Enjoyed that Bruce and glad to see that even the IAM have the odd white van wrangle....although disappointingly few compared to my neck of the woods! Difficult to argue against further training, a good rider is always learning! (and boy...do I have a lot to learn!!)....
Well done for having a go. I have been a member for 25 years and an observer for a while. I think the training is life saving and am always disappointed to hear the negativity surrounding it. Sure there are a few knobs but have found that most are great people and give their time as they are passionate about road safety, helping others and enjoying riding. I am sure you will enjoy the course and come out a better rider guaranteed. Keep an open mind and you will be surprised how your riding improves. Enjoy!
I was heavily sceptical about doing training with IAM. I didn't want to meet know it alls. My experience has been totally the opposite. Met a really nice group of people and the training has been fantastic. never to old to learn. amazing instructor.
Interesting hearing his advice on using brakes at start of video. I went on a Honda MAC course with an ex bike traffic cop 20 years ago and his advice was to slow down with gears and set up the speed before bend and squeeze power on through the bend. The course was 2 days around Central Scotland in stormy wet windy conditions and at the end I was leaning the bike as far over in the wet as most would in dry conditions. Best training I could have asked for with those conditions.
Dascally. Couldnt agree more. Brakes destabilise any vehicle. Examine any scientific effect on braking. Yes brake then settle then go, but why - use the gears its more secure and one operation not 3. The machine then needs to settle. Using gears Imo is better. I was an advanced rider and my instructor 40 yrs ago used to bollock me if he saw ny brakelights. The limit point is for people tha5 are struggling with bends not people that have no problem. Going slow into bends takes some of the thrill out for me. Imprefer to ride at a speed that i assess for the bend using the bikes torque to accelerate or decelerate. We are all different but hate the way IAM say its the only best way. Its not. The IAM rarely fail any subscriber if any tha5 i have known. Their attitude was why i left my club the reflectiv3 jacket pseudo cops. Dont take this the wrong way i watch all yourvids and you loook,ore comfortable before instruction
Thanks for the syncing camera trick by the way. I'm really looking forward to getting on to my IAM as soon as I've got my licence. And luckily, one of my best mates is an IAM instructor.
I completed the IAM motorcycle course a good while back, a bet originally but worthwhile. The trick is to try and find an Observer you gell with, they all give their time for next to nothing but a few I found were completely up them selves.. the first time I was out it almost put me off, the guy at the end of the "observed " ride started asking me questions about road signs, "which road sign will you always be able to distinguish even if it's covered in snow"? He was riding a white Pan Euro with all the just legal you would think he was police stickers and gear. I was riding a Buell. I found a fantastic Observer/ tutor after a couple of attendances and passed in just over three months. I won the bet. Still friends with the gent who mentored me. My test route was Inveraray to Tyndrum, enough said. Keep at it, I found the police road craft book helpful, you probably know it back to front. Main point enjoy it, my point with gelling with the Observer. A good tip for observation if the Observer is following you get him to randomly, (where safe) put on his indicators, you copy to acknowledge. Good luck
I was a paramedic, before I started that job I thought I could drive, how wrong was I. Road craft is an amazing book it’s the basis of all emergency and advanced driving as shown in this video. I went on to advance my skills as a rapid response driver and Motor cyclist.
This popped up in my Recommended. Nice to see the IAM Advanced Rider Course getting lots of positive comments (I'm a National Observer). I've got a few demo rides with commentary, both from the riders perspective and viewed from behind, on my channel. I've also some videos explaining/demonstrating some of the techniques involved. Good luck with the course/test.
I think its great that youve done these films Bruce, youre obviuosly already a very good and quick rider (Picos gorges spring to mind) but it just goes to show, regardless of how good you are theres always something to learn.
Hi Big Man great video. I joined IAM a few weeks ago just as a trial and for someone to ride with. I really wasn't sure if it would be for me especially when I turned up and lots of guys dressed like old bill but I found a decent observer who explained things simply and didn't slaughter my riding straight away. I'm finding it interesting and also a challenge. I'm not a fast rider but I'm really struggling with speed limits so you'll need to be aware as you're 100 mph everywhere 😆😆 Seriously I hope you enjoy your course, I think the most difficult part is having the time to dedicate to it as we all have work and other things to get in the way. Maybe we can have an advanced ride out some time. All the best JJ 👍
i've done two of the thruxton skills days. absolutely quality day on the bike! a gentle reminder that the everyone in the IAM (me included) aren't the slow little dodders that everyone thinks! top work bruce!
Excellent vid, Bruce. Much thanks to Stuart Haythorn and the IAM team for allowing you to make it possible. I love this area for its riding roads and have seen a few I'd like to take my mate along. Beers and Whisky, too. That first stretch from Loomies was well slow for me and my group, too. LOL! Ride Safe, Bruce. See you soon I'm sure.
