Bitcoin 2012 London: Richard Stallman
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2012
- Richard Stallman's talk on "Digital Freedom: the context for Bitcoin" at the London Bitcoin Conference 2012.
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The title didn't quite give the flavour of this. It's about Bitcoin tangentially, but really it's about surveillance, censorship and malware.
I may not agree with everything he says, but I love GNU/Linux and I love the idea of GPL.
+Richard Doxton (GNULinuxGamer) I prefer the BSD License. Its more free, whereas the GPL *requires* you to send your code back. That means that you aren't free to keep your own code private should you so choose.
The GPLv3 is a worse in this regard. I wrote some software and had to do a work-around for a library that used GPLv3 :-(
Having said that, I totally respect him.
+SomeGuy Well, the point with GPL is that you don't screw over the upstream.
+SomeGuy GPL does not allow one to control users by hiding the source code.
GPL results in more freedom all around.
doesn't GPL require you to send the code back when you publish your modified version?
@@formbi That's not a problem I reckon. If anything it makes it better
An excellent presentation.
Genius. Truly a free thinker and freedom fighter. All who disagree with anything this man says, oppose the freedom of humanity by doing so.
Freedom of software as discussed here, has the ever expanding potential to revolutionize society and facilitate the evolution of our species in ways we can't imagine. DRM licenses, particularly on 3D printing devices, inherently cripple our evolutionary potential by preventing a dramatic improvement in the way of life for every human being on this planet.
Trisquel is a good option to use, especially if you have a desktop pc with an ethernet cable.
Irony is that Stallman's speeches almost always seem to wind up on RUclips, and therefore wind up on Google's servers.
Watch the trailer to our new documentary "The Spider's Web: Britain's Second Empire" ruclips.net/video/5uM2cdhfAGA/видео.html
Microsoft gives Visual Studio to schools so they teach it to their students. I cancelled my courses because I had to use Windows and Visual Studio.
Microsoft makes sure students code for their crappy OS.
True story
_Gives away free copies of Visual Studio in the name of Oppression_
- Microsoft
Thanks for resisting Microsoft's toxic monopoly and supporting Freedom!
***** Or at least, any free software compiler/interpreter.
Echoz28 Schools find it convenient to have VS for free. They have no idea what the actual cost is.
***** They are very much retarded. Yet, they claim they are highly educated.
I agree and understand why Mr Stallman prefers not to use the term "Open Source" but I also think it is better to use the term "Freedom Software" instead of "Free Software" to avoid confusion.
I think Freedom Software is still not the perfect name, just doesn't roll off the tongue that well, but I agree with your underlying point.
Darn, I was hoping to hear him talk more specifically about the architecture of Bitcoin in this speech..
It is more Stallman's usual speech than a talk about Ƀitcoin.
It’s almost impossible today to not use some of the “said” software or browsers. Almost all jobs are requiring you use explorer or other popular browsers to apply or use certain company websites like state licensing boards etc. what do u do?
People were always allowed to charge for the free software. Early GNU funding came partly from the sale of magnetic tapes with copies of Emacs.
Informativo video esperamos más contenido y nos quedamos pendiente a su canal éxito y gracias
Inspiring!
How do they cope with proprietary hardware? Unfortunately you can't easily replace it if you already have it.
Am I right to watch Richard Stallman on RUclips?
He kind of spoke about this at about 30:00. =)
make your word being heard! I remember you in Birmingham and yes, I sticked to my Debian driven Kindle. On the contrary I went back to Fedora as my main OS on the home computer.
p.s. Kindle Touch is shit and this opened my eyes, I have no way to change it. (skipping pages, touch screen dodgy etc.)
What a brilliant bright mind! A moral thought leader in the digital world.
Love Richard Stallman.
Hardware is a different issue to software. It is normally senseless to modify hardware when it is built. A user who has access to hardware datasheets or programming specs will be able to control their hardware. A user who uses hardware with DRM installed will not control that device without the proper keys.
Has any one seen Mr Stallman endorce a linux platform in particular. I am a newb in the first order but will follow this man. I saw him point to problems in certain dists.
How are you doing today?
