Buyer Beware The Hidden Secret to Home Pricing

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
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    In this reaction video, I dive deep into Tom Scott's fascinating coverage of a round house in San Diego, an engineering marvel that spins around itself! This unique property, showcased by Tom Scott, sparks an important discussion about the true valuation of homes and the inefficiencies in the residential real estate market.
    While Tom Scott highlights the engineering marvel behind this round house in San Diego, I bring a different perspective to the table. Is this round house, despite being an engineering marvel, truly worth the price someone might be willing to pay for it? In the residential real estate market, there's a common claim that a property's worth is defined by what someone is willing to pay for it. However, I argue that this doesn't necessarily reflect the true value, especially for a property like this round house.
    Throughout this video, I revisit Tom Scott's points, explore the intricacies of the round house in San Diego, and emphasize how the engineering marvel of this house is both a strength and a potential flaw in its valuation. The residential real estate market often overlooks the inefficiencies that come with unique properties like this, making the true home valuation a complex issue.
    As I dispute the claim that a property is worth what someone is willing to pay for it, I challenge the norms of the residential real estate market, using the round house in San Diego as a prime example. Join me as I explore how this engineering marvel fits into the broader context of home valuation and market efficiency.
    Watch the full video to see why I believe this round house in San Diego is a true engineering marvel but also a testament to the inefficiencies of the residential real estate market. Is this unique property really worth what someone might be willing to pay for it? Let's find out together!
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Комментарии • 339

  • @vertigo2894
    @vertigo2894 Месяц назад +29

    Come on man, your estimation was terrible in this case. It's worth at least 3.5.

    • @ArvinHaddadOfficial
      @ArvinHaddadOfficial  Месяц назад +7

      Not with those finishes … it was gut renovation

    • @vertigo2894
      @vertigo2894 Месяц назад +14

      @@ArvinHaddadOfficial Mate, not everything is about finishes. The innovation has value too. You need to update your analytical skills.

    • @vertigo2894
      @vertigo2894 Месяц назад +4

      @@ArvinHaddadOfficial Having said that, when I buy, I would like you to to do the negogiations cause you hte overpaying. This is great for buyers. I just objected to your incredibly low evalutaion of this unique property.

    • @ArvinHaddadOfficial
      @ArvinHaddadOfficial  Месяц назад +6

      A great way to look at the real valuation here is this : Would you lend (80% mortgage) to the new owner at $3.5M valuation? I know I wouldn’t and smart money would also never lend on that valuation

    • @SEROBERT
      @SEROBERT Месяц назад

      Wait - you go by vertigo? And you’re disagreeing with Arvin? Meanwhile the house would cause vertigo - all that spinning around, so disconcerting, never mind the concerns about structural problems. 😂 I have to agree with Arvin about the finishes just making the nausea that much worse

  • @davidgmaloof
    @davidgmaloof Месяц назад +204

    The first thing I would do as a buyer is get at least one replacement unit of every unique part in this house fabricated and put into storage - preferably while the original owner is able to advise on the process. That central unit is very clever, but I wouldn't want the thing to fail and have to wait a long time for a replacement to be made. Hopefully the new owner is an engineer.

    • @sababaratashvili8629
      @sababaratashvili8629 Месяц назад +6

      Smart

    • @holgerbahr8961
      @holgerbahr8961 Месяц назад +19

      A full replacement unit would be ideal. However, if that's not available, a temporary 'static' component for emergency / backup use would suffice to keep the house's utilities running. While you wouldn't be able to rotate the house until the main '360' center unit is refurbished, you would still have access to all the essential services in the meantime.

    • @markuswunsch
      @markuswunsch Месяц назад +15

      There's a predecessor of this kind of building in Freiburg Germany called the Heliotrope Building which dates back to 1994. It's a three story rotating round home of architect Rolf Disch. Actually there are now a total of three such houses in Germany,.... so spare parts should be available.

    • @bockaj74
      @bockaj74 Месяц назад +6

      Central pivot is used on all excavators since 1960s. It never fails at >2000psi, it will never fail at miesly 3bar (water+gas)

    • @alf3071
      @alf3071 Месяц назад +1

      @@bockaj74 the seals could break from old age, what are the seals made of?

