While I do agree with everything said in the video, gerbil, you still bought the episode pass and 7* Huyang… all of this stuff you’ve been discussing over the past week doesn’t mean much to cg because you paid for it. Are you going to do the same thing Nooch is doing which is no longer buying the pass? I’m not trying to be mean and I’m sorry if it sounds like I am!
Fair points. Those purchases were at the very launch of the update. Since then, I’ve had a lot of time to reflect, and now I do regret making them. I will be spending MUCH less going forward until CG addresses some of these issues more earnestly. Thank you for asking, you are not being mean. :)
Disagree but I get the point. As saying goes 'hindsight is 20/20'. There were too many little details were not immediately obvious. As we progressed those, depending your account, some of those little details became huge issues. One of those is the extremely limited quantity that can be brought along with the limited cap on episode currency. Feat incompletion is mine but not Gerbils. Yes, I brought the pass. So I have a long wait to see the opportunity cost of buying the pass or the kyro combat kit.
I'm FTP, and have enjoyed swgoh in cycles.... and I thank CG, as every time I'm thinking about spending money to support the game, CG do an update like this and I think 'ahhhh, thats why I don't spend money on Swgoh'!
Same situation here. Came back from a break and was very close to buying a LSB. Then CG messed up TB and screwed us out of rewards for a month or something crazy. No interest in supporting that.
In the old GC system, we had to work around the new teams or lesser used teams to get the gold crate. Now, CG says to meet the prior rewards, we have to complete the very feat we always had to work around before, while taking away two of the feats we used to work around that in the first place. Instead of 3 reliable feats, and 1 feat that is challenging, we now only have 1 reliable feat, one challening feat, and 2 impossible feats. That's just a double kick in the nuts.
I actually love conquest but other than that point, I totally agree with this video. Love being told, “oh you don’t spend hundreds of dollars on a 7 star character and you don’t buy the battle pass, guess you won’t be able to play previously accessible events (GCs) and by the way you won’t be able to get episode points either for rewards”
I think this is an update which has put a lot of long time players off, which is a real shame as they have been loyal customers for years! It changes something which never needed to be changed which has people confused.
Hey now! Great breakdown (always). I'm glad you're still doing vids even though they aren't as often. Although as frustrated as you sound, I fear you might be leaving for good sooner rather than later. I've been playing long enough now that my account is getting to be the size of an end game account. I'm needing to engage more with mod load outs and DCs more. I've been resistant to doing so for the very reasons you speak of. Those things are needed much more than what we got. What we didn't ask for. Sigh
Finally, someone mentions the opportunity cost. Are you sure you still want to spend money in this game, that you may no longer enjoy? I'm not. This one is the final draw. I want to spend money because this game is good and i ENJOY IT. If i don't enjoy the game, what's the reason we should spend money in this game. NO REASON AT ALL
then uninstall? like what? Make a big boy decision, instead of acting mad about the situation your in. If P2P players and their new deal bother you that much, then its time for you to leave or pay.
Your statement makes no sense: "This one is the final draw. I want to spend money because this game is good and i ENJOY IT. If i don't enjoy the game, what's the reason we should spend money in this game". People who normally spend money, love this deal. If you enjoyed it before and still didn't spend? Then you were never going to spend on this new update anyway. You aren't the demographic. This new opportunity cost is the EXACT REASON die-hard players want to spend. Because those players who have been spending and supporting the game (and not complaining) get the biggest jump on F2P than ever! There is your reason. Maybe you need to self-reflect and see if you even liked this game to begin with. good luck finding a new mobile game that is different.
It's so overly complicated, I'm back to not even bothering 😕 Losing ressource in exchange for peace of mind seem the most rational option for f2p/casual like me
❤Thank you! Finally one who brings up the layout problem! Each update I hope they finally rised the limit to 500 or at least 300. I need special mods for the raid. So I had to throw out chars just to get one single team. And then I find out I was deleting th ewron chars. I need their mods. This is so frustrating.
I notice that my crystals gains from Dailies is 50-25 less than used to be now i can't even triple refill energy like i used to. And as new player i dont like conquest is hard to complete those feats do to the lack of team comps now galactic challenge is in the same position. Before i was able to complete 2-4 feats now is just 1 feats for two fights only now my rewards are a huge joke now. August was great update that felt like 6 month packed in single week now it feels like they added 3 more years by reducing the rewards and now i think I won't ever be able to catch up. A huge qol i wish they do is add a new location or tab for assault battles that rotates per day this would be much appreciated as f2p.
Good Video. Keep on with that maybe CG will react if we all get on the dissapointed train. Btw i thought exactly the same when PO dropped. I'm a SW Freak an absolute Fan and i never heared about the PO 😂 PO = OP! No 7* needed. 3 or 4* ist okay early till mid game. And if you got it to 5* it's litary strong like a 7* Version. Even tough the 7* ist more tanky. And i'm so naiv to think the ud rly fix the fleet battle issue. But once agn CG just tried to melken us even more...
CG has a lot to learn from Clash of Clans (Supercell) if they want longevity success imo. COC listens to their players and releases updates that are well received like the one just rolled out.