2:00 to 2:48 nice simple explanation of the virtue of having a government.
Great speech! RMS is a genius.
12:09 - in case you never saw Stallman scratch his butt.
cheers, enjoy that.
I'm all for staying vigilant about privacy in the modern world... However, practically speaking, how do we do this?
I'm currently trying to find a job as a software engineer. I can't pick and choose at this point in my life what technology I'm surrounded by. I feel like this way of thinking is only really worth pursuing if you are completely comfortable sacrificing many aspects of your life.
Gnu is also different from Hurd. You can say Hurd is not bigger than Linux. That would be correct.
What a revolution took place after this lecture........
Amen brotha
I like how he referred to software as an array 0..3 as 4 forms of freedom
A quote I've made: "If you can narrow down freedom to a single rule, you have been fooled".
Quote me on that. :)
and the reasoning behind it?
I know what the malware is, what bugs me is the fact that you suggested Ubuntu instead of another distro =)
I'm on debian right now. Installed Wheezy and upgraded to Jessie. It's pretty cool.
one of the greatest mind in our generation...
he's referring to internet censorship in particular when he mentions Iran
podrian subtitular este video al español.
please........
Haha I like the way you ended that with 'Do DMT'. All jokes aside though, it's not a trivial suggestion.
He never meant free as in free beer ... he always meant free as in freedom, nonrestrictive, untracked etc ...
You could perhaps simplify it and consider 'state' power and 'market' power to have been consolidated by, and representing two different interest groups. State power is supposed to be distributed fairly evenly by a democratic process. Market power subscribes to no such collectivist ideology, and its power is distributed via consumption, yet bounded by state policy. Perhaps for Stallman market power represents the rich, and state power the rest of us.
What about ixquick and startpage. Also maidsafe. They all supposed to hide your web history. Scroogle did and was taken down. It must have worked.
A side some other interesting IT people , but Richard is my greatest Idol
Do not use Facebook!
Mr Stallman will recommend any of the following systems:
BLAG Linux and GNU
Dragora
Dynebolic
gNewSense
Musix
Parabola GNU/Linux
Trisquel
Ututo XS
he didnt eat anything off his foot this time. good job rms!
Malicious code placed in an open source project can be reviewed by people that can read code. Placing it in the public domain exposes the software to review by more people. You simply cannot say the same about closed source software.
true
might makes right. either you have the power or you dont. this is the struggle and is never going to end.
"Amazon Swindle" hahahha
"No explanation needed with freedom software and it sounds nice to people who don't know what it is."
okay fair enough, but it was not "fixed" is what i'm getting at.
If anyone love the internet they should watch this video.
Great free software guy!
The alpha-nerd in all his glory. Hail!
Richard Stallman, digital morality god.
User software freedom refers to the people who own the computer to do useful things. Being a computer operator doesn't imply that you own the computer. If I go to a bank and operate their ATM, I don't have any right to access the programs of the bank ATM, I am not a user of the ATM system but an operator. The bank owns the ATM system so whenever they choose to use proprietary software, they choose to give up their freedom. I, the operator, have no stake in my freedom by operating the bank's ATM.
RMS didn't contradict himself when he operated other people's machines. The fact that he operates these machines doesn't imply the fact that he is a user of the software.
12:00 in - who leaves their hat on during a lecture? I know its a small point but, how rude.
in my University Windows is everywhere and even an Adblocker is installed by default :\
People like to sacrifice their freedom when they gain something in return. Like Stallman did when he chose to become fat like he is now. He gave up his freedom of easy mobility in order to accumulate a supply of nourishment on his body. If asked, many people would not give two shits about companies spying on them. It is a good thing that Stallman voices his opinions on the matter of freedom to the people but I would not expect any big changes in the behavior of the general public.
Massive pain is needed first. THEN change 😂
Richard Stallman, the ultimate software hippie :)
RMS doesn't hate Linux. What RMS hates is when people wield unjust power over other people. Proprietary software is one form of social injustice. Since Linux is (mostly) free software, he will recommend that people use it without the non-free portions of Linux.