Hey Bruce, that was excellent....I know those roads like the back of my hand...every twist and turn (and pothole!) is imprinted on my mind, yet I still feel I learnt something from watching your ride with Stuart . Cheers, Steve
Thanks Bruce. Very glad to see you doing the IAM, I have done a taster with my local and the guys and girls are the best. This lot know what they are talking about, yes they ride to the law but I bet they get the job done much more efficiently than anyone else. Thanks for your time, great stuff Loving it.
You never stop learning and the explanation about limit point on left hander bends is something I'd never thought about. Certainly makes very good sense...... simples ;-)
Stuart Haythorn is a great ambassador to IAM road smart and certainly knows his stuff.Be great to see TMF, Richy Vida and Lamb Chops out with Stuart, that would be great viewing. Believe me IAM ain't about Hi Viz, it will improve your riding. Cheers.
Cracking Vid again Bruce. Here in Mid Wales the biggest trouble I have is cars and lorries cutting corners and where this course will benefit me is the positioning for corners and the wider slower entry now makes sense. Thanks for sharing Bruce.
Great instruction . Fantastic program. Wish I had something like that near me in Ocala Florida. Love the diagrams . Your instructor could do a channel instructing . Would b great. Learned a lot . Thanks Bruce for all the effort u put into these videos for us .
@@boxfullofneutral8514 Haha just a bit bud. 1 of those who want a meal that you have but don't want to pay for it so keep trying to nick some of yours lol
I’ve got my course in May and am looking forward to it. Nice to get an insight into what’s coming. Like you I have past police experience, however I retired in 2016 and hung up my police driving when I got promoted and went into custody. Keep up the good work and great vid.
Great video. I’m taking these tips on board as I too use that engine braking into some bends ahead of or instead of perhaps a gentle settle on the brakes first. Will be a bit more self-disciplined in today’s ride & talk myself around a few bends. Cheers Bruce.
I’ve just passed my IAM driving exam with a F1RST, and I’ve always wanted to learn to ride. Now that I’ve done the advanced driving, I will be certain to do the advanced riding as well, and this video certainly gave an interesting insight into the system for motorcyclists.
I learned a lot of great pointers for proper techniques cornering thru the twisties. Makes good sense to approach a bit slower, in proper lane position to then throttle sooner for a smother run. Well done Gents.
Some good information there Teapotone and your reputation survived intact, thanks for helping to inform. I could keep that bloke busy for a week and he would need a lot more paper for the feedback!
I did my advanced driving and riding through Roadar 3 years ago I passed both with a silver. I didn’t sound the horn on a blind bend on the car or it would’ve been a gold. Didn’t do enough commentary on the bike or it would’ve been a gold. I do get the advanced driving and I can see how it can improve somebody’s riding/driving through building confidence etc. But for me I just felt like it was slowing me down and I wasn’t flowing like I normally would. I always stick to the 30’s and 40’s national speed limit anything goes 😜✊🏻✊🏻 great vid Bruce as always.
finally subscribed...been watching your Toro tour with TMF and Richy's VLOGS...this is a great video I have thought of doing this , and the roads your did this on are on my patch so have done all of these so good to see you blasting through them....great work
Brilliant again mate,my advanced was the best thing I ever done I took mine even further and enjoy my riding more than ever.stick with it you’ll be glad you did,take care mate 👍
Great video Bruce good to see your making progress and excellent valid points made especially during the discussion regarding techniques on dealing with corners. Looking forward to more.Keep the wheels down and the head up, ride safe.
Great video. I'm waiting here on Cape Cod for motorcycle weather to arrive. We're starting to warm up and hope to be out on the bike next week These are great tune-up videos to get prepared for safe motorcycling, no matter how much experience we have. Thanks for sharing, Larry
Great couple of videos, great course, I wish we had them here in Denmark, we have courses on race tracks, doing different things, but that kind of one on one stuff does not get any better.
Great stuff, as always! Had to smile with with the audio sync! (I go for the horn option, but yours is so much more simple and less annoying to passersby!) - very envious of your man cave...my garage pales in comparison to yours! Life goals! Haha! Ride safe!
Great training video. The over take advice at 23mins+ was great. What IAM group have you joined? I have just recently joined WVAM and the seems a sound lot. Word of warning - check your insurance doing the skills days. My Bennetts insurance would not cover me for a full control course at Dunsfold. Many would just go along and forget most insurance companies do not provide cover for running in circuits - regardless if racing or safety training.
Great to see you taking your motorcycling to the next level. I Did my RoSPA a couple of years ago and so glad I did make such a difference to my riding. Hoping to do my IAM this year if I can get it fitted in before my RoSPA retest. Keep up the good work. Ride Safe
Enjoyed that bit of additional tuition and cornering action. Its always going to be that bit easier for Stuart as he knows the road but i suppose thats the point of the additonal skills, like in ERT driving, being able to anticipate and read the road layout etc. Cheers mate
@@krytenLister I agree however local knowledge can also assist to a more progressive and safe ride/ drive. Not just for road layout but also for knowledge of other frequent road users in that area ie horses, tractors, HGVs. All of which i agree you should be anticipating but knowledge based on previous experience is not irrelevant infact you could agrue its invaluable
@@highlandriders9696 I understand what you mean about local knowledge and it can be helpful in determining potential unseen hazards. However you should always be looking for the clues of these potential extra hazards as part of your riding plan and adjusting it to match. Personally my riding is no different whether I am on my local roads or somewhere in Europe, because I am continually adapting my riding plan to suit that moment in time.