  • @amirraihan3891
    @amirraihan3891 Месяц назад +94

    The fact he came up with a new concept to build a house is amazing in it self😮😮😮

  • @MadDog_Rules
    @MadDog_Rules Месяц назад +94

    'It won't sell,' Arvin sips tea 'It sold.' 🤣

  • @kawangkwok5262
    @kawangkwok5262 Месяц назад +47

    Not my kind of house, but this video kept me a warm smile all the way, the former house owner seems very likable♥.

  • @coffeesleeves
    @coffeesleeves Месяц назад +53

    The owner is awesome! What a badass :)

    • @evanhughes3027
      @evanhughes3027 День назад

      "Do you CARE, if it rotates?" Yep. I concur.

  • @Invad3rDiz
    @Invad3rDiz Месяц назад +84

    i love this house the engineering on the plumbing is just mind blowing

    • @alf3071
      @alf3071 Месяц назад +3

      bro imagine if the seals on that rotating thing breaks and you have sewer water coming in your drinking water

    • @Invad3rDiz
      @Invad3rDiz Месяц назад +3

      @@alf3071 nothing wrong with a little protein enrichment

    • @fitah47
      @fitah47 Месяц назад +1

      @@Invad3rDiz 😂😂

    • @MultiMojo
      @MultiMojo Месяц назад +3

      @@alf3071 That's why he installed sensors between the rings, which helps alert if there is a leak. Still fixing a leak is going to be very complicated if there is any structural damage to the rings.

  • @Mr.giorgiovanni
    @Mr.giorgiovanni Месяц назад +48

    This a piece of engineering, and a project the creator will always have close in his heart.

  • @ricktandron3669
    @ricktandron3669 Месяц назад +21

    Note: The property is on Mount Helix. There is a historic outdoor amphitheater at the very top where they do Shakespeare performances a few times in the summer. It's not a crazy concert venue.

  • @danielquevedo5064
    @danielquevedo5064 Месяц назад +56

    The uniqueness of this house is what gave it it's value

    • @ArvinHaddadOfficial
      @ArvinHaddadOfficial  Месяц назад +9

      Unique is not always associated with high value (small buyer pool)

    • @ryand4533
      @ryand4533 Месяц назад +1

      More likely location and view.

  • @kristoferjakistam832
    @kristoferjakistam832 Месяц назад +16

    This residence is more of an engineering project than a normal residence. It doesn't change the fact that the owner put his heart into it and you can see how passionately he talks about it. Some time ago you talked about a residence that was supposed to be iconic (FOREST KNOLL Mansion) according to Enes. Do you think this rotating residence can be iconic?
    Do you remember your list?
    1. architecturally significant
    2. some sort of historical importance, cultural impact or a symbolic value
    3. aesthetically appealing to multiple generations
    4. have some sort of technological or innovation that has never been done before
    5. needs to be memorable
    Are points 1 and 4 met in this case?
    Very cool episode Arvin. Thanks.

  • @joedorsey7846
    @joedorsey7846 Месяц назад +35

    There is no comp for that home! People as you know will always pay more to have something very unique no one else has ❤

    • @friedrichweitzer3071
      @friedrichweitzer3071 Месяц назад

      Definitely, if we just focused on functionality everyone would drive a boring grey car and live in a box-shaped house.

    • @Blafard666
      @Blafard666 Месяц назад +3

      So not true. What you think about is "rare" not unique, rare like a luxury item. " Unique " is a nightmare, if anything break you have maybe ONE guy you can call, you better hope he is avaible 24/7 or you will be doing your dishes/laundry with sewage water for weeks ...

    • @cobracommander9138
      @cobracommander9138 Месяц назад +1

      @@Blafard666 That's the same with a rare expensive car no one can fix.

    • @giabao2046
      @giabao2046 Месяц назад

      @@cobracommander9138 a rare expensive car can be fixed, just that it cost a lot, and took quite a lot but that aint gonna matter too much because you don't drive it daily anyway. If you want to fix it but at a lower cost, you can go to a trustworthy garage which has experience dealing with that model/brand before. This thing, you have to ask the old owner to help fixing it; and when it really break down, you just have to move out for a while.

  • @vhall244
    @vhall244 Месяц назад +18

    My new favourite channel. Love Alvin's knowledge and humour.

