NASCAR Undecided on Larson - Detroit GP Day 1 News and Notes
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2024
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The Kyle Larson waiver drama continues, I wrap up our coverage of the Indy 500, and talk IMSA and IndyCar at the Detroit Grand Prix
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I feel like there’s zero percent chance that Hendrick didn’t have a conversation with nascar on this exact topic before they agreed to race Indy
They only filled the request today, calm down.
@@rexthewolf3149 "No timetable"... Really?
@@rexthewolf3149calm down? I don’t think you understood my
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@@rexthewolf3149That's not true, they did it several days ago
I agree, I sure there was a conversation with Hendrick and NASCAR before running the 500.
Was very cool to see that segment with Herta. I don't think that I've ever seen a driver offer a deep dive into their review of the technical data to determine what caused a shunt. This is why this channel is such a great follow for hardcore racing fans. Thank you to David and the members of his team. Please keep up the good work. :)
I hate this waiver thing so much and fear the worst will happen. Sorry NASCAR, The Indy 500 is a more prestigious event and more important race than the Coke 600! If suspensions get waivers, 1 of your star drivers doing the Indy 500 giving more promotion and credibility to your sport definitely should!
That’s what happens when you have postseason in racing…
Such a stupid debate on something that shouldn’t be in auto racing at all
@@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YTSlapshoes was spot on with his “Dam of Legitimacy” video
@@ryanfraley7113 the fact that it’s a “hot debate” baffles me as a pure Motorsports fanatic.
Even the NBC announcers were touting Kyle doing the double, the difficulties of logistics, and they made a big deal about NASCAR. Bet they’ll not do that again. The France family is past their “use by” date, bled almost every dollar from the sanctioning body and teams, and worst of all they screwed up the rules In a lame attempt to generate excitement and interest. The stage system sucks, and so does the playoff system. Go back to letting racers race and get off some of the $8.1 billion dollars you “earned “ last year back to the teams, ya greedy animals!
@@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YTfalse drama. The intense excitement of good auto racing is just not enough for the NASCAR nitwit brain trust, who came up with the idea that no race would end on caution. WTF? If Larson doesn’t get the stupid waiver, then I have watched my last NASCAR race. At least until the France family gets out
Great quote from Marcus Ericsson: "A character building month." That's for sure!
Blomqvist 'shanked' by Meyer-Shank.
Michigan > Belle Isle > Downtown
The 24 hours of Lemans is going to be phenomenal.
All i'm saying is no one has ever seen Santino Ferrucci, and Ricky Stenhouse jr. in the same room, at the same time........
Come to think, I’ve never seen Santino, Ricky, and Batman in the same room together either….🤔
Who’s that Ricky guy?
I hate they are doing Detroit the same weekend as the 24 hours of Nurburgring
Santino rolling out quick. Let’s hope he brings it home with a good result.
Nice to see the #14 running up front again!
Kyle Larson needs to tell nascar to stick it where the sun don't shine!
If Nascar messes this up .. Larson will end up racing Indy cars
I agree with your premise however, I think that it would carry so much more weight if that message came from Mr. H himself, instead! Is NASCAR that stupid that they would let their Star Team pull four of it's teams just because NASCAR is too prideful (see Stupid) to stick by their guns RE, The Indianapolis 500 vs. The World 600 and, as such, penalize #5 Hendrick Cars entry due to their totally Unprofessional pride being a little hurt. It's this sort off buffoonery that always reminds me why I left NASCAR right after Tony Stewart won his last Championship over "Cousin Carl." Playoffs, Stage Racing, $100 thousand fines for stupid crap (like Ricky Stenhouse vs, "The Real Heel" Crybaby Kyle Bush.)
If Kyle Larson, or any other driver for that natter, who's driving the "Double" were to win "The Greatest Spectacle in Racing" then, ALL BETS ARE OFF!!! NASCAR can live for one week without that driver achieving their dream of a life time.
NASCAR and Rick have played this well. Look at all the publicity that they have received from something that will be granted 100%. If they granted the waiver day one, none of this internet excitement would have happened.
Theoretically, this is just trying to make actual race fans like the Chase in NASCAR.
Keyword: theoretically
It technically is day 1, Hendrick only applied today afaik. If anything, that Hendrick sat on it for so long before applying let the debate stew on a lot longer than it would have normally, only further putting pressure on NASCAR
Yeah the fact they’re dragging it out is almost certainly done to get people talking. Publicity is publicity after all.
Rick Hendrick didn’t get to where he’s at by being stupid. With all the planning and money it took to make the double happen you can’t tell me that the waiver conversation never took place from the start given weather conditions in the month of May in Indiana
I was there in 1983, when it was a F1 race. The big shiny Renaissance Tower had the big FORD logo on it. F1 had Ford engines at the time. Not is Chevy. Sad how Detroit slowly lost the auto industry. When I was there in 83, big empty building where factories produced automobiles. The F1 track was in the same basic location but much different.
