What Type of Greenhouse Should You Build?
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
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Today we're going to take a look at several types of greenhouses. These are just some of the more popular styles and there are many variations. It's simply some information to help provide some food-for-thought when you are ready to build one.
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The length was perfect and I'm glad you ended with reminding us that we can always grow in the great out doors, even though it's dependant on seasonal, environmental factors. Thank you for including the reviews of the styles that you wouldn't recommend, I found it just as helpful!
Chinese farmer here and we indeed mostly use the Chinese style of greenhouse.
For easy roll/unrolling of the cover material, older ones have pulley systems or counterweights on the other side of the wall. New ones mostly go electric, one button push and let the motor do all the work.
I haven't seen anyone use cloth to keep warm. Most I saw used cotton quilt or straw mat.
Snow removal is not that great. Last week my area suffered from 2 days of snowstorm, and a lot of these greenhouses in the area were crushed. I'm here looking for structural design ideas.
Because the cold winds always blow from the north side, snow accumulates quickly and not evenly on the south side, and the weight can either bend the beam or horizontally add too much pressure on the wall.
I love the diagrams to explain how the light will affect each green house. Very useful info, even if it’s a longer video. Thanks!
Lots of great diagrams! I made some RUclips videos of my passive greenhouse using "unistrut". I managed to get 20' of glass without any obstructions (no structural beams etc). The glass I used is frequently thrown out (free) from interior remodeling of businesses!! In fact, the unistrut was being thrown out too.
Awesome video, especially for beginners looking to get an overview on the types of greenhouses out there. Thanks for all the effort put into explaining the designs 😀
Thank you that was great. I live in Canada and all that information is going to come in handy. Much appreciated the conversion to the metric system.
Great video! The length was perfect for the topic, as you were through without being redundant. Thanks very much!
I would love to see a passive solar with a berm, or a huge dome! Can't get enough of bucky's design. Wish I could make something like the eden project in England for cheap but that would cost millions! Lol your vids are so good and informative I always wish they were longer or at least had one more often. I am always super excited when I see one of your vids pop into my subscription feed! Can't wait to come up there and take a tour one day.
as you added 'the great outdoors', maybe I should point out something in the middle: Just a transparent roof. That is the great outdoors but then without rain, which is beneficial for tomatoes to keep them from contracting blight
I'm currently in the process of designing our family homestead, thank you for this video! It was extremely helpful in deciding which greenhouse we will use!
makes me feel pretty lucky to live where we don't have to deal with the snow loads! thanks for the info on expense, structural strength, light intensity for these greenhouse options.
Wow, like others here I was overwhelmed with the number of designs I wasn't familiar with yet. I've been gardening for years, seen a bunch of videos, etc., but this is the video I'm recommending to any fellow gardeners looking for ideas--especially if I can convince them to do shots every time you say "whatnot." :D Thanks and Best Wishes.
Very informative video. You covered everything except for cold frames, which I would have included. Granted these are typically used to harden of your seedlings before spring planting, but they could also extend your growing season for things like carrots, radishes, strawberries and even raspberries provided you keep them pruned back and extend the height of the cold frame wall. Just a thought to all your subscribers who are thinking about getting started in green housing.
22:31 "Moo" Hahaha!! Brilliant, loved that.
Great video.
The Chinese style Greenhouse is basically what I'm looking for, but without the permanence, more of just a frame I can lean up against the building and cover with plastic sheeting as I wait to harvest. Now I just have to find some plans and adapt them to my space and needs. Thanks
To be honest I enjoy the longer ones just because of the fact it's more information
Hey Rob,
Great video, truly informative. I would not worry about the length of any of your videos, you always have something to share. My problem is I can't get enough of your videos. You've got so much growing on up there at the farm I wish you could cover EVERYTHING. From the geodesic green house to the fields to the fruit trees. Get out there and document it all. This autumn I hope you will do another walk around the property showing off that great fall foliage. Also I'm looking forward to the new green house build, but where are you going to build it (in one of the fields)? Winter is coming, is the rocket stove ready? If you want go ahead and answer these questions in a NUTS video.
Cheers,
Bill
+William “Bill” Walter It will be in a video, but we're going to level out one of our fields and put the greenhouses there. Rocket stove and wood stove are ready! I"m filming an update video about them this weekend. Probably won't do any more NUTS videos....very low viewing on them...and people keep asking questions that I answer in them anyway! ;-)
As a soon to be greenhouse builder, I respect a good long variety of info. I've watched most of your videos about builds, congrats to being in my private "Brains" folder that stores the best of the best videos about the subject. On that note, make the video, keep on target and let it rip. I appreciate you and your videos.