  • @mikeletaurus4728
    @mikeletaurus4728 Месяц назад +12

    Mr. Haddad. What you fail to understand is some people aren't looking for a "wow factor" for their home. Some of us don't care at all what our "friends" think of our home. Views and spacious grounds aren't everything. In fact, they contribute very little. You are from a culture where "wow factor" still has impact. I am not. I am far more attracted to genuine happiness in a home, and that has nothing to do with square footage, number of bathrooms, or lack of hallways. We who have it need not attempt to impress. That's for the arriviste.

    • @kevinbachman6578
      @kevinbachman6578 4 дня назад

      I couldn’t agree with you more! Innovation and familial connection are far more important to me than “impressing” a bunch of people I don’t actually give a shit about. 👏🏼🙏🏽

  • @tall1sobay
    @tall1sobay Месяц назад +14

    This house isn't for everyone. I personally love it. And I find the other homes you're comparing to, to be architesteral junk. They're basic, cookie cutter with zero personality. They're just bigger suburban homes. And yes, a house is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

  • @markuswunsch
    @markuswunsch Месяц назад +18

    There's a predecessor of this kind of building in Freiburg Germany called the Heliotrope Building which dates back to 1994. It's a three story rotating round home of architect Rolf Disch. Actually there are now a total of three such houses in Germany,....

    • @startingtech3900
      @startingtech3900 21 день назад

      yeah but america is the best nation on earth and he was the first here thats all that matters

  • @deadmanschest4322
    @deadmanschest4322 Месяц назад +13

    13:34 - For exactly this reason, I personally have a strong aversion to smart home systems of any kind. Not only do all these smart home gadgets cost extra money, but they also make you dependent on a single provider (or at least an IT support in case you spend the money _and time_ for a system without a service provider)! What happens if that provider goes bankrupt after just a few years, or if the software and hardware are no longer supported?
    Not to mention the bugs in the software. I’d much rather have an old-fashioned house, even if it means getting up to turn off the kitchen light, close windows, or adjust the heating or air conditioning...
    Or, to put it in the wise words of Sgt. Roger Murtaugh -> _I'm too old for this shit!!_ ;)

    • @watching789
      @watching789 Месяц назад

      Smart home systems are the way to go fam.

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    @SamViens Месяц назад +102

    I'm 54 and my wife and I are VERY worried about our future, gas and food prices rising daily. We have had our savings dwindle with the cost of living into the stratosphere, and we are finding it impossible to replace them. We can get by, but can't seem to get ahead. My condolences to anyone retiring in this crisis, 30 years nonstop just for a crooked system to take all you worked for.

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      If you are not in the financial market space right now, you are making a huge mistake. I understand that it could be due to ignorance, but if you want to make your money work for you...prevent inflation

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  • @Vendrix86
    @Vendrix86 Месяц назад +11

    wow the former owner is amazing, what an engineering marvel

  • @tomchloe3208
    @tomchloe3208 Месяц назад +13

    I think if this system were to break beyond reasonable repair, you would just need to set the house at your desired position and put traditional plumbing and electrical in, as apossed to getting this complex system changed/fixed

    • @Shucasm
      @Shucasm Месяц назад

      Then why pay 5 mil for a house which will required extra cost in the future. Thats the actual question . You can also don't rotate the house and it will be fine but why buy this over engineered house and then not use its function . Instead buy a 5 mil another house like Arvin suggested which have more area and looks more beautiful .

    • @tomchloe3208
      @tomchloe3208 Месяц назад +1

      @@Shucasm i agree with what you say a I wouldn’t buy this house if i had the money. I meant more so, even if you dont let the house spin, those connection points will age over time, even with maintenance and eventually fail - it was those circumstances i meant. But yes, many other properties id rather buy first

  • @joeschege7050
    @joeschege7050 Месяц назад +11

    I am easily mesmerized by contemporary homes. I like how Arvin breaks it down; he is so articulate in his advice.👍

  • @sleepy670
    @sleepy670 Месяц назад +4

    Why does Arvin think size of house is what drives the cost? In our area there are 3000 SF homes that sell for $8M and 8,000 SF homes that sell for $3M. Location, views, proximity to the ocean and the quality of the home is 10000000000X more important that square footage.

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    @vanillatgif Месяц назад +43

    The right choice of an investment has always been a big problem for me I know picking a wrong investment will leave a big scar in the future..

