Dragonball Z Abridged Creator Commentary | Cooler's Revenge
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2023
- The guys sit down and discuss what happens when Cooler returns to have his revenge...for the first time.
Cooler's Revenge:
• DragonBall Z Abridged ... 
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Thanks for correcting us that the "Tonight, I dine on turtle soup!" line. It's apparently from Episode 5 of the 80s cartoon!
A hats off we must give, to the nitpickers of the world.
For the record, I LOVE Cooler coming out and saying "and that is the history of my family!" It's such an undercut, and I think it lands pretty good
@handgun559 me too! and if they would want a reason to write it in that's canonical, they could call back to Goku's use of telepathy like in Saiyan Saga
I like the joke. It's amazing. But the Diddy and donkey joke just works better
@@thelastwindwaker7948
I knew it from the SNES game.
hot take, I think "and that is the history of my family" is significantly funnier precisely *because* they are underwater for so little time
-R
Its just overall good.
BTW Mythology Nerds, whats up whit the Fish granting you a Wish? Is there a Folk Tale about it?
I saw a few Jokes about that, but I could never figure out the Origin. Was even in Timon and Pumba the Cartoon...
@@Sunaki1000 There's a Grimm Fairy tale as well as Japanese folklore and a few other cultural tales of it honestly i think humans really just like the idea of a wish granting fish.
Happy to see these two are also dbza fans
Edit: or at least R
@@Sunaki1000 it's a joke I've heard a few times over my 21 years of living idk what the source is
Agreed.
“You were taken before your time” hits so differently now 😢
Seriously, my mind went straight to how different it will forever be.
Came here to look for this comment. I hope he is somewhere teaching a dinosaur to ride a ball.
#FLYHIGHTORIYAMA
I was going to say....
@@jesselindsey9760 he passed away this year.
The Toriyama bit hits even harder now. RIP.
Was going to leave a comment on that, you beat me to it.
RIP Akira Toriyama.
"Toriyama, no! You were taken before your time!"
He was. He really was....
“Hello Diddy, where’s Donkey?” Is definitely a better line, especially because they already called Goku a monkey.
It’s also just funnier this French alien knows what donkey Kong is more so than a reference to the wings of Icarus legend
@@daltonwilliams1723 Space Nintendo Online
And Gohan has a tail in this movie and is smaller like Diddy while Goku don't have a tail and is bigger like Donkey, so it sorta fits.
Honestly, I did not get this at all since I watched it when it was released and just thought that they were referencing Shrek, but recently I finally put it together that it was supposed to be a Donkey Kong reference.
Coulda had both. Make Gohan say, "Maybe we shouldn't fly so high icarus." and you don't have to change anything with the Donkey Kong line.
Goku fantasizing about Chi Chi cooking his breakfast is one of the single best jokes in the entire show.
i love the subtle dig, that ChiChi isnt "my wife" to him, shes "the beautiful lady who lives in my house"...somewhat ties in with DBSuper's (rather ridiculous) side-joke about Goku not knowing what Kissing is, after seeing Bulma and Vegeta do it...but i just like how Innocent it is-- like he just assumes that Everyone's house has a beautiful lady inside, to pour maple syrup all over food ("i just always assumed she came with the refrigerator or the stove, like when your burger comes with fries" kinda logic)
Wow low bar lol
@@rtyuik7 right? It works past the surface joke. Fantasizing about food shows his pure heart (especially after the not pure hearted Krillin’s dream with Icarus), and not understanding Chi-Chi’s role in his life tracks with how he ended up marrying her in the first place.
@ColinKSU "you wanna get Married? yeah okay sure, ive never eaten Married before, but it sounds delicious!"
Goku spends a lot more time thinking about ChiChi and her feelings (or cooking skills in this case) when she's not on-screen in DBZA than the original, I swear.
I love the implication that if Salza is Jeice's cousin that they all just come from a whole family of Space Stereotypes.
Salza was space adopted
Which is why I’m sure Doori is from Space England with his Space Cockney accent.
Welcome to Space Earth.
Now with open Space bar.
@@marinermanSpace London, somehow it's own dwarf planet.
Space Mexico too.
19:08
I love the implication in this line.
