Ok so its been 15 minutes since I uploaded this video and I am now realizing that Bilbo Baggins isn't even in The Lord of the Rings and is a character in The Hobbit, so just pretend like I said Frodo Baggins and move on. Asshole.
God Damn The Sun off The Burning World is a great song. I feel like The Burning World is not their best album at all but it's not as awful as people make it out to be.
The Burning World is the only Swans album that's missing on Swans' bandcamp. It's also the only Swans album I own on vinyl. Full time bangers, I'm all for this mellow americana that, I'm pretty sure, directly inspired Those Poor Bastards and the like.
big strong boss stops in such an out of place way because they ran out of tape in the middle of recording. thats also why it starts so weird, basically cuts in
Let It Come Down, Jane Mary, Cry One Tear, (She's a) Universal Emptiness and See No More by virtue of that intro alone are all certified acoustic delicacies in my book.
I think 'My father...' is one of the most underrated swans releases. Some of my favorite swans tracks are on that album, I love the kind of Americana that seeps through, but doesnt on the 'Trilogy' albums.
Honestly soundtracks for the blind doesnt feel like 2 hours and 20 minutes for me. Ill never get tired of listening to it, and every single time i listen it, i always feel like the time flies.
SFTB's length is a non issue for me as it's not supposed to be listened to as a typical album, moreso an all encompassing cosmic journey. i can see where other people fall short with SFTB but honestly i feel that if you don't like how long it is, you're missing the point.
Keep in mind, I still gave SFTB a high 9/10. The length was the only issue I had with it and even with that said it didn't ruin the album for me by any means. Just something I didn't personally enjoy.
i loved this video, but i wish he took more of a creative, artistic view of these albums. not only are these albums sonically fantastic, but the lyrical content and the meanings sre pretty dark and impactful. i just wish he took more of the mental, twisted side of gira
Going to see Swans in Glasgow tonight, August 16 2023, and watched your legacy review prior to heading out. Very, very good. One thing about that band is they're always looking forward, never back.
I often find myself being negatively biased when I hear someone mentioning that they only listen to hiphop but one can easily forget how broad and incredible of a genre hip-hop can be and the countless influences it has. So someone open-minded can provide insightful opinions and easily venture into other genres and this video confirms that. I still haven't listened to every swans record nor do I have the patience to listen to them chronologically so your video helps decide what to listen to next. Nice
You kinda talked yourself out of that negative bias there, but honestly I think you're on to something. Hip hop is awesome, but it is definitely limited as a genre. Diverse samples can only take it so far in my opinion. I think people who only listen to hip hop and never branch out to listen to the music that inspired and influences rap are doing themselves a disservice.
When it comes to their earlier heavy material, the Young God EP is some of the best content they put out, aside from Filth. It's also noteworthy because it was Kurt Cobain's favourite Swans release, as well as one of his overall favourite records. I also really enjoy the Swans self-titled EP, which sounds unlike anything in their discography. Heavy use of saxophone and overall much more punk sounding. I also consider Swans Are Dead to be an essential listen, depsite it being a live album. Tracks like Feel Happiness, which aren't on any of their studio albums, as well as the best versions of songs like Blood Promise, Hypogirl, and Low Life Form.
During Swan's hiatus in the late 90s/2000s Gira released several albums under Angels of Light which are basically a slightly stripped down, slightly more acoustic version of Swans. Well worth checking out
So tired of new swans fans absolutely shitting on the burning world. Sure it’s not as groundbreaking as soundtracks or children of God but I believe it’s essential to their sound especially as gira Improved and expanded upon it in White light and especially angels of light. It’s a very pleasant straight up neo folk album and a huge breather after the huge Onslaught that was Filth, cop, and greed/holymoney a calm after the storm. Tho I think white light and love of life are their crowning achievement along with soundtracks those are tied as what I believe are swans at their creative and physical peak.
I don't see enough people give White Light and Love of Life the credit they deserve. They've become quite couple of my favorites over the years. I like how folky the Burning World is but maybe people didn't like it because of how different it was compared to the previous albums but it is also popular to hate haha
Glad I found someone else who loves Filth but not Cop. I know Gira has criticised the drums on Filth but to me it feels like audio from some sort of industrial horror film. It's very claustrophobic and punishing while Cop loses that
3 years late, but I have to commend you for your utter bravery. "Looking to diversify my music taste a little from hip-hop" and jumping into Swans is analogous to wanting to learn to swim and subsequently backflipping into the mouth of an active volcano. If you ever can, see them live. My ears are still ringing from a 2016 show in Buenos Aires, but the ritual sacrifice was well worth it. Also, the live albums should NOT be overlooked. "Swans Are Dead" has some unique live tracks that are among their best (Feel Happiness). Delicquesence also has the 45-minute The Knot, their opener for their Glowing Man tour.
