29:48 Howard: "If someone offered you hundreds of thousands of dollars to break up with me and go join someone else, would you do it? Hundreds of thousands of dollars" Dabbling John: "No." Leno: "Hold my beer."
Lol I was thinking the same thing lol... they offered join 500k a year i think it was.... they should of replayed this clip that day he was leaving Howard lol... it would of been golden
To be fair, John was speaking about another radio show, being on late night TV hosting the tonight show is in another orbit. Even Howard has said John had to take that deal.
@@johnfranklin8319 True, so would I, anybody would. That's a boatload of money. Just saying at that time John had no idea he would one day be hosting the tonight show.
Hey relax… he’s still just dabbling to identify his true talent! Everybody else seems to have figured it out already, but one day he’ll learn to embrace the doltard within himself.
Has anyone ever listened to his album , I’m gonna try it at work tomorrow. I can imagine him now lumbering to his mailbox every month to retrieve the 5 cents in royalties he might still be getting off of it.
@@dalmatia1 Not a chance, Howard rewards loyalty and Howard Stern still on the air, Jay's been off the air since 2014- if John stayed on Howard that's going on 10 years of paychecks that he would be getting- that definitely would make up for the short term boost he got from Tonight Show
@@earthsucks9555 are you kidding? Ronnie was the biggest user in the world with those block parties that were hitched onto Howard's rear end more than anything anyone ever did...
@@cultfilmfreakreviews is that using Howard somehow? The people who attended knew Howard wasn’t there. They wanted to see a shit show that Howard would discuss the next Monday. If anything the Block party gave Howard tons of material. Just my opinion. What does it say when your funniest contributor isn’t a comedian or writer? Its a retired limo driver
Every connection that Ronnie has is because of his relationship with Howard. In his defense , so is everyone else that works on the show and receives fringe benefits from it. It’s just that for Ronnie to call someone else a user when he does the same exact thing is the ultimate irony. IMO
How glorious that when John was with Howard - Howard refused to write the liner notes for John's album or be in the video. Two things the record company was counting on, and are the entire reason they gave him a deal. Then when John was with Leno - Leno refused to be involved in John's movie in any way, then refused to write the foreword to John's book. Once again, the only reason John got the book and movie was the money people assumed Leno would do stuff for it. Nothing's better than John's plans being destroyed.
@@psfanboy79 Yes that's true, I was thinking more of the making of the movie. John fully expected Leno to cut him a fat check. Yet another disappointment for the slobbering mongo.
John put up his own cash along wih some mafia types for a movie called one, too many that he wrote and STARRED in and it bombed hard. He even paid to have National Lampoon put heir name on it. John played a guy in a relationship with two hot women.@@cdwieneke7722
Why do you and people like you have this opinion? All SJs and grillos(borderline slow) that came and went were talentless and CHOSE to participate being the butt of a joke on the show thinking it would lead to fame. So in essence, both parties knowingly used each other.
Time has proved just how smart Howard was/is. No matter what you say now, in 94 to preserve your brand for scarcity not even imagining the future decades of continues growth esp. the future contracts $$$$$$ he proved it.
On a different show Howard asked John "didn't I get a bunch of record company guys to give your music a listen and to give you a break?" John said yes.
Mutually beneficial for the record label because of Stern's mentions, but massively beneficial to John for having everything given to him without even having talent. He's always had everything given to him on a silver platter. He hasn't made much of anything from all the breaks he's been given and on top, he's an ingrate to everyone who's ever helped him.
@@Music-qt3ok It wasn’t bad, it was worse than bad. It was forgettable. Sounded like he was trying to be Alice In Chains, Soundgarden, and Candlebox all at the same time, and ended up sounding like boring dredge with no soul. There were a few bands like that but at least they made it on their own, instead of riding off of Howard’s coattails.
