OMG the comment about Asrock codes is spot on. I look at them and say WTF????????????? What is this description saying??? They need an English speaker who knows what the board is doing to redo these descriptions. There's plenty of codes so it COULD be helpful. I had to use them in doing an X470 build and I had to go watch videos from people who have done builds with the boards and gave insight to the basic failures, like memory issues which is the common failures when getting a system running with the better timings.
Thanks for the review, I enjoyed watching it. I opted for the B550 Tomahawk for my 5800X CPU build as it is an ATX and has a few more slots to play with. All my previous MBs have been ASUS (to include a B550 TUF for a 5900X CPU build a few months ago), but your review of the MSI Mortar swayed me to try an MSI MB for a change. We'll see how that works out!
The last comment made about overbuilding VRMs and saying you don't need it. Correct you don't need it until you want to OC a 5950X. Then you do. The other thing is they run cooler. If you're near the limit of your power handling capability your components are running hot, so having an over-engineered VRM means a cooler VRM, and IMO it's hard for me to say that's over-engineered considering that heat is also right by the CPU and needs to get dissipated. For some VRMs you almost need a fan that blows down on them to remove the heat, so having VRMs that don't get hot is better IMO.
Hmm, yeah, could be interesting, but quite hard to control! I don't have access to climate controlled rooms, and you'd need a very closely controlled environemnt to get meaningful numbers. I think case and fan arrangement will have more impact than GPU position, since you want your GPU in the top (fastest) PCIe slot in 99% of situations.
@@BuildPicker I was thinking more like difference between B550M PRO-VDH and Gigabyte B550 Elite, both upper faster slots :) For example InWin case i have three bottom intakes, but what happens when you don't have that option in a classic case. Thanks for answering :D
Thank you! Was deciding between the budget msi and tuf board and this video cleared up a lot of things for me. I'll be going with the msi board because it's cons don't seem to bother me.
Please be aware that almost all B550 motherboards that have type-C front panel headers are NOT Gen2 (10Gbps) but are in fact Gen1 (5Gbps), whereas the front type-C ports on cases are almost always Gen2; for example the Corsair 4000D, even though that is a relatively cheap case. I think in this video you mentioned a Gen2 header on the MSI boards but those are definitely Gen1.
MAG B550M MORTAR WIFI USB 3.2 PORTS (FRONT) 1(Gen 1, Type C), 2(Gen 1, Type A) USB 3.2 PORTS (REAR) 1(Gen 2, Type C), 1(Gen 2, Type A), 2(Gen 1, Type A)
Nice review but i dont think that the "have just 2 m2 slot" is a negative on the ROG motherboard. The other mATX motherboard have the 2nd M2 slot under the primary graphic card and I dont think have a so big thermosyphon on a so delicate device is a good thing. I would say that mATX motherboards should have as a negative that the second M2 slot is under the motherboard, and as a positive of the other two that the slot is free from impediments of any kind (they can have heat sinks even 10 cm high) and they do not suffer from an oven.
I know b550 are old news, but I bought the b550m pro vdh, and wasn't sure if I needed a bios update to run the 5000 series, so I bought on aliexpress a ryzen 5 3600 for 70$ instead and will update down the line for a r7 5800x3D or 5700x3D when they'll be cheaper. Ill already have the bios updated, since the r5 3600 is still fairly powerful. I can't wait to build it.