"I've been called many things, my favourite is Whiskers the wonder cat."
He's not giving Goku his true name, just his personal favorite of what others have called him, and I find that hilarious. The delivery is so straight laced, but it's the sort of thing I can see him just... bursting out laughing once Goku leaves.
The Italian dub calls him "Balzar"
I choose to believe Roshi came up with that one
"I'mma plant me a Dumbass tree" is one of my favorate villain's line
It's the sole reason I play Bowser and Incineroar in smash, so I can plant dumbass trees-
OH MY GOD I CAN DO IT WITH DK AND MAKE IT MORE META!-
-Yes, I have returned, Dumbass
-"Goku"
-*DUMBASS*
If Cooler ever becomes canon, it would be so poetic if Guerrero was the one who got to voice him. Just to bring things full circle.
They did bring Takahata for one of the voices for xenoverse 2, and Guerrero is more official voice acting now. Definitely could be possible now
If anything ever happens with Cooler's current official VA?
I feel like Cooler could be canon if they played it like Broly in Super. Freezer is probably the most iconic Villain in all of Dragon Ball that stays a full Villain, so it could be a good segway into Cooler from Freezer, if you have something to differentiate Cooler more from Freezer. That final form is my favourite non Sayain transformation.
It would but dang Toei would have to really be chill (even though Chris has becomes established in the professional circuit thus far)
@@ZainIsInPain Nick and Scott were also voices in the game
Rip Toriyama, I’m so glad to have been a part of this community and have him to thank, fly high and teach a dinosaur to ride a ball❤️
To this day, Cooler flying directly through Goku's Kamehameha and punching him is the coolest power display ever shown in Dragon Ball.
Second is probably that scene with Kefla
@@djroscurro9859 Kamehameha slide?
@@dylanb659 yeah that one
Dude flew through a Kaioken Kamehameha. Chilling.
Broly tanking the kamehame ha is crazy too
Definitely "Hello Diddy, where's Donkey?"
It works with Freeza and Cooler referring to the saiyans as monkeys.
I think this one is much better too. The "Icarus" version seems like it would have been forced. Maybe in practice it could have worked, but whenever Kaiser brings it up I feel quite unimpressed by it. I also prefer that he's addressing Gohan, the person, as opposed to Icarus, the animal. One of these is more important than the other.
119th'ed
@@leakyboat224 I'm inclined to agree. There might be some workshopping that could improve it over the pitch (e.g. for a start, "'allo, kid, Icarus; flying too etc. etc."), but even then I'd say the concept feels like it has a little too much going against it in this context, especially weighed against what they ultimately chose.
It's an obvious joke that feels forced from no pressure other than "I have a character that is / is named _______, so I'm compelled to do ______" if they had went with Kaiser's joke it would've been eye roll inducing while the Diddy/Donkey joke isn't GREAT makes more sense with the characters.
Maybe a short Gohan line about flying too close to the sun could have worked while falling lol
With how many times Piccolo tells Gohan to "DODGE!", it makes sense that Gohan thinks "You know what to do" means "Get out of the way"
I might be in the minority here but "By the end of this, SOMEONE'S corpse is gonna be tied to the bumper of my ship" is my favorite Cooler line.
It’s metal af
That one's good, but my favorite is, "Ah, look at you-- wasted and gasping for air... But you don't get to go yet. Once your planet is in ashes... *then, you have my permission to die.*" lmao even if it's a reference it's too badass
“Flying too close to the sun, boy?” And since Gohan cries out for Icarus, it makes the bit work.
Yeah he could have heard Gohan say icarus
Then a guitar riff from Carry On My Wayward Son plays as Icarus falls.
Besides, Diddy is Donkey Kong's nephew, not his son.
Yeah, not so many opportunities to say that line. I think there’s be more opportunities for the Diddy Donkey line.
objectively wrong
"I'mma plant me a dumbass tree!" is easily one of my top three favorite lines in DBZA.
High in vitamin dumbass with the super saiyan soup is my top favorite funny enough it was Frieza who said it
"oh my God, you can grind meat on it, baahh" is one for me.
Nick: "Kaiser, explain!"
Scott: _"He's a wonder cat~"_
Whiskers the Wonder cat!