You’ve made some good progress! Nice to see your enjoying the IAM process, your observer seems excellent, good advice and seems approachable. I hope your going to get yourself to test standard in time :)
Thanks Bruce awesome couple of vids, I'm actually at the same point as you in my advanced licence, I'm waiting to get a course sorted near me. I'm going to look into the rider skills day though sounds really good
Fantastic and informative video Bruce. The video(s) really show what the IAM rides are about and what to expect. I'm booked on for a Skillsday at Mallory later in the year. I also want to do the IAM Masters course at some point in the future.
Nice one Bruce, I think the theory sounds very complicated, but once you put it into practice it all makes sense, I must do another course at some time 👍😉
sorry old vid I know, I'm on mad catch up mode ! just to say really enjoyed it Bruce, and having done the I.A.M. coarse, you're never too old to learn ! despite my being a very experienced driver and biker, there's something in there to learn for everyone to keep us all safe, it's not all nerds and polo shirts !.. take care out there folks !! oh and Bruce, how did you get on when you got to test ?
LOL very different from just leaving it in a mid gear and using point and squirt. Good to see IAM hasn't changed since I last looked at it 30 years ago, sound advice doesn't age. Over positioning on left hander on single track- magic advice.
Had to laugh about TMF and white van thing ..he is a magnet for them ..found this vlog interesting.might do this course myself ..well presented Bruce ..
I learned a lot about positioning and cornering watching the other geezer doing the full IAM course. You touched on the brakes vs gears topic early on. The IAM doesn't seem to favour engine braking too much, which is a bit alien to me. I always feel more comfortable being in a gear where I can react instantly if needed. Looking forward to the Thruxton video. No such thing as track days where I am and I'd love to be able to do one.
@@teapotone I took a different message from what Stuart said. I thought he meant that if you will need a lower gear for the bend then set the speed with the brakes before selecting the correct gear. ie Don't go down through the box to scrub speed off. If you're already in the correct gear for the bend, engine braking is fine. I think that's what they taught me at Hendon in 1984. However, my memory isn't what it used........?
Hi I've been a driver and rider for forty years, including as a police driver and, for the last twenty years, a driving instructor. Nevertheless, I have enrolled on the IAM course and am really looking forward to finding out what I don't know... never too old to learn. I would be interested to know what you think I might get from the course before I start it. Thanks in advance if you can find the time to reply. Regards Richard.
Hi Richard, What level police driver where you bud? If you’re a Class 1 advanced then I doubt there’s really much you’ll learn tbh, but I’d assume you’ll be offered a tutor position fairly quickly providing everything is all good with your skills. Although what the IAM and RoSPA teach is all based on Roadcraft, personally I feel that police drivers/riders are trained to operate at far higher speeds and stress levels than is expected for normal public driving/riding. Let me know how you find it bud, I wish you the very best 👍
Years ago, and I do mean years possibly 15-20?, Superbike Magazine ("Sonic" John Cantile) did a article on a advanced course at the Nurburgring with what I believe was the Honda owners club?. It was obviously more race inspired but from memory the concept was the same. I wonder if it is something that still happens?, I would I love to do an advanced riding course there. Regards
Don’t know if anyone on here did the STEP riding scheme at secondary school, but the Police Roadcraft handbook was required reading. Shame that they can’t bring back something similar these days. Guess school kids and teenagers aren’t interested in bikes anymore. I always say to myself right bend stay left and left bend stay right. Riding defensively takes some getting used to, but after a while it becomes second nature.
An unfair question, perhaps - as it should be directed at your observer rather than you. But I'll ask anyway. 12:15 - the observer crosses markings (I assume to minimise the amount of steering input and to therefore increase smoothness). Blend the bends, as they say. I thought this was not part of IAM advice and guidance and that (other considerations not withstanding) the protocol is to remain within the lane prescribed by the paint. Has this changed? Was it never part of standard A&G in the first place, and more a case of something that varies by regional / local IAM group level? My understanding was that the 'house style' at IAM is basically to not cross markings in the way covered above, but that at ROSPA the preference is to use the whole of the road. Is there more consensus between the two bodies now? Sorry - that's a lot of questions.
Hi Bobby, To be honest I have absolutely no idea. I’ve never prescribed to the ‘stay within the lane’ theory, I’ll always use the entire road wherever it gives me a better view of what’s coming ahead and it’s safe to do so. 👍
Thanks for the reply. Because this is still fresh in my noggin I decided to google "IAM off-siding" and found the following page. It's interesting and informative in equal measure and it boils down to being a slap head. You'll get what I mean if you read it to the end. ; - ) www.iamroadsmart.com/media-and-policy/news-and-insights/advice-and-insights/2017/04/24/the-offside-rule
He was straightening the bends there - Off Siding is something different and as I understand it either not taught or actively discouraged now by the IAM & Ropsa because of the potentially serious consequences. It is something I was taught and still do, when safe and appropriate.