Great video, thanks for making it. I like the long format a lot. I have missed a lot of your recent shorter vids, but was very exited to watch this in depth one on one topic (this has been a person trend for me with all my YT viewing)
Thanks! You pointed out some considerations that never would have occurred to me.
This really helped on making my next decisions on a greenhouse project
Great work, very informative on different greenhouse structures, just what I was looking for! Thank you
I like comprehensive work! take your time!
This is a great and useful video regarding greenhouse choices - pros and cons. Thanks for being so thorough!
The barrels will exchange heat with the interior whether or not they are in line of sight with the sun. Thermal mass in general helps to moderate temperature in both summer and winter.
My experience with passive solar was that keeping humidity high and stable was THE biggest factor in reducing temperature swings.
@@caddad49 ids solve that concern.
They will absorb much more energy if they are in line with the sun. Convection is only part of the exchange, radiation from the sun is around 1000watts per square meter(reduced for glazing and angle and reflection)
Your concerns about the pit or in ground greenhouses are all addressable. There are easy solutions to all of them. Sounds to me like either you haven't done enough research on them or just don't like them for some weird reason and are finding excuses. With the earth heating and cooling, the floor adds thermal mass too, not just the walls, plus there are ways to increase the geothermal heating and cooling abilities of the greenhouse. You can use mirrors to reflect morning and evening sun into the shadowed areas. And simple fences or rails can keep large animals and humans off the greenhouse (or you can just elevate the roof above the ground level a bit). Finally I know of several big name greenhouses that are located much farther north than you and use no heating yet grow stuff all year round.
And your concerns with solar greenhouses are addressable too. There is a company in Colorado that is producing large passive solar greenhouses for industry. And their designs do not make heating an issue. You need to do much better research. This is not a good video on all the types of greenhouse because you info is not accurate enough.
Very informative video. I like the solar greenhouse's use of water barrels, even if it's not always applied efficiently.
You are a good teacher. I prefer shorter ones but on occasions, when you have a lot to present, I have no problems with the lengthier ones.
Thank you for sharing, very helpful.
great video. your work on RUclips is a fantastic resource. loved all your videos of the dome project!
Good video. Need to learn how to keep plants in winter. Moved from CA to Texas. It’s a lot different and I hate when my plants die. So this information is very needed currently.
thank you so very much for posting the link for the t-shirt! I'm ordering it right now :-)
This is a great video. Thank you for taking the time! I’m sharing with my neighbors and family.
very informative, i like that you mentioned so many different types
As far as I'm concerned, your videos can't be too long. Keep 'em coming!
Excellent information, thank you for a great overview!
Thanks for taking us through that. Lots of good info.
Thank you tons for the knowledge! !!
Good overview of greenhouse types. Answer of what type is for you is "depends." Zone, wind exposure, budget, long term goals, etc. all play a factor as you have outlined here. We went with a 2V geodesic dome, 22' in diameter, using the high tech bubble film called solawrap here in the states (made in Germany) for the cover. The large triangles of the 2V were able to minimize waste of the 2m wide solawrap,. We we also able to cover 4 triangles with one run of the material. North wall is insulated with Reflectix, and we have a ground to air heat transfer system (GAHT) with tubing buried 3-4' under the dome to stabilize the temperature. It was 17 degrees outside this morning, and dome interior is 34 degrees.
i wonder how long it's gonna be until youtube starts censoring gardening videos
why
Thank you for the video. Very helpful in my horticulture course at SRJC!
Thank you. Very informative.
Hey! Did you know this is the _number one_ result when you type "greenhouse" in the RUclips search bar? Nicely done!
+Scott Baker That's pretty cool! It's been getting a lot more views than my other videos so I guess people are liking it. I had a big hit earlier this month from some site called survivopedia.com. ;-)
You do know what shows up in the search bar is based on your algorithm right?
Sorry, but not nicely done. You need to do more extensive research and then recreate this video. You are claiming that pit and solar greenhouses have some big flaws when they do not. The problems you talk about are easily corrected.
@@SSanatobaJR ...The pit one does have a lot of unexpected big flaws, as do they all, for first time green thumbs...which every person on video that I have seen, who has built most any type of green house or tunnel structure of any kind, say they would do differently, to suit their exact requirements, the next time. The pit one, needs a 6 foot pit, to be a true pit, which uses the existing earth as a basis for its structure. Any water that does comes in, can escape via a pipe to the outside, and the warm air, (from being buried 6 or so feet in the ground,)can also flow back up the pipe to the inside and rise to help heat the thing. You put all the dozed out soil, from making the 6 ft deep x say 20 foot long, pit, behind the proposed cold winter wall, and use the east side from the ground up, to maximise the winter sun. The big mistake most make is not digging the deep water escape pipe trench, before they pile up mountains of dirt around it. My cellar, 7 ft down, maintains an all year round temp of 54F...or 12C, so the benefit of the pit sounds a good deal if one has the space...and a bit of a smallish rise in their yard.
great content
VERY WELL DONE, LOVE YOUR ILLUSTRATIONS
Great! I found this very interesting
A lot of great info. Thanks!!