"TORIYAMA, NO! YOU WERE TAKEN BEFORE YOUR TIME!"
Me: "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭"
Because Lani asked for the calc, here it is:
In the original Revenge of Cooler, it takes about 27 or 28 seconds for him to reach the sun. We'll average that to 27.5 seconds. The distance between the Sun and Earth is 92.528 million miles. We'll round that to 92.5 million miles. To cross the distance of 92.5 million miles in 27.5 seconds, the Kamehameha would have to be moving 3425925.92593 miles per second. We will round _that_ to 3425926 miles per second. Divide that by 60, and you get 57098.7666667 miles per hour. Which should translate to about 8.5 times the speed of light.
Because of the shorter nature of DBZA, this is significantly faster than 8.5 times light speed. But I provided the math and the base calculations. So someone else can calc the speed of the Kamehameha in DBZA.
~21 seconds in the DBZA version
If it’s miles per second, mutiplying by 60 would make it miles per minute. You’d have to mutiply by 3600 to get mph.
Even then, lightspeed is ~300 million m/s and he’s going about 150 billion meters in about 20 seconds, giving us at least 7.5 billion m/s. He’s going about 25 times lightspeed in Abridged
I know this is 10 months old but wouldn't you multiply by 60?
I came up with 16.7 Bil/mph with some rough 20 second math.
Thank you for your service I did not want to have to do that math
I’m sure Kaiser & lani credited me for the dumbass tree line!
Lol, I would never doubt that was your joke Taka.
They didn't but glad you made it
Only because it was self evident
We all love you for it
Hold on, if Bulma's last name in Evolutions is Enchanto, doesn't this technically mean that her name roughly translates to Enchanted Panties?
Puts into perspective of Oolong's most comfortable pair of underwear.
Enchanties
Enchanted Bloomers actually.
Honestly, not that much worse than just Panties lol
@@jamesmuise2499 s. X
Toriyama actually had multiple self inserts that he would use for off panel sections (such as Author's Notes) or just directly adding it into his manga (and sometimes the anime)
His most prominent one was Tori-Bot, a robot who is neighbors with Arale Norimaki and is writing a manga that his editor is not very pleased with. Tori-Bot also made several cameos in Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball Super, and even Dragon Ball Heroes. The most prominent cameo was in Z, where Krillin breaks the fourth wall saying that the artist reused the panels of Gotenks trying to fuse, with Tori-Bot appearing and saying the editor doesn't have to pay him for those pages.
However before Tori-Bot, Toriyama's self insert was an anthropomorphic bird who was also struggling to write manga, both due to lack of experience and the fact it's really hard for him to hold a pen, considering it is bigger than he is.
So the Toriyama joke has layers upon layers upon even more layers.
Huge if true!
Tori-bot also shows up in the videogame "Blue Dragon" as a merchant.
39:02
A moment of silence, because that joke is now accurate
Fly high, Sensei
Honestly, I think the Icarus reference could've worked if Salza had just said "Flying a bit close to a sun, are we?" without needing to specifically name drop Icarus.
I thought the same! But I do enjoy the Diddy and Donkey jokes since it sort of references that Goku and Gohan are (half-)Saiyans, plus Gohan has a tail in this movie while Goku don't.
yeah for me the thing with that line was that it's a bit long for appearing out of nowhere dropping the “Hello Icarus” helps (also kind of loops back at the end and deals with Salza not knowing Icarus' name)
I also agree. Plus, why would Salza have preexisting knowledge of human Greek mythology (other than there being the obvious potential existence of Space Greek mythology)?
@@Malysitos Why does he have pre-existing knowledge of Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong?
@@Pirateking536 Because of the Space Donkey Kong Country games, of course
“Not going anywhere for a while? *Grab a snickers* “
-peak MasakoX line delivery 👏👏
Equal to: I'm going to break you... Like a kit Kat bar
Masako was killing it in this movie. Like he's always great, but a few lines really stand out in this one.
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: Chris Guerrero is actually my dream casting for if we ever get Moro animated and dubbed. Like I absolutely read the manga with his voice in my head for that character.