Stallman is cray.
fish
"Teaching dependence is wrong"
well google knows what you pooped .... so, hes rather careful and not a freak.
Same old good from Stallman
kind of embarrassing RMS being stood in front of a Mt. Gox ad - they blew up in spectacular fashion after losing a ton of BTC (850K). The guy who headed it is a billionaire today...
Now BitCoin goes wide LeaseBit a speed upgradable 1.25 /Hash/s lease-to-own miner
Not Chomsky's anarchy.
Of course, greatest mind. Whatever... Fuck reality... Anyway let's get back to earth. He was the inventor of the GPL, that is his one great achievement in life. It is something that will be remembered and he will go into the history books for it.
quick, give Richard a drop of water
You can make your own mind, but please: You have the knowledge of the Ubuntu malware, so don't suggest something you KNOW are malicious.
Lubuntu is Ubuntu without the Unity shell but with XFCE, and a lot less of software.
I get it dead ass
Anarchy is Order
>thinks Iran is a tyranny
>thinks having a gun in your home makes you less safe
Just leave, RMS, you're so out of touch these days
What's the flip side? Bitcoin is cool tech but bad currency type. There's nothing stopping business to make it bad. Kinda like gpl
It wasn't wrong, people need fixing.
I agree with u, u just remember me of the #ComicBookGuy of my beloved #Simpsons ;)
…make #Fun of people?
You are allowed to make fun of me but please use #Hashtag when you mention me: #VanosEnigmaisland
, as I use it so much somebody wrote: “holy shit, this is like the physical incarnation of #Hashtags ;)
i´m combining #Activism for a #FreeSociety #ChristianAnarchy #Christian #Anarchy with the offer to learn #Languages…
In my humble opinion everybody should #LearnEnglish...
This is very very bad we are being watched and listened everywhere I’m leaving earth 🌎 I’m going to live on the star ship enterprise
11 years ago ..... 68k views ..... 780 likes including mine .... nobody in the modern world cares about their freedom. sad.
top kek
lol Stallman doesn't agree with the open source people
Bitcoin
There is a war between the most talented and gifted computer programmers throughout the world, most people simply use a computer and don't really worry about what they choose or support while they do so, so long as it costs them nothing to do so... Anyway this is a very boring and very long speech by a very strange yet very gifted man...
But what about this case: you write some innovative software and open the source code. After some time, bigger group of software developers finds out about it and thinks that it is really good, so they exploit your ideas in their software. Since second group is bigger, works faster, and is more famous, with time it *will* have bigger user base (will chop off a good chunk of user base).
I understand that users may win from this, but original developer who might've put years of work into making the idea mature, and who may have little money to live for, now is left w/o work. Sure, it's possible to sell support for the software, but IMO usually devs are far from business world and not interested in such activities (after all they've chosen to be software developers rather than salemans).
TL;DR: how do you protect your work apart from closing its source code? I'd like to write free software, I understand benefits, but there's no *100% working* ways to protect it from plagiarism, especially when it's corporation vs one-person-company.
It's the same with proprietary software. If you write a proprietary software, a bigger group can copy it and work more on it.
With free software, you can get donations and work with the community on it (so you will be the one with a big group).
L-E-G-E-N-D
Anarcho means without monarchs, SImple as that. Everything else is effectively voluntary. Meaning a free market in industry, a free market in world trade, and most importantly a free market in money so the banksters don't have the leverage to manipulate market in their favor so they become filthy rich.
I think Stallman is very thoughtful but I hope he realizes that unfettered democracy results in a dystopia not utopia.
privacidade
Sorry its not called GNU, man.
give me BTCs and I let you monitor my purchases of yachts and cars
The biggest mistake I see with Stallman, is that he talks about convenience and ethics and that he have chosen ethics. But the truth is that he have chosen, something I call "The convenience of ethics", it's a rather funny twist, but he chooses to be ethical with software, because it is convenient to him. :)
It isn't. He could have joined hands with the industry and made his software proprietary.