For gaming, not a fan of B550 with 3 NVMe drives. The sacrifice is other components and to make that sacrifice you only get gen3. Two years ago people would have said it's a great deal, but with gen5 drives about to come out that are going to run speeds that you need gen 4 for, AND DirectStorage is becoming a thing and is going to start showing up in games even THIS year, gen3 is too much of a sacrifice. I know Microsoft has downgraded it's min. spec for DirectStorage but still, the faster the drives the better it will perform to a degree. It still depends on how much data the game needs to stream but this is going to increase. So, gen 3 NVMe is not good, and on top of that many cheap board only have 2 PCIe lanes for those NVMe off the chipset, so now it's TERRIBLE for the drives about to come out. These drives are going to be pushing the limit of gen4 X4, and the option you have for plugging them in to the NVMe ports off the chipset is gen3 X2??? Ugghhhh. The only comment made in this video I don't agree with is the $200 mark for upper acceptable limit for B550. Once again, Ugghhh. There are too many sacrifices. A pig will never be a Black Angus Cow. Just for the fact that you have at least 2 PCIe gen4 X4 NVMe ports is well worth making the jump up to a low $200 X570 MB. And I'm really talking about gaming here. So a B550 over $170 is just too much even WITH Wi-fi. The MSI X570 Tomahawk is $220 and the X570S is $230, which I just got. It has a great layout for those who don't want a 2nd GPU. It only has one slot for the CPU lanes and then a full X16 length slot that's PCIe gen4 X4 and that works great for many add on cards. I would have got the MSI Tomahawk into this roundup even though MSI would have been heavily represented. Great layout for the board, nice features on the back with both Type A and C USB3.2gen2 ports. But B550 is dead if you need even TWO NVMe drives and games are growing in package size and 2TB NVMe are insane in pricing, so these low cost options are very limiting. I guess you could keep older games on SATA SSDs and that would help. I tell ya though for people who don't want 2 GPUs but need another PCIe slot, the MSI X570S Tomahawk is pretty darn good, and for those wanting 3 NVMe drives the MSI MPG X570S Edge MAX WiFi is another great board and both in the low $200s USD now, at least in the US. That puts them more expensive than these boards, but not by much and for what you gain, it's worth the cost.
There's something wrong at ASRock! How could the design team not think about BIOS flashback for the Velocita! Am Very disappointed 😔. All reviewers are saying the same thing! I wanted to go ASRock, but there's no way am spending extra shipping money or looking for a 3000 series CPU. We don't even have 2000 series here in Uganda!
But if I want pcie 4.0 for the graphics card and all m.2 slots. Id have to jump up to a 570 im assuming. Most of these boards borrow some of the pcie lanes from the graphics card to run the m.2. So you really arnt getting true pcie 4.0. Wouldnt matter to most people. But if im paying for it. I want it.
Hello I have the ROG strix motherboard and it’s looks great but I would never buy this again. As you say no front typeC and the WIFI is sharing with the second m2 slot, so you doesn’t have full gen3 speed on it. That’s sucks. It’s a high end looking and listening( really good sound) board with low end connectivity.
I know it has been a year already but... Anyone bought the the latest iterations/rev. of the MSI MAG B550M Mortar (Non-Wifi)? Is it 5000 series ready out of the box? or Do you needed to flash the Bios to make 5000 series chips to work? I'm interested a B550M Mortar (non Wifi) version too.
What type (Size and Type like Micro ATX etc.) for putting in Dell Vostro 220 chassis (Case)? want to use a 19 GB RAM and compatible processor with Win. 11. ???? HELP !!!😇
None. You likely need a new case. Most prebuilt systems from the likes of Dell have custom components (the motherboard has a different shape, the power supply unit has different connectors that aren't compatible with standard motherboards).
Hi, its stated that the CPU upIink for any B550 is pcie 3 where as the X570 is pcie 4. I have : Ryzen 9 5900x + RX 6800XT and scoring other parts. Should I go for B550? (This CPU uplink of pcie 3 on B550 has put me in doubts to opt for it) Will be using only 1 GPU + 1 nvme M2 SSD for pcie 4. Kindly recommend what will be the effect of cpu uplink of pcie 3 over pcie4 (on X570) Thanks
The B550 Tomahawk never really inspired. It's fine, but seemed expensive for the specification, and only has 5 USB A ports on the rear IO. The ROG B550-F is likely more expensive and has a few more USB-A but still only 2 m.2 slots.
@@shawnbrown3435 Yeah, they're not in any way alike, just confusingly similar names. Both are kind of the 'mainstream' budget motherbaord offereings, one for intel CPUS, the other for AMD CPUs. That's it.
I got the MSI B550m Mag mortar non WiFi version for 150SGD(110USD) secondhand, IS A STEAL! It works perfectly fine, the type c rear just nice with my custom keyboard so the limited usb is not a huge problem
@@HillsSeesYou i realize that you got it second hand. Meaning the person that previously own it must have flash the Bios already. Thank you. At least I know it is compatible. Not experiencing any trouble?
@@HillsSeesYou OH. So they do release B550M Mortar (Non Wifi) with new iteration / rev. with 5000 series chips ready out of the box. Good to know for my planned All out Black Build. Thank you so much
Pretty much any of these boards will run that fine! Just check BIOS information: If you get older stock you may have to update the BIOS to get it running.