I agree and I feel like he can definitely pull it off
He's mine too
Honestly seeing this I also want that now. Hes an amazing voice actor
Ooooh Guerrero as Moro would be perfect.
Guerrero doing a scottish accent would be perfect
the toriyama bird bit now hits different
I think its sweet that Goku puts Krillin above his two emergency foods in priority.
The Toriyama was taken before his time, line hits harder now
Yeah, it does 😢
More ironic then anything really
"Toriyama, no! You were taken before your time."
That line hits way harder now.
I really appreciate Lani asking people to stop telling reactors to turn on the Canadian subs every single time
Eh now, I’m Canadian and that makes me a bit slooooow so I need da real subs just to understand the space monkey fights doncha know, eh
Aboot
Yeah, Its great seeing Lani always show up in the comments of a lot of reaction videos. I agree! canadian subs should be for a 2nd+ viewing (I personally don't find the subs to be than funny anyways)
@@MaxiemumKarnage "What-if Goku dies from being unable to afford a doctor in the current American Healthcare system" would work too lol
What If Goku got euthanized by Canadian Healthcare?
The amount of times I’ve used the “somebody better pick up that phone” line irl is far too many to remember 😂😂😂
An individual of culture I see
I hate how I have had to explain that joke 4 times in my life, and now anytime the people I've told the joke to predicts something, WE ALL QUOTE IT.
Other day, I was experiencing dejon mustard, and I realized what was happening and my mom was ordering food, and I predicted pizza from a place outta town we love, and I said, "ooh ordering Dave's?" She said yea, and, you all know the line.
It's so goddamn versatile. I've been using it for years.
@@logicaloverdrive8197 I get groans from friends every time I say it.
I live for it now.
"You must be ice cold!"
"No, that would be my father"
The way it is written is kind of a throwaway gag but the way the line is delivered implies at least a strained relationship with King Cold.
Man I would kill see Cooler, King Cold and Freeza together in HFIL.
Good news my dude
GUESS. WHAT. BOTH OF THEM ARE IN HFIL AND THEY ARE HAVING A GODDAMN TOURNAMENT ARC!!!
Shenron: “Your wish is granted”
> but the way the line is delivered implies at least a strained relationship with King Cold.
I'd believe it, prolly resents his father for his favouritism towards freeza
Rest In Peace Toriyama. You were a legend
I think the Icarus joke could have been done by Gohan telling Goku after they get back. “Where is Icarus?” “He flew too close to the sun, dad.” “No! Not my emergency food!”
Note for the editor: I love that you're not just cutting in and out of the episode and cutting back to see things again but also cutting in other stuff that some of us might not have seen before for added context. I've never heard that Korin and Yajirobe skit before and it has me absolutely howling. Wonderful work, keep it up.
Ngl, it was romantic af
Got some Twitter love. Grats!
Good call, the editor has been on point for these so far
As one of the writers for the Canadian subs seeing them recognized made me VERY happy
The one thing I'm sad is that Broly movie no longer Has its Canadian subs, I remeber seeing it years ago but had no clue what happened to it
38:51 A moment that hits so much harder now
RIP Akira Toriyama
We know it didn't age well
I *still* use '*IMA PLANT ME A DUMBASS TREE*' when I'm talking shit in games. One of your most brilliant lines and one of the best deliveries of the series.
That line made me wish even harder that DBFZ would have had TFS voices as an option. I would have paid like $20 for that. Not even close to joking.
i’ve found myself quoting dbza moments in what could just be playing certain game randomly, like the “he couldn’t quite tolerate my dulcid tones,my choice in venacular!- and my particular method of… ar-tee-cu-la-tion…” while playing mario odyssey in october lol.
@@penismightier9278 I wanted the DBZA mod for Kakarot SOOOO BADDDD
If it wasn’t for Toei, we probably would’ve gotten that option.
@@EWOODJ SUNSABITCHES NEED TO GET OFF THIS TRAIN.
How MANY GODDAMN TIMES has t4s won this argument? Lawsuits? etc? They keep shrieking this. they've lost EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. because Team Four Star and DBZA Are STILL FUCKIN HERE. 15 years. FIFTEEN YEARS. GIVE IT THE FUCK UP.
