Are we forgetting Wxltzy was the top Kill and Damage with 6 less games in Y4 S2 Playoffs? Why are people suddenly dogging him calling him bad when He's been seen as one of the top roller players over the last year, shits crazy.
This meta is already getting so old. You do 100 dmg to a triple support team and they have NC tactical which is unbreakable now. NC wall, gibby dome, AND lifeline ult. AND can heal and reset 2x faster than any non-support with 100% healing after res...How much more hand-holding, braindead can this meta and gameplay get.
Imo the devs made supports way too OP on purpose, just like Seer on launch. This is to get everyone to play them as a crutch, then they’ll eventually adjust the supports so that they’re still meta but not so OP that people run 2-3 stack supports anymore. Thoughts?
I'd be with you but a plan like that would require a level of foresight and intelligence that we all know they're not capable of. It's to the point theyre doing stuff so dumb and bad that we have to gaslight ourselves into thinking its some kind of 200 iq play
My biggest issue with how they released support changes is I like the direction they're going in with class changes but I don't like how they're changing one class at a time. I would rather they go all out and make a huge "Apex 2.0" patch. I don't like how "unnatural" the meta is, meaning supports are so obviously overtuned it feels like there is nowhere for the meta to go but the obvious direction they've layed out. I worry that they'll spend each season with a flavor of the month class change and it will be next to impossible to balance once each class gets its rework. I'd rather they make massive changes across the board and make time between major patches longer. The meta should take time to develop, as it is now the meta is largely figured out the second you read the patch notes.
@@llwyd564 No patch in the world is fixing 5 years of rubber band fixes layered on top of each other. Anyone who knows coding will tell you its 1000% easier to just start fresh with a chance to not make mistakes you made in season 7 you now cant fix without breaking the game in season 20 etc. Theres too many fundamental issues with the game; too many legends; bad akimbo introduction; massive weapon imbalances at all time, list goes on and on
Idk if anyone remembers this but the first time Havoc was op waaaaay back like the season before they got rid of sorting factory pros complained and respawn devs responded by saying "balance is not our goal".
Hal is annoyed by the meta, Zer0 too, Wxltzy dont care at all since he's the best (🤡) i'm soooooo ready for a 20th Falcoons place again or even lower 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
1:17 why are we swinging the right team? We can play the cargo box and res path (with gold knockdown btw) while the other two teams are aggro to each other. Then just mop up the remaining team. Seems like an absolute throw by zero.
call to kill right was given right before path went down, waltzy fumbled by over committing and going down. Hal would have had to counter call and leave zero to die if he rez'd. the right play to make was wait out bubble and play around the black box on the left or the front side of the blue shipping container. everyone has shotguns in this end game so a single misstep means a loss. zero was first to leave bubble and didnt get hit when crossing to the other teams. he saw an advantage and called for it. waltzy going down made zeros plan suck.
@@ILovetheYOUTUBYS Biggest issue is that waltzy was already low before the call. Zero should have been aware of this so commiting to fight right is bad. Like I said, Zero saying fight right feels like a throw when they actually have the best positioning for the final circle. If zero didnt commit to fighting right, they could have easily reset behind the cargo box with newcastle fast res + gold knock and won the 1v1 fight.
@@jmorales6539 You're right definitely bigger crutch than the infinite revive bunker down slop thats going on right now. Game is borderline dead who cares anyway now that I think about it
@@jmorales6539 So Valk/Horizon/Seer, which heavily punished bad positioning because it was extremely difficult to reset, is somehow more of a crutch than double support and infinite cover? Not to mention that the new meta forces shotguns, which take minimal skill to use, instead of SMGs, which require precise tracking for a prolonged period of time.
waltzy better start practicing his fries into bag mechanics
Haha that’s crazy
he will eat em before they reach the bag
@@Win_De1 yooooo that’s even crazier
@@panamasyndicate I'm dying bro
this thread is insane😭
I feel like watching waltzy I could be a pro player he gives me hope
Are we forgetting Wxltzy was the top Kill and Damage with 6 less games in Y4 S2 Playoffs? Why are people suddenly dogging him calling him bad when He's been seen as one of the top roller players over the last year, shits crazy.
how are you over looking dezigns plays? the manchild literally throws every fkn game lmfao
@@altare2527 did he doing that consistenly? nope
its just a fluke.
This meta is already getting so old. You do 100 dmg to a triple support team and they have NC tactical which is unbreakable now. NC wall, gibby dome, AND lifeline ult. AND can heal and reset 2x faster than any non-support with 100% healing after res...How much more hand-holding, braindead can this meta and gameplay get.
when u censor Zero&Hal it feels like half of the things they said got mute.
7:06 wishing to see thier pov looool
8:02 yoooo did Nickmercs just hit a clip??! Didn't think I'd live to see that ever happen. But still, well done
yeah not playing on home servers hehe
is Saki cheating?
i thought the same thing lmao
How?