Have to say very frustrated on Tom getting benched. With all this success in sportscars and Meyer Shank giving him an opportunity in indycar, and you bench him after just 5 regular season races, how do you expect him to learn the car and the series. One thing thar annoys me that once someone gets hurt or loses a ride there indycar career is almost over here. Look at Askew, Malukas, Pagenaud there talented drivers that I feel still could do very well in Indycar.
I don’t think malukas is done yet hopefullt
He crashed turn 1 at the Indy 500 and collected 2 other cars. Not a good look, I bet the sponsors asked for him to be pulled
I think if Kyle does not get a waiver, then he should do Indy Car full time. He could run the NASCAR races when there is no Indy Car race. This would give him the best chance of winning Indy or the double next year. And he loses nothing doing this with no chance at a championship. Is this what the people complaining about the waiver want?
I came here to say something very similar. Hendrick could put someone else in the Cup car to collect owner points while Kyle is making new friends in Indycar.
C’mon kids, we all know that this is just an attempt to generate some excitement by being a bunch of divks. I believe that if they screw over Mr. H, retribution will be swift and terrible for the France bunch. I hope.
Larson is THE most galvanizing driver in racing today. If he isn't in the "playoffs", there will be no interest in watching.
Thoroughly enjoy your podcasts!! My interest in NASCAR continues to diminish, while my interest in open wheel racing continues to increase.
Another great report. As a new Indy fan from NewZealand youve been instrumental in teaching me about the game.. Thank you.
Santucci is bringing the sparkles to Detroit.
I think you were too critical about Blomqvist when talking about him being benched by MSR, just like with AM dropping Malukas because he still wasn't able to recover in time
I don't believe there is any news about Tom being injured....
Could be the sponsor $$ ran out?
Didn't give Tom any time. Can't expect a rookie to be on it immediately. Shank have turned into McLaren.
I figured Super Tex would have Santino dressed in a black hat🤷🏻♂️
Love the flag display
Enjoy your reports David !
That fact that stingray thinks he had a shot for the win at Indy is hilarious
Hey there, give the kid a break. After all he got out there and led the INDY 500; what have you done lately? I grant you that he was a looonng shot, but still. He’s out there doing it and improving, so cool out on the kid.
@@markvincent5992 I'll happily admit that he's done a lot more than I have and I love a good underdog story. But to say he had a chance for the win is completely outlandish. And the only race I've seen improvement so far was last weekends 500.
Vautier returning to Indycar certainly wasn't on my 2024 bingo card!
NAPCAR should be thankful for all the extra publicity that the series and its sponsors received do to Larson running in the Indy 500. It seemed like they were happy when Busch did it, and was it Stewart?
I’m still a Chase Elliott fan, but no longer a Nascar fan. They’ve flipped me the bird too many times, and they wonder why they’re not getting new fans. I’m over it. There likely will be a competing series in years to come.
Talk about being totally mind Fd, they say the track chooses the winner, then you listen to Hertas comments, like, what does he do for 2025?? He went all out on Monday and then carb day, so what can he do next year to do better?? Locked in a maze of quicksand. If it was me I would be ill.
ITS A LARSON VIDEOOOOOO
IMO Larson should not give a waiver, it's not the intent of the waiver system, however based on Nascar giving a waiver to a driver that missed a race because of a suspension, how can Nascar not give him a waiver.
You forgot the intro music
I didn’t know Malukas lost his ride! Stupid on someone’s part. He was coming along nicely.
Calm down Hendrick just filed today it will be granted.
Wait is it granted?!
They filed Tuesday night
I don’t give a toss one way or the other. NASCAR IS THE WWE OF AUTO RACING
So you could have the points leader of regular season ineligible for the championship is simply insane.
Yes and if you want real “stock car racing”, then IMSA is for you. They have classes where stock is just that, not a conjured up formula that bears little relation to the car you drive.!
Who the hell wants to see that? I see it on the interstate everyday.
I don’t follow NASCAR so I’m unfamiliar with the waiver process. How long does NASCAR have to make a decision on the waiver? What if they wait until just before the playoffs before deciding to deny the waiver so they ensure Larson competes in all the races leading up to the playoffs? if they deny the waiver now, they run the risk of Larson not competing the rest of the season, right? I can’t imagine he wouldn’t compete. If they deny the waiver he could 1) race with a chip on his shoulder, go out and dominate and make it painfully obvious that the 2024 champion would need an * next to their name or 2) as mentioned in another comment, Hendrick could put another driver in the car to get owner points and Larson could say “Peace out. I’m gonna race sprint cars the rest of the year.” Having said all that, I think NASCAR grants the waiver.