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    • @BigNate82
      @BigNate82 Месяц назад +1

      Very possible! especially at this moment. Profits can be made in many different ways, but such intricate transactions should only be handled by seasoned market professionals.

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  • @RawliRodriguez
    @RawliRodriguez Месяц назад +8

    The new owner purchased the rights to the old owners patent. This is why the engineer is so smart and over sold. The old owner baked-in the purchase of the patent. Come’on Arvin, you should know this…

  • @PaulEHill928
    @PaulEHill928 Месяц назад +9

    Owner is absolutely brilliant. Love him. Although for some reason when watching the engineering portion I just heard Dr Ian Malcolm saying " Yeah, yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should". Ok, reviving extinct species and building a spinny house are totally different...just popped in my head. Props to the owner for envisioning something and executing it.

  • @jamielancaster01
    @jamielancaster01 Месяц назад +4

    Another excellent video thank you brother

  • @xxxxxxxxx3944
    @xxxxxxxxx3944 Месяц назад +3

    Maintenance is going to be a nightmare ! Unless you are an engineer yourself.

  • @BillyLapTop
    @BillyLapTop Месяц назад +5

    I'm guessing the sale may have been a cash transaction, as the uniqueness of the construction and the risk factors as Arvin stated would preclude a bank giving a mortgage on the this kind of deal.

  • @2richants
    @2richants Месяц назад +3

    In 10 years it will be worth double. There plenty of rich geeks that love this stuff plus its a cool different house.

  • @nomanomen4611
    @nomanomen4611 Месяц назад +9

    Volle Zustimmung bezüglich der potenziellen Risiken und es ist wunderschön das sich wer so etwas gebaut hat

  • @jamielancaster01
    @jamielancaster01 Месяц назад +4

    I stayed at a hotel where the bed wend around in circles. Love going to the space needle & eating lunch going in a circle BUT i’m not sure I want my whole house to rotate in a circle. FYI: I wouldn’t mind having that rotating bed😊

  • @TheJase8566
    @TheJase8566 Месяц назад +13

    The plumbing is amazing

    • @minigiant8998
      @minigiant8998 Месяц назад

      amazing till it breaks

    • @stormtrooper9404
      @stormtrooper9404 Месяц назад +1

      @@minigiant8998everything breaks! Nothing is forever!
      But I will bet that this system can last much much longer without breaking down, than conventional plumbing!
      It's obviously over build and over engineered, unlike your typical conventional house, where you will be happy if the crew wasn't drunk while making the instalations!

  • @matthewboes3609
    @matthewboes3609 Месяц назад +7

    Certainly not the most practical house but you can tell they put their heart, soul and brains behind this house, that's what makes it such a wonderful story. Absolutely lovely man and quite intelligentl.

  • @zuma-dude
    @zuma-dude Месяц назад +6

    “ … some of my Persian audience in Trousdale …” - This ... cracks me up because it's true. No one outside of here would understand, but the local insider stuff is awesome. Thank you for being you, in this place. 👍

  • @joegott9391
    @joegott9391 Месяц назад +4

    Compared to Artwork & Sculptures, its a deal

  • @prajamahadevan
    @prajamahadevan Месяц назад +2

    Hey Arvin, love your videos. I was wondering whether you were planning on taking a look at Enes's "Touring a $52,500,000 BATMAN Inspired Glass and Steel Mansion" Mansion. That was the video that introduced me to his channel, and the first mansion that took my heart. Hope its flaws don't outweigh its positives . Thanks 🙏🏼

  • @pjyast
    @pjyast Месяц назад +2

    8:12 a house or anything for that matter that is so niche can command insane prices due to uniqueness. You can't compare a spinning house to anything else. There are no comps. I would've listed it for 10 million tbh.

  • @thomashygum5310
    @thomashygum5310 Месяц назад +4

    that house really is iconic though. It was presented by a super big science nerd youtuber, and i cannot stress this enough: The house rotates. It is super high up, it is unique, it looks like an observatory (which is a plus), everything about it is unique and it works. Sure its not for some saudi prince who wants to party in a black marble house with a toilet made out of gold, but there are plenty of science nerds around , even ones with money to burn on a wacky science nerd house.

  • @ashleym2205
    @ashleym2205 Месяц назад +5

    Tom Scott is awesome!! 👍🏻

  • @michelfortier9563
    @michelfortier9563 Месяц назад +2

    Next time you make a video, talk about the new commission rules and how that will affect realtors and pricing of houses.

