Arrowhead Equipment makes an AFFORDABLE under quilt specifically for the Hennessy Hammock. It’s called the Potomac. It is wonderful. I love my Hennessy. Hard to knock Jack r Better, just letting people know there is another option. Thanks for the post. 👍
Thanks for watching and commenting. I agree that the Arrowhead Potomac is a really good option but, it is a synthetic quilt. I am really kind of a “down fill” hanger for my top/bottom quilts simply for compressibility.
Nice video, thanks for sharing. Wish I'd seen it earlier. Warbonnet and Simply Light Designs have been making asym underquilts for years. SLD makes the Trail Winder (synthetic), and Warbonnet makes the Wooki (down).
Slightly unrelated, but Ben from Goosefeet Gear made me a custom down Anorak. He is an exceptional craftsman, and worked with me to meet my specifications. I highly recommend this company.
Good morning, thanks for watching and thank you for commenting. Interesting information...I had never heard of LSH so thank you for bringing them to my attention. Looks like they have good gear. I checked out the Spectre UQ and think it is quality partial coverage UQ. The project I worked on with Goosefeet Gear (goosefeetgear.com/) was to make a very custom UQ for this particular hammock - which we accomplished.
While the symmetry hasn't been a big issue for me down to the temperatures I'm willing to endure, I appreciate learning about your solution. I'm fine with my Dutch Gear Chameleon hammock and Jacks R Better underquilts (I have two, one for colder weather or a second for my buddy). In fact in February 2023 JRB started selling a modular underquilt that zips right onto the modular Chameleon Hammock ($250-$280-$320, 40-20-0F, overstuffed 25%). BTW my solution to keeping warm is to put a Pinnacle Mercantile Authentic Military Woobie (poncho liner) above my ridge line and let it drape down over the side and I'm never cold with FBS and have a Therm-a-Rest NeoAir Xlite 8 ounce sleeping pad (20x47") that is the PERFECT length and warmth for a hammock! Happy Trails, Michael
Thanks for sharing. Looks like a nice solution for the asymmetrical hammocks, but the cost is prohibitive. I agree with you, with the plethora of gathered end asym hammocks out there, it is frustrating that there isn’t an equal plethora of asym UQs on the market.
Hello Gary. Thanks for the watching and the comments, I appreciate the feedback. Yes, I also thought the cost (and weight) was a little on the high side until I heard from Ben w/ Goose Feet Gear the other day. He informed me that we had been going back and forth on temperature ratings I wanted and actually made the UQ to a 0*F / -18*C rating which explains the higher costs and weight. This was his first attempt at making an underquilt and for a custom UQ at a 0*F / -18*C rating, it is not too expensive. Assuming you want a higher temperature rating (and now that he has an idea of how to create the quilt), it may be a little more financially practical. Wouldn't hurt to reach out to him to discuss: ben@goosefeetgear.com.
That was a great video, thanks for sharing. You have to wonder why Hennessy themselves haven't figure that one out yet. I use different hammocks now, but still own several Hennessys, which I mostly loan out to friends when they come on my trips. Don't get me wrong, IMO Hennessy is the godfather of the modern camping hammock, and in terms of quality of materials and craftsmanship you can't go wrong with HH. But they have a hard time keeping up with the times and innovating a little. Just look at how long it took them to come up with a zipper entrance instead of the awkward velcro slit, and it wasn't until enough users began putting a zipper on their hammocks, that Hennessy reluctantly gave in and added a Zip version. Another example, the suspension... how shall I put this 🤔... well, it's a piece of crap. I noticed you replaced yours with a daisy chain system. I changed mine to cinch buckles because of how frustrating it was for me to be tying and untying knots just to dial in my setup, whereas with cinch buckles or whoopie slings it's a matter of seconds. Then there's the insulation problem, just about anyone I know who's been a hanger for a few months has come to realize that underquilts are the way to go (short of buying a hammock with built-in insulation), and UQs have been around for almost 20 years at this point. You would think that by now Hennessy would've noticed the trend and come up with a system that perfectly matches their hammocks, but no, they're still stuck with the reflectix panel that kind of works, but kind of doesn't. Luckily now there are plenty of other options out there to choose from.
Thank you so much for watching the video and glad you got something out of it. I agree with your "rant" on HH adapting to changing consumer wants/needs however, I look at it more as an opportunity to innovate via MYOG. Hope you are enjoying your outdoor adventures.
I bought a cheaper, One Wind under quilt. Then cut a slit where the stake out cord can come through the quilt. I had my mother-in-law sew the edge of the slit opening, so it won’t rip. For me, it works very well. I usually don’t lay diagonally.
