ATTENTION TRUCKERS::: I wanted to share a message with you - perhaps I should have started out with this. Although many of you don't like RV'er in the public travel stops, the problem is only going to get worse - much worse. The RV industry is growing incredibly fast with nearly 400,000 RV's being built each year. Most campgrounds are full - on the east coast you need to schedule a campground out nearly a year. Here are a few other thoughts going through RV'er's heads and why they use and stay at the fuel stations: - They have 100 gallon tanks too. Filling up on the "car side" takes way too long, not to mention it's often much too tight to reasonably get a 40 foot bus through there. - They don't feel comfortable pulling off on an exit in the middle of nowhere to sleep on the side of the road. They have their family with them and aren't comfortable sleeping roadside (though many others don't have that problem). - They just bought 100 gallons of gas too. They're paying for the concrete too and want to use it. - Although truckers have the limitations of driving hours and logs (which many people don't realize or fully understand), Rv'er's also have some limitations. It's not easy just pulling off somewhere and parking 40 feet of coach plus a tow vehicle. Walmart doesn't want them, Home Depot doesn't want them, rest areas are quick to boot them if they hang around too long, neighborhoods don't want them, and it's hard to know what parts of town are safe enough to park in. I literally had a cop escort me off a Walmart property in Charlotte, NC, advising me that if I want my wheels and tow vehicle in the morning I need to park somewhere else. - No, RV'er's can't just plan out everywhere they're going to stay ahead of time. Many campgrounds are full, or they have operating hours and if the Rv'er is delayed at all, they can't check in after a certain time (6pm, etc.). For me, finding a place to park had become incredibly difficult. It took a LOT of the fun out of it. I never slept well - always waiting for the lights or the knock on the door asking me to leave. So before you find yourself hating RV'er's, understand they have their own issues and limitations. Last: They won't appreciate that you want them to move on so you can make money. They worked their whole life to have this vacation, and your job doesn't trump their lifetime reward. Don't get mad at me - I'm just the messenger. This is what many think.
While I dont have a rv at all. I agree with everything you said here. The truckers being jerks. And saying park else where. Seem to froget that 40+ ft class a with a towed car or enclosed trailer. If your a race team is almost as long or just as long as they are. I'm sure the truck stop whould love to have a 50-70 foot + long rv/trailer combo parked in front takeing up 8-12 spots. When it comes to fueling they all hold 100+ gallons of diesel as well and back to the size. You could say squeezing a class a and trailer in to to auto pumps is probbly as easy as mr trucker squeezing in there. .... God bless and hope to own a beautiful rig like that some day
Many of your larger Pilot/Flying J truck stops have separate RV parking. An RV can also park in the car section if there is adequate space when a trucker can't. As a retired trucker I can tell you I have driven an extra hour and as many as five different places before finding a place to park. There is a serious shortage of truck parking and it started way before the RV explosion. You are just adding to an existing problem. At a truck stop there are many rookie drivers or drivers coming in late at night. There is a high risk of getting hit. In 20 years I've been hit 6 times by someone backing into me and every single one tried to run but they don't get far. At truck stops many times you deal with panhandlers. You deal with a noisy truck beside you. You deal with a urine soaked parking lot. Truck stops thin out during the day and from like 4pm to 8am they are packed full. As a RVer now I thoroughly plan my trips so I usually don't have an issue. Other alternatives include Wal-Mart, Rest Areas, on ramps in certain states and my favorite is freecampsites.net. I'll find suitable free camping enroute that can accommodate a Class A.
I think it goes without saying but apparently it doesn't so here it is, TRUCKERS DO NOT OWN THE ROAD OR THE RUCK STOPS. I have spent to many years fighting for your freedom and mine to have some trucker tell me that after spending the same $400 to fuel my rig, I can't overnight in the parking lot. GET BENT. (Good video by the way)
I drove for 15 years and understand the frustration of not having a place to park but I'm cool with rv parking there . Just know on the other side they should have a place for you to park near the cars . I would look there first just to be nice.
I want to thank you on behalf of all my fellow "professional" truck drivers for putting this out for all the other RV'ers to see. Pulling forward right after your done fueling and being thoughtful when you park will get you a long way! I'd like to add that using oil-resistant gloves is something you should also think about doing when handling the lines & nozzles. Doing a good walk around of your vehicle looking for possible problems (inspection) is something all commercial drivers are required to do and I would advise any one who drives one of these big RV's to do it every time your supposed to by law. At a minimum you should check all lights the engine and your tires/wheels, a Class A & B vehicle is required to do this by law. Be safe and have fun!
Not sure about other truckers but I sure like seeing you guys up close. I’m looking at what I want to get in the future. It’s funny to say but I’m a trucker and when I retire , I’d like to get a massive motorhome to travel the country and stay in 80 degrees all the time. Not 100 not 50. But 80 all the time. I wanna chase that weather and park and fish or hang out when ever.
Your not the only one the problem is the next generation to retire won't have a pension like our parents did we limited to our own savings and social security living full time in an RV looks lot better then sitting watching TV all day in a retirement community. I think the road is going to fill with RV'ers they all need places to park those things.
I just saw a FB post for traveling the US while it's 80 degrees during the year. It gives you a map of where to go and when to stay at the 80 degrees. It's pretty cool.
In the 10 years I have been fueling diesel motor homes at truck stops, no trucker has EVER waited for me to get out of his or her way. In the same time period, I have lost count of the number of times I have pulled up to a pump with a truck pulled forward, gone in to run my card, fill up diesel, pull forward to fill DEF, gone back inside to pay, returned to the motor home, made a sandwich, ate it, and STILL waited another 10 minutes for the driver to come back to his truck with a shopping bag, a to go container, and wet hair. Manners go both ways.
Truck driver must have been from Canada they are famous for going in taking a shower getting food just generally laying around leaving thier truck in the fuel lanes .Ex truck driver I've seen it
That's not a Canadian thing. I'm a truck driver and this is almost the standard at every truck stop now. As a driver it's one of the most annoying things we deal with. Motorhomes getting fuel don't bother me. The inconsiderate truck drivers do.
We watched this before picking up our 45' highway coach, and Love's was our first stop. We could not have navigated it successfully without this. Thank you.
The reason some truck stops do not except your normal debit/credit card is because the maximum allowed on those cars are usually around $150 and the truck stops try to open them up to around $300 for most semis. Those cards will work but you have to go inside and let them authorize it manually. If you are traveling a lot with your RV the best things is for you to sign up for a fleet card or pick your favorite truck stop and sign up for one of their gas/diesel cards.
Sir as a truck driver I thank you. Proper etiquette is a blessing! However I want to note that if you are going inside for anything other than a receipt go take a parking spot because I myself can fuel and dash in 5-10 minutes and don't want to wait for you to come back. But truth be told, other drivers are taking their 30 minute break on the pumps and they get a good ragchewing. As far as shutting down, along with most all the other comments, it's best not to shut down at a truck stop unless you absolutely have too. They get full enough as it is and when we are down to our last five minutes on that wonderful eld it really brings folks to a boiling point! But all in all great vid, and thank you!!
Update: I mentioned a timeframe of 10 to 15 minutes while holding at the line after pulling out. That was just my observation based on an awful lot of fill ups. However, it is a best practice to get out of the way as soon as possible. Generally it's best just to grab the receipt and go if required. So I agree with the comments here - this is meant to be a fill-and-go for truckers, so it's important to not impede them.
Well, I was thinking 10-15 minutes after you cleared the fuel island. That is the common courtesy in the industry. That way you can free the fuel island up and go get something to eat drink and move on. Anything longer it is best to go park and do what you got to do. For us, that usually means a bathroom break, sit-down meal and or shower. One last point always lock your door!
Great job. Anyone watching this will learn what they need to know in 17 minutes! It took me three or four nervous fill ups to learn, while my wife & I looked like the three stooges when there were really only two of us!
I’m a truck driver and hope to be an RV’er someday so I can go to all the areas I’ve been to but never had the chance to enjoy.... I’d say screw anyone who says you can’t park there! As long as your in between the lines I’d tell them to get bent, your very right when it comes to pop outs unless your parked on a corner and pop out over grass, remember most of us are not that rude, unless your inflicting are time, we work on a clock that’s always ticking and have strict timelines. I’ve made some RV friends on the road even seen some awesome race cars crews, only conflict I’ve ever had with someone in a RV was how fast he was traveling in a truck stop general rule of thumb is to keep it under 10mph once on the lot
Seth Clark we also work on a clock as daily drivers...remember that when you are trying to pull a hill VERY slowly while in the hammer lane blocking others.
Great video. When filling up I was in and out as fast as I could. Go in, give them my CC, fuel up, pull forward, go in, pay and get out of the way. Had an older truck so no DEF. Never had a truck driver have to wait much for me. Did have to wait several times for the truck driver in front of me who went in for a meal or something else. We always parked in the back forty. Only did so to use the bathroom in the trailer. To eat a sandwich around 12 noon and head out. Never hogged a spot overnight. Same in rest areas. In and out. Have a toilet in the 5th wheel trailer, walk around, check tires and hubs with my laser temp gauge. Eat a sandwich around 12 noon and head out. In twelve years of full-time RVing never had any problems with truck drivers in fuel stops or rest areas.
Nolan B . as a truck driver a lot of us hate it when other drivers do that in fuel station. some go in and eat, try to get a quick shower or taking their 30 minute break. some just don't consider others at all. The quality of truck drivers now days are bad and this is coming from someone who is a over the road trucker.
Not just for RVs. When I owned my F350, I held 110 gallons of fuel. When I would fill up, it was 100 gallons at a time. If there weren't truck stops around, that would turn into a 20 minute fill-up (at a typical 5 gallons/minute rate of car pumps). At the truck pumps, I could knock that out in about 5 minutes, then pull forward and go in and pay. Of course, as it came from the factory, my truck had a restrictor plate in the filler neck. Removed the neck, cut out the plate and reinstalled -- no problem taking fuel at 20 gallons/minute after that.