  • @dcallan812
    @dcallan812 Месяц назад +5

    We all get things wrong, even the buyer 🤣🤣🤣🤣
    🎵 you spin me right round baby🎵 great video 2x👍

  • @ethannathan8630
    @ethannathan8630 Месяц назад +2

    I bet this guys brain is reason why they are building that 360 rotating hotel in dubai xD hes patent must be in that project and my man must had pretty good money out of that 😁

  • @evanpenn1
    @evanpenn1 Месяц назад +2

    This is basically a matter of opinions. Not much here that is provable on either side. But the house had a binding offer within weeks. And it is one of one. And there are a lot of geeks out there with money. My opinion is that the house is worth the money because I think there would be other buyers willing to pay 5 million. And that's just my gut feeling, no proof available. The art market definitely operates by the theory that something is worth what someone is willing to pay. I think, that until proven otherwise, this house (that could be construed as a piece of art), is worth what it brought.

  • @livingon2wheels
    @livingon2wheels Месяц назад +3

    Amazing engineering to accomplish this vision. That is worth a lot because it's bespoke and special, something no one else has. And he really sold the benefits of being able to reposition the house for the perfect view.

  • @TheMisterMarilyn
    @TheMisterMarilyn Месяц назад +1

    AND!!! By the way…if it was so intrinsically perfect, something ain’t right with them selling it!!!!
    What I just heard him say was that it is a FULL TIME OCCUPATION to maintain the upkeep of it!! Ludicrous

  • @davethetallguy
    @davethetallguy Месяц назад +2

    So glad you did this video! Tom Scott is one of my favorite creators (his channels - plural - are worth watching) but I loved this video when I saw it. Hard core engineering geek here, but I think maintaining that house would have made me nervous too. (And it didn’t even have a view of the San Diego to LA train!)

  • @vimeopictures5170
    @vimeopictures5170 26 дней назад +1

    What are you talking about? That's a msterpiece! That guy created art! In my opinion, totally worth it! It is every engineer's dream! I wouldn't be surprised if some Tech guy from Tesla, Google, or Amazon bought it! But I get what are you trying to say. I feel this house is for someone who has loads of cash lying around. Not for average people who are planning how to pay their kids college tuitions

  • @fatdoi003
    @fatdoi003 Месяц назад +3

    you can't put a logical price on something that's unique

  • @stanlee3619
    @stanlee3619 Месяц назад +3

    Not your usual video critique, but I love your explanation and understanding of the fallacy of what something is valued at, and efficient/inefficient markets.

  • @Doubie.
    @Doubie. Месяц назад +3

    Rotary unions are pretty common but him making his own is pretty hysterical

  • @remixnv
    @remixnv Месяц назад +1

    Awesome to hear the story from the owner. Glad they managed to get the most out of it.
    Would love for you to critique this $85M NYC townhouse next: ruclips.net/video/7v4RulDkr-o/видео.html

  • @ypey1
    @ypey1 Месяц назад +3

    You dont need the expensive rotating system if you had made the house only turn 359 degrees and go back again. You can use flexible connections.

  • @hawaiihardy7285
    @hawaiihardy7285 Месяц назад +1

    I got dizzy just watching the video 😂

  • @sanethehappypill
    @sanethehappypill 28 дней назад +1

    A brain 🧠 was used here, that's why it's expensive...but the maintenance is going to be hectic... replacement for tires etc

  • @RawOlympia
    @RawOlympia Месяц назад +2

    I love this home!

  • @tehArgento
    @tehArgento Месяц назад +15

    miss my weekly tom scott

  • @cobracommander9138
    @cobracommander9138 Месяц назад +1

    If it sold for 5.1 maybe they should have put it on sale for 5.9M!

  • @austynjames9196
    @austynjames9196 Месяц назад +1

    lmfao this house is legit down the road from my moms house 😂 it’s kind of been an icon on mt helix but I never got to know much about it.

  • @froonamission1013
    @froonamission1013 Месяц назад +1

    My husband is an engineer, and this is exactly how he would approach building a house 😅

  • @doncarlodivargas5497
    @doncarlodivargas5497 Месяц назад +2

    Fun fact: the reason why they sell is to build a vertically rotating house

  • @OldmanSkeletor
    @OldmanSkeletor Месяц назад +3

    Couldn't give a s*** about the house but the engineering is fascinating what an incredible guy😊

  • @jamielancaster01
    @jamielancaster01 Месяц назад +1

    It would have to be some solid engineering to pass the city & state building codes.