No just like a million sens
Yanya without a team is wild, the guy is cracked at the game
shotties and dome is back! haha.
waltzy is so bad dropping gen is legit the most brainrot decision ever
Imo the devs made supports way too OP on purpose, just like Seer on launch. This is to get everyone to play them as a crutch, then they’ll eventually adjust the supports so that they’re still meta but not so OP that people run 2-3 stack supports anymore.
Thoughts?
I'd be with you but a plan like that would require a level of foresight and intelligence that we all know they're not capable of. It's to the point theyre doing stuff so dumb and bad that we have to gaslight ourselves into thinking its some kind of 200 iq play
@@f1rc-x5kYou never know
My biggest issue with how they released support changes is I like the direction they're going in with class changes but I don't like how they're changing one class at a time. I would rather they go all out and make a huge "Apex 2.0" patch. I don't like how "unnatural" the meta is, meaning supports are so obviously overtuned it feels like there is nowhere for the meta to go but the obvious direction they've layed out. I worry that they'll spend each season with a flavor of the month class change and it will be next to impossible to balance once each class gets its rework. I'd rather they make massive changes across the board and make time between major patches longer. The meta should take time to develop, as it is now the meta is largely figured out the second you read the patch notes.
@@llwyd564 No patch in the world is fixing 5 years of rubber band fixes layered on top of each other. Anyone who knows coding will tell you its 1000% easier to just start fresh with a chance to not make mistakes you made in season 7 you now cant fix without breaking the game in season 20 etc. Theres too many fundamental issues with the game; too many legends; bad akimbo introduction; massive weapon imbalances at all time, list goes on and on
Idk if anyone remembers this but the first time Havoc was op waaaaay back like the season before they got rid of sorting factory pros complained and respawn devs responded by saying "balance is not our goal".
3:55 I had this same glitch this week literally could not open boxes or my backpack menu. It was weird.
Hall can't adjust himselves to new meta? OMG, I'm so sorry
nah, he just hates it as should everyone its dogshit
Hal is completely useless without Zer0 in this meta, good thing he is back
Hal is annoyed by the meta, Zer0 too, Wxltzy dont care at all since he's the best (🤡) i'm soooooo ready for a 20th Falcoons place again or even lower 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
You did not just say wlatzy is the best 😂
@@Gracebr0sLook at the 🤡 emoji right next to him
I'm so ready for their 20th place very hard to get that place tbh
@@Gracebr0s the average waltzy hater doesnt understand simple sarcasm. great example of the average iq of you ppl lol
@ when was I hating??? I thought it was funny 🫤
hey zipp do you post your own apex clips at all
hate how often people complain about a fresh meta
not saying waltzy is bad, but still wondering why tf falcons chose him instead of literally anyone else lmao.
Considering they didn’t win last lan either I mean hell?
17k arena kills is crazy no?
Who's playing in CR nowadays?
Less clips per video of Mande crying over his ping/internet connection pls
Gen and this meta is the problem
WW
If this is his first time playing now wonder they suck
Falcons needs to get better and quit complaining
I was like oh yuh Zeros back and they get 3rd then see TSM didn’t play 😭😭
1:17 why are we swinging the right team? We can play the cargo box and res path (with gold knockdown btw) while the other two teams are aggro to each other. Then just mop up the remaining team. Seems like an absolute throw by zero.
call to kill right was given right before path went down, waltzy fumbled by over committing and going down. Hal would have had to counter call and leave zero to die if he rez'd. the right play to make was wait out bubble and play around the black box on the left or the front side of the blue shipping container. everyone has shotguns in this end game so a single misstep means a loss. zero was first to leave bubble and didnt get hit when crossing to the other teams. he saw an advantage and called for it. waltzy going down made zeros plan suck.
@@ILovetheYOUTUBYS Biggest issue is that waltzy was already low before the call. Zero should have been aware of this so commiting to fight right is bad. Like I said, Zero saying fight right feels like a throw when they actually have the best positioning for the final circle. If zero didnt commit to fighting right, they could have easily reset behind the cargo box with newcastle fast res + gold knock and won the 1v1 fight.
Damn ur so smart maybe they should hire you instead
Game is unwatchable. Bring back Valk Horizon Seer meta
Crutch meta nice!
@@jmorales6539 You're right definitely bigger crutch than the infinite revive bunker down slop thats going on right now. Game is borderline dead who cares anyway now that I think about it
@@sektor6121 Yeah who cares right? That's why you're in an apex related video commenting eh? Very insightful comment!
@@jmorales6539 So Valk/Horizon/Seer, which heavily punished bad positioning because it was extremely difficult to reset, is somehow more of a crutch than double support and infinite cover? Not to mention that the new meta forces shotguns, which take minimal skill to use, instead of SMGs, which require precise tracking for a prolonged period of time.
@@sektor6121 You're completely right, Valk/Horizon/Seer was arguably the most skillful and fun meta in the history of the game