You are absolutely right - gas stations make more profit with selling booze, cigarettes and candies than with fuel. They are unhappy if people swipe their card, fill up and leave. That's why at some places like this truck stop you have to go through this ridiculous procedure of going back and forth between the pump and the store.
Glad to see you pull up enough for the driver behind you. Many times I see RVers pull up and there rear is still to close to the fuel pumps for the trucks to fuel
I'm looking forward to getting a RV. Not to long down the road when I get my house paid off in the next year. I'm watching this video just for fun dreaming about pulling my RV up to a truck stop to get diesel. I drive trucks for a living and pump fuel and def at the flying j everyday but I'm so looking forward to pumping it in a RV one day if it has diesel when my wife and kids and I are heading out on a road trip to see the grand canyon or something like that
I pull a large trailer with a diesel truck (super duty type). Please let your viewers know that truck-diesel nozzles meant for the "big rigs" are too wide to fit into the filler tube of a regular diesel truck. Your only option may be at the regular fueling station along with other cars. This can be a challenge for larger travel trailers and 5ers. There are sometimes a special fill station in the truck area that has the smaller consumer-type nozzle. It may be the closest pump to the store. It's always a challenge to say the least.
This is a GREAT point! I'll be sure to incorporate that in the future. I know the nozzles are much bigger, but hadn't considered how that would impact a standard diesel pickup truck! Thank you!
My 2023 duramax fits the truck stop pumps. Only thing you have too watch is that the consumer pumps I guess don’t pump as fast so it’ll overflow if you go full throttle on the pump lol
An interesting note based on the comments about Rv'ers using truck stops: One of the growing challenges of the RV industry is that lack of places to take an RV. They sell 400,000 RV's each year, but how many campgrounds are built during the same period? Companies like Walmart, Home Depot, and Cracker Barrel - while once very friendly to the RV community - have begun to crack down on overnight stays. My experience in the last 6 months is nothing like the ease it has been before then. Anyone else have an opinion? What are you seeing out there? The reason I bring this up is because if truck stops are busy today, just wait: when Walmart doesn't allow us to stop there, what else can we do? I'm interested in others thoughts!
I agree whole heartedly, while yes, there are many campgrounds throughout America, they often are full during peak season, which greatly impacts our ability to get the required rest in order to drive safely. We very much appreciate the privilege of a comfortable safe place to park. We also have noticed a growing trend of reluctance at overnight parking at businesses which once welcomed us. Perhaps because of the increasing numbers, which will not change this growing trend is here to stay. Good manners and proper etiquette must prevail!
Many people parking in Walmart and other once friendly to RVers have changed their attitude due to the disrespect given to their properties. I’ve seen it and heard it many times. In only takes a few leaving trash, staying for more than a night or two or doing damages to change the perspective. I’ve seen where someone dumped their holding tank and left. Some have filled the trash cans till they overflowed and left garbage on the ground. It only takes a few to make it bad for the rest.
I have to agree with the other comments about the inconsiderate, I'm the only person in the world, pigs, that have no respect for anything including themselves. These are the people who run their generators all night. Turn their stereos up as loud they can go. Throw their trash where ever they want and ruin a good thing for the rest of us who do the right thing. It is infuriating to me that such a small minority of rvers can have such huge impact on what was once such a wonderful experience and lifestyle. Ive seen these same individuals turn a beautiful campground into something like a scene out of a Road Warrior movie, especially on holiday weekends. SOOOO sick of it😡. Thank you for letting me vent.
Good video. I learned all that my first long camping trip. I fuel in the back with the rigs, prepay and then back into a spot. I do this for mine and everyone’s safety. I’m out of the way, and I’m avoiding the auto pumps which are tight for campers. I only stay parked long enough to grab food and restrooms.
Thanks! If you liked this, I HIGHLY recommend getting the Class A MasterTrack series. This video is HARDLY a snippet of the information I cover in that series - including driving training, backing, campground backing, etc. Thanks for watching!
The eye of the storm DEF is diesel exhaust fluid. A chemical containing urea, it is injected into the exhaust. Where it is converted into ammonia they use this chemical reaction to reduce emissions.
As a trucker looking to buy his first class C or class A RV, I appreciate you pointing out the proper etiquette when at the fuel lanes. I always appreciate RV’ers like. Good video.
As a trucker there is very limited parking for trucks around the country. Yes you can pull in with your rv/camper but keep in mind that trucks need to park. Often there is “rv” parking around by the car parking we appreciate it if you can get into those. Otherwise just be courteous, if you’re traveling with a buddy and you both have half ton trucks with travel trailers (like one one they pull their diesel pusher next to) share the spot. You can usually pull up to the end and your buddy can pull in behind you so you’re only taking up 1 spot with your 2 rigs as long as they fit. Sometimes you can even find where there is space eking the edges where you can parallel park along the curb, just not where trucks have to go around a corner. In that case feel free to park facing a direction that your driver side is against the curb and you can open your slide out over the grass where it won’t be in anyone’s way.
First problem, my filler was too small for the giant Truck stop hose. I guess the maker knew it couldn't vent fast enough. Second problem, my filler was on the curb side, so the truck pumps had the master pump on the wrong side. You have to take the nozzle, lay it on the ground, then use the slave on the curb side and so you can't read the pump meter. I was forced to use the "Auto Diesel" pumps at the regular gas pumps. You learn to not pull into pumps perpendicular to the store or else you get blocked by cars at the store. Backing up with a trailer is not easy at a fueling stop, especially solo. I sought out Flying J's which always have a RV island.
Allen S don’t feel too sad , for years GM pickups had their DEF filler under the hood, on the curb side, but the nozzle couldn’t fit between the hood and filler hole anyway. GM stands for Great Mayhem, don’t you think? They fixed it on 2019 models at least.
I think every RV'ers should watch a video like this before pulling away from a dealership. Im a brand new RVer and had to use truck stops for fuel for the first time due to the size. I did not know about the pull thru lane and I wish I did since I had to go pay inside and pick up the receipt, but luckily no one was behind me when I returned. I would also recommend using gloves when using gloves pumping diesel and DEF
My friend just retired as a truck driver. Do RVs get same pricing as truck driver. My friend said that his company got discount on fuel, also he go credit for gallons pumped which got him shower’s or money to spend in the store or restaurant. I realize this video is 4 yrs old. My friend also told me that some places now charge for overnight parking and even take reservations. Not sure how that works.
Good video but could add some info. I have the open roads card and also the Lives app. I never go inside or use the card reader. Everything o do is thru the app even up to getting the receipt. Have tried other truck stops like Speedway and T/A but the apps just don’t work.
Truck stop pumps are some of the dirtest pumps around. I never full up my truck with my bare hands. I recommend using rubber gloves. I just helps to keep you and your vehicle clean
What are your feelings about school buses converted into RV’s that park in Love’s big rig parking areas and fuel up on the truck side of the station? I don’t have my bus yet (40’ er) but will be towing my car and want to avoid difficulties or misunderstandings when possible. Just as a side note: I’ve read that many/most Walmart’s won’t allow buses or RV’s to park on their lots any more. Is this also true for truckers? Also, many RV parks won’t allow converted buses (Skoolies) to park there either. Why is this?
Dude i'm thinking of doing this and i'm a serious student to the game. I am a clothing designer and will be operating online, i have Nelly (my cuz) & Snoop Dogg as models. So, i'll use a "Fifth Wheel" promote my clothing all over the states. I even have bullet proof curtains ready for the rig. lol I have things like a make shift hospital. lol I have a ham radio can talk over seas, where there is no signal. I have a repair center for the Fifth Wheel on board, even air tools and compressor. lol Night vision, heat sensors, top of the line E-rated spare tires, first aide kits, fire extinguishers, extreme weapons, welding eq & craftsman tools of all types. Thank you for the tips.
We had a Gasser and getting Diesel is so much more nice. Now it is dirtier but I like being in the truck lanes and not dealing with all the cars and people mocing and running around. The truckers know their stuff. It is tricky filling up the Diesel because it foams like crazy.
I have the utmost respect for the sacrifices truckers make for this job and their families' sacrifices. I grew up with a few guys whose dads were truckers. It's not an easy life. I understand how much regulation there is for truckers and that they are pushing to make their miles and hours. Some people are just going to not like anyone else in their space. Comes with all walks of life. I think if we all just take a moment to talk to one another instead of constantly throwing a fit and either talking down to someone or being defensive at the drop of a hat, we could make things work. Even the biggest RVs have no more than 150 gallons of fuel, unless I've missed a few outliers. An RV shouldn't take long to fill and get out of the way. Just respect what the truckers are doing.
I was wondering when someone would say something! Lol. Yes, I have one, but not for the reasons you might think. I travel a LOT of back country roads, and the speed limits can be all over the place. They're not always posted either, in the small towns across America. This helps me keep my speed in check when it gets down to 25 mph or 35 mph because it can track what the speed limit is for where I'm at. So whether there's a sign or not, or if I missed it, the unit tells me the speed limit for where I am. So that's helpful!
What about a rear slide for the bed on a Tiffin Wayfarer 25QW? You can't use the bed with it retracted. Same question for etiquette at truck stop or Wally Mart. Thx from a Newbie
If you can't use the bed with the slide retracted, then you have very few options for "stealth camping" (camping in parking lots while trying not to bother anyone). That's something to consider when purchasing an RV!
As a trucker which ever side you slide is on park that side to the edge. If you slide is on the left park to the far left so you slide is over the grass.
I'll never understand why people feel the need to actually hit the Thumbs Down icon. This video is quite helpful for the Novice Diesel Pusher owner! Well Done! I wish it was on-line when I got my DP years ago. Nice video.