BLAG Linux and GNU
Dragora
Dynebolic
gNewSense
Musix
Parabola GNU/Linux
Trisquel
Ututo XS
Mr Stallman - your free moustache is terrorizing your nose. You are constantly responding to this. Why don't you trim the fuzz a little - it would NOT alter your image, and you would still be one of the best speakers on the internet. Go well.
shhhh
beards are awesome
Floppy
How dare you? You're seeing a Stallman video and recommending UBUNTU?
Guess you haven't heard of Stallman's word on Ubuntu. Ever heard of the Ubuntu Spyware?
User Friendlyness should never come before freedom or privacy.
I recommend you suggest him one of the Gnu Distros on gnu(dot)org.
Capitalism is rule by the rich. That is the exact opposite of democracy. Anarcho-Capitalism is a contradiction in terms, since anarchy implies no hierarchical organization, and capitalism is a brutal form of hierarchy.
Stallman talking about freedom and openness, and yet he's guzzling down those Pepsi Sodas on every conference he's at (just look at that stomach). The same company that spends millions upon millions of dollars on lobbying against openness in their use of genetically modified crops, contributor to Indias water shortage, a constant destroyer of the environment etc.
This Mr.Stallman doesn't oppose, the thing he opposes is social networking. Jesus Christ man, get your priorities straight. Nutcase.
He opposes it on his website. I don't know why He accepted the Pepsi cans, since he refuses to buy such things usually. Maybe he became aware of it after these old videos.
This is good and bad. I get the idea that people dont want to be controlled or told how they can use software and I get that people/ some people may not want Microsoft,Google,Apple,Facebook and other big companies and the government to get more powerful and control us/surveillance us, I also get if theirs a problem with the code/program/software, it would be allot easier and better, at times and in certain situations, to just add in code to fix the problem or code something to go along with the software, to use the software how you need to, and to make the software better, but at the same time, by giving the software away/ allowing people/Users/Google/Microsoft/Facebook/Apple/The Government/terrorist/who knows who, to alter the code, creates allot of vulnerabilities, meaning now some one could add malware to the software, to track what your doing/ just be destructive over all, just for fun or, because there bored. Security needs to work to the users benefit, not the companies, but at the same time, sometimes the companies benefit is also the users/employees benefit. This comment could go on for a long time, if I explained/showed different point of views and really broke everything down, but I am gonna try and sum up the gist of it. For one security, if we didn't have encryption/VPNs it would be bad, for everyone; although yes encryption can be used destructively on the corporate/business side, Government side, along with the consumer/user and also the hacker side, I also realize that different people define the word hacker differently, meaning some people use the word as in, someone that tinkers/alters certain things/computers/devices, to work for them/ to create, but essentially hacking is the same thing, in the breaking into/destroying systems/stealing peoples data, definition as well, if you really think about it. With hacking your looking for vulnerabilities with in systems to exploit them, for what ever your trying to accomplish, so in a sense there one in the same. Also Crackers are something completely different, crackers, crack passwords/guess/figure out passwords, thats usually considered a manual task/done by the cracker, you can also use cracking software as well, but hacking and cracking are two different things; yes a hacker and a cracker can do the same things/have knowledge of both, but doing tasks that involve figuring out passwords is considered cracking, unless were referring to social engineering/ looking for a place were a password is written down on paper, or looking in a computer with no password, and clicking into a file/folder that says passwords, or finding and exploiting something with in software/ a program, that allows you to read or get someones password. Also theres also a fine line between hackers as well, there is white hat hackers, they are considered to be ethical/good hackers, that look for vulnerabilities with in computers/networks/systems, to patch those vulnerabilities with in a computer/network/system, to make them more secure; a Grey hat hacker is someone that might do what a white hat hacker does, but they may also download movies and music from secure sites or more specifically, they may break into and alter things with in programs to benefit them selves; this goes against software licenses; and is put in place to protect the developer and protect the user in some cases, but the main thing to take away from this, is a grey hat hacker isn't intentionally trying to hurt/harm anyone, but they are hacking things to benefit them selfs, but getting software without paying; and the last category is black hat hackers and they want to cause damage to servers/networks/monitor people/ there intention is to harm users and networks/ to do illegal things or take peoples money. So the point is we need passwords, also I highly recommend two step verification as