Very nice and useful videos as I'm looking into doing IAM myself too. However, I've noticed that both of you often ride around 50-60 mph on 3rd gear. Is there any reason for that? On my bike I'd probably be on 5th gear to reduce the fuel consumption and noise. Either way, keep those videos coming :) Thanks
I do it as it’s the most responsive gear to be in if I’m looking for overtakes or want maximum engine braking etc - but everyone’s riding style and bike is different.
@@teapotone replying 6 months later to your comment as I am already 2 observed rides into my IAM training. My observers pointed that I am occasionally doing some ''comfort braking'' in the bends and this is caused by going into them too quickly. As I mentioned before, I'd normally be on 5th gear on 50-60mph bends, but they suggested dropping the gear down. I now agree with you that being in lower gear, in my case on 4th on nationals allows for better engine braking. Even if I go into the bend a bit too quick or the bend is suddenly tightening, closing the throttle helps with slowing it down. It proves the point that watching RUclips videos helps a lot, but it's best to go out and practice. The only regret I have is that I haven't started IAM earlier :)
Hi I am confused I have just passed my bike test and my brother just done his advanced. I was told always use the gears ie engine braking for the corners or to slow or get the bike into the position you require. I am confused has I was told never brake going into a bend I was told ease off the accelerator and come down a gear until you can see the road opening up again. Please can you clarify this has not got a bike yet has I am currently over seas working away and looking at down my advance when I get back.
Enjoyed that Bruce and glad to see that even the IAM have the odd white van wrangle....although disappointingly few compared to my neck of the woods! Difficult to argue against further training, a good rider is always learning! (and boy...do I have a lot to learn!!)....
Cheers TMF 👍
Does this mean we are going to see you doing the IAM course :-)
The advisor seems like a real genuine nice guy. That's the kind of person that is worth listening to. Well done.
Both videos Part 1 and 2 were very useful and I've learnt stacks... Just got to put it into practice..
Nice one Simon, glad they’ve been of some use 👍
Well done for having a go. I have been a member for 25 years and an observer for a while. I think the training is life saving and am always disappointed to hear the negativity surrounding it. Sure there are a few knobs but have found that most are great people and give their time as they are passionate about road safety, helping others and enjoying riding. I am sure you will enjoy the course and come out a better rider guaranteed. Keep an open mind and you will be surprised how your riding improves. Enjoy!
I was heavily sceptical about doing training with IAM. I didn't want to meet know it alls. My experience has been totally the opposite. Met a really nice group of people and the training has been fantastic. never to old to learn. amazing instructor.
Awesome Gareth, great to hear you’ve had a good experience with your local
group 👍
And now my ride got brighter thanks fellas. Stay safe
Interesting hearing his advice on using brakes at start of video. I went on a Honda MAC course with an ex bike traffic cop 20 years ago and his advice was to slow down with gears and set up the speed before bend and squeeze power on through the bend. The course was 2 days around Central Scotland in stormy wet windy conditions and at the end I was leaning the bike as far over in the wet as most would in dry conditions. Best training I could have asked for with those conditions.
Dascally. Couldnt agree more. Brakes destabilise any vehicle. Examine any scientific effect on braking. Yes brake then settle then go, but why - use the gears its more secure and one operation not 3. The machine then needs to settle. Using gears Imo is better. I was an advanced rider and my instructor 40 yrs ago used to bollock me if he saw ny brakelights. The limit point is for people tha5 are struggling with bends not people that have no problem. Going slow into bends takes some of the thrill out for me. Imprefer to ride at a speed that i assess for the bend using the bikes torque to accelerate or decelerate. We are all different but hate the way IAM say its the only best way. Its not. The IAM rarely fail any subscriber if any tha5 i have known. Their attitude was why i left my club the reflectiv3 jacket pseudo cops.
Dont take this the wrong way i watch all yourvids and you loook,ore comfortable before instruction
Thanks for the syncing camera trick by the way. I'm really looking forward to getting on to my IAM as soon as I've got my licence. And luckily, one of my best mates is an IAM instructor.
Nice one, can’t do you any harm getting some additional training in - you take from it whatever you like 👍
I completed the IAM motorcycle course a good while back, a bet originally but worthwhile.
The trick is to try and find an Observer you gell with, they all give their time for next to nothing but a few I found were completely up them selves.. the first time I was out it almost put me off, the guy at the end of the "observed " ride started asking me questions about road signs, "which road sign will you always be able to distinguish even if it's covered in snow"? He was riding a white Pan Euro with all the just legal you would think he was police stickers and gear. I was riding a Buell.
I found a fantastic Observer/ tutor after a couple of attendances and passed in just over three months.
I won the bet.
Still friends with the gent who mentored me. My test route was Inveraray to Tyndrum, enough said. Keep at it, I found the police road craft book helpful, you probably know it back to front.