I am 67 years old retired . My kids run my Biz . I caravan with a group . We set out at night watch TV play music have cocktails we even play music My i play Guitar Les Paul and a Strat. Plus i have Yamaha Piano. Sometumes we do get loud . But theres 12 to 15 coachs we bring a lot of revenue to the Park like in Palm Springs we stay 3 months Napa Ca 6 weeks Yakama washington 8 weeks Wisconsin 6 weeks Maine 2 months
that DEF is a bad set up, what if you got it in the box? Im not tryin to nit pick but you know your supposed to idle for about 3 min before you shut it down.
Btw some of us know your new to truck stops and we also know you are out of your comfort zone. We know this and we don’t get pissed when u look lost. Everyone is allowed to be new. Signed : Not a rv hater trucker !
I fuel all the time in a truck one would thing they could figure out how to make payments at the pump My RV is a gas powered unit so I only have to ask em once
Both have a $200k vehicle. The tv is 45' plus 25' tow vehicle including hitch. The travel center is designed to accommodate both . some facilities are safer and cleaner than others. Yes time GPS is a stress factor for truckers. It helps to use technology to schedule rest stops food showers and laundry. Not all units are Mobil taught a w all a amenities just like big rigs.
Any way of getting around LOVES high price they charge extra for non truckers to fill up? Most Trucker get a discount for fuel with a fuel card. Pure extra profit for the truck stop when a motor home pulls in.
@@bluered1322 DEF and DPF two different systems... often found together. The DPF is a filter... after it starts to clog the engine goes through a 'regen' where it injects extra fuel to heat the filter up and burn off the carbon. The DEF fluid is injected into the exhaust ahead of the catalyzer (SCF, Selective Catalytic Reduction), the chemical reaction gets rid of the NOx smog-inducing pollutants.
Do you still have your Pallazo and what year is it? Have you had any major problems? I'm thinking of buying a 2014 (33.2) or maybe a newer year. Can you comment? I have subscribed to your channel. Thanks for your video.
Hello! I don't have that Palazzo anymore... I had the same kinds of problems I'd have with any RV! I chose the Palazzo mostly on the floor plan. I liked the mid-entry door and how they laid out the air conditioners. If you're thinking of buying, MAKE SURE you buy my Buyer's Track videos! It's over 7 hours of content - everything you need to know, think about, and consider before making a purchase. Good luck and thanks for watching!
what the guy meant to say at 7:11 was : that diesel pump nozzles are wider then gas nozzle 's. another tip this guy did not mention . Due to the fcat as he mentioned pumps at a higher rate ( Gallon per minute or GMP) that you should hold on to the nozzle when it is pumping since it can due to the higher GPM vs gas pumps can and hev e been known to pop out due to the higher GPM
One correction to your comment on pulling up when finished fueling. Just run in to get your receipt and pull out. If you need to do anything more (restroom, eat, browse the store, etc.) pull out and park in the parking lot. Do not block the fuel lane exit.
I would like to know if a auxiliary fuel tank can be installed on a Class A Diesel Pusher Mobile home??? I know that most Class A's have a 150 Gallon Tank..... So can you install another 100 to 150 Gallon Tank on the other side of the chassis???
Of course... I could put a 100gallon tank on my F250 too. As long as you have a place for it, of course. Talk to your manufacturer or dealer, or local RV service place. Diesel is much safer than gasoline.
This RV appears to have a poor setup for filling the DEF. If you have to fill it with a jug, is there enough clearance above to tip it up? Note the cover over the DEF nozzle and hose -- because the space is heated in the winter, the fluid may freeze at temps below -10°C.
Just a tip but get yourself a pair of gloves dedicated to fueling, diesel migrates from the pump to your hands, clothes and coach ,and leave the gloves in a side compartment that you don't mind smelling like diesel and getting dirty . Even your shoes will get diesel on the soles it truly is a messy ordeal
Years ago, I worked in filling stations for a decade, including a few years at a full service truck stop. Since I am outside at the pumps all day, I wouldn't even think of touching them without leather - palmed work gloves.
Mike Roadstar yes. It’s pretty loud at those truckstops because all the trucks are running their refrigeration units and generators. So running a generator all night only adds to the noise that’s already there. I’ve never had an issue with it.
How often do you need to get DEF? I'm thinking of getting a C or B+ and many come on the Mercedes diesel chassis. Although I can get the diesel anywhere, everyone says the best place to get DEF is at truck stops. So how often will I need to get DEF?
LisaMarli in my case, I had about 100 gallon fuel tank for diesel and maybe a 10-gallon DEF tank. I had to fill def every fourth time. It's not that often, and it's not that expensive. That was just my experience.
Just curious, why did the RV manufacturer engineer the vehicle where the def tank fill is so far away from the diesel fill? One would think they can put both tanks side by side. After all, the def tank is only at the most 15 gal. Good video. Trucker since 1979.
Fuel is in front because of the weight..engine is in rear on his rig so because DEF freezes in winter time you want that tank close to the engine closer to engine means less distance to pump DEF..lessens chance of line freezes..once DEF freezes or the lines freeze the engine (diesel) goes into limp mode..way down on power..thanks be to our Masters GOVment Masters..
Not being a trucker, just a curious viewer. Can somebody please explain to me what in blue blazes G P S is, the fuel that is not the Satellite system ?.
The DEF nozzle has a magnetic trigger in it to make it pump. What I do at work to trucks when they don’t pump is use a magnet that slips over the nozzle so you can fill up a tank or a jug without a magnet in the actual tank being needed.
Both Diesel and DEF pumps have auto shutoffs. If this RV is like our trucks, diesel won't be full, you have to slowly top it off, diesel likes to foam, bubble and slosh. DEF is almost completely full when it shuts off however. Maybe an extra click or two, but not that important. As for capacities for DEF, depending on spec of truck (i assume RV's have unusually large def tanks) it will last until a second fuelling. However if you're the absent minded type, or get out into the wilderness, it would be best to fill DEF with every fuelling when available (such as truck stop, since you're there anyways) in case you need diesel at a small station that doesn't have any DEF at pump (far, far cheaper than in the bottles) As well, as a regional driver, I don't complain if you're parking your RV in a truck lane if it's a full sized RV. Your Econoline van will piss a whole bunch of road drivers off if it's in a 90 foot space. If you use a pull through parking lane, move all the way up, so a bobtail or straight truck can get all comfy up behind you in the same space. also word of advice, leave clearance lights on when stopped, mandatory at night. In parking lots or spaces, it makes the vehicle much easier to see, especially when hidden in parking slots.
For those who said "it's called a truck stop for a reason" re-read the signs. Both Flying Js and Loves are no longer called "truck-stops" but "Travel Centers." They cater to RVers as well as truckers. I have relatives and close friends who are/were OTR drivers. My uncle would say "get out and offer to help a Diesel RVer instead of complaining". FYI many states do not allow overnighting in rest areas.
They only call them travel center now to bring in more people to make money other than that it is a truck stop. so have so respect for the truck drivers
I know you do not need DEF fluid at every fill up, but it would make sense for manufacturers to put these tanks closer to each other so you dont have to move the rig
A couple hints as a retired trucker. You can frequent one of the major chains and obtain their fuel card for a discount. All the major truck stops offer fuel reward cards, get one. Not only do you get a free shower with every 50 gallons you build points which you can buy food and store merchandise. When fueling it's a good idea to wear gloves. If you fuel with diesel your hands tend to get dirty. When walking in a truck stop parking lot always square off your route. Never walk shortcut angles. Many drivers have been run over in the past. Take it seriously. Walking the edges makes you safer. When walking in front of trucks at the fuel island always make eye contact with the driver in the truck. Never assume he sees you. Loves are great truck stops but they are not the biggest. I prefer Pilot/Flying J. TA and Petro are other big chains. If you are parking overnight some spots are safer than others. Drivers always back from the drivers side. The passenger side of their trailer is their blind side so keep that in mind. Ideally the back row end spot to the right is the safest spot. Parking beside an island or curb is safer. Don't hide in the back of the spot. Favor the front so drivers can see you but not too much you make their backing difficult. Last if you look usually in the bathroom hallway area you'll see the truck stop's fuel directory hanging on the wall. Grab you a free one to help find future truck stops or you can use apps if you prefer. Happy travels.
Ok, it's time for me to weigh in! Yes, you CAN back up with a tow bar - I'm just not going to teach it as a company. It depends on your skill, technique, vehicle, and kind of tow bar. Generally speaking, if you don't do it right, you can do a tremendous amount of damage, including: bending the tow bar, transmission issues depending on your setup, and most common is the front wheels of the tow vehicle jerking hard to the side and dragging horribly as your monster pushes that little thing down the road. If you're going to do it, learn the technique! But I"m not gonna tell you how.... :) Also, regarding truckers vs Rv'ers: It's true that these truck stops really belong to the truckers. This is their home away from home and they've driven a long way to get to this one stop. Remember, they're limited by hours and logs, so they can't always just drive down the road another hour for the next truckstop. I believe strongly in being respectful to them and staying out of their way. They've developed a dislike for RV'ers for 2 main reasons: RV'ers don't know how to drive, and RV'ers don't know or follow rules of etiquette. Don't be that person! Get trained!
RV Masters over the years I have driven well over a million miles in 3 different diesel pushers I've had dollies on each one of those. Just say that you can pack a dolly up with a car on it when the manual and warning signs on a dolly stating do not back out is opening yourself to libel lawsuits and why you would say that some of the people that don't know how to drive their RVs to learn a technique backing with a dolly it's just plain foolish so obviously you don't know what you're talking about
RV Masters, Saying rv ers are bad drivers is just nonsense. There are BAD drivers everywhere!!!!! Saying that on this platform , you clearly haven't watched the youtube videoes of truck drivers that are supposedly trained professionals!!! Everyone needs to get off their high horses!! As long as there are HUMANS driving whatever, wherever, however!! There WILL ALWAYS BE GOOD PEOPLE AND ASSHATS!! Everyones bitching and self righteousness does NOT do anything that helps!!