@@hampter8992 I’m not talking about clash royal, but I understand your point from that game. I do however think that they managed to listen to their community for coc and deliver an excellent product
I agree with all of it. I really like your logical business perspective to analyzing the decisions CG is making. It’s a fresh perspective that I look forward to hearing more of.
And also give us more space on squads, at least I want that. 6 different phases in TB, TW off and def, Conquest. I like to have presets on all those. Another thing that seems weird is the starring system when they release a new toon. Either you get your 3 stars and are happy with that, you might also spend a few crystals and bump it up to 4 stars for the extra kyro rewards. But after that, why have all these rewards for every 5-10 shards extra between that and 7 stars? I mean, you either do the small investment or go all in, there’s no in between there. The same applies in GC. Or am I missing something here?
❤Thank you for this video. I specially love your apple story. What CG did will backfire. I am a 100% ftp player. I am not offended by the new pay-path. But whales do. And heavy whales quit the game just because of this. CG should go and check how many whales already quit just because of this. CG has to overthink their strategy. Whales whale because they want to not because they are forced to. If I would be a whale I would simply ignore the episode pass and the additional calendars. I would only buy what I need. And not some surprise parcles. This idea is so wrong.
That's how I've lost two omicrons this week in the Episode shop. At the very beginning I bought 20 shards of V Brother I need. It would still be enough to get more Episode tokens but I wont be able to get them because of the Episode Quest with completing 5 challenges in the GC because I'v already done them. And I have to wait for the next one with Jawas.. Thx CG for that and screw you. I won't get enough episode points to get more episode tokens to buy 2 omis before refresh.
Maybe just maybe instead of prioritizing shards for an accelerated character that you could have gotten for free in absolutely no time, especially considering that double drops are currently in the game, over the rarest resource in the game was a bad idea to begin with!!! You screwed yourself over, the world shouldn't have to hold your hand, your a big boy and you had to learn the hard way
@klentwright1971 oh smart guy 😏 Your big brain didn't think that there is the problem in the game when you start farming shards from Cantina Battles, you stop farming Signals. And you can't do both. And that's a good way to get those CB characters without stopping signal farm. It was my very first purchase for the Episode tokens. At that point when the update starts. I didn't even know anything about it or if I'm going to have enough of those tokens or not.
The biggest problem apart from all things already talked about regarding the update. Multiple accounts. I have a few accounts containing 17 GLs between them. They were easy to manage before and since the update I simply don't have the time to grow any apart from the main account. Yes you could say drop some accounts if you don't have time for them, but was never an issue before to manage them and they're all pretty well grown ranging from 5mil to almost 12mil. I can only try and keep up with one of the accounts now so the Omicrons will suffer when they never used to on the other accounts.
Wow!! I went nuts having 2 accounts and so I dropped my alt. I don't regret that choice, but I understand the challenges of having multiple accounts well. :(
@thegerbil23 When I had one account there wasn't enough to do other than the usual so made a second, then made a 3rd for ticket production. Over time they just grew. Unfortunately too far in to just abandon. The new update has ground them to a halt though.
Pull out while you can, I live in Argentina, stopped playing when it was becoming more of a job than a game. I was debating coming back - then all this nonsense and having to choose between food and a stupid game, food wins.
I agree with everything you said. Unfortunately, I just don't think CG is listening or cares. I bet the actual devs actually do care - they want to make a fun game (what salaried/hourly employee wants to implement all these paywalls?). The problem is I bet they have metrics that said this update would increase spending a little, and some manager decided that was worth the dev time, other opportunity costs be damned, because it'll look better on their quarterly earnings reports. The name of the game is building the "right" level of frustration to induce spending without people quitting, building in sunk costs that bait people into paying to "keep" what they have already been "given", obscuring everything behind several layers to remove people's cash spends from what they're actually receiving. Unfortunately that's what this game, and all like it, are designed to do. This is the biggest problem not just in this game, but in the tech sector more generally these days. Building a better product, investing in the future of the product and the company, just isn't worth the opportunity cost compared to fishing out a few more bucks this quarter so they land their bonuses. So yeah, I love what you said, and I hope someone pays enough attention to sneak in some actual quality of life into some future updates, but I'm not holding my breath.
If we want things to change we need to,as a community, nevere buy this pack. If they don't sell they won't come back (but it'll take time), or lower the price... Also for the challenge they could've leave the feats as they were and add the "whale" feats So.much missed opportunity
CGs behavior will not change until they see a drop in revenue. I don't spend a lot usually but I go hog on double drops. The release happening at the same time as double drops will make CG think, "see, they like it."
Personally the biggest issue surrounding this change is hard related to the galactic challenges themselves, in the old system when these very gated challenges like tuskens and rebel fighters came out, it wasn't a huge issue, as there were usually 2 easy feats like win the battle & gain stealth ECT, so even when you couldn't get the character one done, there was still a good chance you would get crate 8, and you would still get your 2 omi's per gc, what you would miss out on are the 10 Kyro pieces of teir 9 and the mod & gear pieces of geir 10. For my FTP account 7mil, not counting generic gear, I will be loosing at least 1 Omi a week and a bunch of kyro..... It is a net downgrade which is sad and like this current gc with tuskans I bet 95% of sub 5mil ftp accounts will get literally only the marquee points in teirs 1 &2 and that's it, even a hard one like, in the old system they would have got 1 Omi! It is such a terrible move for the lower gp accounts who aren't paying for the pass...