Main point enjoy it, my point with gelling with the Observer. A good tip for observation if the Observer is following you get him to randomly, (where safe) put on his indicators, you copy to acknowledge.
Good luck
I was a paramedic, before I started that job I thought I could drive, how wrong was I. Road craft is an amazing book it’s the basis of all emergency and advanced driving as shown in this video. I went on to advance my skills as a rapid response driver and Motor cyclist.
This popped up in my Recommended. Nice to see the IAM Advanced Rider Course getting lots of positive comments (I'm a National Observer). I've got a few demo rides with commentary, both from the riders perspective and viewed from behind, on my channel. I've also some videos explaining/demonstrating some of the techniques involved. Good luck with the course/test.
I think its great that youve done these films Bruce, youre obviuosly already a very good and quick rider (Picos gorges spring to mind) but it just goes to show, regardless of how good you are theres always something to learn.
Thanks Hartley, and yep there’s always more to learn and ways to improve 👍
The instructor is one smooth dude on a bike 👍👍👍👍👍
....and the funniest thing is the bloke on the bar stool behind Stuart in the closing pub sequence. Classic! Top job TeapotOne.
Hi Big Man great video. I joined IAM a few weeks ago just as a trial and for someone to ride with. I really wasn't sure if it would be for me especially when I turned up and lots of guys dressed like old bill but I found a decent observer who explained things simply and didn't slaughter my riding straight away.
I'm finding it interesting and also a challenge. I'm not a fast rider but I'm really struggling with speed limits so you'll need to be aware as you're 100 mph everywhere 😆😆 Seriously I hope you enjoy your course, I think the most difficult part is having the time to dedicate to it as we all have work and other things to get in the way. Maybe we can have an advanced ride out some time.
All the best JJ 👍
Very interesting indeed, quite funny to watch as know most of those roads. Great vid Bruce 👍
Cheers Chops 👍
Enjoyed your video. I am about to start the IAM course myself and hope I get an Observer as good as yours...Tony F.
Thoroughly enjoyed these Bruce! And even better to see you on my local roads! Hope to hear you thunder by sometime
Cheers Alex 👍
We don’t really have this type of training in South Africa, so this was great to watch. Fortunately I think I’m doing most of it, at least I hope so.
I passed the IAM test in December but still found this footage fascinating. Keep them coming TP1. 👍🏻
i've done two of the thruxton skills days. absolutely quality day on the bike! a gentle reminder that the everyone in the IAM (me included) aren't the slow little dodders that everyone thinks! top work bruce!
Excellent vid, Bruce. Much thanks to Stuart Haythorn and the IAM team for allowing you to make it possible. I love this area for its riding roads and have seen a few I'd like to take my mate along. Beers and Whisky, too. That first stretch from Loomies was well slow for me and my group, too. LOL! Ride Safe, Bruce. See you soon I'm sure.
Hey Bruce, that was excellent....I know those roads like the back of my hand...every twist and turn (and pothole!) is imprinted on my mind, yet I still feel I learnt something from watching your ride with Stuart . Cheers, Steve
Thanks Bruce.
Very glad to see you doing the IAM, I have done a taster with my local and the guys and girls are the best.
This lot know what they are talking about, yes they ride to the law but I bet they get the job done much more efficiently than anyone else.
Thanks for your time, great stuff Loving it.
You never stop learning and the explanation about limit point on left hander bends is something I'd never thought about. Certainly makes very good sense...... simples ;-)
Cheers Neil 👍
Stuart Haythorn is a great ambassador to IAM road smart and certainly knows his stuff.Be great to see TMF, Richy Vida and Lamb Chops out with Stuart, that would be great viewing. Believe me IAM ain't about Hi Viz, it will improve your riding. Cheers.
Nice one Bruce so glad your filming these sessions its given me the push I needed think I'm gonna sign up for a course...congrats on the 25k too
Cheers Tony, glad its of some use for you 👍
Nice one mate. I’m being tested Saturday so this was a very useful watch 👍
Cracking Vid again Bruce. Here in Mid Wales the biggest trouble I have is cars and lorries cutting corners and where this course will benefit me is the positioning for corners and the wider slower entry now makes sense. Thanks for sharing Bruce.
Nice one Paul, glad they’ve been of some use to you 👍
Great instruction . Fantastic program. Wish I had something like that near me in Ocala Florida. Love the diagrams . Your instructor could do a channel instructing . Would b great. Learned a lot . Thanks Bruce for all the effort u put into these videos for us .
Very informative vid Bruce, And the bloke behind you both at the end got some free tips as well even though his face didn't think so lol
gary walker proper nosey twat isn’t he.
@@boxfullofneutral8514 Haha just a bit bud. 1 of those who want a meal that you have but don't want to pay for it so keep trying to nick some of yours lol
I’ve got my course in May and am looking forward to it. Nice to get an insight into what’s coming. Like you I have past police experience, however I retired in 2016 and hung up my police driving when I got promoted and went into custody. Keep up the good work and great vid.