Like I said in the previous upload, God, I love this movie. Some of my favorite lines/jokes are the “Imma kill it” convo and “IMMA PLANT ME A DUMBASS TREE!”
Hands down the best moments.
The fact that those lines became huge memes in the DBFZ scene too after Cooler was dropped as a DLC character was great
"I hope somebody picked up the phone because I called it" is the line from this show I use most in my every day life
Guerrero’s voice is downright iconic. I legit recognized him in Overlord and Genshin, just didn’t believe it was him.
Who does he play genshin?
@@otakuwannbe4387he plays matsuura, and a more minor character named junpei
One thing I loved about the way you guys wrote cooler was the fact that in Anime if you don't see the body, they are alive. Cooler knows this and wants to make sure they are dead as all dead can be
And it ties up well with his brother complex. Freeza was sloppy about erasing the sayians, so Cooler wants to be damn sure he does the job better than his little brother.
I always felt that the "story of my family" joke was a commentary on writers shoving new characters into someone else's canon with ridiculous backstories delivered in exposition dumps. It's a short movie/fanfic, and they need to make us a) take the character seriously, and b) cut us off from asking "If this character is so awesome and important, why haven't we heard of them before?"
Cooler's so damned efficient that he gets all that out of the way in a few seconds, and without bothering viewers who clearly won't care anyway.
Does give the idea of him being a no nonsense guy by giving the clipnotes of his family. I also like to think je knows how his and frieza’s race reproduce
Back by
I just think it's funny bc they had the whole conversation while under water so we couldn't hear it
Kaiser's joke even has a precedent. Gohan literally just said Icarus right before the joke
Ah, I've been binge watching this after the death of Akira Toriyama and I just got to the "Toriyama no! You were taken before your time!" And now I made myself sad.
Zoro's name was actually "Zoro" in the Viz manga when they began printing it, but once the 4Kids dub of the anime came out Viz changed it to "Zolo" for consistency. There were only four volumes out by this time, so they went back for the newer printings and changed his name to "Zolo." When the 4Kids dub was cancelled and Funimation began working on their dub, Viz was already 14 volumes in. By the time "Zoro" was used in Funimation's uncut dub, the English manga by Viz was already 17 volumes in which leads me to believe at this point they've just stuck with "Zolo" for consistency ever since.
@markdisalvi1487 They actually fixed some of the names of the Blackbeard pirates in their most recent appearance. Like getting the horse's name correct as "Stronger". Probably got away with it because he'd only been name dropped once twentyh years ago.
You're 100% right. I think though the only reason why Viz never changed back to Zoro in recent times is because it would supposedly be too expensive to reprint millions of copies of near 100 volumes for one name change. Or they're just too lazy to do it.
Trademark and copyright wise Coola, is a lime flavoured cordial in Australia... its the companies No1 selling flavour since 1960s. They maliciously defended it and the recipe is now owned by one of those big brand conglomerates Asashi Breweries
When he cut off Catherine zetas clothes made me feel funny in my pants for the first time. It was such a relief as my progressive parents really wanted me to be gay to show off to to their high society friends but all I wanted was to touch boobles
@markdisalvi1487 that one makes even less sense. It's an obvious reference to Edward Teach, the actual Blackbeard, so how do you not translate it as Teach? Genuinely hilarious that the scanlations are arguably better translations than the VIZ ones
RIP English Canada subtitles for Broly. They were in a league of their own and, just like the Shamoian’s safe word, they’ve been lost to time. 😢
*Vegeta fapping to broly’s coolness.*
I miss the loading bar for Broly declaring his power to be maximum.
Wasn't it because pedophiles were putting hidden messages to eachother in videos about kids?
The Shamoshian safe word is “Please don’t have sex with me”
I remember when Goku said "Good job Broly", Broly's happy _Mm_ had the subtitle "(Why can't we be friends)"
39:30 The Toriyama joke now has a darker meaning to it (Rip Akira Toriyama😢😢😢😢 )
39:48 man this hit harder now RIP toriyama
I love how they re-wrote Cooler. Don't really remember the original that well, but here he seems to be actually respectful of Goku - if only in the sense of recognizing him as a legit threat - and most importantly he's a graceful loser. Even when he's losing his life, he doesn't lose his cool (heh) and finds solace in knowing he's better than Freeza - which is completely true.