  • @johnlehew8192
    @johnlehew8192 Месяц назад +1

    There’s lots of bigger homes, but this is the only one that spins. Worth every rotating penny!

  • @lamarlo4437
    @lamarlo4437 Месяц назад +2

    This isn't a house for just anyone. You have to be a special kind of person to appreciate this house. I see why they say customized homes don't sell because it's so out of the ordinary that most people are likely to skip it

  • @gimmejr
    @gimmejr Месяц назад +1

    Lucky this guy wasn't his realtor, he would have cost him $3 million.

  • @_fwd_racecar_
    @_fwd_racecar_ Месяц назад +2

    real estate is bizarre how someone will pay millions for a tiny hole in the wall apartment just because it's in downtown paris or new york, at least this is an actual house with property in sunny san diego

  • @Coys01
    @Coys01 Месяц назад +2

    Tom did well 👏

  • @conscientiousobjector5988
    @conscientiousobjector5988 Месяц назад +1

    Remember the good old days when the purpose of a home was to live in it and possibly have a family rather than use a luxury or investment item?

  • @gman21xx
    @gman21xx Месяц назад +1

    It says a lot that his wife on her own wouldn't be able to maintain it because of the complexity. I think he's a good engineer to have solved the problems to make this house a reality. But he would be legendary if he had solved the problem to the point where a totally ordinary person could maintain it in perpetuity.

    • @dennischiapello7243
      @dennischiapello7243 Месяц назад

      True--although "perpetuity" is an impossible benchmark for anything more than a lean-to! 😊

  • @raymond_sycamore
    @raymond_sycamore Месяц назад +2

    When no one is willing to pay for it then the real estate market is worthless.

  • @jeffv3296
    @jeffv3296 Месяц назад +1

    Another great video. The owner and the person hosting the video that you reacted to are awesome. I kinda disagree with your evaluation. I live in Orange County and even though I don’t go South past Mission Viejo much, I’ve known and heard about the rotating house. I think the house could absolutely be considered an “iconic” property based on its popularity, the fact that patents were actually submitted and created during its design, and its architectural significance. While I wouldn’t pay that much to live there, I could absolutely see why somebody would pay up for it.

  • @cobracommander9138
    @cobracommander9138 Месяц назад +1

    Arvin didn't even get into how the interior is extremely dated and the whole place needs to be gutted and redone to modern standards.

    • @ArvinHaddadOfficial
      @ArvinHaddadOfficial  Месяц назад +1

      Yes the exterior facade and all the interior had to also change ….. I would have priced it higher

  • @Evangelionism
    @Evangelionism Месяц назад +2

    Man's a GENIUS.

  • @AronYonis
    @AronYonis Месяц назад +2

    Do more marbella videos please 🙂

  • @dennischiapello7243
    @dennischiapello7243 Месяц назад +1

    I admire what was done here, and the owner-builder is a great, humble human being, who I'm sure has brought joy to himself and his wife. I respect him, too, because he approached his project from an engineer's curiosity and desire to create, rather than the egocentric concern of some rich jackass wanting to show off. Otherwise, I'm generally adverse to round houses. Aesthetically, this one is not too bad, but it does display the typical design flaw of approximating a circle with a series of flat panels. He used high-quality materials, however, which helps mitigate the effect.

  • @OB_GYN_Kenobi
    @OB_GYN_Kenobi Месяц назад +1

    I question the logic of having the sewer section of the unit at the top instead of the bottom; so at least if the seal fails the sewage leak is below the drinking water section.

  • @michaelharrington223
    @michaelharrington223 Месяц назад +1

    Those other properties were sold based off of market value of what somebody would pay for it. So yes obviously that house is worth 5.1 because somebody was willing to pay for it. Although that dude found his needle in the haystack. Not to mention the house has its own patents supplied 😮 hopefully this guy has a manual he is an engineer they're very well organized when it comes to their product. Not to mention my guess is he probably built a few spares at the same time even though they have a 75-year shelf life. He's an older man so I don't think it's all that complicated to run and I'm sure they have all the schematics from the ground up. If you're rich you got the money and you want your house to rotate I say pay 5.1 if that's what it takes. I agree with you in the end I would not want to have to sell this house LOL

  • @cicalcical
    @cicalcical Месяц назад +1

    I dissagree. The last owner solved a big issue in a simple manner. Yes, it has a center piece that can fail once in 75 years and if the access to that piece is ok, changing the seals it's not a big issue.