Without mentioning Skin & Angels of Light it's not possible to get a full perspective on Swans discography. The albums which sit between the punctuation marking the change in Swans style are just as important. I don't think I'd have become the Swans fan I did if I'd not experienced Blood Women Roses at the same time I did Holy Money. That the same musicians created such different music blew my mind.
We all have different tastes, and we might be coming from different cultural backgrounds, but the most important thing each of us can do, as individuals, is to get really, really high.
Very interesting commentary. Speaking of post rock trilogies, I highly recommend you the pioneers of the movement, Talk Talk. More subtle and almost disintegrated, their last two albums (Spirit Of Eden and Laughing Stock) together with their singer Mark Hollis solo album seven years later form, for me, some kind of mesmerising trilogy, a counterpart to the three classic albums of Swans. Not as big in scope, but certainly as profound and totally different.
Couldn't agree more with your thoughts on the glowing man. It's almost like a film or play, with many acts and rises and falls. Frankie m and cloud of unknowing are so colossal and enveloping in ways I've never heard in music before
My favorite album of theirs is a side project Ten Songs From Another World. From the World of Skin moniker. It has the best parts of WLFTMOI and the softer stuff. But nailed it in my opinion. Edit: I also shouldn't include their live album Kill the Child' of mid 80's material. It's just their cacophony and crescendo drone live is so much more intense and powerful than the studio albums. Probably goes for all their live albums.
Great video. I'm personally not a fan of Greed and Holy Money either, but I think the live versions on Public Castration is a Good Idea are really good. They're very slow and repetitive, they sound very ritualistic. The entire sound is massive and songs like Coward get so much more hellish
@@JacksonBurnsYT Thanks! I am curious how you got interested in swans if mainly interested in hip hop - what the crossover appeal was into swans? Diversity is a great thing.
@@dirtypearl I’m part of the TheNeedleDrop discord server and someone else was starting to go thru the swans discography so I decided to listen along with him
Bravo. Even I haven't attempted the whole Swans disocraphy. I had the same feelings about 'Glowing Man' as you do about 'Leaving" (which I love) - expectations. However just recently I played it and am reappraising it.
I've tried to explain this to people in my discord server before, but my scores are usually me trying to be unbiased and my chart is based off of personal enjoyment. It's stupid but it makes sense to me lol
@@JacksonBurnsYT I feel you, although if a random unbiased listener rated filth I doubt they would give it a 7 lol - I personally rate albums based on my overall enjoyment. Liked the video though! Be careful with getting copyright strikes.
This is 2 years too late but Blind isn't from White Light From the Mouth of Infinity, its from a Gira solo album called "Drainland" and it was added as a bonus track for the reissue.
honestly from what i've seen you either like cop or you like filth, i agree with you on the case, cop felt boring and with how filth was already way more chaotic and powerful it felt like i was just kind of sitting in a puddle of the leftover waterfall of Filth. aside from that i love the rest of swans discography, greed, burning world, etc all included
It’s cool how many differing opinions people have on this band’s discography. I really like filth a lot, but to me cop tops it in almost every way. It’s one of my most listened to albums of theirs. The way the drums and bass sound is so immense, and all the auxiliary percussion sounds mixed in gives the whole thing a really unique sound. The stretch from why hide through cop is just too good. The frantic, upbeat sound of filth is totally awesome in it’s own way for sure though. Probably depends on listener background a lot too. Before I found swans I was listening to a lot of sludge, doom, and “post-metal” aka. Bands that were directly inspired by this era of swans.
@@trevorhewitt9477 ah well background wise that makes a lot of sense, i'm not into any sorts of sludge doom or post metal (maybe a tiny bit of post metal).
@@RC--ji2ov what's funny is that I don't mind sludge. I have a vinyl of Dopesmoker (it takes three sides), and I've actually listened to it a couple times (bad decision, the need to change plates takes you out of the zone big time). But Cop just gives you this "is it close to the end yet?" feel, where you constantly check the runtime, and grow more and more astonished by how little time has passed.