If they have a spoonful of brains between them, they grant the waiver.
The fans are getting fed up.
Is that Ferrucis Mom behind him🤭
Vautier? Well deserved. Sponsorship surely
NASCAR would be stupid not to approve this waiver. Tony Stewart missed 3 races in 2014 for personal issues, not injury, illness, or even suspension - he still got a waiver. Larson, in 2015, missed Martinsville but was not required to receive a waiver at that time due to having qualified the car in the race. Nowadays, when a driver misses races for any reason, there's a consequence of giving up playoff points that could be earned. Kyle Larson should receive a waiver and going forward, the waiver system makes very little sense to me - just have a minimum requirement.
It’s rapidly becoming amateur hour in the sanctioning body.
I guess I don't really understand the waiver process. I thought the waiver was to put someone in the playoffs if they didn't originally qualify. But isn't Larson already locked in since he won a race?
No he isn't. They took him out. If he isn't given a waiver nothing he does count for anything he's basically just running for nothing as of right now or the rest of the year if he isn't given one he's basically disqualified
One would think so. But NASCAR is being run like Creepy Joe runs the country…BADLY! I would have thought that Mr.H had an understanding up front about this. I think the France progeny’s feelings were hurt because they hate playing second fiddle to Indy so they decided to harass Kyle, Mr H and the others. No class at all
@@lilc94They knew he was going to do this, he’s leading the points, has won races but because some halfwit has decided to be a putz mit oigen.
16:56 a lot said without saying much
Man, i am the only one from India that interested in Indy lol. I find it more interesting than F1. But I don’t know the timing ffs. Just gotta watch the highlights.
I'm from India and I only watch indy 500 live. I can watch other races via highlights.
We actually have more than one or two cars that can win in our races and our officials don’t take bribes to throw the championship to an undeserved driver for money.
NASCAR is likely trying to word this very carefully
It seems that NASCAR has hired the writing staff of the WWE, to punch up the numbers.
Has Hendrick filed a appeal yet?
What? You need to file an appeal to get an appeal approved? Lol
Wow...How come I feel that NASCAR pulled a 5D Chess move on everyone?
Think about it, no one's talking about Indycar or the last, widely praised, Indy 500. They're instead talking about NASCAR and a NASCAR driver and their NASCAR Playoff. In fact, that seems to be the bigger talking point rather than Indycar and their drivers and their season.
And this is the issue with the Robin Miller approach. It could easily turn on you, and cause whatever air you had in your balloon to go rushing elsewhere by allowing other drivers from other major competitors and their series to take seats away from your own series and drivers. You, again, end up promoting those drivers and leagues rather than your own.
I wonder if the waiver has been granted...?
Short answer: yes. But they’re gonna build up the animosity towards…everyone involved with the exception of themselves and try to get people to care.
@@markvincent5992false
Nope
@@markvincent5992 ok.
Sparkly. you sound like one of the girls from South Park.
pff if im larson to hell with nascar id be chasing to sign with an indycar or imsa team
Why would he do that when The World of Outlaws exists? You don't know much about Kyle Larson.
Why would Larson waste his time with 2nd rate road racing series? Larson literally runs the High Limit 410 winged sprint car series with Brad Sweet. By the way, not that you would know, Larson won the High Limit race at Lawrenceburg Friday night. I agree Larson should tell NASCAR to go get elf's, but, he should run a full time sprint car schedule with selected Indy car oval races...
By the way, if you wonder why Indy car is considered a 2nd rate formula car road racing series simply look at where they are "racing " this weekend as opposed where they were last weekend and where Larson those to race last night....
NASCAR is just making Hendrick sweat just a bit before they give them the wavier
I don’t think these twits know how to make a guy like Mr. H sweat. If they had the brains God gave a gopher, they’d be interested in how pissed off the fans are and quit being a$$holes and grant the waiver
No waiver will mean a ratings tank for ASSCAR playoffs. I won't be watching.
The playoffs are and have always been B.S. The season champion should be who earns the most points for the entire season, not just someone who gets lucky in the last few races. This fake manufactured excitement means nothing. Leave the playoffs for the stick and ball sports.
DITTO!
Homestly, larson hats were like the trump hat of the 500. Can you imagine how riotous that group can get when they mess with him???
Something to keep it in the news narrative until nect week or so. Gateway needs eyes on the new pavement & close racing. Nascar needs buzz with 2nd tier Series NextGen Cup & Xfinity car racing being awesome.
Aren’t they still using the old cars for Xfinity ? The next gen cars have almost been dragged into the 20th century, but they are much better in most respects, and they have so much more billboard space in the new cars..
They better give him the waiver. They used him for the publicity.