@@freeecountryy you must not know much about hard rock music. John's music is pretty great and also respected in the industry. He was held back and gooved on because he was stuck with the image of being a joke on Sterns show. If the music was released and no one knew it was john from stern it could have been massive
Hey if you are looking for help doing some job and you want it done poorly and unfinished he is definitely the guy to call. Except for burning bridges he is a master at that.
“And I know the day will come you will look back and say that Howard was a skunk… I did it all myself” How true and accurate… only that John didn’t make it but still. He even took the hundred thousands
Howard didn’t have to do one thing for that album, the one and only reason SJ got that record deal was because he was on the Howard Stern Show, period.
Listening to this old clip, one question comes to mind: How did years of living in Los Angeles make John's New York accent THICKER? Here his accent is fairly mild, but you listen to him now, and he sounds like Dice half the time.
Because John is the biggest poser you'll ever see. I would not be surprised if his stutter was fake. I've heard more than a couple interviews that made me question if his stutter was real.
John asking Howard to do all that shit for him literally proved Howard's point about John only getting that record deal for airtime on the show lol. Absolutely nothing to do with his "talent".
John is the apitamy of being at the right time and place. To be on Srern show in the 90s it didn't matter how mediocre u were. Like Jackie's comedy and Fred's band.
Had Stern not surrounded himself in such mediocrity, you could almost have all the makings of an interesting "The Howard Stern curse" documentation, alas it's only obvious why no one goes on to any post-Show success. If I'm not mistaken, Scott Einziger might be the only one who made anything of himself.
I can't see the comment that replied to me, but I wanna reply to them about what an idiot I am for forgetting about Billy West lol. I'd say Richie Wilson did about as good for himself as maybe Scott Depace or Doug Goodstein (all went to RevoltTV), which just means they were able to find stable work, so it's hard to classify that as "success" in the terms which I've not-yet-established: achieving both a higher status in entertainment while having a name no longer attached to "The Howard Stern Show". As far as Stuttering John, the key term here is "for awhile". Here's a curveball: Artie almost evaded this ostensibly-named "Stern curse" by getting the gig on Crashing, but then he, in fact, crashed and promptly burned (no pun intended) shortly thereafter.
John's lies always escalate the more he gets away with them. He started out as "a writer" on that roast. Then it became "the HEAD writer". Last I heard he actually claimed he was "the ONLY writer".
This segment was quite telling for the future for John. We find out John and Jah Leno have the same publicist. Stern prophetically predicts John will leave him in a second for 100k.
"If someone offered you hundreds of thousands of dollars to break up with me, hundreds of thousands a year, to go somewhere else, would you do it?" "No" That aged well lmao he bailed literally the SECOND he was offered that
@@nicolethain it was such a flop. The Record company just gave the thousands of cds they produced to John. And he had to set up a 1-800 phone line just to sell them. Plus he would sell them on every appearance he made.
"Ill talk my way out of it"!! Johns song actually made it into the movie "Airheads" . I was hoping Stern would have brought it up to brendan Frasier the other day, haha not.
So many people on the show mistook being used by the show for their being talented In his defense Howard and Robyn both had people write plugs for their books on the jackets. People write for record liners all the time, nothing wrong in asking. Of course people associate him with the show. No surprise there. Ronnie has the nerve to call John a user. LOL Go mooch off of Scores, Ronnie. 29:50 Omg! John did when he ran off to do Leno's show!
Howard always thought he did so much for his staff.. he made a ton of money and staff made nothing...and playing the record on air....wow...how generous! All the things that John wanted Howard to do was not a huge deal.. but No one on staff should never say NO to Howard on helping his career
Stuttering John is still living off of Howard’s scraps 30 years later. Hating Howard Stern has a cottage industry so he’s helping his haters as well. These compilations gets more views then Johns current anything.
The problem I still have with Howard, he pays them nothing. He uses their lives as content. When they get extra he gets pissed. He sees it as a measure of success, and doesn't want anyone else successful.
Howard was so generous ; giving unending plugs for John's offal CD--minutes and minutes adding up to.hours. Fred is capable of playing for most any band; never asked for promotion. So, John, You & Howie are even-steven in the favors dept. If you are a star, express yourself with never a mention of the show! Shine!