RYM/AOTY - the channel. That 'favourite albums' list at the start is so....unique. Kidding, of course, every early 20s white dude into off-mainstream hip-hop has the exact same fucking list. The Burning World is a fine album, it just doesn't fit as well into their discography because it's filled with compromises for the label. No standout tracks? It has 'God Damn The Sun', among their finest releases, and conceptually very important for future work. Microgenre and score obsessed. I mean this totally honestly and without wanting to come across as pretentious - you're approaching a band like Swans totally wrong. There's a whole spectrum of music that will fail to 'impress' with this approach.
I'm sure you've possibly already discovered them, but if not you'd love Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Your Skinny Fists and Luciferian Towers are incredible albums
leaving meaning is a pretty neat album imo. I think it got a lot of hate because it didn't live up to The Trilogy, but I don't think it was trying to. I think leaving meaning is a "testing the waters" album. That album basically says "The Glowing Man cannot be topped with that same sound, so lets try something new."
Now check out the live records. They’re just as good if not better with better versions of their studio tracks. Especially Swans Are Dead. And I love hip hop as much as I love weird shit like Swans so I think you’ll enjoy it
I absolutely loved The Glowing Man, quite enjoyed To Be Kind and Soundtracks for the Blind didn't quite hit me right at the time, but that's all the Swans I've listened to. I really wanna get into all their shit, but there's so much of it and I don't have that much time.
Appreciate your love and respect for The Glowing Man, Jackson. Because of where it fell in the trilogy and the fake accusation against Gira by sociopath Larkin Grimm, I felt the record got criminally overlooked. Like you said, it's a goddamned masterpiece.
The Glowing Man is not overlooked at all. People often recognise it as one of their best. But yes, the accusations were bullshit. Even her own bandmates came to Gira's defence
I listened through their discography as well, and I respect the hell out of the band, but my reviews may not be as glowing as some people: 1. To Be Kind | 8/10 | Great 2. The Seer | 8/10 | Great 3. The Glowing Man | 7/10 | Good 4. Children of God | 7/10 | Good 5. The Great Annihilator | 7/10 | Good 6. Leaving Meaning | 7/10 | Good 7. Soundtracks For the Blind | 6.5/10 | Pretty Good 8. White Light from the Mouth of Infinity | 6.5/10 | Pretty Good 9. My Father Will Guide Me Up a Rope to the Sky | 6/10 | Okay 10. The Burning World | 5.5/10 | Not Bad 11. Greed | 5.5/10 | Not Bad 12. Holy Money | 5.5/10 | Not Bad 13. Body to Body Job to Job | 4.5/10 | Not Good 14. Filth | 4.5/10 | Not Good 15. Love of Life | 4/10 | Weak 16. Cop | 3/10 | Bad
Hard disagree. I usually don’t care about peoples opinions but my god is yours shit. Explain why you don’t like Soundtracks? It seems like you’re just trying to be pretentious for pretentious’ sake.
@@coldercoronet6248 Seriously? He literally just scored their albums. It's not like there's some review attached explaining why he's above Swans or something. Imagine getting annoyed over someone's opinion on a band
@@user295. Fr, anyone clowning him are as pretentious as they claim the original comment is. All he did was score the albums based off his enjoyment and because he didn’t like it as much as other people, he’s getting called pretentious? How idiotic
Kids these days. Listening to 15 albums shouldn't be a chore. Why don't you go out and teach your dog to catch a frisbee or something? The records will wait. My favorite Swans albums are "Public Castration" and "Blood, Women, Roses". Gira's alcoholism ruined much of what came after. Since "The Seer", he has been attracting musicians good enough to carry him. Fight me over it.
thank g-d. I've got a dinner with my boss and the head of region tonight, and I know that Swans album question is going to come up probably over dessert, when I'm not ready for it.
The problem I’ve always had with Cop is that, while the guitar is quite a bit heavier, it’s missing the pulverizing punch of the two drums/two bass rhythm section from Filth. I also feel like Godflesh did what Swans did on Cop much better with Streetcleaner in 1989
I agree with the glowing man rating as well. Tho idk your being to harsh on the burning man ablum. Yeah its their worst ablum but swans at there worst is most good bands at there best. Still think it's a superb ablum
@@jeffw2004 I’m probably several years younger than the dude in the video, and I discovered swans recently through the no wave stuff because I love punk, but my favorites ended up being soundtracks and the glowing man. The pronunciation was the least of my worries until I got berated for it in a discussion with a fellow fan
As a Major Swans fan that migrated over from Reddit, I have fighting words with ya. BURNING WORLD IS THE GREATEST NEO-FOLK ALBUM. /s Tbh though, I would sooner pick up Burning World then most neo-folk albums.