Sorry you feel that way. There are other places you can get vrm temperature information, we try and test a wider range of features so people can get a feel for what a motherboard is actually like to set up and live with.
Fantastically and clearly explained information. Thank you for this very highly quality and informative video.
Great roundup, that's the info we need... and well presented too! Good work
Glad you liked it. Let us know if there's anyhting else you'd like to see!
An extremely good video! Really informative, My first time watching you! Keep up the great work!
OMG the comment about Asrock codes is spot on. I look at them and say WTF????????????? What is this description saying??? They need an English speaker who knows what the board is doing to redo these descriptions. There's plenty of codes so it COULD be helpful. I had to use them in doing an X470 build and I had to go watch videos from people who have done builds with the boards and gave insight to the basic failures, like memory issues which is the common failures when getting a system running with the better timings.
Thanks for the review, I enjoyed watching it. I opted for the B550 Tomahawk for my 5800X CPU build as it is an ATX and has a few more slots to play with. All my previous MBs have been ASUS (to include a B550 TUF for a 5900X CPU build a few months ago), but your review of the MSI Mortar swayed me to try an MSI MB for a change. We'll see how that works out!
The last comment made about overbuilding VRMs and saying you don't need it. Correct you don't need it until you want to OC a 5950X. Then you do.
The other thing is they run cooler. If you're near the limit of your power handling capability your components are running hot, so having an over-engineered VRM means a cooler VRM, and IMO it's hard for me to say that's over-engineered considering that heat is also right by the CPU and needs to get dissipated. For some VRMs you almost need a fan that blows down on them to remove the heat, so having VRMs that don't get hot is better IMO.
It would be great to test gpu temperature depending on the placement of the PCI express position. Liked & Subscribed :D
Hmm, yeah, could be interesting, but quite hard to control! I don't have access to climate controlled rooms, and you'd need a very closely controlled environemnt to get meaningful numbers. I think case and fan arrangement will have more impact than GPU position, since you want your GPU in the top (fastest) PCIe slot in 99% of situations.
@@BuildPicker I was thinking more like difference between B550M PRO-VDH and Gigabyte B550 Elite, both upper faster slots :) For example InWin case i have three bottom intakes, but what happens when you don't have that option in a classic case. Thanks for answering :D
your stuff is clean well done
Amazing video! This was very detailed and very helpful.
Thank you! Was deciding between the budget msi and tuf board and this video cleared up a lot of things for me. I'll be going with the msi board because it's cons don't seem to bother me.
very well explained, thanks so much!!
Please be aware that almost all B550 motherboards that have type-C front panel headers are NOT Gen2 (10Gbps) but are in fact Gen1 (5Gbps), whereas the front type-C ports on cases are almost always Gen2; for example the Corsair 4000D, even though that is a relatively cheap case. I think in this video you mentioned a Gen2 header on the MSI boards but those are definitely Gen1.
MAG B550M MORTAR WIFI
USB 3.2 PORTS (FRONT) 1(Gen 1, Type C), 2(Gen 1, Type A)
USB 3.2 PORTS (REAR) 1(Gen 2, Type C), 1(Gen 2, Type A), 2(Gen 1, Type A)
Awesomely informative vid, thanks!!!!
Nice review but i dont think that the "have just 2 m2 slot" is a negative on the ROG motherboard. The other mATX motherboard have the 2nd M2 slot under the primary graphic card and I dont think have a so big thermosyphon on a so delicate device is a good thing. I would say that mATX motherboards should have as a negative that the second M2 slot is under the motherboard, and as a positive of the other two that the slot is free from impediments of any kind (they can have heat sinks even 10 cm high) and they do not suffer from an oven.
Nice video, thanks!
Nice detailed Video 🔱 Loved it
I have B550M-PLUS but without wi fi. Cable is better to use anyways faster internet better ping. Or i can just buy wifi usb
I have a B450 Tuf Gaming plus with a 3700x. Maybe add a sound card like the ASUS Xonar to enhance the audio? What do you think of B550 MSI Gaming?
The kind of video I never knew I needed. Simply awesome
Glad we could help!
it will be nice if you make a section on your website where one selects processor you recommend best mobos
I know b550 are old news, but I bought the b550m pro vdh, and wasn't sure if I needed a bios update to run the 5000 series, so I bought on aliexpress a ryzen 5 3600 for 70$ instead and will update down the line for a r7 5800x3D or 5700x3D when they'll be cheaper. Ill already have the bios updated, since the r5 3600 is still fairly powerful. I can't wait to build it.