And he is just ask John if you would leave for thousands of dollars and he said no but of course he did as soon as Jay offered. What a scumbag, John trashes Howard on his pathetic podcast all the time. Dabblers UNITY!
John thinks howard held his record back because of his bad name in the industry... John refused to admit howard was the only reason he got the deal. He'd have been world famous with or without howard
Notice he doesn't stutter once. In this same time period, John appeared on Conan. When he talked to Conan John put on a heavy stutter. The worst I've ever heard him stutter. He's a corn-swaggler.
That band sucked. He only got a deal because of Stern Show. Howard was being nice enough promoting that garbage on his show knowing the music was awful. Of course it was never enough for John.
He tried everything to surpass popularity on the show to a comic, actor, and musician. It wasn't cuz of talent it's cuz he was on the show with easy access to plugs. As soon as anyone else paid him, he left. Now he's nowhere JD as more fame than him now lol
It's funny how Howard admitted on the show that John's music was being sabotaged by the radio stations once they found out it was John on the record. When they played his music anonymously they would play it in rotation once they found out it was John they wouldn't.
I love how Howard says his agent told him “absolutely not, you’re not doing it” which is a total lie. Howard has set up the good guy/bad guy thing with Tom Chiusano and I’m sure he had it with Don Buckwald also. It’s all BS. I wouldn’t have done anything for it either, but it was funny.
Howard’s show stinks today but anyone that says he isn’t brilliant and talented is nuts. First he took a bunch of zeros like SJ and made them entertaining. Second he knew SJ would sell him out eventually.
21:43 He lays on that fake stutter so thick it's amazing that Howard didn't take him to task for that. I suppose that would be too far a peak behind the curtain.
I wish someone could find and put together in chronological order, when John got his record deal and then the aftermath. It was pretty hilarious. He pretty much was walking around, believing he finally made it and was gonna be the next big rock star. Howard kept asking him about the record, and John kept bragging about his great songs. But Howard kept reminding him he only got the record deal because of Howard, and the record company was dumb for putting money into it. Anyway, indeed the company was spending a lot of money on stuttering John. Putting him on MTV and playing his video, plus doing gigs opening for some rock bands. It all peeked when MTV and Atlantic Records threw him a huge release party and had movie stars and rock stars coming to the party. John was at this point an insufferable prick, thinking he was a huge star... even though the record hadn't come out yet.. Anyway, it all came crashing down in a hilarious way when they sent John to a record store to do a signing on the day the album came out. And only less than 20 people showed up to the signing. Grillo and Gange, who were with him, rushed the next morning to tell Howard how bad it went. So, anyway, obviously, the record was a huge flop. Sold less than 1,000 units on its first week, and Atlantic Records immediately shut down John's second album and gave him all the cds that didn't sell. Which John had to rent a storage unit just to put them there and he created a 1-800 number so he could sell his crappy cd there plus he would also try to sell them when he was doing gigs...
29:48
Howard: "If someone offered you hundreds of thousands of dollars to break up with me and go join someone else, would you do it? Hundreds of thousands of dollars"
Dabbling John: "No."
Leno: "Hold my beer."
Lol I was thinking the same thing lol... they offered join 500k a year i think it was.... they should of replayed this clip that day he was leaving Howard lol... it would of been golden
To be fair, John was speaking about another radio show, being on late night TV hosting the tonight show is in another orbit. Even Howard has said John had to take that deal.
@@johnk5825 “To be fair”?…..SJ would have taken any deal, working anywhere, doing anything, for hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.
@@johnfranklin8319 True, so would I, anybody would. That's a boatload of money. Just saying at that time John had no idea he would one day be hosting the tonight show.
@@johnk5825 you think he’s hosting it lol the point is he said he wouldn’t do it and then did it.
Podcasting, comedy, music, writing a novel!
He’s a jack-of-all-dabbles.