  • @ladyvee7110
    @ladyvee7110 Месяц назад

    It's round, you get 360° views, and it spins. The perpective buyer and now new owner thought these features were cool...lol. This is a very unique property and it stands out among the rest. There's no other like it in the area. That means a lot to some people. Therefore, they're willing to pay a premium for it.

  • @AxelWeber-gx2yt
    @AxelWeber-gx2yt Месяц назад +2

    In my opinion, it is a bad idea to lay the waste water connection over the drinking water connection: if a leak occurs, which is very likely to happen sooner or later, at least with movable pipe connections, the drinking water quality may be impaired to the point of being unusable. I strongly suspect that the maintenance work for supply pipes will be very expensive over the years, at least if the house is not as good as new, as is the case.

    • @markvwood2007
      @markvwood2007 Месяц назад +1

      I would have entirely reversed the order of all four.

    • @_fwd_racecar_
      @_fwd_racecar_ Месяц назад

      nobody should be drinking tap water anyway, with it already being contaminated with fluoride.

  • @rich_in_paradise
    @rich_in_paradise Месяц назад +1

    Well I guess someone really wanted a rotating house. I mean you only need one buyer.

  • @comfortsibanyoni9523
    @comfortsibanyoni9523 16 часов назад

    I would never use this guy services, he comes out with weird excuses for why you shouldn't buy the property i have yet to see a video where he actually points out valid reason for why the property shouldn't cost as much as it costs.

  • @alexandrep4913
    @alexandrep4913 5 дней назад

    I can totally get it being $5 million. It's an extremely unique house, well-engineered, and the SWE and crowd around California would absolutely buy that up, as we saw

  • @Berley_1234
    @Berley_1234 Месяц назад

    if that stuff breaks, you're in for some EXPENSIVE $$$$$$$$ repairs

  • @motionsick
    @motionsick Месяц назад

    We are in the future. People like gadgets and motors. Seems like it could have cost 1 million dollars just to get that slip ring certified for gas.

  • @ArquitecturaChile
    @ArquitecturaChile Месяц назад

    I love your site. Reminds me of university workshop finals

  • @charlesoboyle4787
    @charlesoboyle4787 22 дня назад

    The utilities-could come up-DEAD CENTER- through the hollow center spindle that rotates the house--they would be fixed-
    Perhaps the electricity could have a spring loaded contact-like the carbon"brush" on an electric motor/alternator-it would need to be periodically replaced
    The water sewerage could also come up from the center-but with a sleeve with bearings and some very good seals-very good bearings very good seals
    Oh a house is worth what you can convince someone to pay for it-good salesmen/agents get better prices
    Oh-forget about natural gas-it could be done-but friction/heat/boom.

  • @jeffreylevin9728
    @jeffreylevin9728 Месяц назад

    Direct from Accounting Standards Codification 820 - Fair Value. The price that would be received to sell an asset or paid to transfer a liability in an orderly transaction between market participants at the measurement date. So YES, what a willing buyer and willing seller agree to and exchange is FAIR VALUE.

  • @forddon
    @forddon 17 дней назад

    With proper engineering (and I assume this guy could have done it) it would be easy the have provisions for stationary bypass piping, in an emergency you could quickly switch over, you just couldn't rotate the house until you fix the problem

  • @gatsbylight4766
    @gatsbylight4766 Месяц назад

    I was waiting for a _philosophical_ argument as to why a property is *not* worth _"whatever someone will pay for it."_ However, it appears that Arvin was not being philosophical. Therefore, I'd have to say it's kinda hard to argue that this house is not worth *$5.1 million dollars,* when you just received *$5.1 million dollars* for it. And considering how quickly it sold, that makes it equally hard to argue that this valuation is an anomaly or that this was a Black Swan buyer.