I am a old truck driver that now drives a desk. I’ve had a bumper pull for 30 years and am looking at a pre 2007 pusher. Without emissions junk. To be honest, an rv in a truck stop or rest area irritated me. Especially if I had to go down the road. I never retaliate if they were parked only taking up one spot. When tip outs became a thing, it would take up part of a second spot. I would get within an inch or two, then turn my reefer on continuous. I could also cock the tractor over to make it very difficult to leave, especially if I was parked on their left side. I agree that it was rude and immature. But, so was taking up two spots. I have pulled my camp trailer many miles and have never slept in a truck stop or rest area. A helpful hint is, campers and motor homes can park in the car area. If you are going to stop for a short time, park there and that way you aren’t taking up a spot. Drivers have to take a 30 minute break after 8 hours of driving and 10 off after 11 hours of driving or 14 hours of on duty. These are federally mandated and if a driver goes beyond that, they not only can be fined, they can accrue points on their CDL, as well be shut down for 10 hours at a weight station. Which may not have rest rooms. I’m sure that I will receive thumbs down and I’m okay with criticism. Your opinion means as much as mine does. Enjoy your day.
upfreaks not really i leave my truck on all day everyday (except for fueling) most people will leave your truck alone but if your in a place like detroit,atlanta,Memphis etc... then yeah look that bitch tight then an overprotective father over his daughter's virginity
I'm a truck driver and I think the best solution is for the truck stops to start making more RV parking spaces specifically for rvers that way everyone wins. The problem with RV or getting into truckers parking places you guys don't get tickets for being illegal on your logs but I do understand when you drive a piece of equipment that is as big as they are you guys need parking to hopefully truck stops will come up with a plan
Great advise. 5 to 10 minutes would be more accurate. However if parking is available, just go park. Remember the drivers are working and have limited time. However a lot of truck drivers have less courtesy than you
Scott Myers who fucking cares, the rest of us work too! Do truck drivers give a fuck about us when they lane hog on a freeway...you know what I mean, plugging the passing lane while going up hill because the rig in the driving lane can only pull the fucking hill 1 mph slower than they are. So fuck them!!
I agree with the pro drivers and RVers. Truck stop are nasty places to fuel. Always have a pair of NON leather gloves. Diesel will wick into leather and make your hands stink. Also, DEF is caustic. You don’t want a chemical burn. Agreed, get your receipt and move to park area or head down road. Waiting for the person in front of you is a PITA. And if it’s a travel center, what person doesn’t like to look around? People shop. Meanwhile a driver trying to hot foot out of there is losing their cool by being blocked in. Thanks for the vid, safe travels to all!
I'm sure some truckers assume we have no respect for truck stop etiquette. When we fill up with DEF we have no choice but to go in from the wrong direction as the DEF fill is on the passenger side of the rig. I'm sure the manufacturer got plenty of feedback as Entegra put duel DEF fill in the next model model year. We try to get in and out as fast as possible.
We have a 2000 model diesel pusher with a smaller fuel neck. This proves to be difficult with a small neck if you are going to find one. The small neck diesel dispenser will be the pump closer to the building. At least that has been our experience.
Just go into any "gas station" that also has diesel pumps for pickups and all the other diesel powered smaller vehicles, and the nozzles are the very same as the gasoline dispenser nozzles, only with a Green rubberized handle cover, instead of Black for the gasoline nozzles.
Have to open my one wall slide (30feet long), there is less then 12" inside to move to the bed.. So something has to open or I cant make it to the bed. My wife is 5' 0" tall and she cant even get to the bathroom or bed without one of the 2 sides being open.
A few things you need to add, especially for the newbie; first off, fuel stations are filthy; wear gloves when you use the fuel nozzle and always have an extra pair of shoes you can slip on at the door to walk out on the concrete with. Grease, diesel and whatnot everywhere! Second; Most diesel pushers have twin tanks and I fill from both sides at the same time. Truck drivers don't want to wait on your inability to dispense the fuel like you should. I had a 100 gal fuel tank on each side and could be in an out as fast as the truckers could. The fuel card is the answer for the trips in and out. If you have a Good Sam card, they are supposed to work at Pilot's, but that hasn't happened yet for me. You will also find that no matter how well you manage your time at the truck stop, there are truckers who don't like that fact that you are tooling down the road at your leisure and they are working and you are holding them up. Unless I am just so tired I can't go any further, I never stay at a truck stop. It's for those drivers that have to stop and sleep. Lastly, lock you door when you leave your rig!
Those are all really great points! I also didn't show that you're also supposed to have some diesel fuel cleanup spread for diesel spills (it kinda looks like cat litter). It's also true that you can pump diesel on both sides in most diesel pushers. However, at least with my rig, I can't leave the pump unattended because of the way the angle is - it sprays out way before it auto stops. So when I dual fuel I have to calculate how much I need and stop one of the sides before I get to 80%, then get to the other side. That's just my experience.
Exactly, imagine if it were the other way and truckers pulled into RV camping spots. RVers would be irate. Drove commercially for over 25 years, I still have my CDL. I now pull a 38’ trailer. Being respectful goes a long ways and it goes both ways. As an RVer most don’t have a schedule anything like a trucker. You aren’t being watched and timed by a device required by law. You can park in many places including Walmart’s parking lots. Many Walmart lots are off limits to truckers. Most RVers are either vacationing, retired or working a schedule more forgiving than a truckers schedule.
My Good Sam card works at Flying J and Pilot. It also helps to have a Fly J/Pilot RV rewards card. It lets you pay at the pump. The RV Rewards Card is free. The reward card authorizes the pump .Fly J / Pilot RV Rewards card when used with a Good Sam Fuel card, gets you a 6 cent per gal. discount.
I have to agree with Joe's statement about the fuel stations being filthy! I had an encounter at a small gas station that had the diesel pumps behind the building for semi's and RV's to get get fuel, well there was standing water (which happened to be mixed with diesel) and I went to step over the puddle, slipped, fell on my ass, covered the back of my clothes in the mixture of gravel, water, diesel and cut my hand! I was not happy, especially when i had to go in and pay for the fuel covered in crap! The foreigners running the station never said a WORD as i went to their disgusting bathroom to attempt to clean up (which was about as dirty as the outside!) nor when i payed and told them what happened! Not a "I'm Sorry" or anything! After that i learned to only buy fuel at well known and clean stations! I use a Fuel Card that i signed up for thru the Gas Buddy app. Gives me a discount when making fuel purchases and it ties to my bank account. One thing that threw me off when using the card at a large truck stop was that the pump asked if the fuel was for the "tractor" say YES! Trucks as we call them are also known as Tractors in the Trucking World. Also, if you don't have an RV with a generator (I pull a 41' Coachmen Chaparral 5th wheel & no generator behind my F-350 Diesel) then it is much more comfortable to find a KOA along your route. They always have a spot or two for travelers that come in after hours (or dark), just fill out the registration slip and put some cash in the envelope into the night deposit.
ATTENTION TRUCKERS::: I wanted to share a message with you - perhaps I should have started out with this. Although many of you don't like RV'er in the public travel stops, the problem is only going to get worse - much worse. The RV industry is growing incredibly fast with nearly 400,000 RV's being built each year. Most campgrounds are full - on the east coast you need to schedule a campground out nearly a year.
Here are a few other thoughts going through RV'er's heads and why they use and stay at the fuel stations:
- They have 100 gallon tanks too. Filling up on the "car side" takes way too long, not to mention it's often much too tight to reasonably get a 40 foot bus through there.
- They don't feel comfortable pulling off on an exit in the middle of nowhere to sleep on the side of the road. They have their family with them and aren't comfortable sleeping roadside (though many others don't have that problem).
- They just bought 100 gallons of gas too. They're paying for the concrete too and want to use it.
- Although truckers have the limitations of driving hours and logs (which many people don't realize or fully understand), Rv'er's also have some limitations. It's not easy just pulling off somewhere and parking 40 feet of coach plus a tow vehicle. Walmart doesn't want them, Home Depot doesn't want them, rest areas are quick to boot them if they hang around too long, neighborhoods don't want them, and it's hard to know what parts of town are safe enough to park in. I literally had a cop escort me off a Walmart property in Charlotte, NC, advising me that if I want my wheels and tow vehicle in the morning I need to park somewhere else.
- No, RV'er's can't just plan out everywhere they're going to stay ahead of time. Many campgrounds are full, or they have operating hours and if the Rv'er is delayed at all, they can't check in after a certain time (6pm, etc.).
For me, finding a place to park had become incredibly difficult. It took a LOT of the fun out of it. I never slept well - always waiting for the lights or the knock on the door asking me to leave. So before you find yourself hating RV'er's, understand they have their own issues and limitations. Last: They won't appreciate that you want them to move on so you can make money. They worked their whole life to have this vacation, and your job doesn't trump their lifetime reward. Don't get mad at me - I'm just the messenger. This is what many think.
While I dont have a rv at all. I agree with everything you said here. The truckers being jerks. And saying park else where. Seem to froget that 40+ ft class a with a towed car or enclosed trailer. If your a race team is almost as long or just as long as they are. I'm sure the truck stop whould love to have a 50-70 foot + long rv/trailer combo parked in front takeing up 8-12 spots.
When it comes to fueling they all hold 100+ gallons of diesel as well and back to the size. You could say squeezing a class a and trailer in to to auto pumps is probbly as easy as mr trucker squeezing in there. .... God bless and hope to own a beautiful rig like that some day
Many of your larger Pilot/Flying J truck stops have separate RV parking. An RV can also park in the car section if there is adequate space when a trucker can't. As a retired trucker I can tell you I have driven an extra hour and as many as five different places before finding a place to park. There is a serious shortage of truck parking and it started way before the RV explosion. You are just adding to an existing problem.
At a truck stop there are many rookie drivers or drivers coming in late at night. There is a high risk of getting hit. In 20 years I've been hit 6 times by someone backing into me and every single one tried to run but they don't get far.
At truck stops many times you deal with panhandlers. You deal with a noisy truck beside you. You deal with a urine soaked parking lot. Truck stops thin out during the day and from like 4pm to 8am they are packed full. As a RVer now I thoroughly plan my trips so I usually don't have an issue. Other alternatives include Wal-Mart, Rest Areas, on ramps in certain states and my favorite is freecampsites.net. I'll find suitable free camping enroute that can accommodate a Class A.