So how would you rank their albums? Considering you didn’t like most of their early discography, and even tho you did say you liked filth it sounds like you still got problems with it, genuinely curious since I’m trying to get into them, and I don’t know where to start
I kinda want you to listen to Godspeed! Black Emperor now. Lift your skinny fists will probably transcend you into heaven itself. Or at least be a amazing listening experience
Only heard their EP and F#A#. Awesome stuff. Lift Your Skinny Fists I'm waiting for the right moment. I heard the first crescendo and said "Fuck, this is a special album. Too special to listen to right now".
Thankyou mr. burns. Ifeel ashamed that I didnt really know much or heard much of Swans. I now have an idea of how to start with them. Intelligent and unpretentious reviewing of their albums. I appreciate your delivery. Onya mate!
Ok so its been 15 minutes since I uploaded this video and I am now realizing that Bilbo Baggins isn't even in The Lord of the Rings and is a character in The Hobbit, so just pretend like I said Frodo Baggins and move on. Asshole.
He is in Lord of the Rings, he’s just not a main character
You just played yourself.
@@punkfan3280 yeah, right. and Grizzly Adams had a beard!
Im not sure you're going it get to this comment or not, but Have you listened to SWANS's most recent album, The Beggar?
I thought it was pretty great.
Also have your opinions changed on any of they're albums?
No pain, no death, no fear, no hate
No time, no now, no suffering
Love that song so much
No more gods, no more graves, no more love-
wait a minute...
The only thing stronger than to be kind in this video, is this mans jawline
ngl issa slick jawline tho
And Soundtracks for the Blind
Legend says the gigachad took influence from his jawline
God Damn The Sun off The Burning World is a great song. I feel like The Burning World is not their best album at all but it's not as awful as people make it out to be.
Ikr? How is he just gonna diss that song like that? Even Gira who hates the project agrees it’s one of his best songs.
One my favorite Swans songs.
@@alecredfearn6525 Same. I also love the acoustic version Gira did later on.
The Burning World is the only Swans album that's missing on Swans' bandcamp.
It's also the only Swans album I own on vinyl. Full time bangers, I'm all for this mellow americana that, I'm pretty sure, directly inspired Those Poor Bastards and the like.
I agree. He is criminal to forget it
big strong boss stops in such an out of place way because they ran out of tape in the middle of recording. thats also why it starts so weird, basically cuts in
Godflesh is a continuous worship of Swans first two albums and we love them for those
Mainly you can hear their sound in the live stuff they did in the mid 80's.
The Burning world has some amazingly soulful songs ... it grows on you.
Let It Come Down, Jane Mary, Cry One Tear, (She's a) Universal Emptiness and See No More by virtue of that intro alone are all certified acoustic delicacies in my book.
"The Glowing Man is a 10 and is the best Swans album"
Fucking agreed. I love TGM.
is that the one with Frankie M? I do agree that is a good one, ha, but not best.
Damn, not even close
Same! That and The Seer
I think 'My father...' is one of the most underrated swans releases. Some of my favorite swans tracks are on that album, I love the kind of Americana that seeps through, but doesnt on the 'Trilogy' albums.
Honestly soundtracks for the blind doesnt feel like 2 hours and 20 minutes for me. Ill never get tired of listening to it, and every single time i listen it, i always feel like the time flies.
SFTB's length is a non issue for me as it's not supposed to be listened to as a typical album, moreso an all encompassing cosmic journey. i can see where other people fall short with SFTB but honestly i feel that if you don't like how long it is, you're missing the point.
Keep in mind, I still gave SFTB a high 9/10. The length was the only issue I had with it and even with that said it didn't ruin the album for me by any means. Just something I didn't personally enjoy.
@@JacksonBurnsYT that's fair, i'm glad you enjoyed it for what it is regardless
The Burning World is fine. God Damn the Sun is one of their best songs.
Fucking thank you
Yes
Great video, I may not necessarily agree with everything you said but you make good points and I can respect it.
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i loved this video, but i wish he took more of a creative, artistic view of these albums. not only are these albums sonically fantastic, but the lyrical content and the meanings sre pretty dark and impactful. i just wish he took more of the mental, twisted side of gira
Going to see Swans in Glasgow tonight, August 16 2023, and watched your legacy review prior to heading out. Very, very good. One thing about that band is they're always looking forward, never back.