And he wrote for Kareem Abdul whatever roast
@@thomasleblanc9024 he’s never mentioned it!
Ahhhahaa exactly
Hey relax… he’s still just dabbling to identify his true talent! Everybody else seems to have figured it out already, but one day he’ll learn to embrace the doltard within himself.
Luckiest man in the world, an unpaid intern who made Howard laugh because he stuttered.
Has anyone ever listened to his album , I’m gonna try it at work tomorrow. I can imagine him now lumbering to his mailbox every month to retrieve the 5 cents in royalties he might still be getting off of it.
I assume you were escorted by security from your job and now work for the Shuli network
@@bigmoose99shuli left a gaping hole for you moose
Stuttering John was the luckiest guy ever and totally screwed everything up
He did well for himself on The Tonight Show, of course now it's all gone
He got a huge paycheck from Leno - made way more than if he stayed w Howard
@@dalmatia1 Not a chance, Howard rewards loyalty and Howard Stern still on the air, Jay's been off the air since 2014- if John stayed on Howard that's going on 10 years of paychecks that he would be getting- that definitely would make up for the short term boost he got from Tonight Show
@@quiksix25 John lived in a multi million dollar home in LA because of Leno. Stern is.... well we know what howerid is. Look at JDs life. Rewarded?
not as lucky as Gary
Ronnie the Limo driver calling someone else a user is priceless 😂😂
How is Ronnie a user?
Not trying to argue with you, I’m genuinely curious.
Scores?
That’s what I’m guessing is scores and the block party.
@@earthsucks9555 are you kidding? Ronnie was the biggest user in the world with those block parties that were hitched onto Howard's rear end more than anything anyone ever did...
@@cultfilmfreakreviews is that using Howard somehow?
The people who attended knew Howard wasn’t there. They wanted to see a shit show that Howard would discuss the next Monday.
If anything the Block party gave Howard tons of material.
Just my opinion.
What does it say when your funniest contributor isn’t a comedian or writer?
Its a retired limo driver
Every connection that Ronnie has is because of his relationship with Howard. In his defense , so is everyone else that works on the show and receives fringe benefits from it. It’s just that for Ronnie to call someone else a user when he does the same exact thing is the ultimate irony. IMO
John looks like such a clichéd tryhard in the thumbnail.
That's his whole life..
Looks like a Janis Joplin impersonator
Slush
He so thought it was Eddie vedder. Most of his songs are weak Alice in chains rip offs.
you can the music's shitiness through the thumbnail lol it's actually terrible
Todd!! You're a God!! Welcome back... WE SPEAK YOUR NAME!
I constantly listen to all of those hours of Jackie audio. Thank you!
Thank You!
How glorious that when John was with Howard - Howard refused to write the liner notes for John's album or be in the video. Two things the record company was counting on, and are the entire reason they gave him a deal. Then when John was with Leno - Leno refused to be involved in John's movie in any way, then refused to write the foreword to John's book. Once again, the only reason John got the book and movie was the money people assumed Leno would do stuff for it. Nothing's better than John's plans being destroyed.
John got a movie deal!?!?
I love watching John crash and burn
Leno had a little skit covering the opening of Johns movie.
@@psfanboy79 Yes that's true, I was thinking more of the making of the movie. John fully expected Leno to cut him a fat check. Yet another disappointment for the slobbering mongo.
John put up his own cash along wih some mafia types for a movie called one, too many that he wrote and STARRED in and it bombed hard. He even paid to have National Lampoon put heir name on it. John played a guy in a relationship with two hot women.@@cdwieneke7722
Welcome back man!!! Like a long lost friend you ain't seen in a while, you can't help but smile 😁🍻
We much
Mugs oops
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@@Jobberwockyc go tvcncmm by😊
I love how after all this shit, John's album 💣 bombed terribly
Howard loving every minute of it
Because Howard didn't appear in the video. 😂
Because John has no talent.
John’s life has had the same trajectory as that album
Keep up the '94 uploads.