To put simply, this update is predatory. What happened to my sim events? Leviathan still an issue, gungans still get protection disruption in the raid. Where's my QoL?
The sim events are coming later. They were just not very clear about it. Needed some good news in the mountain of awful. Who knows if we ever even get them at this point. We were promised sim raids before and that never happened.
There is no way you need to budget your tokens. You don't progress fast enough as f2p to not have any token gains for next weeks. I have a pass and I still might be short of gaining tokens to spread them evenly between 4 weeks.
Respectfully, disagree. Several people have shared, even a few in these comments, that they lost out on buying omicrons already week 1 because they over spent in the first 2 or 3 days, then were unable to get the currencies due to various reasons. So yes, many people probably will need to budget.
@@thegerbil23 With all respect, if you don't do your dailys or don't spend your currency on most important things first that's on you not on a game, cuz no one of my guild mates who are f2p missed on Omis or kyros.(Edit: I was wrong here, the people who didn't manage to do much in GCs, which is understandable cuz they were niche missed on 1 omi)
I hate how it doesn't show what they cost after you buy them. I usually try and only buy omicrons and kyrotechs from that store so i know ill have enough in a week to buy them again. I'm curious I know other youtubers like nooch has his account where he spend each week on his account. in the past on average how much did you spend each week?
thats a weird take on punishing one, its not like the said 95% in the player base ever heard of sith fighter, or b28 bomber, or outrider, or even malgus ship :)
i still cant get over the point that we have left/right arrow buttons at the bottom of the screen for character, but at the top of the screen for ships, thats for inconvinient inconsistancy CG
The point is the P1 completely dominated meta and quickly became the most powerful single ship in the game. The Sith Fighter, Malgus, etc., don't have nearly that much individual impact on the game. Those units all work in tandem. However, to your point about obscurity, I've also said the same about many niche units and that what the vast majority of people want is to play with childhood characters they loved.... my generation that's OG content. For many other's is Prequels. etc.
@@thegerbil23 thats not actually true, try to remove malgus ship, or sith fighter, or b28 bomber from original levi lineup and test how well it will perform in mirrors for example, or against any other "GL" ship :) i am not defending p1 nor CG, but many characters and ships on goh doesnt occur on canon media whatsover, on the other hand some factions has low enough presence on canon media for CG to pull stuff from extended universe
Well said. Keep doing what you're doing. Ignore dbl standard comments. You're a content creator exploring the game and not here to be a role model for the "masses". You'e not afraid to reflect and learn. Not may others can do that. Solid work.
A lot of your complaints are totally valid but CG will totally ignore them because guess what? You opened your wallet anyway. And you'll continue to do it. And they know that. People have been calling the end of this game for so long, it's a bit silly to even mention it. I bet they launch a GAC pass next 😂
I don’t have a big problem with the update. I think everyone who is free to play should be happy that the people who spend a bit of money are having it made harder to pay to win and the people who spend big money should also be happy that it’s harder for those who only spend a bit to win as well. As for us who only spend a bit… we have a right to be upset, but should stay restrained… the light speed bundles are the great equalizer for us. The people who spend big money don’t really need them so don’t get to capitalize and the free to play dot get them either. So in the end, I do think they are screwing themselves by not trying to continue to get into our pockets by making this update a better deal but it’s also a good chance for us to take a breath and realize that if you’ve invested money into this thing that you love and plan to use it for a while, then understand that they control it in this way and it may not deserve your main attention as the game you play, even if it is the only video game you play. Might be time to find a better game and play this one a bit more AFK style with less attention
Ya, I see your perspective. It is rather nuanced huh? The constant reminders though of "you could've this if you just give us money" is in bad taste and does not help F2P people enjoy the game. :(
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. My assumptions about this update have been reaffirmed but most importantly you have shed new light on the issues at hand. I look forward to hearing more of your takes on swgoh issues.
CG is a tone deaf developer that only exists because they won the licensing lottery. Without the license this game would have been dead 8 years ago. Personally I am finding all these changes extremely tiresome. For a game that’s supposed to be fun it’s not very fun.
Your video is giving me mixed emotions. On the one hand I agree with you on your points to a large extent, but on the other hand, I'm in the minority that prefers budgeting and delayed gratification, I've always played that way (see my current 3K+ of each kyro 😆). So in effect this update has given me a competitive advantage in terms of my player psychology vs my opponents'. Let's definitely get those "real" QoL things you listed, those would be great.