Doesnt it has bios flashback button ? You can update your bios without the cpu with it
@@farhsa_ it does, but some people dont know or want to do it incase of messing up the process
Thanks for the video.
For gaming, not a fan of B550 with 3 NVMe drives. The sacrifice is other components and to make that sacrifice you only get gen3. Two years ago people would have said it's a great deal, but with gen5 drives about to come out that are going to run speeds that you need gen 4 for, AND DirectStorage is becoming a thing and is going to start showing up in games even THIS year, gen3 is too much of a sacrifice. I know Microsoft has downgraded it's min. spec for DirectStorage but still, the faster the drives the better it will perform to a degree. It still depends on how much data the game needs to stream but this is going to increase. So, gen 3 NVMe is not good, and on top of that many cheap board only have 2 PCIe lanes for those NVMe off the chipset, so now it's TERRIBLE for the drives about to come out. These drives are going to be pushing the limit of gen4 X4, and the option you have for plugging them in to the NVMe ports off the chipset is gen3 X2??? Ugghhhh.
The only comment made in this video I don't agree with is the $200 mark for upper acceptable limit for B550. Once again, Ugghhh. There are too many sacrifices. A pig will never be a Black Angus Cow. Just for the fact that you have at least 2 PCIe gen4 X4 NVMe ports is well worth making the jump up to a low $200 X570 MB. And I'm really talking about gaming here. So a B550 over $170 is just too much even WITH Wi-fi. The MSI X570 Tomahawk is $220 and the X570S is $230, which I just got. It has a great layout for those who don't want a 2nd GPU. It only has one slot for the CPU lanes and then a full X16 length slot that's PCIe gen4 X4 and that works great for many add on cards.
I would have got the MSI Tomahawk into this roundup even though MSI would have been heavily represented. Great layout for the board, nice features on the back with both Type A and C USB3.2gen2 ports.
But B550 is dead if you need even TWO NVMe drives and games are growing in package size and 2TB NVMe are insane in pricing, so these low cost options are very limiting. I guess you could keep older games on SATA SSDs and that would help.
I tell ya though for people who don't want 2 GPUs but need another PCIe slot, the MSI X570S Tomahawk is pretty darn good, and for those wanting 3 NVMe drives the MSI MPG X570S Edge MAX WiFi is another great board and both in the low $200s USD now, at least in the US. That puts them more expensive than these boards, but not by much and for what you gain, it's worth the cost.
The ASUS TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS WiFi have one more version which is WiFi ii, what is the difference between them?
I'm surprised you didn't test the MSI B550 Unify
great review! But why is the Steel Legend not included? I think it can compete at least with the low entry MoBos
There's something wrong at ASRock!
How could the design team not think about BIOS flashback for the Velocita!
Am Very disappointed 😔. All reviewers are saying the same thing!
I wanted to go ASRock, but there's no way am spending extra shipping money or looking for a 3000 series CPU. We don't even have 2000 series here in Uganda!
Yeah, we were amazed too. It's a big omission.
But if I want pcie 4.0 for the graphics card and all m.2 slots. Id have to jump up to a 570 im assuming. Most of these boards borrow some of the pcie lanes from the graphics card to run the m.2. So you really arnt getting true pcie 4.0. Wouldnt matter to most people. But if im paying for it. I want it.
it would be great if you could add vrm temperarmture data
I got a vdh pro max non wifi kinda vrm 76c
5900x performs really well with the asus b550 f gaming wifi
How do you not mention the Strix-F LAN problems? Major problems with the Intel Lan
Our version, purchased 3 months ago now, has the V3 I225V chip on it, and exhibits no issues. You're righ,t it's something to check out though.
i was about to get the strix because of its audio. which MB would you recommend?
on the MSI side wouldn't the best be the MEG B550 UNIFY?
Hello I have the ROG strix motherboard and it’s looks great but I would never buy this again. As you say no front typeC and the WIFI is sharing with the second m2 slot, so you doesn’t have full gen3 speed on it. That’s sucks. It’s a high end looking and listening( really good sound) board with low end connectivity.
What else would you recommend?
Difference between the tuf Gaming b550 m-e ?
I know it has been a year already but...