The only reason why they gave him a deal was because of Howard they just wanted the free advertisement and the record still failed
Failed is a bit of an understatement.
@@TheTrouserPuppetsOfficialbut like Jackie's songs, it was #1 in the jukeboxes in Bayville
@@andrewgeraci8798cold gold baby!
Ha! That's the funniest line of bullshit and, considering Jackie's 'businesses', there's probably something dumber
Atlantic Records doesn't need advertising.
Howard never ceased being AMAZED by his own generosity while the back office talent could barely afford to eat. (Quite frankly.)
What back office "talent"?
Talent...lol.
Pat Cooper called them slaves
@@Music-qt3ok 😂
Why do you and people like you have this opinion? All SJs and grillos(borderline slow) that came and went were talentless and CHOSE to participate being the butt of a joke on the show thinking it would lead to fame. So in essence, both parties knowingly used each other.
Time has proved just how smart Howard was/is. No matter what you say now, in 94 to preserve your brand for scarcity not even imagining the future decades of continues growth esp. the future contracts $$$$$$ he proved it.
it sounds psychotic here but with hindsight i agree he was absolutely a genius for that
Todd Packer. Thanks for coming back.
Is this the OG Todd Packer? I thought his content went behind a paywall
@@PJxBuchwild Hmmm...I have no idea.
@@trentblume5998 Either way the uploads are great, it's important to keep this stuff alive
On a different show Howard asked John "didn't I get a bunch of record company guys to give your music a listen and to give you a break?" John said yes.
Mutually beneficial for the record label because of Stern's mentions, but massively beneficial to John for having everything given to him without even having talent. He's always had everything given to him on a silver platter. He hasn't made much of anything from all the breaks he's been given and on top, he's an ingrate to everyone who's ever helped him.
@@Kee2Oz the album wasn't bad.
@@Music-qt3ok It wasn’t bad, it was worse than bad. It was forgettable. Sounded like he was trying to be Alice In Chains, Soundgarden, and Candlebox all at the same time, and ended up sounding like boring dredge with no soul. There were a few bands like that but at least they made it on their own, instead of riding off of Howard’s coattails.
@@freeecountryy of course it's not going to be as good as those bands, but it had a few good songs on it.
@@freeecountryy you must not know much about hard rock music. John's music is pretty great and also respected in the industry. He was held back and gooved on because he was stuck with the image of being a joke on Sterns show. If the music was released and no one knew it was john from stern it could have been massive
who knew john dabbled in the music business
He dabbles in slot of things 😉 king of the dabblers
He’s a jack of all dabbles.
Hey if you are looking for help doing some job and you want it done poorly and unfinished he is definitely the guy to call. Except for burning bridges he is a master at that.
Beavis and Butthead knew.
That was the first time I heard of StutJo.
His greatest dabble may have been in art. He made a peace sign out of fake pieces of ammunition from every American war he knows of.
Can't do enough for a guy who won't do for himself
He was a call screener for 16 years and never progressed. He looked so goofy with long hair
He was just growing that for Howard
@@bigmoose99 he had long hair when he started. It was the style back then
30.00 Howard asks if he would leave Howard for hundreds of thousands of dollar per year, he said no. Jay Leno heard this and made the call😅
“And I know the day will come you will look back and say that Howard was a skunk… I did it all myself”
How true and accurate… only that John didn’t make it but still. He even took the hundred thousands
Howard didn’t have to do one thing for that album, the one and only reason SJ got that record deal was because he was on the Howard Stern Show, period.
"Howard mad at Gary" could be every video title.
Listening to this old clip, one question comes to mind:
How did years of living in Los Angeles make John's New York accent THICKER? Here his accent is fairly mild, but you listen to him now, and he sounds like Dice half the time.
Because John is the biggest poser you'll ever see. I would not be surprised if his stutter was fake. I've heard more than a couple interviews that made me question if his stutter was real.
He actually is a big Dice fan. I think that whenever he's threatening of badmouthing people he's sort of - subconscious - doing his Dice imitation.