I bought all past LS bundles, crystals and Cq pass. My act went from 2.5mil to 8.5mi in 18 months.... I now have concluded my first month w no SWGoH spendings, and not going back. There is no more joy in unlocking new squads for me. Only my guild keeps me in this game nowadays
Sorry you feel that way…. 4 videos back I published a very popular vid that was super positive about this update. I got a lot of people upset with me for it actually. 3 vids ago I published a video about getting the best value out of your crystals… so I don’t think I’m constantly complaining, maybe just the vids you have seen. That’s said, it’s hard to be positive with the state of the game right now. Regardless, thank you for the feedback and bravery to share your observations. :)
As always, I love your analyses. I do have one gripe though that I’ll probably get some flak for. I don’t understand the irritation behind GCs. It seems to result from one of two sources: not understanding that the rewards attached to GCs have been moved elsewhere, or not wanting to have to manage their resources. To whom it may apply: “CG is taking rewards away from us.” Uhh no. The rewards have been moved from GC (like we are used to) to the episode pass. “But that requires me to do my dailies everyday…” And? Those are the basics. If you’re not willing to do your dailies, you shouldn’t be expecting consistent rewards. “But it FEELS bad.” Yeah CG could have implemented it in a better way, but stop being led around by your feelings 24/7. Grow up and think logically for a minute. God forbid you need to manage your resources in a RESOURCE MANAGEMENT GAME.
It's a bit more than that. Before, if you did not have "Win with Jawas", for example, you could still get "Win the battle", or something else as you had 4 feats to explore. Now that 2 are literally paywalled, if you can't "Win with Jawas", odds are you can't get ANY of the feats. That just sucks. :(
@ Right, but my point with the transfer of rewards is that not being able to complete much of the new GC feats isn’t that impactful. Over the course of the month, missing those feats hardly amounts to anything in terms of rewards lost. The issue people are having is that it looks bad and it feels bad - both of which are true, but the fact of the matter is it’s not actually bad. Players are still stuck on how completing GCs makes them FEEL as opposed to the rewards they are actually getting.
The true hidden cost is being forced to spend energy on nodes you wouldn’t ever touch for feats that are stupid. No I don’t want to go to a node and kill GG or HK. Thanks a lot for making me have to use my precious energy on something useless for me.
Gerbil, 'I don't like this update', bought $200 crystal last video, bought 7* Huayang & battle pass this video. CG/EA, 'Gerbil loves us and our new update, let's do TW next'. Love you Gerbil but double standards.
No, I am a content creator and buy them for my channel and entertainment… also, I bought those crystals and such before I had time to process the updates effects. Check the timeline… update… immediate purchase…. 4 days pass while I think, chat with people, then report how I feel. That is not double standard, that is processing and learning, then reporting.
@@thegerbil23No matter what the justification or excuse, you are still part of the problem. Choosing to spend money is tacit acceptance of their tactics because the player bases power comes in the form of voting with their wallet. You may agree with the grumblings of proletariat but at the end of the day you are part of the bourgeoisie. You may be able to speculate what the ftp people experience is but you cannot relate with them. I think that is the double standard the person was alluding to.
If F2P gets what they use too, maybe stop worrying about what Pay 2Play players do/get. Pocket watching and forcing a game to keep F2P players closer to P2P is just stupid. I think all these content creators are making this whole thing bigger than it is. If the opportunity cost is so great, then its a good deal for those who want to spend. People didn't have this big of a fuss with the hyperdrive bundle. Its the same thing. Like come on.
Respectfully, I don't agree. This is very different than the Hyperdrive bundle or the Light Speed bundles. I'm down for anything that increases enjoyment, and desired engagement. This update, does not do either of those. The HDB is a 1 and done purchase, the Era update feels like a subscription plan. Very very different.
❤Thank you! Finally one who brings up the layout problem! Each update I hope they finally rised the limit to 500 or at least 300. I need special mods for the raid. So I had to throw out chars just to get one single team. And then I find out I was deleting th ewron chars. I need their mods. This is so frustrating.
While I do agree with everything said in the video, gerbil, you still bought the episode pass and 7* Huyang… all of this stuff you’ve been discussing over the past week doesn’t mean much to cg because you paid for it. Are you going to do the same thing Nooch is doing which is no longer buying the pass? I’m not trying to be mean and I’m sorry if it sounds like I am!
Fair points. Those purchases were at the very launch of the update. Since then, I’ve had a lot of time to reflect, and now I do regret making them. I will be spending MUCH less going forward until CG addresses some of these issues more earnestly. Thank you for asking, you are not being mean. :)
Disagree but I get the point. As saying goes 'hindsight is 20/20'. There were too many little details were not immediately obvious. As we progressed those, depending your account, some of those little details became huge issues. One of those is the extremely limited quantity that can be brought along with the limited cap on episode currency. Feat incompletion is mine but not Gerbils.
Yes, I brought the pass. So I have a long wait to see the opportunity cost of buying the pass or the kyro combat kit.
I'm FTP, and have enjoyed swgoh in cycles.... and I thank CG, as every time I'm thinking about spending money to support the game, CG do an update like this and I think 'ahhhh, thats why I don't spend money on Swgoh'!
Same situation here. Came back from a break and was very close to buying a LSB. Then CG messed up TB and screwed us out of rewards for a month or something crazy. No interest in supporting that.