He throws all that out in the next movie tho, guess the whole experience of dying and undying got to him
In the original movie he treats Goku like a legit threat and doesn't play around.
The French guy Salsa line “ Is that the legendary SUPER SWINE” is the funniest line in all of the DBZA Movies, and I use to say it randomly throughout the day
"and that is the history of my family" is fantastic, great line shouldn't have changed.
I read someone’s interpretation of the two “Freeza needs to accept his mistakes” and “Because I’m a prick“ scenes with Cooler. One scene is what happened, the other is how one of the brothers remember it, and there’s plenty of evidence for both.
Somehow the delivery of the 'But... whai?' always kills me 😅
I always liked the "and that's the story of my family" line. I knew immediately what had happened and thought it was great. Also, thank you for correcting "him and I"
I loved the family line too! I thought it worked as-is.
Me too. I think the impersonation sold it
It's depressing they felt a lot of these jokes needed explaining.
39:08 hurts alot now. . . .
*hugs* we all feel this pain bro.
The Toriyama line hits different now 😮💨 RIP to the goat
I just realised something. The fact that Goku is surpriced to see Cooler, someone who's Ki is on paralell with Frieza, implies that Cooler can control his Ki-levels and was able to hide it when arriving on earth.
When you guys got to the part about Nu Metal in the English dub, it prompted me to mention something.
Broly: The Legendary Super Saiyan movie features a band called Haji's Kitchen singing a couple of songs most notably Day After Day during the scene Broly no sells Goku's Kamehameha.
The singer of that band was a dear mate of mine, Vince Mullins, he passed away a few years ago and I love to pass his memory on in moments like this to people who will forever get to hear his voice through my favourite DBZ movie.
Awww dude, I love that scene! I'm so sorry to hear he passed. May he rest in peace.
@@RetroIsaac thanks man, he was a lovely dude, made a massive impact on me as a young musician, the guy's voice was on another level. Kinda sucks he never got to see the new Broly movie.
I feel like I should have posted this when they get to Movie 8 but the topic came up and I couldn't resist.
Also had his other band “Gravity Pool” featured. They’re song “Reach” plays just after Brolys transformation. One of my favourite songs and scenes in the entire film. Vince had one hell of a voice.
@@pato5226 not many people know that man and fuck it makes me happy to know you do.
He was a beautiful soul and I know he'd be thrilled with the appreciation ❤️🔥
Damn. I don't know the band or the man, but I can hear his voice as soon as I think of the original Broly movie.
Love the fact that salza says "if you strike me down I will only get stronger" at 29:45
Toriyama was indeed taken before his time.
Kind of disappointed their Cooler never meet their Tenshinhan.
I think those two would have gotten along.
That would be glorious.
My 2 favourite characters
Nah, Cooler too evil, I see them just fighting and not bickering, just having a 100% serious fight
29:12 "Bon mon ami, but not bon enough!" *gets kicked* "merde!"
broke me
Bro, coming back and hearing "Toriyama, you were taken before your time" is like a dagger to my heart
god...the movie is a memorial to Toriyama now...and he made Goku go super Saiyan...RIP Toriyama...
Good to see you guys resolved the copyright issue quickly. RUclips really bullies people hard for it.
Big F
What happened with the old upload? Did they have to change anything or was it just resolving a copyright issue?
@@Senny_V Yes
Yeah, they’re real jerks.
the fact they had too just as much when half the cast did work for funimation, and still was considered a strike, is just shiz, but its youtubes ridiculous content flagger, honestly akira toriyama would totes love the parody, so would Toyotarou, seeing as he started with fan made mangas lol but now that toriyamas son is taking over he seems to understand his fathers forgetfullness
"Then, you have my permission to die" is still one of my favorite villain lines in all of dbza
It's from one of the Christopher nolan batman films. Cooler is bane.
@@TalkingHeadProductions oh I know, the dbza version is just superior for me
That Toriyama bird line now… damn…
The Toryiama bird joke did not age well. RIP.
Its what I thought of when he died. "Go Toryiama, teach a dinosaur to ride a ball." Brought a tear my eye.