I think it goes without saying but apparently it doesn't so here it is, TRUCKERS DO NOT OWN THE ROAD OR THE RUCK STOPS. I have spent to many years fighting for your freedom and mine to have some trucker tell me that after spending the same $400 to fuel my rig, I can't overnight in the parking lot. GET BENT. (Good video by the way)
@@philliprittermeyer3303 what you do, work for the ACLU?
I drove for 15 years and understand the frustration of not having a place to park but I'm cool with rv parking there . Just know on the other side they should have a place for you to park near the cars . I would look there first just to be nice.
I want to thank you on behalf of all my fellow "professional" truck drivers for putting this out for all the other RV'ers to see. Pulling forward right after your done fueling and being thoughtful when you park will get you a long way!
I'd like to add that using oil-resistant gloves is something you should also think about doing when handling the lines & nozzles. Doing a good walk around of your vehicle looking for possible problems (inspection) is something all commercial drivers are required to do and I would advise any one who drives one of these big RV's to do it every time your supposed to by law. At a minimum you should check all lights the engine and your tires/wheels, a Class A & B vehicle is required to do this by law. Be safe and have fun!
I would recommend a fueling glove as diesel pumps get nasty.
Not sure about other truckers but I sure like seeing you guys up close.
I’m looking at what I want to get in the future. It’s funny to say but I’m a trucker and when I retire , I’d like to get a massive motorhome to travel the country and stay in 80 degrees all the time.
Not 100 not 50. But 80 all the time.
I wanna chase that weather and park and fish or hang out when ever.
Try Beridorm, Spain. That's my future retirement plan.
What my mom and dad did when dad retired from Red Ball trucking.
Good luck with finding 80 all the time in the USA. That was my dream too.
Your not the only one the problem is the next generation to retire won't have a pension like our parents did we limited to our own savings and social security living full time in an RV looks lot better then sitting watching TV all day in a retirement community. I think the road is going to fill with RV'ers they all need places to park those things.
I just saw a FB post for traveling the US while it's 80 degrees during the year. It gives you a map of where to go and when to stay at the 80 degrees. It's pretty cool.
In the 10 years I have been fueling diesel motor homes at truck stops, no trucker has EVER waited for me to get out of his or her way. In the same time period, I have lost count of the number of times I have pulled up to a pump with a truck pulled forward, gone in to run my card, fill up diesel, pull forward to fill DEF, gone back inside to pay, returned to the motor home, made a sandwich, ate it, and STILL waited another 10 minutes for the driver to come back to his truck with a shopping bag, a to go container, and wet hair.
Manners go both ways.
Truck driver must have been from Canada they are famous for going in taking a shower getting food just generally laying around leaving thier truck in the fuel lanes .Ex truck driver I've seen it
That's not a Canadian thing. I'm a truck driver and this is almost the standard at every truck stop now. As a driver it's one of the most annoying things we deal with. Motorhomes getting fuel don't bother me. The inconsiderate truck drivers do.
We watched this before picking up our 45' highway coach, and Love's was our first stop. We could not have navigated it successfully without this. Thank you.
It doesn’t hurt to say “Thank you”to the fuel station attendant.
He also said they were getting "gas"...This guy's a tool
Hey can I get a receipt? No thank you or nothing. This guy is a clown. He get's $20 of diesel. Rv Masters? Lol
The reason some truck stops do not except your normal debit/credit card is because the maximum allowed on those cars are usually around $150 and the truck stops try to open them up to around $300 for most semis. Those cards will work but you have to go inside and let them authorize it manually. If you are traveling a lot with your RV the best things is for you to sign up for a fleet card or pick your favorite truck stop and sign up for one of their gas/diesel cards.
Sir as a truck driver I thank you. Proper etiquette is a blessing! However I want to note that if you are going inside for anything other than a receipt go take a parking spot because I myself can fuel and dash in 5-10 minutes and don't want to wait for you to come back. But truth be told, other drivers are taking their 30 minute break on the pumps and they get a good ragchewing. As far as shutting down, along with most all the other comments, it's best not to shut down at a truck stop unless you absolutely have too. They get full enough as it is and when we are down to our last five minutes on that wonderful eld it really brings folks to a boiling point! But all in all great vid, and thank you!!
Do Truck Stops not have pay at the pumps or are they still the old ding ding every gallon? Technically there is no reason to go inside. Piss in a cup!
Update: I mentioned a timeframe of 10 to 15 minutes while holding at the line after pulling out. That was just my observation based on an awful lot of fill ups. However, it is a best practice to get out of the way as soon as possible. Generally it's best just to grab the receipt and go if required. So I agree with the comments here - this is meant to be a fill-and-go for truckers, so it's important to not impede them.
Well, I was thinking 10-15 minutes after you cleared the fuel island. That is the common courtesy in the industry. That way you can free the fuel island up and go get something to eat drink and move on. Anything longer it is best to go park and do what you got to do. For us, that usually means a bathroom break, sit-down meal and or shower. One last point always lock your door!
You don't need to go,as you can see there are plenty of parking,why not pull around and park,freeing up the lane...no brainer....
Gotta go get yourself a hot dog... and a cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeese burger.. and taaaaaaaaaaater chips.. and sodie pop.. and a caaaaaaandy bar
Great job. Anyone watching this will learn what they need to know in 17 minutes! It took me three or four nervous fill ups to learn, while my wife & I looked like the three stooges when there were really only two of us!
I am a Newby and this is the EXACT Video I was looking for !!!! Thank you so much for posting !
I’m a truck driver and hope to be an RV’er someday so I can go to all the areas I’ve been to but never had the chance to enjoy.... I’d say screw anyone who says you can’t park there! As long as your in between the lines I’d tell them to get bent, your very right when it comes to pop outs unless your parked on a corner and pop out over grass, remember most of us are not that rude, unless your inflicting are time, we work on a clock that’s always ticking and have strict timelines. I’ve made some RV friends on the road even seen some awesome race cars crews, only conflict I’ve ever had with someone in a RV was how fast he was traveling in a truck stop general rule of thumb is to keep it under 10mph once on the lot
Agreed! In every way.
Seth Clark we also work on a clock as daily drivers...remember that when you are trying to pull a hill VERY slowly while in the hammer lane blocking others.
Having a dedicated pair of gloves to use only for refueling stored in a outside compartment near fuel door.
I typed in the same comment and glanced down a bit and saw your comment. I deleted my comment.
Sissy man
Yep and dedicated shoes. The ground is usually Nasty
Great video. When filling up I was in and out as fast as I could. Go in, give them my CC, fuel up, pull forward, go in, pay and get out of the way. Had an older truck so no DEF. Never had a truck driver have to wait much for me. Did have to wait several times for the truck driver in front of me who went in for a meal or something else. We always parked in the back forty. Only did so to use the bathroom in the trailer. To eat a sandwich around 12 noon and head out. Never hogged a spot overnight. Same in rest areas. In and out. Have a toilet in the 5th wheel trailer, walk around, check tires and hubs with my laser temp gauge. Eat a sandwich around 12 noon and head out. In twelve years of full-time RVing never had any problems with truck drivers in fuel stops or rest areas.
Nolan B . as a truck driver a lot of us hate it when other drivers do that in fuel station. some go in and eat, try to get a quick shower or taking their 30 minute break. some just don't consider others at all. The quality of truck drivers now days are bad and this is coming from someone who is a over the road trucker.
Not just for RVs. When I owned my F350, I held 110 gallons of fuel. When I would fill up, it was 100 gallons at a time. If there weren't truck stops around, that would turn into a 20 minute fill-up (at a typical 5 gallons/minute rate of car pumps). At the truck pumps, I could knock that out in about 5 minutes, then pull forward and go in and pay. Of course, as it came from the factory, my truck had a restrictor plate in the filler neck. Removed the neck, cut out the plate and reinstalled -- no problem taking fuel at 20 gallons/minute after that.
You are absolutely right - gas stations make more profit with selling booze, cigarettes and candies than with fuel. They are unhappy if people swipe their card, fill up and leave. That's why at some places like this truck stop you have to go through this ridiculous procedure of going back and forth between the pump and the store.
Just ordered a diesel Rv, I am looking forward to watching all your videos.
Thank you very much for this, I'm taking my 38' across the country for the first time and was pretty apprehensive, great info, keep up the good work.
Glad to see you pull up enough for the driver behind you. Many times I see RVers pull up and there rear is still to close to the fuel pumps for the trucks to fuel
I'm looking forward to getting a RV. Not to long down the road when I get my house paid off in the next year. I'm watching this video just for fun dreaming about pulling my RV up to a truck stop to get diesel. I drive trucks for a living and pump fuel and def at the flying j everyday but I'm so looking forward to pumping it in a RV one day if it has diesel when my wife and kids and I are heading out on a road trip to see the grand canyon or something like that
I pull a large trailer with a diesel truck (super duty type). Please let your viewers know that truck-diesel nozzles meant for the "big rigs" are too wide to fit into the filler tube of a regular diesel truck. Your only option may be at the regular fueling station along with other cars. This can be a challenge for larger travel trailers and 5ers. There are sometimes a special fill station in the truck area that has the smaller consumer-type nozzle. It may be the closest pump to the store. It's always a challenge to say the least.
This is a GREAT point! I'll be sure to incorporate that in the future. I know the nozzles are much bigger, but hadn't considered how that would impact a standard diesel pickup truck! Thank you!
My 2023 duramax fits the truck stop pumps. Only thing you have too watch is that the consumer pumps I guess don’t pump as fast so it’ll overflow if you go full throttle on the pump lol
You are very correct with truck stops procedures. Another thing RV people need to know is the height of their vehicle. Very important..
Its 3 and a half years later & first time watching this video. Thank you for posting. A lot of little tid bits to remember. Thanks again!