I often find myself being negatively biased when I hear someone mentioning that they only listen to hiphop but one can easily forget how broad and incredible of a genre hip-hop can be and the countless influences it has. So someone open-minded can provide insightful opinions and easily venture into other genres and this video confirms that. I still haven't listened to every swans record nor do I have the patience to listen to them chronologically so your video helps decide what to listen to next. Nice
You kinda talked yourself out of that negative bias there, but honestly I think you're on to something. Hip hop is awesome, but it is definitely limited as a genre. Diverse samples can only take it so far in my opinion. I think people who only listen to hip hop and never branch out to listen to the music that inspired and influences rap are doing themselves a disservice.
When it comes to their earlier heavy material, the Young God EP is some of the best content they put out, aside from Filth. It's also noteworthy because it was Kurt Cobain's favourite Swans release, as well as one of his overall favourite records. I also really enjoy the Swans self-titled EP, which sounds unlike anything in their discography. Heavy use of saxophone and overall much more punk sounding.
I also consider Swans Are Dead to be an essential listen, depsite it being a live album. Tracks like Feel Happiness, which aren't on any of their studio albums, as well as the best versions of songs like Blood Promise, Hypogirl, and Low Life Form.
During Swan's hiatus in the late 90s/2000s Gira released several albums under Angels of Light which are basically a slightly stripped down, slightly more acoustic version of Swans. Well worth checking out
So tired of new swans fans absolutely shitting on the burning world. Sure it’s not as groundbreaking as soundtracks or children of God but I believe it’s essential to their sound especially as gira Improved and expanded upon it in White light and especially angels of light. It’s a very pleasant straight up neo folk album and a huge breather after the huge Onslaught that was Filth, cop, and greed/holymoney a calm after the storm. Tho I think white light and love of life are their crowning achievement along with soundtracks those are tied as what I believe are swans at their creative and physical peak.
I don't see enough people give White Light and Love of Life the credit they deserve. They've become quite couple of my favorites over the years. I like how folky the Burning World is but maybe people didn't like it because of how different it was compared to the previous albums but it is also popular to hate haha
there are so many bands that wish that their worst album is the burning world
Glad I found someone else who loves Filth but not Cop. I know Gira has criticised the drums on Filth but to me it feels like audio from some sort of industrial horror film. It's very claustrophobic and punishing while Cop loses that
3 years late, but I have to commend you for your utter bravery. "Looking to diversify my music taste a little from hip-hop" and jumping into Swans is analogous to wanting to learn to swim and subsequently backflipping into the mouth of an active volcano.
If you ever can, see them live. My ears are still ringing from a 2016 show in Buenos Aires, but the ritual sacrifice was well worth it. Also, the live albums should NOT be overlooked. "Swans Are Dead" has some unique live tracks that are among their best (Feel Happiness). Delicquesence also has the 45-minute The Knot, their opener for their Glowing Man tour.
Without mentioning Skin & Angels of Light it's not possible to get a full perspective on Swans discography. The albums which sit between the punctuation marking the change in Swans style are just as important. I don't think I'd have become the Swans fan I did if I'd not experienced Blood Women Roses at the same time I did Holy Money. That the same musicians created such different music blew my mind.
*Thank you.*
...or Ten Songs From Anothe World
I like this video alot Swans is my favorite band
That being said, I whole heartedly recommend that you through Pink Floyd’s discography next
We all have different tastes, and we might be coming from different cultural backgrounds, but the most important thing each of us can do, as individuals, is to get really, really high.
Very interesting commentary. Speaking of post rock trilogies, I highly recommend you the pioneers of the movement, Talk Talk. More subtle and almost disintegrated, their last two albums (Spirit Of Eden and Laughing Stock) together with their singer Mark Hollis solo album seven years later form, for me, some kind of mesmerising trilogy, a counterpart to the three classic albums of Swans. Not as big in scope, but certainly as profound and totally different.
Goddamn the sun off of burning world is one of the best swans song ever written
I saw Swans in the late 90's in Cambridge, Ma. I have to say I was quite impressed.
0:00 Larkin’s bandmates said she has a history of making false accusations, feel free to enjoy Swans for now
Couldn't agree more with your thoughts on the glowing man. It's almost like a film or play, with many acts and rises and falls. Frankie m and cloud of unknowing are so colossal and enveloping in ways I've never heard in music before
I dont have to but I really want, I'm obsessed with Gira and Strange/Unique bands, just otherworldly stuff
I'm enjoying your videos quite a lot
You seem very genuine &
+Pretty focused on the history which I like
My favorite album of theirs is a side project Ten Songs From Another World. From the World of Skin moniker. It has the best parts of WLFTMOI and the softer stuff. But nailed it in my opinion.