An honest and straightforward analysis. I was 11.8m GP, 9 year player and quit a week ago for good. There’s my quality of life back.
Good points. I'm glad you didn't quit RUclips 😁
Great video! Appreciate the perspective
In the old GC system, we had to work around the new teams or lesser used teams to get the gold crate. Now, CG says to meet the prior rewards, we have to complete the very feat we always had to work around before, while taking away two of the feats we used to work around that in the first place. Instead of 3 reliable feats, and 1 feat that is challenging, we now only have 1 reliable feat, one challening feat, and 2 impossible feats.
That's just a double kick in the nuts.
I hear ya, it really feels like they messed up and took away some QoL without improving things. :(
I actually love conquest but other than that point, I totally agree with this video. Love being told, “oh you don’t spend hundreds of dollars on a 7 star character and you don’t buy the battle pass, guess you won’t be able to play previously accessible events (GCs) and by the way you won’t be able to get episode points either for rewards”
always great to see a gerbil vid... thx mate!
I think this is an update which has put a lot of long time players off, which is a real shame as they have been loyal customers for years! It changes something which never needed to be changed which has people confused.
Hey now! Great breakdown (always). I'm glad you're still doing vids even though they aren't as often. Although as frustrated as you sound, I fear you might be leaving for good sooner rather than later.
I've been playing long enough now that my account is getting to be the size of an end game account. I'm needing to engage more with mod load outs and DCs more. I've been resistant to doing so for the very reasons you speak of. Those things are needed much more than what we got. What we didn't ask for. Sigh
You're right, I've been a bit frustrated lately, but I'll keep making videos, and maybe look for more positive paths!! Thanks for the support!
@thegerbil23 that's bc you're awesome!
Finally, someone mentions the opportunity cost.
Are you sure you still want to spend money in this game, that you may no longer enjoy? I'm not. This one is the final draw. I want to spend money because this game is good and i ENJOY IT. If i don't enjoy the game, what's the reason we should spend money in this game.
NO REASON AT ALL
then uninstall? like what? Make a big boy decision, instead of acting mad about the situation your in. If P2P players and their new deal bother you that much, then its time for you to leave or pay.
Your statement makes no sense: "This one is the final draw. I want to spend money because this game is good and i ENJOY IT. If i don't enjoy the game, what's the reason we should spend money in this game". People who normally spend money, love this deal. If you enjoyed it before and still didn't spend? Then you were never going to spend on this new update anyway. You aren't the demographic. This new opportunity cost is the EXACT REASON die-hard players want to spend. Because those players who have been spending and supporting the game (and not complaining) get the biggest jump on F2P than ever! There is your reason. Maybe you need to self-reflect and see if you even liked this game to begin with. good luck finding a new mobile game that is different.
It's so overly complicated, I'm back to not even bothering 😕 Losing ressource in exchange for peace of mind seem the most rational option for f2p/casual like me
Couldn't agree more, thanks for the video teach
:) thank you! Love that you always call me teach! Haha
@thegerbil23 lol,learned a lot from you, so it's appropriate
❤Thank you! Finally one who brings up the layout problem! Each update I hope they finally rised the limit to 500 or at least 300. I need special mods for the raid. So I had to throw out chars just to get one single team. And then I find out I was deleting th ewron chars. I need their mods. This is so frustrating.
I totally agree!
I notice that my crystals gains from Dailies is 50-25 less than used to be now i can't even triple refill energy like i used to.
And as new player i dont like conquest is hard to complete those feats do to the lack of team comps now galactic challenge is in the same position.
Before i was able to complete 2-4 feats now is just 1 feats for two fights only now my rewards are a huge joke now.
August was great update that felt like 6 month packed in single week now it feels like they added 3 more years by reducing the rewards and now i think I won't ever be able to catch up.
A huge qol i wish they do is add a new location or tab for assault battles that rotates per day this would be much appreciated as f2p.
Good Video. Keep on with that maybe CG will react if we all get on the dissapointed train. Btw i thought exactly the same when PO dropped. I'm a SW Freak an absolute Fan and i never heared about the PO 😂 PO = OP! No 7* needed. 3 or 4* ist okay early till mid game. And if you got it to 5* it's litary strong like a 7* Version. Even tough the 7* ist more tanky. And i'm so naiv to think the ud rly fix the fleet battle issue. But once agn CG just tried to melken us even more...
CG has a lot to learn from Clash of Clans (Supercell) if they want longevity success imo. COC listens to their players and releases updates that are well received like the one just rolled out.
supercell is just as greedy if not worse, the death of clash royale is like the biggest fumble of mobile game history
@@hampter8992 I’m not talking about clash royal, but I understand your point from that game. I do however think that they managed to listen to their community for coc and deliver an excellent product
I agree with all of it. I really like your logical business perspective to analyzing the decisions CG is making. It’s a fresh perspective that I look forward to hearing more of.
Straight to the point! Thank you for your honest and true words!
And also give us more space on squads, at least I want that. 6 different phases in TB, TW off and def, Conquest. I like to have presets on all those.