An interesting note based on the comments about Rv'ers using truck stops:
One of the growing challenges of the RV industry is that lack of places to take an RV. They sell 400,000 RV's each year, but how many campgrounds are built during the same period? Companies like Walmart, Home Depot, and Cracker Barrel - while once very friendly to the RV community - have begun to crack down on overnight stays. My experience in the last 6 months is nothing like the ease it has been before then.
Anyone else have an opinion? What are you seeing out there? The reason I bring this up is because if truck stops are busy today, just wait: when Walmart doesn't allow us to stop there, what else can we do? I'm interested in others thoughts!
RV Master my local Walmart has stopped all overnight parking. Why I don't know. We are a small City and just figure it's going to be the norm.
I agree whole heartedly, while yes, there are many campgrounds throughout America, they often are full during peak season, which greatly impacts our ability to get the required rest in order to drive safely. We very much appreciate the privilege of a comfortable safe place to park. We also have noticed a growing trend of reluctance
at overnight parking at businesses which once welcomed us. Perhaps because of the increasing numbers, which will not change this growing trend is here to stay. Good manners and proper etiquette must prevail!
Many people parking in Walmart and other once friendly to RVers have changed their attitude due to the disrespect given to their properties. I’ve seen it and heard it many times. In only takes a few leaving trash, staying for more than a night or two or doing damages to change the perspective. I’ve seen where someone dumped their holding tank and left. Some have filled the trash cans till they overflowed and left garbage on the ground. It only takes a few to make it bad for the rest.
I have to agree with the other comments about the inconsiderate, I'm the only person in the world, pigs, that have no respect for anything including themselves. These are the people who run their generators all night. Turn their stereos up as loud they can go. Throw their trash where ever they want and ruin a good thing for the rest of us who do the right thing. It is infuriating to me that such a small minority of rvers can have such huge impact on what was once such a wonderful experience and lifestyle. Ive seen these same individuals turn a beautiful campground into something like a scene out of a Road Warrior movie, especially on holiday weekends. SOOOO sick of it😡. Thank you for letting me vent.
There is a list online that has free camping. They are usually out of the way and no facilities
Good video. I learned all that my first long camping trip. I fuel in the back with the rigs, prepay and then back into a spot. I do this for mine and everyone’s safety. I’m out of the way, and I’m avoiding the auto pumps which are tight for campers. I only stay parked long enough to grab food and restrooms.
Hey...GREAT video for a newbie Diesel driver. Also liked all the comments...pro and con. This was the best training course I've ever taken!
Thanks! If you liked this, I HIGHLY recommend getting the Class A MasterTrack series. This video is HARDLY a snippet of the information I cover in that series - including driving training, backing, campground backing, etc. Thanks for watching!
As a trucker, thank you for teaching truckstop etiquette.
This was helpful and it was nice to see truckers commenting on this as well. Thanks!
If you have a fifth wheel and not a class A, do you still need turn off any propane appliances that may be running?
. Probably a dumb question what's the difference between the diesel and the d e f
The eye of the storm DEF is diesel exhaust fluid. A chemical containing urea, it is injected into the exhaust. Where it is converted into ammonia they use this chemical reaction to reduce emissions.
As a trucker looking to buy his first class C or class A RV, I appreciate you pointing out the proper etiquette when at the fuel lanes. I always appreciate RV’ers like. Good video.
As a trucker there is very limited parking for trucks around the country. Yes you can pull in with your rv/camper but keep in mind that trucks need to park. Often there is “rv” parking around by the car parking we appreciate it if you can get into those. Otherwise just be courteous, if you’re traveling with a buddy and you both have half ton trucks with travel trailers (like one one they pull their diesel pusher next to) share the spot. You can usually pull up to the end and your buddy can pull in behind you so you’re only taking up 1 spot with your 2 rigs as long as they fit.
Sometimes you can even find where there is space eking the edges where you can parallel park along the curb, just not where trucks have to go around a corner. In that case feel free to park facing a direction that your driver side is against the curb and you can open your slide out over the grass where it won’t be in anyone’s way.
First problem, my filler was too small for the giant Truck stop hose. I guess the maker knew it couldn't vent fast enough.
Second problem, my filler was on the curb side, so the truck pumps had the master pump on the wrong side. You have to take the nozzle, lay it on the ground, then use the slave on the curb side and so you can't read the pump meter.
I was forced to use the "Auto Diesel" pumps at the regular gas pumps. You learn to not pull into pumps perpendicular to the store or else you get blocked by cars at the store. Backing up with a trailer is not easy at a fueling stop, especially solo.
I sought out Flying J's which always have a RV island.
Allen S don’t feel too sad , for years GM pickups had their DEF filler under the hood, on the curb side, but the nozzle couldn’t fit between the hood and filler hole anyway. GM stands for Great Mayhem, don’t you think? They fixed it on 2019 models at least.
Had the same problem with a diesel Uhaul. I had to use the truck pumps frequently.
I think every RV'ers should watch a video like this before pulling away from a dealership. Im a brand new RVer and had to use truck stops for fuel for the first time due to the size. I did not know about the pull thru lane and I wish I did since I had to go pay inside and pick up the receipt, but luckily no one was behind me when I returned. I would also recommend using gloves when using gloves pumping diesel and DEF
My friend just retired as a truck driver. Do RVs get same pricing as truck driver. My friend said that his company got discount on fuel, also he go credit for gallons pumped which got him shower’s or money to spend in the store or restaurant.
I realize this video is 4 yrs old. My friend also told me that some places now charge for overnight parking and even take reservations. Not sure how that works.
Good video but could add some info. I have the open roads card and also the Lives app. I never go inside or use the card reader. Everything o do is thru the app even up to getting the receipt. Have tried other truck stops like Speedway and T/A but the apps just don’t work.
Truck stop pumps are some of the dirtest pumps around. I never full up my truck with my bare hands. I recommend using rubber gloves. I just helps to keep you and your vehicle clean
Yes, FUEL and DIESEL!!! You are all correct in reminding me. There is a difference, of course. I'll work on being more clear in the future! :)
What are your feelings about school buses converted into RV’s that park in Love’s big rig parking areas and fuel up on the truck side of the station? I don’t have my bus yet (40’ er) but will be towing my car and want to avoid difficulties or misunderstandings when possible. Just as a side note: I’ve read that many/most Walmart’s won’t allow buses or RV’s to park on their lots any more. Is this also true for truckers? Also, many RV parks won’t allow converted buses (Skoolies) to park there either. Why is this?
Dude i'm thinking of doing this and i'm a serious student to the game. I am a clothing designer and will be operating online, i have Nelly (my cuz) & Snoop Dogg as models. So, i'll use a "Fifth Wheel" promote my clothing all over the states. I even have bullet proof curtains ready for the rig. lol I have things like a make shift hospital. lol I have a ham radio can talk over seas, where there is no signal. I have a repair center for the Fifth Wheel on board, even air tools and compressor. lol Night vision, heat sensors, top of the line E-rated spare tires, first aide kits, fire extinguishers, extreme weapons, welding eq & craftsman tools of all types. Thank you for the tips.
We had a Gasser and getting Diesel is so much more nice. Now it is dirtier but I like being in the truck lanes and not dealing with all the cars and people mocing and running around. The truckers know their stuff. It is tricky filling up the Diesel because it foams like crazy.
When did you check your engine oil on and water level 4 radiator
I have the utmost respect for the sacrifices truckers make for this job and their families' sacrifices. I grew up with a few guys whose dads were truckers. It's not an easy life. I understand how much regulation there is for truckers and that they are pushing to make their miles and hours. Some people are just going to not like anyone else in their space. Comes with all walks of life. I think if we all just take a moment to talk to one another instead of constantly throwing a fit and either talking down to someone or being defensive at the drop of a hat, we could make things work. Even the biggest RVs have no more than 150 gallons of fuel, unless I've missed a few outliers. An RV shouldn't take long to fill and get out of the way. Just respect what the truckers are doing.
Do you really have a speed cam detector in the windshield? In an RV?
I was wondering when someone would say something! Lol. Yes, I have one, but not for the reasons you might think. I travel a LOT of back country roads, and the speed limits can be all over the place. They're not always posted either, in the small towns across America. This helps me keep my speed in check when it gets down to 25 mph or 35 mph because it can track what the speed limit is for where I'm at. So whether there's a sign or not, or if I missed it, the unit tells me the speed limit for where I am. So that's helpful!
What about a rear slide for the bed on a Tiffin Wayfarer 25QW? You can't use the bed with it retracted. Same question for etiquette at truck stop or Wally Mart. Thx from a Newbie
If you can't use the bed with the slide retracted, then you have very few options for "stealth camping" (camping in parking lots while trying not to bother anyone). That's something to consider when purchasing an RV!
As a trucker which ever side you slide is on park that side to the edge. If you slide is on the left park to the far left so you slide is over the grass.
Don't buy Tffin if you park on a public lot to rest or sleep
I'll never understand why people feel the need to actually hit the Thumbs Down icon. This video is quite helpful for the Novice Diesel Pusher owner! Well Done! I wish it was on-line when I got my DP years ago. Nice video.
I am 67 years old retired . My kids run my Biz .
I caravan with a group .
We set out at night watch TV play music have cocktails we even play music
My i play Guitar
Les Paul and a Strat. Plus i have Yamaha Piano.
Sometumes we do get loud .
But theres 12 to 15 coachs we bring a lot of revenue to the Park like in Palm Springs we stay 3 months
Napa Ca 6 weeks
Yakama washington 8 weeks
Wisconsin 6 weeks Maine 2 months
that DEF is a bad set up, what if you got it in the box? Im not tryin to nit pick but you know your supposed to idle for about 3 min before you shut it down.
Btw some of us know your new to truck stops and we also know you are out of your comfort zone. We know this and we don’t get pissed when u look lost.
Everyone is allowed to be new.
Signed :
Not a rv hater trucker !