Nice one Mark, cheers 👍
Great video. I’m taking these tips on board as I too use that engine braking into some bends ahead of or instead of perhaps a gentle settle on the brakes first. Will be a bit more self-disciplined in today’s ride & talk myself around a few bends. Cheers Bruce.
I’ve just passed my IAM driving exam with a F1RST, and I’ve always wanted to learn to ride. Now that I’ve done the advanced driving, I will be certain to do the advanced riding as well, and this video certainly gave an interesting insight into the system for motorcyclists.
I learned a lot of great pointers for proper techniques cornering thru the twisties. Makes good sense to approach a bit slower, in proper lane position to then throttle sooner for a smother run. Well done Gents.
Some good information there Teapotone and your reputation survived intact, thanks for helping to inform. I could keep that bloke busy for a week and he would need a lot more paper for the feedback!
Great little series that, mate. Looks like a well worth-while course. Stuart came across cool as a cucumber as well 👍🏻
Cheers Smokey, aye he’s a good lad eh 👍
I'm about to start on my own IAM journey and watching this has helped me feel less anxious and more excited. Thank you.
That was an eye opener. Really useful course, would love to take part in something similar. We should never stop learning! Good job 👍
Find your local group at iamroadsmart.com 👍🏻
Rodney Rayner thanks, but am not living in the UK. There are similar things all over tho.
Just starting on my bike journey after car driving for many years. Love all your videos. Thanks!
Thanks Sue, welcome to the biking family 😉👍
Great insight in to what goes on Bruce I keep telling myself to do it 👍👍
I did my advanced driving and riding through Roadar 3 years ago I passed both with a silver. I didn’t sound the horn on a blind bend on the car or it would’ve been a gold. Didn’t do enough commentary on the bike or it would’ve been a gold. I do get the advanced driving and I can see how it can improve somebody’s riding/driving through building confidence etc. But for me I just felt like it was slowing me down and I wasn’t flowing like I normally would. I always stick to the 30’s and 40’s national speed limit anything goes 😜✊🏻✊🏻 great vid Bruce as always.
finally subscribed...been watching your Toro tour with TMF and Richy's VLOGS...this is a great video I have thought of doing this , and the roads your did this on are on my patch so have done all of these so good to see you blasting through them....great work
Cheers Simon,
Welcome to the channel bud 👍
Brilliant again mate,my advanced was the best thing I ever done I took mine even further and enjoy my riding more than ever.stick with it you’ll be glad you did,take care mate 👍
That was brilliant Bruce , really enjoyed that
Cheers Craig 👍
Great video Bruce good to see your making progress and excellent valid points made especially during the discussion regarding techniques on dealing with corners. Looking forward to more.Keep the wheels down and the head up, ride safe.
Cheers Andi 👍
Great video. I'm waiting here on Cape Cod for motorcycle weather to arrive. We're starting to warm up and hope to be out on the bike next week
These are great tune-up videos to get prepared for safe motorcycling, no matter how much experience we have. Thanks for sharing, Larry
Cheers Larry 👍
Thank you oh hairy faced one,thoroughly enjoyed that.
Great couple of videos, great course, I wish we had them here in Denmark, we have courses on race tracks, doing different things, but that kind of one on one stuff does not get any better.
Thanks Paul, yep these courses are fantastic ways to improve your skills for sure 👍
I wish there was something like this in the USA, been poking around the interwebs and still no joy. Great videos sir!
Peace!
Great video Bruce
Thanks Mike, glad you enjoyed it bud
Good informative video Bruce but after doing so well, you then go and overtake on a pedestrian crossing...
Great video mate and the last comment about getting out there is so true. You Sir are an inspiration. 😉
Thanks Neil 👍
Advanced bike courses were the best thing I ever did, absolute hoot.
Keep it Upright! 👍🏻🏍😁
Great stuff, as always! Had to smile with with the audio sync! (I go for the horn option, but yours is so much more simple and less annoying to passersby!) - very envious of your man cave...my garage pales in comparison to yours! Life goals! Haha! Ride safe!
Cheers 😉👍
Great insight into the course Bruce just created account with my local IAM group gonna try get it done as soon as I have the time 👍
Awesome Matty, hope you enjoy it bud 👍
Thank Bruce - another entertaining video - I've no dubt al of us have picked up some good stuff on riding better from these vid's. Ride safe mate. S.
Cheers bud, that’s great to hear. Glad it’s proving of some use 👍
Excellent couple of video's, I've picked up lots of tips there. Cheers..!
Great training video. The over take advice at 23mins+ was great.
What IAM group have you joined? I have just recently joined WVAM and the seems a sound lot.
Word of warning - check your insurance doing the skills days. My Bennetts insurance would not cover me for a full control course at Dunsfold. Many would just go along and forget most insurance companies do not provide cover for running in circuits - regardless if racing or safety training.
Another excellent vlog. I hope this helps to dispel some unfounded myths about the IAM.