Another thing that seems weird is the starring system when they release a new toon. Either you get your 3 stars and are happy with that, you might also spend a few crystals and bump it up to 4 stars for the extra kyro rewards. But after that, why have all these rewards for every 5-10 shards extra between that and 7 stars? I mean, you either do the small investment or go all in, there’s no in between there. The same applies in GC. Or am I missing something here?
❤Thank you for this video. I specially love your apple story. What CG did will backfire. I am a 100% ftp player. I am not offended by the new pay-path. But whales do. And heavy whales quit the game just because of this. CG should go and check how many whales already quit just because of this. CG has to overthink their strategy. Whales whale because they want to not because they are forced to. If I would be a whale I would simply ignore the episode pass and the additional calendars. I would only buy what I need. And not some surprise parcles. This idea is so wrong.
That's how I've lost two omicrons this week in the Episode shop. At the very beginning I bought 20 shards of V Brother I need. It would still be enough to get more Episode tokens but I wont be able to get them because of the Episode Quest with completing 5 challenges in the GC because I'v already done them. And I have to wait for the next one with Jawas.. Thx CG for that and screw you. I won't get enough episode points to get more episode tokens to buy 2 omis before refresh.
Maybe just maybe instead of prioritizing shards for an accelerated character that you could have gotten for free in absolutely no time, especially considering that double drops are currently in the game, over the rarest resource in the game was a bad idea to begin with!!! You screwed yourself over, the world shouldn't have to hold your hand, your a big boy and you had to learn the hard way
@@klentwright1971 ahah i know from your reaction this shit happend to u 😂pls stop acting like u so smart
thats on you, klent explained it perfectly
@klentwright1971 oh smart guy 😏
Your big brain didn't think that there is the problem in the game when you start farming shards from Cantina Battles, you stop farming Signals. And you can't do both. And that's a good way to get those CB characters without stopping signal farm. It was my very first purchase for the Episode tokens. At that point when the update starts. I didn't even know anything about it or if I'm going to have enough of those tokens or not.
@@ДРева-н1щ cantina farms are the easiest… literally just get it done asap and then do your signal data. Not hard
True... so true...
It's so funny a Battle passed moved from if you play you can get it for free to you don't get it if you don't pay
So bad...
Hey Gerbil !! Where is my Cantina energy ???? WTF !! This whole thing sux
The biggest problem apart from all things already talked about regarding the update.
Multiple accounts.
I have a few accounts containing 17 GLs between them.
They were easy to manage before and since the update I simply don't have the time to grow any apart from the main account.
Yes you could say drop some accounts if you don't have time for them, but was never an issue before to manage them and they're all pretty well grown ranging from 5mil to almost 12mil.
I can only try and keep up with one of the accounts now so the Omicrons will suffer when they never used to on the other accounts.
Wow!! I went nuts having 2 accounts and so I dropped my alt. I don't regret that choice, but I understand the challenges of having multiple accounts well. :(
@thegerbil23 When I had one account there wasn't enough to do other than the usual so made a second, then made a 3rd for ticket production. Over time they just grew.
Unfortunately too far in to just abandon. The new update has ground them to a halt though.
Pull out while you can, I live in Argentina, stopped playing when it was becoming more of a job than a game.
I was debating coming back - then all this nonsense and having to choose between food and a stupid game, food wins.
I agree with everything you said. Unfortunately, I just don't think CG is listening or cares. I bet the actual devs actually do care - they want to make a fun game (what salaried/hourly employee wants to implement all these paywalls?). The problem is I bet they have metrics that said this update would increase spending a little, and some manager decided that was worth the dev time, other opportunity costs be damned, because it'll look better on their quarterly earnings reports. The name of the game is building the "right" level of frustration to induce spending without people quitting, building in sunk costs that bait people into paying to "keep" what they have already been "given", obscuring everything behind several layers to remove people's cash spends from what they're actually receiving. Unfortunately that's what this game, and all like it, are designed to do.
This is the biggest problem not just in this game, but in the tech sector more generally these days. Building a better product, investing in the future of the product and the company, just isn't worth the opportunity cost compared to fishing out a few more bucks this quarter so they land their bonuses. So yeah, I love what you said, and I hope someone pays enough attention to sneak in some actual quality of life into some future updates, but I'm not holding my breath.
I think that's very likely all true. :(
Don't worry they will leave on holiday break soon and we can suck it for 2 months. By then we will be numb to these updates
If we want things to change we need to,as a community, nevere buy this pack. If they don't sell they won't come back (but it'll take time), or lower the price...
Also for the challenge they could've leave the feats as they were and add the "whale" feats
So.much missed opportunity
i completely stopped playing galactic challenges after this update
CGs behavior will not change until they see a drop in revenue. I don't spend a lot usually but I go hog on double drops. The release happening at the same time as double drops will make CG think, "see, they like it."