Thank you for watching and commenting. I really enjoy hearing how other people adapt and try out MYOG projects. Out of curiosity, since hammocks are essentially designed to lay in diagonally, why do you not lay that way? No judgement, just curious.
Hey Kevin. Thanks for the view & comments. I’m a huge fan of Warbonnet and think their UQs are well designed. Yes, the design of the Wooki & Yeti are good for asyms, but they are not as full coverage as this custom from Goose Feet. This means that you can lay in the custom literarily in any position with full coverage (not possible with other production UQs). Plus, this uses the HH undercover protector which creates a water/brush barrier to protect the down.
Thank you. It was a ton of fun to think it through. I think that is why I like backpacking so much…the prepping and problem solving is as much fun as the adventure itself.
Specificly which Hennessy hammock model did Goose Feet Gear make this underquilt to fit ? Will it fit the other asym models Hennessy offers? I have the Expedition asym zip and need a proper fitting underquilt without breaking the bank. I live in Canada and it's cold here. Thanks.
Good Morning Shyam and thanks for the question. The quilt was made using the Underquilt Protector #1 from HH, which fits the following models: Expedition, Backpacker, Hyperlite and Evader. The Underquilt Protector #2 fits the rest of the models. Of particular note is that Ben w/ Goose Feet Gear updated me the other day that he had actually made the UQ to a 0*F / -18*C rating which explains the higher costs and weight. I will update the video details to address this oversight. Hope you get out this winter for some snow camping!
Thanks for watching and offering the suggestion. I looked at the Potomac during my search but, I really wanted a down due to warmth-to-weight and compressibility factors. Otherwise, I probably would have gone with something line the Potomac.
Thank you for watching, I appreciate it. I am a huge fan of the Warbonnet Ridgerunner but, was unaware that they make an asym hammock or underquilt. I did a quick check and could not see the model you were looking for. What am I missing?
@@markvannorman3473 That is a great quilt from a great company. Yes, it does work with a diagonal lay. However, it is not an asymmetrical quilt. Regardless, if you use it with a gathered end hammock and lay on the diagonal, it works well enough (I have used one before). Thanks to the feedback, it is very appreciated.
Thanks for the comment, especially from someone with your fame! I've heard you (and the obviously more famous Backpacker Bob) on The Backpacking Podcast as well as your RUclips channel. Enjoy your content as well.
Hello Thomas. Awesome to hear from you...the Baltic Sea is on my bucket list for travels! Thanks for the reminder on the Fimbul Gear Twister underquilt. I had looked at this UQ, but noted that the insulation appeared to be only for the core with fabric that covered the rest of the hammock which is great for 2/3 season use. I wanted a 4-season UQ which meant that I needed full coverage and the Twister did not look like it offered that (at least that is what the images seemed to show). Beyond that, it looks like a great UQ for the HH. Hope all is well for you.
Good morning, thanks for watching and thanks for the question. This is a custom build so it is not for sale. However, you can get the undercover from Hennessy Hammock (hennessyhammock.com/) then send it off to Ben at Goosefeet Gear to have him make one for you (goosefeetgear.com/). Personally, I think it is worth the cost but, I'd recommend the tempature rating to be 15* to 20*F as this hammock is more of a three-season hammock and my 0*F underquilt is too warm for over half the year.
Thanks for watching. It is super warm which makes it perfect for the shoulder seasons. Keep in mind that this was a prototype; now that Goosefeet Gear has the pattern down, I am sure you could have one made for significantly less.
@@TZsHikingMyOwnHike that’s really good to know, I’m in Montana just got the four seasons a asym and for sure am in the market for one. What degree would you say you’ve been in it and stayed warm?
Comfortable down to 15* with a good 0* top quilt. Wind chill is not too much of a factor because the HH Undercover blocks most of it. If I do another iteration of this project, I am considering finding a Mylar sheet to apply to the undercover, then build the down quilt so that I could reduce/eliminate radiative heat loss as well as convective heat loss.
@@TZsHikingMyOwnHike yea that sounds like the ticket. Question, I’ve had an issue with setting the thing up proper consistently. Any advice on that topic?
Arrowhead Equipment makes an AFFORDABLE under quilt specifically for the Hennessy Hammock.
It’s called the Potomac. It is wonderful. I love my Hennessy.
Hard to knock Jack r Better, just letting people know there is another option.
Thanks for the post. 👍
Thanks for watching and commenting. I agree that the Arrowhead Potomac is a really good option but, it is a synthetic quilt. I am really kind of a “down fill” hanger for my top/bottom quilts simply for compressibility.
Nice video, thanks for sharing. Wish I'd seen it earlier. Warbonnet and Simply Light Designs have been making asym underquilts for years. SLD makes the Trail Winder (synthetic), and Warbonnet makes the Wooki (down).