Coors light is your answer
@@kiowahorse2561I think his stutter is fake actuality
@@kiowahorse2561 His stutter is fake. He doesn't stutter anymore.
From the very beginning, Howard figured out who John really is.
Then now and forever one of the biggest phonies in the business. USER !
John asking Howard to do all that shit for him literally proved Howard's point about John only getting that record deal for airtime on the show lol. Absolutely nothing to do with his "talent".
Howard lying right here saying John is a likeable guy.
11:48 oh yeah total classic, I think it’s still on the charts 30 years later.
29:49
21:43 for the best John Stutter of the video
31:43 is also a good one.
*DOO DOO EM DO WOP DOO DOO EM DO WOP*
FSJ
John is the apitamy of being at the right time and place. To be on Srern show in the 90s it didn't matter how mediocre u were. Like Jackie's comedy and Fred's band.
Had Stern not surrounded himself in such mediocrity, you could almost have all the makings of an interesting "The Howard Stern curse" documentation, alas it's only obvious why no one goes on to any post-Show success. If I'm not mistaken, Scott Einziger might be the only one who made anything of himself.
I can't see the comment that replied to me, but I wanna reply to them about what an idiot I am for forgetting about Billy West lol.
I'd say Richie Wilson did about as good for himself as maybe Scott Depace or Doug Goodstein (all went to RevoltTV), which just means they were able to find stable work, so it's hard to classify that as "success" in the terms which I've not-yet-established: achieving both a higher status in entertainment while having a name no longer attached to "The Howard Stern Show".
As far as Stuttering John, the key term here is "for awhile".
Here's a curveball: Artie almost evaded this ostensibly-named "Stern curse" by getting the gig on Crashing, but then he, in fact, crashed and promptly burned (no pun intended) shortly thereafter.
Epitome
Fred’s band really isn’t comparable. The average listener wasn’t even aware of Fred’s band.
John is the Forrest Gump of Radio/TV
Is this the same genius that was the head writer of the Kareem Abdul Jabbar roast?!
John's lies always escalate the more he gets away with them. He started out as "a writer" on that roast. Then it became "the HEAD writer". Last I heard he actually claimed he was "the ONLY writer".
John's video for the song I talked my way out of it was featured quite heavily on Headbangers ball. Probably due to all the cameos within it.
This segment was quite telling for the future for John. We find out John and Jah Leno have the same publicist. Stern prophetically predicts John will leave him in a second for 100k.
That would've been a 500% pay-rise for him in '94. Who wouldn't?
@ can’t blame him
30 years later, the album can be objectively described as "absolute shit".
This howard guy was really at the front lines of dabbling.
Dabblers Unity. Uncle Rico Show.
FSJ FKB T w O
"If someone offered you hundreds of thousands of dollars to break up with me, hundreds of thousands a year, to go somewhere else, would you do it?"
"No"
That aged well lmao he bailed literally the SECOND he was offered that
That's at 29:49
The foreshadowing is crazyyy. Howard asked John would he leave him if someone offered hundreds of thousands dollars to leave ,would he
Best part is the album tanked 😂😂
@@nicolethain it was such a flop. The Record company just gave the thousands of cds they produced to John. And he had to set up a 1-800 phone line just to sell them. Plus he would sell them on every appearance he made.
@@nicolethain actually he doesn’t. He says the same “joke”, every single time, it’s mentioned. “My album was so bad, it went tin”
@@nicolethain you're hot
How many records did he sell?
@@Onxy1976 zero, point zero.
I love these videos because they remind me on hating on John, what a user. Asshl!
"Ill talk my way out of it"!! Johns song actually made it into the movie "Airheads" . I was hoping Stern would have brought it up to brendan Frasier the other day, haha not.
Wasn't John in Airheads too?
Stern is still on?????
He had a line toward the end I'd always assumed was a cameo, being his obnoxious self screaming about being a masturbator.
He was also in Dude Where's my car.
@@readilium3432 yes he was he has a small spot.