Personally the biggest issue surrounding this change is hard related to the galactic challenges themselves, in the old system when these very gated challenges like tuskens and rebel fighters came out, it wasn't a huge issue, as there were usually 2 easy feats like win the battle & gain stealth ECT, so even when you couldn't get the character one done, there was still a good chance you would get crate 8, and you would still get your 2 omi's per gc, what you would miss out on are the 10 Kyro pieces of teir 9 and the mod & gear pieces of geir 10. For my FTP account 7mil, not counting generic gear, I will be loosing at least 1 Omi a week and a bunch of kyro..... It is a net downgrade which is sad and like this current gc with tuskans I bet 95% of sub 5mil ftp accounts will get literally only the marquee points in teirs 1 &2 and that's it, even a hard one like, in the old system they would have got 1 Omi! It is such a terrible move for the lower gp accounts who aren't paying for the pass...
Don’t forget that if you use the shard store often, you’re missing out on shard currency-and now they’ve closed up fleet battles for bonus shards.
To put simply, this update is predatory.
What happened to my sim events?
Leviathan still an issue, gungans still get protection disruption in the raid. Where's my QoL?
The sim events are coming later. They were just not very clear about it. Needed some good news in the mountain of awful. Who knows if we ever even get them at this point. We were promised sim raids before and that never happened.
There is no way you need to budget your tokens. You don't progress fast enough as f2p to not have any token gains for next weeks. I have a pass and I still might be short of gaining tokens to spread them evenly between 4 weeks.
Respectfully, disagree. Several people have shared, even a few in these comments, that they lost out on buying omicrons already week 1 because they over spent in the first 2 or 3 days, then were unable to get the currencies due to various reasons. So yes, many people probably will need to budget.
i might have missed understood your point... i'll think about it. :)
@@thegerbil23 With all respect, if you don't do your dailys or don't spend your currency on most important things first that's on you not on a game, cuz no one of my guild mates who are f2p missed on Omis or kyros.(Edit: I was wrong here, the people who didn't manage to do much in GCs, which is understandable cuz they were niche missed on 1 omi)
Yup…….just…….yup
I hate how it doesn't show what they cost after you buy them. I usually try and only buy omicrons and kyrotechs from that store so i know ill have enough in a week to buy them again. I'm curious I know other youtubers like nooch has his account where he spend each week on his account. in the past on average how much did you spend each week?
thats a weird take on punishing one, its not like the said 95% in the player base ever heard of sith fighter, or b28 bomber, or outrider, or even malgus ship :)
i still cant get over the point that we have left/right arrow buttons at the bottom of the screen for character, but at the top of the screen for ships, thats for inconvinient inconsistancy CG
The point is the P1 completely dominated meta and quickly became the most powerful single ship in the game. The Sith Fighter, Malgus, etc., don't have nearly that much individual impact on the game. Those units all work in tandem. However, to your point about obscurity, I've also said the same about many niche units and that what the vast majority of people want is to play with childhood characters they loved.... my generation that's OG content. For many other's is Prequels. etc.
@@thegerbil23 thats not actually true, try to remove malgus ship, or sith fighter, or b28 bomber from original levi lineup and test how well it will perform in mirrors for example, or against any other "GL" ship :)
i am not defending p1 nor CG, but many characters and ships on goh doesnt occur on canon media whatsover, on the other hand some factions has low enough presence on canon media for CG to pull stuff from extended universe
Well said. Keep doing what you're doing. Ignore dbl standard comments. You're a content creator exploring the game and not here to be a role model for the "masses". You'e not afraid to reflect and learn. Not may others can do that. Solid work.
Thanks! I’m not a role model, but I appreciate the support. LOL LOL
Wow I was trying to bring this up in other channels and finally You brought it up! Thank you, thank you :)
No problem! :) :)
Totally agree with everything. ❤ Best wishes
A lot of your complaints are totally valid but CG will totally ignore them because guess what? You opened your wallet anyway. And you'll continue to do it. And they know that.
People have been calling the end of this game for so long, it's a bit silly to even mention it. I bet they launch a GAC pass next 😂
I don’t have a big problem with the update. I think everyone who is free to play should be happy that the people who spend a bit of money are having it made harder to pay to win and the people who spend big money should also be happy that it’s harder for those who only spend a bit to win as well.
As for us who only spend a bit… we have a right to be upset, but should stay restrained… the light speed bundles are the great equalizer for us. The people who spend big money don’t really need them so don’t get to capitalize and the free to play dot get them either.
So in the end, I do think they are screwing themselves by not trying to continue to get into our pockets by making this update a better deal but it’s also a good chance for us to take a breath and realize that if you’ve invested money into this thing that you love and plan to use it for a while, then understand that they control it in this way and it may not deserve your main attention as the game you play, even if it is the only video game you play. Might be time to find a better game and play this one a bit more AFK style with less attention
Ya, I see your perspective. It is rather nuanced huh? The constant reminders though of "you could've this if you just give us money" is in bad taste and does not help F2P people enjoy the game. :(
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. My assumptions about this update have been reaffirmed but most importantly you have shed new light on the issues at hand.
I look forward to hearing more of your takes on swgoh issues.
Gerbil on point.
CG is a tone deaf developer that only exists because they won the licensing lottery. Without the license this game would have been dead 8 years ago. Personally I am finding all these changes extremely tiresome. For a game that’s supposed to be fun it’s not very fun.