Edit: I also shouldn't include their live album Kill the Child' of mid 80's material. It's just their cacophony and crescendo drone live is so much more intense and powerful than the studio albums. Probably goes for all their live albums.
The Burning World hate spotted
Opinion ignored
God Damn The Sun was the first song I heard from The Swans, based on an interview I heard with Maynard James Keenan about five of his favorite songs
Haven’t watched the entire video, but I am here to update everyone along the way. I am about to start The Great Annihilator at this moment.
Great video. I'm personally not a fan of Greed and Holy Money either, but I think the live versions on Public Castration is a Good Idea are really good. They're very slow and repetitive, they sound very ritualistic. The entire sound is massive and songs like Coward get so much more hellish
COP, GREED, HOLY MONEY , CHILDREN OF GOD and GREAT ANNIHILATOR - nothing better.
One of the best thing about Swans fans is the diversity in opinion, almost every person I talk to thinks differently about each album, it's amazing.
@@JacksonBurnsYT Thanks! I am curious how you got interested in swans if mainly interested in hip hop - what the crossover appeal was into swans? Diversity is a great thing.
@@dirtypearl I’m part of the TheNeedleDrop discord server and someone else was starting to go thru the swans discography so I decided to listen along with him
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As an industrial musician, and fan. The Swans are essential. Especially Filth, and Soundtracks for the Blind.
Bravo. Even I haven't attempted the whole Swans disocraphy. I had the same feelings about 'Glowing Man' as you do about 'Leaving" (which I love) - expectations. However just recently I played it and am reappraising it.
Great video dude! Beat me to the punch for my swans video but good on you bro, fantastic dissection of a fantastic group!
TWO GOATS
COP gotta be my fav Swans album
Brilliant video thank you. I am slowly properly dipping my toes into Swans although I have been aware of them for many years, so this was interesting!
I'm sorry, but how does filth rank in your top albums of all time if you wouldn't score it above a 7?
I've tried to explain this to people in my discord server before, but my scores are usually me trying to be unbiased and my chart is based off of personal enjoyment. It's stupid but it makes sense to me lol
@@JacksonBurnsYT I feel you, although if a random unbiased listener rated filth I doubt they would give it a 7 lol - I personally rate albums based on my overall enjoyment. Liked the video though! Be careful with getting copyright strikes.
IS THAT BEGOTTEN ON YOUR TOPPER!?
Yes it is! Shoutout to Pad Chennington for introducing me to him, his shit is great.
@@JacksonBurnsYT Pad is indeed a cool dude
bruh begotten sucks and has a literal creepypasta for a backstory why do people like it lmao
This is 2 years too late but Blind isn't from White Light From the Mouth of Infinity, its from a Gira solo album called "Drainland" and it was added as a bonus track for the reissue.
honestly from what i've seen you either like cop or you like filth, i agree with you on the case, cop felt boring and with how filth was already way more chaotic and powerful it felt like i was just kind of sitting in a puddle of the leftover waterfall of Filth. aside from that i love the rest of swans discography, greed, burning world, etc all included
It’s cool how many differing opinions people have on this band’s discography. I really like filth a lot, but to me cop tops it in almost every way. It’s one of my most listened to albums of theirs. The way the drums and bass sound is so immense, and all the auxiliary percussion sounds mixed in gives the whole thing a really unique sound. The stretch from why hide through cop is just too good. The frantic, upbeat sound of filth is totally awesome in it’s own way for sure though. Probably depends on listener background a lot too. Before I found swans I was listening to a lot of sludge, doom, and “post-metal” aka. Bands that were directly inspired by this era of swans.
@@trevorhewitt9477 ah well background wise that makes a lot of sense, i'm not into any sorts of sludge doom or post metal (maybe a tiny bit of post metal).
Filth for me went by in a heartbeat.
Cop felt like the entire EATEOT after 3 tracks.
@@JeanMarceaux same but filth was like an awesome power through, whereas cop felt like a long drawn out sludgefest, in a bad way, for me.
@@RC--ji2ov what's funny is that I don't mind sludge. I have a vinyl of Dopesmoker (it takes three sides), and I've actually listened to it a couple times (bad decision, the need to change plates takes you out of the zone big time). But Cop just gives you this "is it close to the end yet?" feel, where you constantly check the runtime, and grow more and more astonished by how little time has passed.