Great to see you taking your motorcycling to the next level. I Did my RoSPA a couple of years ago and so glad I did make such a difference to my riding. Hoping to do my IAM this year if I can get it fitted in before my RoSPA retest. Keep up the good work. Ride Safe
teapotone comes to Petersfield, Hampshire :P nice vid
i live in Petersfield, we have some great windy roads around here
Hats off to you mate, I always go to pieces under observation but I’d love to do something like this.
Great Vlog, I'm will be taking a look at IAM now
Very informative TP. Nice to be talked through it.🍻
Great vlog Bruce, I have the same issue late setting myself up for bends glad to see I am not the only one . Great series learning a lot. 👍
Excellent content as always !
That was really good. I’ve signed up to do IAM course as well so looking forward to that. Best regards
Cheers Trevor 👍
Another good vid Brucey boy, setting you up nicely for your future training 😉
Great stuff! Love the UK riding community.
#support
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Enjoyed that bit of additional tuition and cornering action. Its always going to be that bit easier for Stuart as he knows the road but i suppose thats the point of the additonal skills, like in ERT driving, being able to anticipate and read the road layout etc. Cheers mate
Reading the road is exactly what it's about - knowing the road or not is irrelevant.
@@krytenLister I agree however local knowledge can also assist to a more progressive and safe ride/ drive. Not just for road layout but also for knowledge of other frequent road users in that area ie horses, tractors, HGVs. All of which i agree you should be anticipating but knowledge based on previous experience is not irrelevant infact you could agrue its invaluable
@@highlandriders9696 I understand what you mean about local knowledge and it can be helpful in determining potential unseen hazards. However you should always be looking for the clues of these potential extra hazards as part of your riding plan and adjusting it to match. Personally my riding is no different whether I am on my local roads or somewhere in Europe, because I am continually adapting my riding plan to suit that moment in time.
@@krytenLister Aye i agree with you. Everything comes together to make for a better ride. Stay safe out there.
You’ve made some good progress! Nice to see your enjoying the IAM process, your observer seems excellent, good advice and seems approachable. I hope your going to get yourself to test standard in time :)
Thanks Bruce awesome couple of vids, I'm actually at the same point as you in my advanced licence, I'm waiting to get a course sorted near me. I'm going to look into the rider skills day though sounds really good
Cheers Ged,
The rider skills days are fantastic fun, I’m at Thurxton around August I think 👍
Fantastic and informative video Bruce. The video(s) really show what the IAM rides are about and what to expect. I'm booked on for a Skillsday at Mallory later in the year. I also want to do the IAM Masters course at some point in the future.
I learned a lot from that, particularly overtaking. Really informative and a great video.
Nice one Bruce, I think the theory sounds very complicated, but once you put it into practice it all makes sense, I must do another course at some time 👍😉
sorry old vid I know, I'm on mad catch up mode ! just to say really enjoyed it Bruce, and having done the I.A.M. coarse, you're never too old to learn ! despite my being a very experienced driver and biker, there's something in there to learn for everyone to keep us all safe, it's not all nerds and polo shirts !.. take care out there folks !! oh and Bruce, how did you get on when you got to test ?
I’m automatically qualified as I’m a trained police biker and driver 👍
LOL very different from just leaving it in a mid gear and using point and squirt. Good to see IAM hasn't changed since I last looked at it 30 years ago, sound advice doesn't age. Over positioning on left hander on single track- magic advice.
Love it, very good rider information, thanks for sharing 👍🏽
Great video definitely going to look into it
Great vid! He makes it look so easy!!!
Very encouraging, thanks teapotone.
Well done big man 👍
Thanks Steve
Great Vid, keep up the good work. 👍👍
Thanks Bush 👍
Had to laugh about TMF and white van thing ..he is a magnet for them ..found this vlog interesting.might do this course myself ..well presented Bruce ..
I learned a lot about positioning and cornering watching the other geezer doing the full IAM course. You touched on the brakes vs gears topic early on. The IAM doesn't seem to favour engine braking too much, which is a bit alien to me. I always feel more comfortable being in a gear where I can react instantly if needed. Looking forward to the Thruxton video. No such thing as track days where I am and I'd love to be able to do one.
Cheers Ian, aye I’ve always used engine braking too, normally hardly ever brake unless coming to a stop so it’s taking a lot of getting used to. 👍
@@teapotone I took a different message from what Stuart said. I thought he meant that if you will need a lower gear for the bend then set the speed with the brakes before selecting the correct gear. ie Don't go down through the box to scrub speed off. If you're already in the correct gear for the bend, engine braking is fine. I think that's what they taught me at Hendon in 1984. However, my memory isn't what it used........?
@@paulstredwick That's correct
I'm doing an IAM "Skills Day" at Mallory Park, should be fun.
Good vid, have to say he explained the left hand limit point very well.
What camera was he using? Seems clearer than yours Bruce
He was using a Drift Ghost-S same as me, but mine is well battered now 👍
Nice riding Bruce i have signed up with my local I.A.M. Group just waiting for my observer to contact me then hope to start .