That is true. What else do these "devs" have? Look at how badly they messed up HOME. EA getting Star Wars did all the work for them.
Not defending them, but we did just win our battle with CG over assault battles. :) LOL so they do listen, just not a lot I think.
Your video is giving me mixed emotions. On the one hand I agree with you on your points to a large extent, but on the other hand, I'm in the minority that prefers budgeting and delayed gratification, I've always played that way (see my current 3K+ of each kyro 😆). So in effect this update has given me a competitive advantage in terms of my player psychology vs my opponents'.
Let's definitely get those "real" QoL things you listed, those would be great.
I have always admired players who take the long view, it’s a great approach, and not one that many of us handle as well. Kudos to you my friend! :)
Could not agree more!!!!!
I bought all past LS bundles, crystals and Cq pass. My act went from 2.5mil to 8.5mi in 18 months.... I now have concluded my first month w no SWGoH spendings, and not going back. There is no more joy in unlocking new squads for me. Only my guild keeps me in this game nowadays
That is a feeling I see shared a lot these days.
You are now in burnout mode with constant complaining. Take a 3 month break from the game and reevaluate things.
Sorry you feel that way…. 4 videos back I published a very popular vid that was super positive about this update. I got a lot of people upset with me for it actually. 3 vids ago I published a video about getting the best value out of your crystals… so I don’t think I’m constantly complaining, maybe just the vids you have seen. That’s said, it’s hard to be positive with the state of the game right now. Regardless, thank you for the feedback and bravery to share your observations. :)
As always, I love your analyses. I do have one gripe though that I’ll probably get some flak for. I don’t understand the irritation behind GCs. It seems to result from one of two sources: not understanding that the rewards attached to GCs have been moved elsewhere, or not wanting to have to manage their resources.
To whom it may apply:
“CG is taking rewards away from us.” Uhh no. The rewards have been moved from GC (like we are used to) to the episode pass.
“But that requires me to do my dailies everyday…” And? Those are the basics. If you’re not willing to do your dailies, you shouldn’t be expecting consistent rewards.
“But it FEELS bad.” Yeah CG could have implemented it in a better way, but stop being led around by your feelings 24/7. Grow up and think logically for a minute. God forbid you need to manage your resources in a RESOURCE MANAGEMENT GAME.
It's a bit more than that. Before, if you did not have "Win with Jawas", for example, you could still get "Win the battle", or something else as you had 4 feats to explore. Now that 2 are literally paywalled, if you can't "Win with Jawas", odds are you can't get ANY of the feats. That just sucks. :(
@ Right, but my point with the transfer of rewards is that not being able to complete much of the new GC feats isn’t that impactful. Over the course of the month, missing those feats hardly amounts to anything in terms of rewards lost. The issue people are having is that it looks bad and it feels bad - both of which are true, but the fact of the matter is it’s not actually bad. Players are still stuck on how completing GCs makes them FEEL as opposed to the rewards they are actually getting.
The true hidden cost is being forced to spend energy on nodes you wouldn’t ever touch for feats that are stupid.
No I don’t want to go to a node and kill GG or HK. Thanks a lot for making me have to use my precious energy on something useless for me.
Gerbil, 'I don't like this update', bought $200 crystal last video, bought 7* Huayang & battle pass this video. CG/EA, 'Gerbil loves us and our new update, let's do TW next'. Love you Gerbil but double standards.
No, I am a content creator and buy them for my channel and entertainment… also, I bought those crystals and such before I had time to process the updates effects. Check the timeline… update… immediate purchase…. 4 days pass while I think, chat with people, then report how I feel. That is not double standard, that is processing and learning, then reporting.
@@thegerbil23No matter what the justification or excuse, you are still part of the problem. Choosing to spend money is tacit acceptance of their tactics because the player bases power comes in the form of voting with their wallet.
You may agree with the grumblings of proletariat but at the end of the day you are part of the bourgeoisie. You may be able to speculate what the ftp people experience is but you cannot relate with them. I think that is the double standard the person was alluding to.
If F2P gets what they use too, maybe stop worrying about what Pay 2Play players do/get. Pocket watching and forcing a game to keep F2P players closer to P2P is just stupid. I think all these content creators are making this whole thing bigger than it is. If the opportunity cost is so great, then its a good deal for those who want to spend. People didn't have this big of a fuss with the hyperdrive bundle. Its the same thing. Like come on.
Respectfully, I don't agree. This is very different than the Hyperdrive bundle or the Light Speed bundles. I'm down for anything that increases enjoyment, and desired engagement. This update, does not do either of those. The HDB is a 1 and done purchase, the Era update feels like a subscription plan. Very very different.
200 loadouts seems good to me. :) #reducegerbilsloadouts
Har har!!! LOL
❤Thank you! Finally one who brings up the layout problem! Each update I hope they finally rised the limit to 500 or at least 300. I need special mods for the raid. So I had to throw out chars just to get one single team. And then I find out I was deleting th ewron chars. I need their mods. This is so frustrating.
I totally agree!