I love how they said "dont watch DBZA before DBZ" but that's EXACTLY how I experienced DBZ growing up
I kinda hate that that's how you experienced Dragon Ball, but hey at least you are stuck in this stuff with is now! Nyahahahaha!!!
I was exposed to DBZ through DBZA too! There were just too many episodes to sit down and “give it a shot” but watching these made me want to check out the original stuff
Exactly lmao my first experience with actually watching anime was my wife getting me to watch abridged series like yugioh then dbza and hellsing. I like both abridged and original now because of it.
Same and I don't regret it at all.
Broke: Watching DBZA before you watch the real DBZ.
Woke: Watching all of DBZ just so you can watch DBZA.
Bespoke: Watching DBZA and NEVER watching the real DBZ.
I would love to see a sitcom style series focused on tfs' korin, yaijerobe, popo, and dende's lives as neighbors.
Do this!
YES.
And technically Piccolo because Dende gave him a room
holy shit yea this is a great idea lmaooo and piccolo would be there sometimes too
Teach a dinosaur to ride a ball. RIP
The toriyama joke hits different now
Would be a great villain line if when Goku asked if it was contagious, Cooler just looked down and said "Highly" then sent a blast at him
Have to go with the "Hello Diddy, where's Donkey" line as the superior line in that scene
True you would have to change the set up for the Icarus joke to work
That toriyama setting off super saying hits a little harder now...
39:02 indeed he was
That whole sub-plot with Korin and Yajirobe throughout the show is probably my next-favorite thing about DBZA behind the refreshing portrayals of Dende, Popo and Cell. Healthy romance never fails to pull at my heartstrings.
I’ve honestly always felt that Cooler’s first movie is the closest you could get to making canon because it can be slotted in to the three year time skip during the Android Saga. I know it’s ultimately not canon I’m just saying it’s the one that would mess up continuity the least in my eyes.
I’ll always love your “Yeah but his was smaller!” “KNEW IT! HA!” joke! One of your best to me! That had me on the floor the first time I heard it!
It's Gohan's tail growing back that doesn't add up. I swear they always have to add *one* thing that doesn't add up lmao.
Bojack has the most canonable movie. Just ignore that 18 isn't attending this super prize tournament, but my read on that is that she only starts getting money focused to get their family out of kame house
Dead zone could also work within the canon.
@@MegaHerpthederp I don’t think it could. In Dead Zone Bulma, Roshi and Krillin already know about Gohan, whom they didn’t find out about until the beginning of DBZ, then Raditz shows up and events are set into motion from there. There’s no break in between Gohan meeting his dad’s old friends and being abducted by his uncle. This is why the Garlic Jr Saga is considered non-canon by the fans, well that and the fact it doesn’t happen in the manga.
couldn't Wrath of the Dragon also fit in the canon timeline? The only discrepancy is that it's implied Future Trunks' sword was given to him by Tapion, but it's not outright stated, so that can be ignored.
38:50 hits harder now that we lost the man
Oh wow that "TORIYAMA NO!!! You were taken before your time!" really hits home now....
I swear, there are times in DBZA that I wonder if Mr. Popo was the original God of Destruction. The fact that Popo can bring back a destroyed sun kind of reinforces that thought.
I don't think that's something destruction-related tho.
@@niserresin2006 Sure it is. He destroyed an attempt at destroying the sun.
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter Alright then, a different argument: Popo's powers are that of Meme (a power that Saitama's powers are often mistaken for). Beerus's powers are that of Destruction. Popo is thus naturally more powerful, likely to be around the same level as the Grand Priest at minimum, and beyond Zeno at maximum.
@@niserresin2006”Before creation comes destruction”
Head-canon: Mr. Popo is a retired Zeno. He abdicated, then went to live the rest of existence on some quiet, backwater planet in the middle of nowhere just chilling, getting wasted, and hanging out.
"And that's the history of my family" got me so abrubtly and hard first time I watched it, I just had to comment when I saw yall questioning it, it was so funny to me
It got you hard? Jokes aside, It’s one of my favorite jokes in the film.