Hi
I've been a driver and rider for forty years, including as a police driver and, for the last twenty years, a driving instructor. Nevertheless, I have enrolled on the IAM course and am really looking forward to finding out what I don't know... never too old to learn.
I would be interested to know what you think I might get from the course before I start it.
Thanks in advance if you can find the time to reply.
Regards Richard.
Hi Richard,
What level police driver where you bud? If you’re a Class 1 advanced then I doubt there’s really much you’ll learn tbh, but I’d assume you’ll be offered a tutor position fairly quickly providing everything is all good with your skills.
Although what the IAM and RoSPA teach is all based on Roadcraft, personally I feel that police drivers/riders are trained to operate at far higher speeds and stress levels than is expected for normal public driving/riding.
Let me know how you find it bud, I wish you the very best 👍
Thanks for the reply. It wasn't class1 and it was years ago. I'm still hoping to learn though, if only for peace of mind to keep skills up to date.
Great video; really informative....Thanks!!
I’m really enjoying this series Mr Teapot, will there be more?
Hi Carl, yep hopefully. I’ll be starting the full course soon, just trying to find time with work. I’ll vlog the whole course though 👍
Years ago, and I do mean years possibly 15-20?, Superbike Magazine ("Sonic" John Cantile) did a article on a advanced course at the Nurburgring with what I believe was the Honda owners club?. It was obviously more race inspired but from memory the concept was the same. I wonder if it is something that still happens?, I would I love to do an advanced riding course there. Regards
👍👍🇨🇦. Great vids, picked up a number of tips.
Great stuff 👍👍
Don’t know if anyone on here did the STEP riding scheme at secondary school, but the Police Roadcraft handbook was required reading. Shame that they can’t bring back something similar these days. Guess school kids and teenagers aren’t interested in bikes anymore. I always say to myself right bend stay left and left bend stay right. Riding defensively takes some getting used to, but after a while it becomes second nature.
An unfair question, perhaps - as it should be directed at your observer rather than you. But I'll ask anyway. 12:15 - the observer crosses markings (I assume to minimise the amount of steering input and to therefore increase smoothness). Blend the bends, as they say. I thought this was not part of IAM advice and guidance and that (other considerations not withstanding) the protocol is to remain within the lane prescribed by the paint. Has this changed? Was it never part of standard A&G in the first place, and more a case of something that varies by regional / local IAM group level? My understanding was that the 'house style' at IAM is basically to not cross markings in the way covered above, but that at ROSPA the preference is to use the whole of the road. Is there more consensus between the two bodies now? Sorry - that's a lot of questions.
Hi Bobby,
To be honest I have absolutely no idea. I’ve never prescribed to the ‘stay within the lane’ theory, I’ll always use the entire road wherever it gives me a better view of what’s coming ahead and it’s safe to do so. 👍
Thanks for the reply. Because this is still fresh in my noggin I decided to google "IAM off-siding" and found the following page. It's interesting and informative in equal measure and it boils down to being a slap head. You'll get what I mean if you read it to the end. ; - )
www.iamroadsmart.com/media-and-policy/news-and-insights/advice-and-insights/2017/04/24/the-offside-rule
He was straightening the bends there - Off Siding is something different and as I understand it either not taught or actively discouraged now by the IAM & Ropsa because of the potentially serious consequences. It is something I was taught and still do, when safe and appropriate.
Have you read the link I posted?
Very nice and useful videos as I'm looking into doing IAM myself too. However, I've noticed that both of you often ride around 50-60 mph on 3rd gear. Is there any reason for that? On my bike I'd probably be on 5th gear to reduce the fuel consumption and noise. Either way, keep those videos coming :) Thanks
I do it as it’s the most responsive gear to be in if I’m looking for overtakes or want maximum engine braking etc - but everyone’s riding style and bike is different.
@@teapotone replying 6 months later to your comment as I am already 2 observed rides into my IAM training. My observers pointed that I am occasionally doing some ''comfort braking'' in the bends and this is caused by going into them too quickly. As I mentioned before, I'd normally be on 5th gear on 50-60mph bends, but they suggested dropping the gear down. I now agree with you that being in lower gear, in my case on 4th on nationals allows for better engine braking. Even if I go into the bend a bit too quick or the bend is suddenly tightening, closing the throttle helps with slowing it down.
It proves the point that watching RUclips videos helps a lot, but it's best to go out and practice. The only regret I have is that I haven't started IAM earlier :)
Looks like Stuart has a better camera than you were using. Not that yours is bad, just that his was clearer. What was he using?
Exactly the same as me - Drift Ghost-S, except mine is about 4yrs old and was always on my lid.
Hi I am confused I have just passed my bike test and my brother just done his advanced. I was told always use the gears ie engine braking for the corners or to slow or get the bike into the position you require. I am confused has I was told never brake going into a bend I was told ease off the accelerator and come down a gear until you can see the road opening up again. Please can you clarify this has not got a bike yet has I am currently over seas working away and looking at down my advance when I get back.
Braking into a corner, known as trail braking, is an advanced technique so I would just learn to slow BEFORE a bend first, either by gears or brakes 👍