I personally love the longer videos. The more info the better. Especially when the presentation is professional quality. ;-)
I like the way you think about the at home growers as compared to the commercial growers needs.
thank you for posting, and yes longer vids are good too
Great video, very informative and thank you for explaining about the Chinese greenhouse. That's the one I plan on trying to build and I didn't even know such existed! My garden is too small for a greenhouse so I thought my garden should become the greenhouse. The plan is to make the top cover retractable so I can dismantle it in the spring - it's a work in progress in my head at the moment. Any thoughts on this idea would be gratefully received. Regards, Poo
Thanks for sharing your analysis.
Alot of work, thank you, very informative.
Thank you for all this great information! Do you have a recommendation for seasonal greenhouses that could go over existing garden beds for hobbyists?
Really great information....thanks a lot
This was a cool video, considering doing a small hybrid of a bermed passive solar / Chinese greenhouse here. Our winters don’t usually get overly cold during the days, so if I can retain heat, that would probably work. I currently just have some indoor plants and a cold frame outside as an experiment in late season growing. First freeze may happen this week, so we will see how it goes, but everything I planted outside should be fine down to about 20F, or so.
I am designing and building a new greenhouse on my place for my aquaponics system from repurposed materials. Thanks for some great input. I have 2 12× 24 hoop houses one is my aquaponics lab the other is the aviary. I have the material to build a glass double paned greenhouse that doubles as a solar pumphouse, water purification, and aquaponics lab. Most my production is still in my gardens but I love the aquaponics. Sadly last year my current greenhouse was severely damaged by Hurricane Harvey but I have almost rebuilt it.
Thank you for the great video, I've been trying to figure out the orientation for my gothic arch greenhouse. You explained it very nice
This is awesome. I'm just over the border north of you, so nice to have information that's relevant to our temperatures. Thanks!
Thanks. I get a bunch of comments from people all bent out of shape with this presentation. ;-)
Thank you for this informational video its was really helpful to see the different styles of greenhouses.
great video, would have appreciated it more if It had more of a high-level overview / comparison chart where we could see all the options / metrics laid out in a large table / pros/cons table
I love the cow you included for size reference. He's adorable.
This was excellent. I live in NE Ct. Thank you.
Thank You! Great Info. Working on a PVC stricture covered w/ polycarbonate in S.A. Texas!
I love rewatching this video
pro money saving tip: you can get tons of free trampolines in the fall, as people will throw them away then. That is the free steel arch. I made raised arches with the straight tubes on the bottom and "ladder style with each half facing eachother. Trampolines are lego pieces with a little angle grinder treatment.
Then covered with building plastic sheets. Or roof stingers in between the modules.
Not for winter growing, but it is a cheap way to prolong the growing season and makes good free/cheap structures.
Where do people just throw away trampolines? That being said, we found our trampoline in the alley, but that was the only one I ever saw lol.
Thanks!
The walipini greenhouse is an awesome concept for insulation but it does seem like it would be difficult to get adequate light. I'd love to see some of these in person and how growers have made them work for them!
you can see one of these in Canada: ruclips.net/video/DPfmYNNo-4U/видео.html. They speak french but this is interesting as you can see the design at least.
I have an in ground greenhouse, 6 feet below grade. The "heat of the earth" idea is not true. It would be true of a pipe you buried that deep, but the glazing(greenhouse plastic) lets heat out faster than the earth could put it in
Most of what you said makes me think it'd be wiser to invest in multiple small greenhouses over single large ones to avoid heating excess space and paying extra fees. It's so frustrating to me that growers have to deal with permits and taxes on top of how expensive just the greenhouses are. Makes me feel inclined to just have several small hoop houses with poles right in the ground than dealing with laying a foundation and paying fees. Thanks for the informative vid!
I could do without the background music. I prefer listening to this man speak. Information, not entertainment, is what I came for. This is REALLY GREAT, by the way. Saving me watching loads of other videos to try to find all this information all over RUclips. Good to have it all in one video - no matter how long.
You could use heating coils in between the buikdings in the gutter connect style so the snow doesn't build up 👌
Did you consider "sun traps"? that is a short heat retaining wall running east-west or curved with the inside of the curve facing the sun. It creates a micro-climate with elevated summer temperatures.