Anyone bought the the latest iterations/rev. of the MSI MAG B550M Mortar (Non-Wifi)? Is it 5000 series ready out of the box? or Do you needed to flash the Bios to make 5000 series chips to work? I'm interested a B550M Mortar (non Wifi) version too.
What type (Size and Type like Micro ATX etc.) for putting in Dell Vostro 220 chassis (Case)? want to use a 19 GB RAM and compatible processor with Win. 11. ???? HELP !!!😇
None. You likely need a new case. Most prebuilt systems from the likes of Dell have custom components (the motherboard has a different shape, the power supply unit has different connectors that aren't compatible with standard motherboards).
Hi, its stated that the CPU upIink for any B550 is pcie 3 where as the X570 is pcie 4.
I have : Ryzen 9 5900x + RX 6800XT and scoring other parts. Should I go for B550? (This CPU uplink of pcie 3 on B550 has put me in doubts to opt for it)
Will be using only 1 GPU + 1 nvme M2 SSD for pcie 4.
Kindly recommend what will be the effect of cpu uplink of pcie 3 over pcie4 (on X570)
Thanks
It just allows additional pcie 4 devices via the chipset. GPU and primary SSD are connected direct to the CPU so are unaffected on B550.
@@BuildPicker thanks brother for the info & prompt reply.
Should I Pair the b550 pro vdh one with RYZEN 7 5700G or buy the expensive Tuf gaming one? Plz answer
the B550 Pro VDH will run that CPU fine, and so long as you're sure it meets your needs for I/O options, M.2 storage etc, then you're good.
I'm thinking about the 5700x with the VDH. Very capable chip set, very under looked.
What about Msi tomahawk? Im thinking between that and Asus F gaming.
The B550 Tomahawk never really inspired. It's fine, but seemed expensive for the specification, and only has 5 USB A ports on the rear IO. The ROG B550-F is likely more expensive and has a few more USB-A but still only 2 m.2 slots.
Why are people recommending the ASUS B560M board over the B560 Plus board ? Is the included Wifi the only reason?
Which specific ASUS baords are you talking about? The TUF, or Prime range?
Just out of curiosity what does the b560 have anything to do with b550? The b560 is intel and the b550 is amd.
@@shawnbrown3435 Yeah, they're not in any way alike, just confusingly similar names. Both are kind of the 'mainstream' budget motherbaord offereings, one for intel CPUS, the other for AMD CPUs. That's it.
Is the MSI PRO B550-A-PRO good pick for 3700x,5600x,5800x I have 3700x currently thinking of upgrading too either 5600x,5800x
Yes, it's also a great motherboard. Great VRM. It will take 5800x without problems .
@@nickpetriashvili2863 what about its audio?
Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro AC ?
I got the MSI B550m Mag mortar non WiFi version for 150SGD(110USD) secondhand, IS A STEAL! It works perfectly fine, the type c rear just nice with my custom keyboard so the limited usb is not a huge problem
Mind if I ask, Is it 5000 series ready out of the box? or You needed to flash the Bios. I'm interested a B550M Mortar (non Wifi) version too.
@@raffyluvmiharu It is ready for me
@@HillsSeesYou i realize that you got it second hand. Meaning the person that previously own it must have flash the Bios already. Thank you. At least I know it is compatible.
Not experiencing any trouble?
@@raffyluvmiharu I mean the box has a sticker saying ryzen 5000 series ready. And nope no problem
@@HillsSeesYou OH. So they do release B550M Mortar (Non Wifi) with new iteration / rev. with 5000 series chips ready out of the box. Good to know for my planned All out Black Build. Thank you so much
Which b550 mother board i should buy asus tuf gaming or asus prime
Or
Aorus
It's between the TUF gaming or Aorus for me. Primes are a little low on IO options.
what about the 5700g that's what i got
Pretty much any of these boards will run that fine! Just check BIOS information: If you get older stock you may have to update the BIOS to get it running.
A Brit doing this review but posts links to Amazon U.S and uses Dollars...
my b550 aorus elite just died last week soooooooooooooo... meh for me. lol
The mATX version?
the full version@@momensaber1189
put heat on it and test the VRM temps before doing something as pointless as "Motherboard benchmarking"
There are useless tests and no the most and only important one: chip and vrm temperature test🤦♂️
Sorry you feel that way. There are other places you can get vrm temperature information, we try and test a wider range of features so people can get a feel for what a motherboard is actually like to set up and live with.