Slightly unrelated, but Ben from Goosefeet Gear made me a custom down Anorak. He is an exceptional craftsman, and worked with me to meet my specifications.
I highly recommend this company.
Good morning, thanks for watching and thank you for commenting. I could not agree more!
The Spectre UQ from Little Shop of Hammocks is my fav.😊
Good morning, thanks for watching and thank you for commenting. Interesting information...I had never heard of LSH so thank you for bringing them to my attention. Looks like they have good gear. I checked out the Spectre UQ and think it is quality partial coverage UQ. The project I worked on with Goosefeet Gear (goosefeetgear.com/) was to make a very custom UQ for this particular hammock - which we accomplished.
While the symmetry hasn't been a big issue for me down to the temperatures I'm willing to endure, I appreciate learning about your solution. I'm fine with my Dutch Gear Chameleon hammock and Jacks R Better underquilts (I have two, one for colder weather or a second for my buddy). In fact in February 2023 JRB started selling a modular underquilt that zips right onto the modular Chameleon Hammock ($250-$280-$320, 40-20-0F, overstuffed 25%). BTW my solution to keeping warm is to put a Pinnacle Mercantile Authentic Military Woobie (poncho liner) above my ridge line and let it drape down over the side and I'm never cold with FBS and have a Therm-a-Rest NeoAir Xlite 8 ounce sleeping pad (20x47") that is the PERFECT length and warmth for a hammock! Happy Trails, Michael
Thanks for watching. All good insights and ideas. I've not heard about the new JRB modular underquilt you mentioned...what is the name of it?
Thanks for sharing. Looks like a nice solution for the asymmetrical hammocks, but the cost is prohibitive. I agree with you, with the plethora of gathered end asym hammocks out there, it is frustrating that there isn’t an equal plethora of asym UQs on the market.
Hello Gary. Thanks for the watching and the comments, I appreciate the feedback.
Yes, I also thought the cost (and weight) was a little on the high side until I heard from Ben w/ Goose Feet Gear the other day. He informed me that we had been going back and forth on temperature ratings I wanted and actually made the UQ to a 0*F / -18*C rating which explains the higher costs and weight. This was his first attempt at making an underquilt and for a custom UQ at a 0*F / -18*C rating, it is not too expensive. Assuming you want a higher temperature rating (and now that he has an idea of how to create the quilt), it may be a little more financially practical. Wouldn't hurt to reach out to him to discuss: ben@goosefeetgear.com.
That was a great video, thanks for sharing. You have to wonder why Hennessy themselves haven't figure that one out yet. I use different hammocks now, but still own several Hennessys, which I mostly loan out to friends when they come on my trips. Don't get me wrong, IMO Hennessy is the godfather of the modern camping hammock, and in terms of quality of materials and craftsmanship you can't go wrong with HH. But they have a hard time keeping up with the times and innovating a little. Just look at how long it took them to come up with a zipper entrance instead of the awkward velcro slit, and it wasn't until enough users began putting a zipper on their hammocks, that Hennessy reluctantly gave in and added a Zip version. Another example, the suspension... how shall I put this 🤔... well, it's a piece of crap. I noticed you replaced yours with a daisy chain system. I changed mine to cinch buckles because of how frustrating it was for me to be tying and untying knots just to dial in my setup, whereas with cinch buckles or whoopie slings it's a matter of seconds. Then there's the insulation problem, just about anyone I know who's been a hanger for a few months has come to realize that underquilts are the way to go (short of buying a hammock with built-in insulation), and UQs have been around for almost 20 years at this point. You would think that by now Hennessy would've noticed the trend and come up with a system that perfectly matches their hammocks, but no, they're still stuck with the reflectix panel that kind of works, but kind of doesn't. Luckily now there are plenty of other options out there to choose from.
Thank you so much for watching the video and glad you got something out of it. I agree with your "rant" on HH adapting to changing consumer wants/needs however, I look at it more as an opportunity to innovate via MYOG. Hope you are enjoying your outdoor adventures.
I bought a cheaper, One Wind under quilt. Then cut a slit where the stake out cord can come through the quilt. I had my mother-in-law sew the edge of the slit opening, so it won’t rip. For me, it works very well. I usually don’t lay diagonally.
Thank you for watching and commenting. I really enjoy hearing how other people adapt and try out MYOG projects. Out of curiosity, since hammocks are essentially designed to lay in diagonally, why do you not lay that way? No judgement, just curious.
@@TZsHikingMyOwnHike I kinda sleep in the fetal position on my back. I find it very comfortable.
@@michaelstudelska5607 Yeah, that is comfortable.
Aren't the Warbonnet UQs (Wooki, Yeti) designed for asymmetrical hammocks? Great video though!