Classic Stern and Robin preface before the classic piling on and ripping.
So many people on the show mistook being used by the show for their being talented
In his defense Howard and Robyn both had people write plugs for their books on the jackets. People write for record liners all the time, nothing wrong in asking. Of course people associate him with the show. No surprise there.
Ronnie has the nerve to call John a user. LOL Go mooch off of Scores, Ronnie.
29:50 Omg! John did when he ran off to do Leno's show!
Fast-forward to 2024 and John is divorced, broke and living with his Mother.
Todd Packer? The guy who had me covered with hundreds of hours of compilations back in
2012-2014??
Damn..@ 29:50..
Howard always loved stepping on the people he created!
Howard always thought he did so much for his staff.. he made a ton of money and staff made nothing...and playing the record on air....wow...how generous! All the things that John wanted Howard to do was not a huge deal.. but No one on staff should never say NO to Howard on helping his career
@@Onxy1976 how did John get a record deal with no talent and other things , give Howard his credit
Stuttering John is still living off of Howard’s scraps 30 years later. Hating Howard Stern has a cottage industry so he’s helping his haters as well. These compilations gets more views then Johns current anything.
@@Stonehopper1067HMG They both deserve to be clowned. They are both a joke.
Howard knew the fights is what everyone wanted so any reason to start one he would. Made him a multi millionaire.
Such a damn user
Stuttering John and the Flunkies would be a great band name.
Why tf did John think the Dollar Store Janis Joplin look was in in 94?
"He means well." Boy that aged like milk.
Now we know his stutter was fake it’s funnier to hear him stutter
The problem I still have with Howard, he pays them nothing. He uses their lives as content. When they get extra he gets pissed. He sees it as a measure of success, and doesn't want anyone else successful.
Howard was so generous ; giving unending plugs for John's offal CD--minutes and minutes adding up to.hours. Fred is capable of playing for most any band; never asked for promotion. So, John, You & Howie are even-steven in the favors dept. If you are a star, express yourself with never a mention of the show! Shine!
John was always a user. I'm so glad the gravy train dried up. He went pretty far for someone with no talent. Temporarily.
When robin speaks for Howard it makes me cringe😂 she was such a d rider
She is so untainted and annoying!
Someone made you a multi millionaire, you'd ride that dick too.
18:29 John Venmo’s his publicist, he then mails himself a check.
It actually would have been funny if the whole music video was just John trying to get Howard to be in the music video
And he is just ask John if you would leave for thousands of dollars and he said no but of course he did as soon as Jay offered. What a scumbag, John trashes Howard on his pathetic podcast all the time. Dabblers UNITY!
It’s truly sad and depressing to think of what a great show this used to be.
Yes. I treasure these old uploaded clips
John thinks howard held his record back because of his bad name in the industry... John refused to admit howard was the only reason he got the deal. He'd have been world famous with or without howard
Wrong even Howard admitted that happened to John at one point on the show.
@@kristalraya730John would never ever ever got a record deal without Howard.
That album was trash. Would John get the same deal while pumping gas in Massapequa and not working for Stern? Not a chance.
Howard and Robyn are my #1 favorite interracial relationship
NOPE!!!!!
Notice he doesn't stutter once. In this same time period, John appeared on Conan. When he talked to Conan John put on a heavy stutter. The worst I've ever heard him stutter. He's a corn-swaggler.
If he faked the stutter that’s actually the pinnacle of his career
Oh wow - @29:50 ....a very telling Question and Answer....Howard had spider sense of what was going on....
the glory days.
Would prefer video, but guessing its not available?
After all John did for him!😂😂😂😂
Gary is the biggest snake of them all
29:50
Lmaooo. This was foreshadowing
That pizzed off Howard to the core!
He didn't sleep for weeks
Why are all the Howard stern comment sections just people complaining about the people in the show lol
Probably the same ones who post on. Radio Gunt.
“…[John’s] a likable guy.”
So what happened with the whole record deal? How did it play out? Did rick rubin produce it like John was saying they were talking about. Lamo
Air date?