  • @tedjohnson64
    @tedjohnson64 Месяц назад

    How did this home get insured? There’s no way the electrical system, plumbing, septic, etc passed inspection.
    How is an insurance company going to assess risk, when there’s no history of similar systems? It also looks like it’s on a brush covered hillside, which is a fire hazard.
    Arvin makes an excellent point: good luck trying to find someone to fix it when something goes wrong. It’s hard enough trying to get a regular tradesman to show up.
    I seriously doubt that those seals will last 75 years. Sealing gas? Sealing liquid? Great for a while…
    He literally invented the liquid/gas slip ring implementation, so there’s zero historical precedent he can draw on to support his claim that it won’t leak for 75 years.
    Even if it does last for another ~50 years, then what? Good luck finding replacement parts.
    And you’re taking on faith that his alert monitoring system is working. I’m sure it worked initially, but all components fail over time.
    There’s no simple way to do a “confidence test” of his alert system, so the first notice that they’ve failed… will be catastrophic. And no one will be able to repair it in a timely fashion. I wonder if that thought is responsible for a few of his heart procedures?
    Still, it’s an awesome location and interesting engineering exercise.

  • @nowkentapplegate5315
    @nowkentapplegate5315 25 дней назад

    Having had a house in the Hills above Bronson Canyon. I would pay 5.1 because it would be worth it for the experience. What you're paying for is the egineering. A nice place doesn't have to be huge. Yeah I'd do the maintenance.

  • @1bluensx
    @1bluensx Месяц назад

    I just fear that if something breaks on it, gas, sewer, plumbing, electrical…there would be nobody that know how to fix it. And the people that do, would gouge you as much as they wanted to. Want new plumbing? 1 million…. Whatever they choose

  • @charlesoboyle4787
    @charlesoboyle4787 22 дня назад

    His gadget-things like that are used in the petroleum industry.They also have spinning pipes with various "fluids" going up and down.
    When he says GAS-I am wondering if he means natural gas-or "sewer gas" the air that is always in normal sewer lines? Or maybe it is NG?

  • @quiet_one8061
    @quiet_one8061 Месяц назад

    Disagree above 1.9 million dollars. Worth more than that, you have to give some value to the uniqueness of the property which you aren't. Admittedly $5 million is too much , but 3-4 mill isn't unreasonable.

  • @patrickmorris3721
    @patrickmorris3721 Месяц назад

    Every same idea that is used in every excavator track machine.
    It’s called a hydraulic manifold or distributor. It lets you rotating 360 continuously. 👍🔥

  • @Scorpionturtle
    @Scorpionturtle Месяц назад

    this house will be in architecture books as well as being a local landmark building and frankly 90% of the houses you critique will look dated in 10 years if they don't already. Yes there is a far smaller pool of buyers but much more invested buyers. This house will always sell every time it goes on the market. I can only laugh at what you would value the homes of Frank Lloyd Wright if he was building now.

  • @giovannidigitalart
    @giovannidigitalart Месяц назад

    Fantastic video. This house feels like a work of art and valuation ended up falling on the subjective. Realtors have a fiduciary obligation to give u facts, personal, and professional opinions. Remember, as Arvind says, these homes can be personalized, but in the end, they belong to future generations. Getting this to sell later will be an uphill battle. Realtors have to future-proof your purchase. What u do after all the advice, of course, is up to the buyer.

  • @gj1234567899999
    @gj1234567899999 Месяц назад

    Something is worth what someone is willing to pay for it is true. Because not everything is a commodity. many things have feelings and emotions attached to them that one person has and another person has no feelings and attachments. An example is when I was a kid. A cereal gave away free plastic ninja turtle bowls shrink wrapped to the cereal box as a promotion. So the cost of this cheap plastic bowl was maybe $2. On eBay they are selling a set of ninja turtle bowls for $1000! Why? Because you have rich doctors and lawyers who have money and will pay for that nostalgia of their childhood.
    This moving house has many videos about it and notoriety that no other house has.

  • @johnaspinall4096
    @johnaspinall4096 Месяц назад

    I watch your channel all the time and think how cool the homes are across the world. This house is in my neighborhood! You are right! There are WAY better homes on mt helix. That is not a private property. You can see the entire property from the road above. However the views are incredible. Its 15 miles inland and you can see all the way to the ocean unobstructed. Theres a large public viewing area on the peak of the mtn which gets plenty of traffic. I think you're spot on with your review. Its amazing engineering but would be rough to live there. I hope whoever bought it loves it