RYM/AOTY - the channel. That 'favourite albums' list at the start is so....unique. Kidding, of course, every early 20s white dude into off-mainstream hip-hop has the exact same fucking list. The Burning World is a fine album, it just doesn't fit as well into their discography because it's filled with compromises for the label. No standout tracks? It has 'God Damn The Sun', among their finest releases, and conceptually very important for future work. Microgenre and score obsessed. I mean this totally honestly and without wanting to come across as pretentious - you're approaching a band like Swans totally wrong. There's a whole spectrum of music that will fail to 'impress' with this approach.
Yes, and every mu, Fantano d rider, and music elitist have the same lists as well.
If only you put this much effort into a job application. Whiny bltch
I'm sure you've possibly already discovered them, but if not you'd love Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Your Skinny Fists and Luciferian Towers are incredible albums
You should check out swans are dead, it’s very similar to soundtracks but without the ambient tracks
leaving meaning is a pretty neat album imo. I think it got a lot of hate because it didn't live up to The Trilogy, but I don't think it was trying to. I think leaving meaning is a "testing the waters" album. That album basically says "The Glowing Man cannot be topped with that same sound, so lets try something new."
Oh wow. Begotten suprised me
In a good way?
@@JacksonBurnsYT Yeah
Now check out the live records. They’re just as good if not better with better versions of their studio tracks. Especially Swans Are Dead.
And I love hip hop as much as I love weird shit like Swans so I think you’ll enjoy it
The live version of Blood Promise always makes me sob my eyes out
@@coldercoronet6248 The Sound does the same for me
The Glowing Man feels way longer than soundtracks for the blind u tripping
@teirvsedei "feels"
I absolutely loved The Glowing Man, quite enjoyed To Be Kind and Soundtracks for the Blind didn't quite hit me right at the time, but that's all the Swans I've listened to. I really wanna get into all their shit, but there's so much of it and I don't have that much time.
Appreciate your love and respect for The Glowing Man, Jackson. Because of where it fell in the trilogy and the fake accusation against Gira by sociopath Larkin Grimm, I felt the record got criminally overlooked. Like you said, it's a goddamned masterpiece.
The Glowing Man is not overlooked at all. People often recognise it as one of their best. But yes, the accusations were bullshit. Even her own bandmates came to Gira's defence
The Burning World is a fucking amazing record ❤ 🔥
You should listen to Lingua Ignota, the body, author & punisher
Stopped watching after you said you don't like Cop.
Thoughts on Public Castration? I actually think that is their magnum opus
I listened through their discography as well, and I respect the hell out of the band, but my reviews may not be as glowing as some people:
1. To Be Kind | 8/10 | Great
2. The Seer | 8/10 | Great
3. The Glowing Man | 7/10 | Good
4. Children of God | 7/10 | Good
5. The Great Annihilator | 7/10 | Good
6. Leaving Meaning | 7/10 | Good
7. Soundtracks For the Blind | 6.5/10 | Pretty Good
8. White Light from the Mouth of Infinity | 6.5/10 | Pretty Good
9. My Father Will Guide Me Up a Rope to the Sky | 6/10 | Okay
10. The Burning World | 5.5/10 | Not Bad
11. Greed | 5.5/10 | Not Bad
12. Holy Money | 5.5/10 | Not Bad
13. Body to Body Job to Job | 4.5/10 | Not Good
14. Filth | 4.5/10 | Not Good
15. Love of Life | 4/10 | Weak
16. Cop | 3/10 | Bad
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Pretentious
Hard disagree. I usually don’t care about peoples opinions but my god is yours shit. Explain why you don’t like Soundtracks? It seems like you’re just trying to be pretentious for pretentious’ sake.
@@coldercoronet6248 Seriously? He literally just scored their albums. It's not like there's some review attached explaining why he's above Swans or something. Imagine getting annoyed over someone's opinion on a band
@@user295. Fr, anyone clowning him are as pretentious as they claim the original comment is. All he did was score the albums based off his enjoyment and because he didn’t like it as much as other people, he’s getting called pretentious? How idiotic
I really like cop. In fact I definitely prefer it to filth.
Sameeee
God Damn The Sun is top 10 swans tracks idc
Love SWANS
Kids these days. Listening to 15 albums shouldn't be a chore. Why don't you go out and teach your dog to catch a frisbee or something? The records will wait.