NASCAR soical and digital media did but Jim France doesn't care about that
michael andretti called his team manager can we cancel Ericsson's contract after the detroit race, all he does is crash. make sure we cancel his contract at the end of the year, he is doing nothing better than grosjean.
At least he won the Indy 500. How many times did you win there Mikey? ZERO!
It’s is a joke if he doesn’t get that waiver. And NASCAR running this out for more stories and press is making them look like idiots.
The longer NASCAR waits The longer I boycott Nascar ... !!!
I may boycott them just for being douchebags.
I'll say this , chase Elliott and Kyle Bush got injured both got a waver. Elliott actually start the race he got suspended in 2023 coke 600, so really its 50/50 if he shouldn't or not , people gonna disagree but by the rules he shouldn't get a waver, larson did not start the race
Which means he shouldn't get it. I know Indy is a big race but u gotta put it in consideration before it rained they already knew 1 week before it started, so really its a decision , which will cause him big time.
This could become a giant mess made by NASCAR. No wonder Tony Stewart is leaving NASCAR for good.
Hendrick could have applied for the waver Monday. I think the delay was strategic in the sense that Larson was again a big topic of conversation this week. It helped galvanize the fan base. Now the hot potato is in NASCAR hand and they had best make the right call.
Monday was holiday so most people had it off that work for NASCAR and even management with race teams
Some smarty pants PR team in NAscar thinks this is a cool strategy, make us fans wait...to create tension? I don't know. Are they telling us that Henrick, Penske, France have not discussed this? Nascar fans are not stupid. Be careful, the competition for fans is fragile. A risky game being played out in public at our expense.
Jim France isn't interested in that shit
Hendrick just needs to write the proper donation check to the France Library for the waiver/pardon.😉
Oh please my friend! Call it by its proper name: Mr. H has to pay extortion to the France family or they’ll tank their own championship for spite.
Don't think it's the France family. I think it has to do with Gibbs teams and Denny, Denny believes he's owed the championship trophy, he doesn't deserve to be a champ. Getting good all the time, FedEx wasn't supposed to be in Nascar at all, why are they, mark my words, last race for all the jewelry, Denny will be covered with all FedEx only. That's because of Mr Gibbs and Michael Jordan. They want to able to say that Denny is a champion to, once years ago before his knee operation, I'd say yes, since then, he thinks it's his and no one's else in his eyes, then retire as driver and drive from time to time in certain races. I wish Michael Jordan would buy him out and fix the name and be sole owner, don't need Denny at all. But not a user at all.
@@JR-kr1lv With respect , I don’t believe that the Coach has that much juice over NASCAR, even as a multi team owner. I mean, look at the Hendrick operation, it’s also very large and see what they are doing over the waiver. My quarrel is with the rules changes, the addition of stage racing and the playoffs. Artificial excitement just like the waiver nonsense. It wasn’t needed and I think it detracts from the sport. The other thing I was trying to bring out was the fact that NASCAR made $8.1 billion dollars last year and I believe that was after taxes. The France family got most of it. Now they want $30 million dollars for each charter. Why? NASCAR was very successful without this gouge of the sponsors, teams and fans. In fact if they had the brains God gave a gopher, they’d cancel the charter nonsense and then rebate some of their billions to the teams. Right. When swine become aviators!
Oh, he's well versed in the pay to play....Google "Rick Hendrick Presidential Pardon" and the waters will clear for you.
56 yrs loose him. Loose me.
Kyle Larson…THE NEXT TONY STEWART! He has the skills and business acumen to FLIP THE BIRD TO nascar!
Is kyle larson leaving nascar
One can hope.
He will get it just more clickbait
Crazy they haven’t approved it I think this might stem from 2020 being that nascar has gone to being more liberal in the last couple of years so now they want f with him and the team.
I like that. You equated NASCAR with the new idiotic behavior to being a byproduct of being liberal. Congrats, you got it right. The inmates are running the asylum and it’s time for the France family to get right or get out.
Larson should just quit NASCAR and go to Indycar. F all this waiver mess.
This is just clickbait stuff to get viewers. The decistion was made before he went. But hey...content creators need content!!
What it’s getting from me is that I don’t care about NASCAR, as it’s false advertising to say that these are in any way “stock” as they were in the old days. Get rid of the France family as they haven’t had any good ideas in years and they are bleeding it dry.
Whats the excuse now Nascar apologist.... ?
mickey mouse joke of a non track. cleveland is way better of a track with actual racing.
all nascar does is a gimmick. i thought you win one race and you are in the playoffs.
He shouldn’t get one
Why? Because you say so? It’s as good a reason as nascar has for being a bunch of losers and idiots who are trying to deny the fact that it’s been arranged for months and only the big mouth of some nitwit who has his panties in a bunch is screwing up the works
Nascar 📉. They shouldn’t be making enemies