well, along with encryption/security to protect us/our data and we definitely dont need to give everyone access to source code, thats as crazy as allowing business/corporate/the government to control us, there needs to be a sweet spot/ a way to protect everyone, Also I am almost a hundred percent sure that GNU Linux has something in it, that protects the OS/Source code/kernel/ROM, from being altered, if not they need to be taught a lesson, the hard way and add something in, that would be catastrophic to the OS/Operating System and its users, just to show how important security/encryption, VPNs and passwords and two step verification is; but I also get that programmers/developers need to get paid for there work and I also get that some software wouldn't be free/allowed to be downloaded with no payment up front, with out a caveat/ a catch and that catch is, companies taking your search history and what your buying online and selling it to companies, to pay for the software developed. Also you could also argue in the GNU OS/Operating System, your having to do something similar to pay for the software, the users are adding to the code to make a profit, so no one has to hire someone to code, what people are getting to use for free, on top of this though, you can still make a profit with the OS, reason being is the copy right/license agreement, people can use the OS for free, but they cant sell it, with out paying something for the distribution rights, so yes people are still getting paid, theirs just less profit going on, compared to other OSs/ Operating Systems; Also back to traditional OSs/Operating systems/profit plans; Now you can muddy the water/ make your info online not accurate/also encrypt and use a VPN, but if everyone does this, then most likely companies are going to come to the conclusion that selling peoples information isn't worth it, any more, and then your copy of windows will cost more or not be free anymore. You may say, I dont care Linux is free, but Windows is used for banking and to get a really good experience with gaming, out of the box, you will need windows, so most likely there are going to be some people that are going to have to pay for windows; Also I'm not saying you shouldn't have security in place, you should; I'm just saying that, one everyone has to make money, so if selling data isn't working out, then software is going to cost more up front. Also it is not fun, not knowing whats in your firmware or needing to check everything to make sure, or if you cant see it, deleting it and coding your own software and encrypting it, because then you will know what its designed to do, but thats what security is all about. What would be more practical/ what I think would make more sense with his/Richard stallman's movement, is to create a software/OS/Operating System/Kernel/Rom; Every copy of that OS should have a VPN/HTTP Every Where, encryption out of the box for files/everything, Ad Blocker, blockers for other things he doesn't like such as java script, with in reason though and have the ability to toggle/ turn these things on and off individually, really good security, directly out of the box/download, that just runs, it should also require a password two step verification and also have software that goes on your phone that puts a mobile version of GNUs OS/Operating System on your device, also custom firmware, that doesn't track you/data mine/ also have the ability to, if you want to go all out buy custom hardware/machine/ Richard Stallman approved hardware; also people could also add there own code to the OS/Operating System as well, but updates/add ons would need to be approved; yes that doesn't make updating something as easy, but it goes with the actual cause and thats to keep big brother/the government/facebook/google and so on, off your back/out of your private business; doing this creates vulnerabilities though, but thats part of what Richard Stallman's about, is the user to be able to add code when they want, but Richard also doesn't want big brother/the government/google snooping either, so thats why things should mandatorly need to be approved, and only be able to be uploaded while there VPN is on/running. This would makes allot more sense vs giving everyone the keys to the kingdom. Also yes I'm sure apple,Android and Amazon want to sensor things/remove bad things from there store, but on top of that, the reason you can't just upload anything to these places, is because of malware/viruses and so on/ more importantly security, yes I Know apple,Microsoft and so on have there own malware tools, such as, example; Microsoft/Windows 10 and Diagtrack and Dmwappushservice, which can be deleted and should be deleted. Point being this makes allot more sense to the over all cause, how its currently laid out is contradicting and basically pointless.
You are extremely confused.. lol.
I loled at "the state is the tool that we use to be more powerful than the rich". How a smart man like Richard can believe in such mythological nonsense is.... baffling.
Because he's not a libertarian.
Naive is just for starters
I shouldn't damn SAS, because when Copyrights are being banned, that's the way to make money.
You obviously oppose freedom. Do you have nothing better to do than mindlessly hate on pro-freedom commenters and troll pro-freedom videos?
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