John always uses and goes behind people's backs
30:07 Howard asks SJ if he'd leave him for more money, very telling. Even then, Howard knew he was a user.
That band sucked. He only got a deal because of Stern Show. Howard was being nice enough promoting that garbage on his show knowing the music was awful. Of course it was never enough for John.
Atlantic records thought they were signing Stern when they signed John. Stut Jo would not have corrected that presumption!
Can you post any Magic Johnson/John Wayne Bobbitt content, please?
And John continues to burn every bridge and somehow can't figure out the common factor
He tried everything to surpass popularity on the show to a comic, actor, and musician. It wasn't cuz of talent it's cuz he was on the show with easy access to plugs. As soon as anyone else paid him, he left. Now he's nowhere JD as more fame than him now lol
It's funny how Howard admitted on the show that John's music was being sabotaged by the radio stations once they found out it was John on the record. When they played his music anonymously they would play it in rotation once they found out it was John they wouldn't.
If it was good, it wouldn't matter. It sucked. Howard was the ONLY reason John got a "deal".
The best part abouy Johns band was the name... MUND.
SJ really was a first class schnorrer. Howard was right.
29:50 Jay Leno??
29:48 turns out in fact he would not.
I love how Howard says his agent told him “absolutely not, you’re not doing it” which is a total lie. Howard has set up the good guy/bad guy thing with Tom Chiusano and I’m sure he had it with Don Buckwald also. It’s all BS.
I wouldn’t have done anything for it either, but it was funny.
Howard’s show stinks today but anyone that says he isn’t brilliant and talented is nuts. First he took a bunch of zeros like SJ and made them entertaining. Second he knew SJ would sell him out eventually.
@42:45 doesn’t want to be the bossman, but sure wants to get paid like one.
30:00 😂 ok pal
Howard: if someone offered you hundreds of thousands of dollars to break up with me would you do it? John: no. 😮 (44:49)
I caught that too lol. That is exactly what ended up happening
21:43 He lays on that fake stutter so thick it's amazing that Howard didn't take him to task for that. I suppose that would be too far a peak behind the curtain.
21:42
As much as I despise both of them, they did work well together
How can u run a store that's only open from 8am till 9pm...¿???¿??¿
I wish someone could find and put together in chronological order, when John got his record deal and then the aftermath. It was pretty hilarious.
He pretty much was walking around, believing he finally made it and was gonna be the next big rock star. Howard kept asking him about the record, and John kept bragging about his great songs. But Howard kept reminding him he only got the record deal because of Howard, and the record company was dumb for putting money into it.
Anyway, indeed the company was spending a lot of money on stuttering John. Putting him on MTV and playing his video, plus doing gigs opening for some rock bands.
It all peeked when MTV and Atlantic Records threw him a huge release party and had movie stars and rock stars coming to the party.
John was at this point an insufferable prick, thinking he was a huge star... even though the record hadn't come out yet..
Anyway, it all came crashing down in a hilarious way when they sent John to a record store to do a signing on the day the album came out. And only less than 20 people showed up to the signing.
Grillo and Gange, who were with him, rushed the next morning to tell Howard how bad it went.
So, anyway, obviously, the record was a huge flop. Sold less than 1,000 units on its first week, and Atlantic Records immediately shut down John's second album and gave him all the cds that didn't sell. Which John had to rent a storage unit just to put them there and he created a 1-800 number so he could sell his crappy cd there plus he would also try to sell them when he was doing gigs...
But doesn’t John have 2 Albums?
@psfanboy79 one of them was independently produced and also went nowhere.
Howard knows music. Anyone heard the Stutter's shit?
29:49 oooh spooky!!!!!!!
Dabbling John made a cheese metal album at the height of grunge/alternative. It failed, like his marriage, his kids, and his life has.
Seek medical attention if you thought that was any kind of metal lol
I saw some 2023 clips of John playing an acoustic guitar, which taught me one thing: There's no way John played a note on his albums.