Great info! Thank you.
Thanks for the SI-Units :)
Hi.
Any thoughts on bubble insulation?
I like the one into the ground for personal use non commercial. And I would make it wide to eliminate shadows. With a 6 foot wide grow area. And 20 foot wide floor.
this was very informational propagation guide to different types of greenhouses. Im really curious if you've had an academic experiences. I will say in Northern California we don't get very much snow, so factors of rain might apply to the greenhouse factors
Alon pannels would be neat to use to build a harsh climate green house design. 😊
Can you do a video over green house heating solutions?!? Plz and thank you
Very informative. Thank you for posting!
At 17:50 I realized that was a fish tank. I freaked, was greatly unexpected lol
Also the passive solar, why not lay the barrels down sideways on the south wall and plant things over the barrels? They should get enough light to warm up, correct?
Very good information thank you for sharing
thanks man thumbsup excellent I needed this
Excellent discussions. Helpful. Thanks.
Great comparison. I like the Chinese version. The one that I saw has 2 outside layers separated about 1-2' at the top and 1' at the bottom. The bottom ring has the clear poly. About 1' up, at the top, is a spool with the blanket. The top has a 2nd layer of poly with some motorized shakers that installed on the top ring. These shakers are used to vibrate off the snow. The additional ring is to prevent the blanket from getting wet.
For my situation, I'' probably add some geothermal tubing on the back wall along with on the lower front wall - this will feed a below the frost line loop and would be used for adding heat in the winter and some additional cooling in the summer. If you had a pool/pond, you could use it as a dump for the extra heat in the summer. Put some solar up to run the water pumps and controller and you're set.
Just my 2 cents
Just use some imagination and take the your favorite advantages of the various greenhouses and combine them into one design. For example some of my favorite advantages are the temperature stability of the wilipini, but i also like the morning sun advantage of the traditional. So i will consider making a wilipini but the roof won't be level with or even near the ground level, it will be up 8 more ft, a 2 story green house. It will appear like a regular traditional single level above ground greenhouse from a distance with the walls protruding upward 8 ft above ground level and the roof on top of that. But in reality the wall is 16 ft high, because 8 ft of it is hidden in the ground, it will be 8 ft of block wall in the ground to meet the footing. That lower level basement will be for mushrooms, water storage, composting, and by being 8 ft down it will have stable temps all thru the greenhouse, the first story too because you engineer in huge vent areas from basement to first story, along with the vents in the green house for summer, and in winter the composting going on in the basement gives additional heat. So you can grow stuff on the first story and get benefits of morning sun and benefits of stable ground temps from the basement, while have that extra space to use for composting for additional heat in winter, and can also let wood product rot and mushroom and composting, and water storage all in that temperature stable environment, helping to keep it stable. Even the mass of the water you store under the greenhouse is used to help stabilize temps in the house.
Love the long form!
Great Video and very informative. Not to long as you kept changing the subject or greenhouse type. THANKS!
Thanks, this was very informative.
Nice one, thanks
What considerations would you make for a greenhouse on the arctic circle? It's a bit complicated that in the summer the sun rises and sets in the north, and doesn't show up at all for a few weeks in the dead of winter. Yearly average temps of 4c, frosts 9 months of the year.
Hey, that was a great video and really thorough. Didn't realise Goths were so popular in the world of green houses. I searched for Chinese greenhouse and you came up. It has made me think about loads of things, which I'm now gonna draw. Cheers.
Glad you enjoyed!
@@Bigelowbrook I've just finishing sketching it all out. I used some charcoal bamboo I made for the first time. And that in itself was great. Thanks for getting back to me and the inspiration.
Excellent little breakdown!
Nice review. One point on Geodesic domes. A ton of waste materials during construction. Just think about getting triangles from rectangles of material. Also as you said nothing is square so increased construction time.
lurnd more about greenhouses in25 min than after 2 yers in gardeningscool. thanks.
Next step. Master spelling :P
Lots of good info and some decisions changed for me here.
Thanks for the deets! Super informative... Cheers!
Im planning one with vents to my chicken coop and other areas and for it to have a trout (& other fish etc) pool under it.
Walipini-Earthship... So the walls will be made out of used cartires and thick "soil plaster"... Just like the original structure, this eartship will to, keep the inside cool during summer and warm during winter^^
You showed a semetrical Walapini when most in northern climates have only ONE steeper south facing side, heating up cement or water barrels which act as heat sinks. The steep slope helps to keep the snow off it. Your passive solar./walipni combo is ideal.
If snow is a concern, the Chinese style greenhouse uses two plastic layers, with the insulated blanket in between.