Hey Kevin. Thanks for the view & comments.
I’m a huge fan of Warbonnet and think their UQs are well designed. Yes, the design of the Wooki & Yeti are good for asyms, but they are not as full coverage as this custom from Goose Feet. This means that you can lay in the custom literarily in any position with full coverage (not possible with other production UQs). Plus, this uses the HH undercover protector which creates a water/brush barrier to protect the down.
Thanx for sharing, just made a new subber. Im glad you took the steps to get this done for a Hennessy
Thank you. It was a ton of fun to think it through. I think that is why I like backpacking so much…the prepping and problem solving is as much fun as the adventure itself.
Specificly which Hennessy hammock model did Goose
Feet Gear make this underquilt to fit ? Will it fit the other asym models Hennessy offers?
I have the Expedition asym zip and need a proper fitting underquilt without breaking the bank. I live in Canada and it's cold here. Thanks.
Good Morning Shyam and thanks for the question. The quilt was made using the Underquilt Protector #1 from HH, which fits the following models: Expedition, Backpacker, Hyperlite and Evader. The Underquilt Protector #2 fits the rest of the models.
Of particular note is that Ben w/ Goose Feet Gear updated me the other day that he had actually made the UQ to a 0*F / -18*C rating which explains the higher costs and weight. I will update the video details to address this oversight.
Hope you get out this winter for some snow camping!
Arrowhead equipment potomac underquilt . Not a down quilt but fits good
Thanks for watching and offering the suggestion. I looked at the Potomac during my search but, I really wanted a down due to warmth-to-weight and compressibility factors. Otherwise, I probably would have gone with something line the Potomac.
@@TZsHikingMyOwnHike the enlightened equipment revolt 2 is a good fit aswel
Warbonnet has one
Thank you for watching, I appreciate it. I am a huge fan of the Warbonnet Ridgerunner but, was unaware that they make an asym hammock or underquilt. I did a quick check and could not see the model you were looking for. What am I missing?
@@TZsHikingMyOwnHike the wooki underquilt by warbonnet!
@@markvannorman3473 That is a great quilt from a great company. Yes, it does work with a diagonal lay. However, it is not an asymmetrical quilt. Regardless, if you use it with a gathered end hammock and lay on the diagonal, it works well enough (I have used one before). Thanks to the feedback, it is very appreciated.
That is a very cool hammock. Good review. New follower here. Crow
Thanks for the comment, especially from someone with your fame! I've heard you (and the obviously more famous Backpacker Bob) on The Backpacking Podcast as well as your RUclips channel. Enjoy your content as well.
Hi,
very intressting Design 👍
Fimbul Gear from Denmark makes also Underquilts for Hennessy Hammocks..........
Greetings from the baltic sea
Hello Thomas. Awesome to hear from you...the Baltic Sea is on my bucket list for travels!
Thanks for the reminder on the Fimbul Gear Twister underquilt. I had looked at this UQ, but noted that the insulation appeared to be only for the core with fabric that covered the rest of the hammock which is great for 2/3 season use. I wanted a 4-season UQ which meant that I needed full coverage and the Twister did not look like it offered that (at least that is what the images seemed to show). Beyond that, it looks like a great UQ for the HH.
Hope all is well for you.
Is this still available?
Good morning, thanks for watching and thanks for the question. This is a custom build so it is not for sale. However, you can get the undercover from Hennessy Hammock (hennessyhammock.com/) then send it off to Ben at Goosefeet Gear to have him make one for you (goosefeetgear.com/). Personally, I think it is worth the cost but, I'd recommend the tempature rating to be 15* to 20*F as this hammock is more of a three-season hammock and my 0*F underquilt is too warm for over half the year.
An under quit that costs 400$ better be comfortable 😂
Thanks for watching. It is super warm which makes it perfect for the shoulder seasons. Keep in mind that this was a prototype; now that Goosefeet Gear has the pattern down, I am sure you could have one made for significantly less.
@@TZsHikingMyOwnHike that’s really good to know, I’m in Montana just got the four seasons a asym and for sure am in the market for one. What degree would you say you’ve been in it and stayed warm?
Comfortable down to 15* with a good 0* top quilt. Wind chill is not too much of a factor because the HH Undercover blocks most of it.
If I do another iteration of this project, I am considering finding a Mylar sheet to apply to the undercover, then build the down quilt so that I could reduce/eliminate radiative heat loss as well as convective heat loss.
@@TZsHikingMyOwnHike yea that sounds like the ticket. Question, I’ve had an issue with setting the thing up proper consistently. Any advice on that topic?
Are you referring to the underquilt or the hammock itself? What exactly are the issues you are facing?