My favorite Swans albums are "Public Castration" and "Blood, Women, Roses". Gira's alcoholism ruined much of what came after. Since "The Seer", he has been attracting musicians good enough to carry him. Fight me over it.
I feel like your snobby, stereotypical boomer attitude ruins any possibility of having a proper debate over Swans' music
thank g-d. I've got a dinner with my boss and the head of region tonight, and I know that Swans album question is going to come up probably over dessert, when I'm not ready for it.
leaving meaning suffers from the fact that it's another transitional record. It might be followed up by another classic.
So excited for The Beggar
The problem I’ve always had with Cop is that, while the guitar is quite a bit heavier, it’s missing the pulverizing punch of the two drums/two bass rhythm section from Filth. I also feel like Godflesh did what Swans did on Cop much better with Streetcleaner in 1989
if you want to try awesome post-rock shit, then you should listen to Godspeed You Black Emperor's Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven
Cop is slower, and heavier for it. Sludgy af and crushing. Fair take but the slowness is what makes it unique and great imo.
0:18 how do you have logic in the same chart as life cycle, tpab, black midi, and a bunch of way better albums
"Sometime this year, I believe?" Lmao
Mr. Jackson burns what do you think of the new Brockhampton song
New single goes hard as fuck
@@JacksonBurnsYT fuck yeah bro Danny brown fits perfectly
great vid
Why would anyone want to NOT listen to Swans? (They are the greatest band of all time and its not even close)
For me it's the mf doom and logic at 0:22.
Luckily they had a slight return with The Beggar
damn, brutal on the Burning World lmao
I agree with the glowing man rating as well. Tho idk your being to harsh on the burning man ablum. Yeah its their worst ablum but swans at there worst is most good bands at there best. Still think it's a superb ablum
W GLOWING MAN
Gira is pronounced jee-rah. Soft G.
He has pronounced Ji-Raw in interviews
@@tpags7398 let's just get this kid on the soft G and then we'll worry about the rest
@@jeffw2004 I’m probably several years younger than the dude in the video, and I discovered swans recently through the no wave stuff because I love punk, but my favorites ended up being soundtracks and the glowing man. The pronunciation was the least of my worries until I got berated for it in a discussion with a fellow fan
@@tpags7398 I've personally been berated directly by Michael Gira. Berating really gets around quickly in Swanlandia.
cool video!
Ok, but what is your opinion on the self titled debut EP? You didn't cover that one.
I wonder where the begger sits
I didn’t know The OOZ was that good I just added it to my library when it came out and never listened to it lol
As a Major Swans fan that migrated over from Reddit, I have fighting words with ya. BURNING WORLD IS THE GREATEST NEO-FOLK ALBUM. /s
Tbh though, I would sooner pick up Burning World then most neo-folk albums.
Maybe I just don't like neo-folk then lol
@@JacksonBurnsYT nah. I probably just simp over Gira and Jarboe too much to realize Burning World's weaknesses.
It’s okay, I only really liked see no more and goddamn the sun it’s just they’ve released a lot better compared to it
Burning World ain’t even that bad bro chill😂
"Jarboe's vocals on Warm"? Huh? Where?
great video
yoooo black midi!
So how would you rank their albums? Considering you didn’t like most of their early discography, and even tho you did say you liked filth it sounds like you still got problems with it, genuinely curious since I’m trying to get into them, and I don’t know where to start
www.albumoftheyear.org/user/jacksonburns/list/37707/swans-ranked/
@@JacksonBurnsYT really appreciate it fam, I listened to children of god and from there I didn’t know where to go, but this list will definitely help
I kinda want you to listen to Godspeed! Black Emperor now. Lift your skinny fists will probably transcend you into heaven itself. Or at least be a amazing listening experience
Only heard their EP and F#A#. Awesome stuff. Lift Your Skinny Fists I'm waiting for the right moment. I heard the first crescendo and said "Fuck, this is a special album. Too special to listen to right now".
Dude u underrated af
No, not so you don't have to. You should listen to Swans cause they're great.
THE BEGGER THE BEGGER THE BEGGER THE BEGGER
the beggar is a good album
Time for The Beggar!
No, you HAVE TO listen to Swans discography
You pronounce "Gira" wrong.
Thankyou mr. burns. Ifeel ashamed that I didnt really know much or heard much of Swans. I now have an idea of how to start with them. Intelligent and unpretentious reviewing of their albums. I appreciate your delivery. Onya mate!