic built acft next to each other!
Poor old Vampire's got some rugged hangar rash on it . 0_0
Can you give a little more information on the Meteor that has recently been aquired?
Thanks for your question! I'll ask and see what he can tell us about it.
Is it a former Martin baker test aircraft..?
The Meteor is an F 4 delivered to the Royal Air Force in 1948.
Folland Gnat, great airbrake system, the main undercarriage drops half way out.
Wow, What's It Like Owning A Private Museum Of Historical Aircraft!?! I Don't Know What It Would Cost But I'd Love To Go There. Is There Any Aviator Luckier Than Steve . . .
Something has battered that poor old Vampire on the left boom and the left flap - would need a bit of love before that goes up again...
Steve, I was wondering if you could make a video discussing contra rotating propellers. I know that you flew the Red Baron and I am aware of that the Precious Metal Aircraft. I believe both of these planes had the RR Gryphon engine with Dowty Rotol Contra-rotating prop developed for the later spitfire Marques which made them unique vis-a-vis the Merlin powered planes with Hamilton Standard or Aeroproducts props😊. As you know many people expected both of these aircraft to dominate Unlimited air racing for years but they were not able to do that and the stripe and engine are thought to be a role.do tot beleive in plants,
Hi PoF
Some (many) years ago Steve Hinton made a very good video on the F6F Hellcat - a comprehensive walk-around and cockpit intro. Now, I can't find this video anymore. Could you re-upload it? Or make a new one :) :)
It was made by the company that did the Roaring War birds series.
The Gnat was never used by the RAF as a fighter, only a trainer I think? Beautiful though.
Richard Pentelow ....also used by the yellowjackets display team, who became the Red Arrows, still in the gnat, but painted red!
Dorset Dumpling. The Red Arrows are flying the Hawk now, an unnoticed British success story, close to 1000 sold. Never going to be as pretty as the Gnat, but usable as a front line fighter in a lot of the world.
@@dorsetdumpling5387 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowjacks
Who's writing the crunch report for the Vampire?
Yes do need a Lightning (Frightening.....)
Is it me or is this video really quiet compared to other videos for anyone else?
Do you think the early British jets didn't have the " information" that was available post war hence the odd design work.
Other way round the British were way ahead of America in terms of jet development though out the war, and in the immediate post war era because we (and the Germans) started experimenting with them while the NACA (forerunner of NASA) did not think the technology was there to make a jet work. All the first generation US jets used Brit engine technology. It just boiled down to design philosophy and a lack of money, even today the US Marine Corps still fly's a British Jet, the Harrier (AV8), and I think the USAF still have a couple of Canberra's in service or at least they did. If you want an idea just how advanced the British in terms of jets were at the end of WW2 have a look at the Miles M1 project, which we cancelled just before it was ready to fly and handed all the research over to the US much of which found its way into the X-1 program. Another good source is Capt. Eric Brown RN (look him up) biography who was probably our best test pilot and pretty much wrote the book on captured German types, and I believe was the only allied pilot to fly a 'live' Me 163 Komet rocket plane.
The Nat is one of the yellow jackets flight display team like the red arrows
Yellowjacks, forerunners of the Red Arrows
You guys should fly the Meteor in the 2021 show, just saying
Gnat- Used as a trainer. If you are 5'10" then you are to tall to get in. A lot of lessons learnt from the Gnat went into the Hawk. jet trainer.
The Gnat is not a 1960s aircraft- it first flew in 1955.
Who put a dink in the Vampire's port fuselage empennage and drop tank ? Treat your bat with care. Ther're not many of them left ! From the UK.
OUCH! 3:54
2:50 it is not a Czech, it is Polish!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL_TS-11_Iskra
need to fly that 21 before nobody is left to fly it
I think you are underselling the -21. Great video.
Thanks! The -21 is an awesome aircraft, we're lucky to have one.
the things i would do to fly these birds, especially the meteor, mig 15 and 21. oh and a mosquito of course :) edit: i believe there is an engineer who of course doesnt speak english, he worked on mig 23s and was assisting someone who had got a mig 23 into the US, not sure what the status of the aircraft is but might be worth investigating, there is some videos on youtube of it.
The Vampire "is flyable, we haven't flown it in a long time"
Huge dent in the left tail boom and trailing edge of the left wing. Might want to fix those issues first, Steve.
Gnats were extensively used in The navy.
sjoormen1 What Navy?
Pzl ts 11 iskra is Polish
Add a Hawker Hunter - best looking 2nd gen jet. Better than a RAAF Avon Sabre at low level. I flew Vampire, Avon Sabre with 30mm and sidewinders, and Mirage. www.captainbyronbailey.com
Fast forward to 2020 and mostly the civilian side of things still relies on piston power........... boring! These guys are doing it right! The lore and mystic about turbines is coming to an end........if you can afford to feed them!
TS-11 Iskra is polish. Never was built or flown by Czechs.
spchalupa. Czech markings?
@@richardpentelow655 the iskra is polish markings
Look at 2:50. Poland
How dare you sir! British planes "odd looking" - You missed out the Hawker Hunter, one of the most beautiful aircraft ever?
I agree, however that was a post war design when we had access to the German technology. The Vampire,Venom and Meteor were all designed during the war hence the "odd'" look.
You're right of course I was being a bit sensitive there about criticism of British design
at the time these early jets were designed there wasn't a standard or normal look as all the early jets were the first of their kinds, if you think the early British jets are odd, look at the first American designs like the Bell P-59 Airacomet, they only look odd because your looking at them through modern eyes where the standard design for high performance jets has been worked out
@@johndavey72 Remember our design philosophy on the first generation was to make them familiar in terms of flying characteristic to piston powered aircraft. Also the Meteor and Vampire were both designed in the war when supplies were limited so where possible used existing equipment from piston aircraft to save money.
And a lot of wood went into the Vampire. Used by all sorts of air forces.
Iskra isn't Czech. Its Polish. This one bears polish airforce markings.