I fuel all the time in a truck one would thing they could figure out how to make payments at the pump
My RV is a gas powered unit so I only have to ask em once
Thanks, Gcal 1956. You've got a great attitude - i'll try my best to be respectful of your turf. Peace.
He should add "Put the cap back on the filler neck and LOCK the vehicle before leaving it."
A courteous "thanks" to the cashier would have been nice. Twice.
Appreciate'ya, gearmasher. Keep the rubber side down and the shiny side up out there.
Very nice video and fun to watch. Have a nice day.
Thank you! I just want to help people have a better RV experience!
Why did you park closer to the fuel office?
I a full timer myself .i have a American Eagle coach . I think its standard with a RV prepay
Both have a $200k vehicle. The tv is 45' plus 25' tow vehicle including hitch. The travel center is designed to accommodate both . some facilities are safer and cleaner than others. Yes time GPS is a stress factor for truckers. It helps to use technology to schedule rest stops food showers and laundry. Not all units are Mobil taught a w all a amenities just like big rigs.
So you turn off def key after filling?
Awesome video. These small videos are key for newbie DP owners. Keep up the good job.
Any way of getting around LOVES high price they charge extra for non truckers to fill up? Most Trucker get a discount for fuel with a fuel card. Pure extra profit for the truck stop when a motor home pulls in.
Are there any truck stop that have gas pumps? I know the Flying J have RV pumps for all your needs.
What is consumer cards??
What type of fuel is the DEF you are referring to? I'm from Australia, not a truck or RV driver.
new to diesel,just bought a '84 chevy step van with diesel engine,do I need to use def
No. Only passenger diesels trucks from about 2011 and up have a dpf and in turn require def to work. Just a trucker here watching some rv videos lol
bluered1322 cool,thank you
@@bluered1322 DEF and DPF two different systems... often found together. The DPF is a filter... after it starts to clog the engine goes through a 'regen' where it injects extra fuel to heat the filter up and burn off the carbon. The DEF fluid is injected into the exhaust ahead of the catalyzer (SCF, Selective Catalytic Reduction), the chemical reaction gets rid of the NOx smog-inducing pollutants.
Do you still have your Pallazo and what year is it? Have you had any major problems? I'm thinking of buying a 2014 (33.2) or maybe a newer year. Can you comment? I have subscribed to your channel. Thanks for your video.
Hello! I don't have that Palazzo anymore... I had the same kinds of problems I'd have with any RV! I chose the Palazzo mostly on the floor plan. I liked the mid-entry door and how they laid out the air conditioners. If you're thinking of buying, MAKE SURE you buy my Buyer's Track videos! It's over 7 hours of content - everything you need to know, think about, and consider before making a purchase. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Enjoyed your video, appreciated your tips and found it informative and to the point! Very professionally done.
Thank you.
what the guy meant to say at 7:11 was : that diesel pump nozzles are wider then gas nozzle 's. another tip this guy did not mention . Due to the fcat as he mentioned pumps at a higher rate ( Gallon per minute or GMP) that you should hold on to the nozzle when it is pumping since it can due to the higher GPM vs gas pumps can and hev e been known to pop out due to the higher GPM
One correction to your comment on pulling up when finished fueling. Just run in to get your receipt and pull out. If you need to do anything more (restroom, eat, browse the store, etc.) pull out and park in the parking lot. Do not block the fuel lane exit.
I would like to know if a auxiliary fuel tank can be installed on a Class A Diesel Pusher Mobile home??? I know that most Class A's have a 150 Gallon Tank..... So can you install another 100 to 150 Gallon Tank on the other side of the chassis???
Of course... I could put a 100gallon tank on my F250 too. As long as you have a place for it, of course. Talk to your manufacturer or dealer, or local RV service place. Diesel is much safer than gasoline.
This RV appears to have a poor setup for filling the DEF. If you have to fill it with a jug, is there enough clearance above to tip it up? Note the cover over the DEF nozzle and hose -- because the space is heated in the winter, the fluid may freeze at temps below -10°C.
Just a tip but get yourself a pair of gloves dedicated to fueling, diesel migrates from the pump to your hands, clothes and coach ,and leave the gloves in a side compartment that you don't mind smelling like diesel and getting dirty . Even your shoes will get diesel on the soles it truly is a messy ordeal
Years ago, I worked in filling stations for a decade, including a few years at a full service truck stop. Since I am outside at the pumps all day, I wouldn't even think of touching them without leather - palmed work gloves.
Can you run your generator at the truck stop at the pull through if you stay?
Mike Roadstar yes. It’s pretty loud at those truckstops because all the trucks are running their refrigeration units and generators. So running a generator all night only adds to the noise that’s already there. I’ve never had an issue with it.
How often do you need to get DEF? I'm thinking of getting a C or B+ and many come on the Mercedes diesel chassis. Although I can get the diesel anywhere, everyone says the best place to get DEF is at truck stops. So how often will I need to get DEF?
LisaMarli in my case, I had about 100 gallon fuel tank for diesel and maybe a 10-gallon DEF tank. I had to fill def every fourth time. It's not that often, and it's not that expensive. That was just my experience.
Walmart sells def and it only cost about four cents a gallon, much less than truck stops and comes in a two and a half gallon container.
John Gaither wow so much hate. Apparently he made a mistake
What the heck is DEF?
Eydreun Rodriguez it’s stuff that every new diesel needs. It’s a stores it burns exhaust super hot to clean it. But then you get worse fuel mileage
Just curious, why did the RV manufacturer engineer the vehicle where the def tank fill is so far away from the diesel fill? One would think they can put both tanks side by side. After all, the def tank is only at the most 15 gal. Good video. Trucker since 1979.
Fuel is in front because of the weight..engine is in rear on his rig so because DEF freezes in winter time you want that tank close to the engine closer to engine means less distance to pump DEF..lessens chance of line freezes..once DEF freezes or the lines freeze the engine (diesel) goes into limp mode..way down on power..thanks be to our Masters GOVment Masters..
Not being a trucker, just a curious viewer. Can somebody please explain to me what in blue blazes G P S is, the fuel that is not the Satellite system ?.
You mean DEF? The Google is your friend!
no wonder I got nowhere when I tried looking it up the audio quality on my computer is terrible
Does a DEF pump shut of automagicly like a gas pump?
…I actually don’t remember. But no, I don’t think it does.
@@RVMasters Cool, thanks for the reply.
You don't have Love rewards card?
I just hit yes when it asks if I want a receipt at the pump and it will give me the correct receipt. I now have two receipts! Weird. Try it.
The DEF nozzle has a magnetic trigger in it to make it pump. What I do at work to trucks when they don’t pump is use a magnet that slips over the nozzle so you can fill up a tank or a jug without a magnet in the actual tank being needed.
Both Diesel and DEF pumps have auto shutoffs. If this RV is like our trucks, diesel won't be full, you have to slowly top it off, diesel likes to foam, bubble and slosh. DEF is almost completely full when it shuts off however. Maybe an extra click or two, but not that important.
As for capacities for DEF, depending on spec of truck (i assume RV's have unusually large def tanks) it will last until a second fuelling. However if you're the absent minded type, or get out into the wilderness, it would be best to fill DEF with every fuelling when available (such as truck stop, since you're there anyways) in case you need diesel at a small station that doesn't have any DEF at pump (far, far cheaper than in the bottles)
As well, as a regional driver, I don't complain if you're parking your RV in a truck lane if it's a full sized RV. Your Econoline van will piss a whole bunch of road drivers off if it's in a 90 foot space. If you use a pull through parking lane, move all the way up, so a bobtail or straight truck can get all comfy up behind you in the same space. also word of advice, leave clearance lights on when stopped, mandatory at night. In parking lots or spaces, it makes the vehicle much easier to see, especially when hidden in parking slots.
For those who said "it's called a truck stop for a reason" re-read the signs. Both Flying Js and Loves are no longer called "truck-stops" but "Travel Centers." They cater to RVers as well as truckers. I have relatives and close friends who are/were OTR drivers. My uncle would say "get out and offer to help a Diesel RVer instead of complaining". FYI many states do not allow overnighting in rest areas.
Roy Davis well said. A lot of angry comments on here. Maybe somebody needs a job change. lol
Don't need to be condescending. If you bought it, we brought it! Thanks for the lack of respect.
They only call them travel center now to bring in more people to make money other than that it is a truck stop. so have so respect for the truck drivers
So good of you to take the time and do this video on truck stop etiquette. Really helpful. Good work and safe travels.
Appreciated the comments on truck stop etiquette. Thanks.
I know you do not need DEF fluid at every fill up, but it would make sense for manufacturers to put these tanks closer to each other so you dont have to move the rig
Or how about buying it in bulk at Sam's Club, for example? Is not it cheaper this way?
....and then there are manufacturers who put the DEF fill on the passenger side. Talk about a pain in the *ss.
@@gonebyrv9748 and there's not dual fill on either side!? Whoever is responsible for that should be slapped silly
A couple hints as a retired trucker. You can frequent one of the major chains and obtain their fuel card for a discount. All the major truck stops offer fuel reward cards, get one. Not only do you get a free shower with every 50 gallons you build points which you can buy food and store merchandise.
When fueling it's a good idea to wear gloves. If you fuel with diesel your hands tend to get dirty.
When walking in a truck stop parking lot always square off your route. Never walk shortcut angles. Many drivers have been run over in the past. Take it seriously. Walking the edges makes you safer. When walking in front of trucks at the fuel island always make eye contact with the driver in the truck. Never assume he sees you.
Loves are great truck stops but they are not the biggest. I prefer Pilot/Flying J. TA and Petro are other big chains.
If you are parking overnight some spots are safer than others. Drivers always back from the drivers side. The passenger side of their trailer is their blind side so keep that in mind. Ideally the back row end spot to the right is the safest spot. Parking beside an island or curb is safer. Don't hide in the back of the spot. Favor the front so drivers can see you but not too much you make their backing difficult.
Last if you look usually in the bathroom hallway area you'll see the truck stop's fuel directory hanging on the wall. Grab you a free one to help find future truck stops or you can use apps if you prefer. Happy travels.
Ok, it's time for me to weigh in! Yes, you CAN back up with a tow bar - I'm just not going to teach it as a company. It depends on your skill, technique, vehicle, and kind of tow bar. Generally speaking, if you don't do it right, you can do a tremendous amount of damage, including: bending the tow bar, transmission issues depending on your setup, and most common is the front wheels of the tow vehicle jerking hard to the side and dragging horribly as your monster pushes that little thing down the road.
If you're going to do it, learn the technique! But I"m not gonna tell you how.... :)
Also, regarding truckers vs Rv'ers: It's true that these truck stops really belong to the truckers. This is their home away from home and they've driven a long way to get to this one stop. Remember, they're limited by hours and logs, so they can't always just drive down the road another hour for the next truckstop.
I believe strongly in being respectful to them and staying out of their way. They've developed a dislike for RV'ers for 2 main reasons: RV'ers don't know how to drive, and RV'ers don't know or follow rules of etiquette. Don't be that person! Get trained!
RV Masters over the years I have driven well over a million miles in 3 different diesel pushers I've had dollies on each one of those. Just say that you can pack a dolly up with a car on it when the manual and warning signs on a dolly stating do not back out is opening yourself to libel lawsuits and why you would say that some of the people that don't know how to drive their RVs to learn a technique backing with a dolly it's just plain foolish so obviously you don't know what you're talking about
We were discussing backing a flat 4 towed vehicle, not one that is on a dolly.
RV Masters, Saying rv ers are bad drivers is just nonsense. There are BAD drivers everywhere!!!!! Saying that on this platform , you clearly haven't watched the youtube videoes of truck drivers that are supposedly trained professionals!!! Everyone needs to get off their high horses!! As long as there are HUMANS driving whatever, wherever, however!! There WILL ALWAYS BE GOOD PEOPLE AND ASSHATS!! Everyones bitching and self righteousness does NOT do anything that helps!!
You wasted your time to tell everyone (twice) you won't tell them how to back up? Great post
I am a old truck driver that now drives a desk. I’ve had a bumper pull for 30 years and am looking at a pre 2007 pusher. Without emissions junk. To be honest, an rv in a truck stop or rest area irritated me. Especially if I had to go down the road. I never retaliate if they were parked only taking up one spot. When tip outs became a thing, it would take up part of a second spot. I would get within an inch or two, then turn my reefer on continuous. I could also cock the tractor over to make it very difficult to leave, especially if I was parked on their left side. I agree that it was rude and immature. But, so was taking up two spots. I have pulled my camp trailer many miles and have never slept in a truck stop or rest area. A helpful hint is, campers and motor homes can park in the car area. If you are going to stop for a short time, park there and that way you aren’t taking up a spot. Drivers have to take a 30 minute break after 8 hours of driving and 10 off after 11 hours of driving or 14 hours of on duty. These are federally mandated and if a driver goes beyond that, they not only can be fined, they can accrue points on their CDL, as well be shut down for 10 hours at a weight station. Which may not have rest rooms. I’m sure that I will receive thumbs down and I’m okay with criticism. Your opinion means as much as mine does. Enjoy your day.
Just a thought why don't you put the def fill beside the fuel fill nozzle would make more sense right just saying
My thor has the DEF inlet 6" below the Diesel inlet.
What's that other stuff you have to fill up when you date or something
Do rv have to use cat scales
2:56 NEVER leave your key in the ignition switch or your vehicle unlocked at a filling station..!!! You're just asking for trouble..!!!!!
upfreaks not really i leave my truck on all day everyday (except for fueling) most people will leave your truck alone but if your in a place like detroit,atlanta,Memphis etc... then yeah look that bitch tight then an overprotective father over his daughter's virginity
One of the most useful videos I have seen! You covered the whole process and then some! Great job!
I'm a truck driver and I think the best solution is for the truck stops to start making more RV parking spaces specifically for rvers that way everyone wins. The problem with RV or getting into truckers parking places you guys don't get tickets for being illegal on your logs but I do understand when you drive a piece of equipment that is as big as they are you guys need parking to hopefully truck stops will come up with a plan
Great advise. 5 to 10 minutes would be more accurate. However if parking is available, just go park. Remember the drivers are working and have limited time. However a lot of truck drivers have less courtesy than you
Scott Myers especially with E logs
Scott Myers who fucking cares, the rest of us work too! Do truck drivers give a fuck about us when they lane hog on a freeway...you know what I mean, plugging the passing lane while going up hill because the rig in the driving lane can only pull the fucking hill 1 mph slower than they are.
So fuck them!!
How many times are you going to repeat yourself?
He's not wearing a seatbelt! Are seatbelts optional when driving an RV?
In the back...they ARE! In the front two positions...I believe they are not optional.
I agree with the pro drivers and RVers. Truck stop are nasty places to fuel. Always have a pair of NON leather gloves. Diesel will wick into leather and make your hands stink. Also, DEF is caustic. You don’t want a chemical burn.
Agreed, get your receipt and move to park area or head down road. Waiting for the person in front of you is a PITA. And if it’s a travel center, what person doesn’t like to look around? People shop. Meanwhile a driver trying to hot foot out of there is losing their cool by being blocked in.
Thanks for the vid, safe travels to all!
I'm sure some truckers assume we have no respect for truck stop etiquette. When we fill up with DEF we have no choice but to go in from the wrong direction as the DEF fill is on the passenger side of the rig. I'm sure the manufacturer got plenty of feedback as Entegra put duel DEF fill in the next model model year. We try to get in and out as fast as possible.
We have a 2000 model diesel pusher with a smaller fuel neck. This proves to be difficult with a small neck if you are going to find one. The small neck diesel dispenser will be the pump closer to the building. At least that has been our experience.
Just go into any "gas station" that also has diesel pumps for pickups and all the other diesel powered smaller vehicles, and the nozzles are the very same as the gasoline dispenser nozzles, only with a Green rubberized handle cover, instead of Black for the gasoline nozzles.
why watch the gauge on the DEF tank?..... just pump till its full it will kick off when its full
Have to open my one wall slide (30feet long), there is less then 12" inside to move to the bed.. So something has to open or I cant make it to the bed. My wife is 5' 0" tall and she cant even get to the bathroom or bed without one of the 2 sides being open.
That is a poor design. Always amazes me that people never seem to check how usable a RV is when slides are in.
A few things you need to add, especially for the newbie; first off, fuel stations are filthy; wear gloves when you use the fuel nozzle and always have an extra pair of shoes you can slip on at the door to walk out on the concrete with. Grease, diesel and whatnot everywhere! Second; Most diesel pushers have twin tanks and I fill from both sides at the same time. Truck drivers don't want to wait on your inability to dispense the fuel like you should. I had a 100 gal fuel tank on each side and could be in an out as fast as the truckers could. The fuel card is the answer for the trips in and out. If you have a Good Sam card, they are supposed to work at Pilot's, but that hasn't happened yet for me. You will also find that no matter how well you manage your time at the truck stop, there are truckers who don't like that fact that you are tooling down the road at your leisure and they are working and you are holding them up. Unless I am just so tired I can't go any further, I never stay at a truck stop. It's for those drivers that have to stop and sleep. Lastly, lock you door when you leave your rig!
Those are all really great points! I also didn't show that you're also supposed to have some diesel fuel cleanup spread for diesel spills (it kinda looks like cat litter).
It's also true that you can pump diesel on both sides in most diesel pushers. However, at least with my rig, I can't leave the pump unattended because of the way the angle is - it sprays out way before it auto stops. So when I dual fuel I have to calculate how much I need and stop one of the sides before I get to 80%, then get to the other side. That's just my experience.
Exactly, imagine if it were the other way and truckers pulled into RV camping spots. RVers would be irate. Drove commercially for over 25 years, I still have my CDL. I now pull a 38’ trailer. Being respectful goes a long ways and it goes both ways. As an RVer most don’t have a schedule anything like a trucker. You aren’t being watched and timed by a device required by law. You can park in many places including Walmart’s parking lots. Many Walmart lots are off limits to truckers. Most RVers are either vacationing, retired or working a schedule more forgiving than a truckers schedule.
My Good Sam card works at Flying J and Pilot. It also helps to have a Fly J/Pilot RV rewards card. It lets you pay at the pump. The RV Rewards Card is free. The reward card authorizes the pump .Fly J / Pilot RV Rewards card when used with a Good Sam Fuel card, gets you a 6 cent per gal. discount.
I have to agree with Joe's statement about the fuel stations being filthy! I had an encounter at a small gas station that had the diesel pumps behind the building for semi's and RV's to get get fuel, well there was standing water (which happened to be mixed with diesel) and I went to step over the puddle, slipped, fell on my ass, covered the back of my clothes in the mixture of gravel, water, diesel and cut my hand! I was not happy, especially when i had to go in and pay for the fuel covered in crap! The foreigners running the station never said a WORD as i went to their disgusting bathroom to attempt to clean up (which was about as dirty as the outside!) nor when i payed and told them what happened! Not a "I'm Sorry" or anything! After that i learned to only buy fuel at well known and clean stations!
I use a Fuel Card that i signed up for thru the Gas Buddy app. Gives me a discount when making fuel purchases and it ties to my bank account. One thing that threw me off when using the card at a large truck stop was that the pump asked if the fuel was for the "tractor" say YES! Trucks as we call them are also known as Tractors in the Trucking World.
Also, if you don't have an RV with a generator (I pull a 41' Coachmen Chaparral 5th wheel & no generator behind my F-350 Diesel) then it is much more comfortable to find a KOA along your route. They always have a spot or two for travelers that come in after hours (or dark), just fill out the registration slip and put some cash in the envelope into the night deposit.
Todd Davis the reason the pump asks if the fuel is for the tractor semi is because the fuel for refer units is taxed less.
Pretty sweet seatbelt you have! Buckle up dude
Why do you need def?