Man, that “Toriyama no, you were taken before your time” line hits way harder now
The Whiskers the Wonder Cat joke led me to eventually make a Khajit character in Skyrim and name him that. I spent that run doing pure unarmed and heavy armor, so I was running around punching and suplexing people to death.
That was a ton of fun and OP as hell.
Im gonna write this down
The hilarious thing about the "Bulma Enchanto" thing is that it's like that IN THE VIDEOGAME ONLY, in the movie when she introduces herself to Goku, she does say "Bulma Briefs". Same thing for Chichi, in the movie her last name is never stated, it's the videogame that gives her the "McRoberts" last name
Also, the Diddy Donkey joke is DEFINITELY better than the Icarus one, for one simple reason. If cooler is anything like freezer, he MUST have called the Saiyans monkeys a lot
Chichi _McRoberts_
You can't be serious
@@doctorsnakeeater1997 i checked on the wiki, in the game she is CHICHI FUCKING MCROBERTS
I really like how Coolers 5th form is an actual different form, much better than the damn recolors they keep doing recently.
I think it illustrates the difference between the brothers really well, even if it's unintentional. (And it is definitely unintentional.)
Cooler is trying to push past his limits and finds the fifth form, possibly the actual second form for his species (since Frieza's fourth form is actually his base form, with the others being power limiters).
While Frieza is so preoccupied with Goku that he ends up creating a new form that, while stronger, is just a copy of Super Saiyan that doesn't even do him much good.
Maybe if Frieza had unlocked fifth form, his natural talent could've made it stronger than the Saiyan gods!
It kinda just us 2nd form with a mask.
@@2-bit567 That's... also true. But it looks cool, and that's the important part
"This form's so much more powerful! It's BLUE! And it's almost as powerful as the other one, which is RED, but it can actually be sustained."
At least the gold Super Saiyan transformations follow a decent pattern.
SSJ1: bulked up a bit, everything goes golden, spiky, and angry.
SSJ1a: bulked up a bit more, but slower.
SSJ1b: bulked up beyond reason, functionally immobile.
SSj2: significant boost in speed and power, eyes get more narrow, hair gets swept back somewhat, lightning in the aura.
SSj3: another big speed and power boost, hair really long, eyebrows gone, eyes even more narrow, the lightning might as well be a shawl.
They're all distinct and memorable, even if 2 essentially becomes the baseline transformation for those who have it.
@@2-bit567 sometimes that’s enough
39:02 “Toriyama no, you were taken before your time” :(
Oh my god Toriyama the Bird hits even harder now 😢
I love the “You must be Ice Cold” “No, that would be my father” bit. It works so well within the context of the show! We never got King Cold’s first name, and “ice” keeps up the cold puns for Frieza’s race. As far as I’m concerned, “Ice” is absolutely King Cold’s first name.
I always just assumed that cold was his first name. Like Vegeta is Prince Vegeta.
@@Gab8riel yea toriyama decided in the dragon ball universe that last names are barely a thing if at all (probably cause he didnt want to think of any lol) so its likely his name is just Cold for that same vegeta reason you gave
@@JubioHDX exception of course for the Briefs family. but yeah, it is a funny quirk of Toriyama's
@@stitchesbunny8496 Funny enough, only professor Briefs originally had the name.
@@2-bit567 Unless I'm mistaken, I'm pretty sure that 'Briefs' was originally Dr.Briefs' given name, not his Surname. Then everyone started calling Bulma 'Bulma Briefs' and it just kinda stuck. I'm pretty sure that's the case, but it was in a RUclips video I watched a long time ago, so I could be wrong 😂
Honestly I think the underwater monologue was great. The fact it happened so quickly just made it funnier.
37:46 "Avon calling!!!!"
That always gets me
Honestly it's hilarious and it bugs me they didn't address how they arrived at something so off topic and random ("Avon calling" being a reference to the door to door sales campaign by cosmetics company Avon) and yet so seamlessly integrable to the scene.
Bit of trivia: The actual speeder bike chase is unscored. The music here is the orchestral version of the piece "The Forest Battle". It plays in the movie where Chewbacca and the Ewoks clean house in the big battle, but was re-orchestrated for concert suites. You may remember the finale of the piece used in the Episode 2 trailer.
That "why does it smell like dragons breath" has to be the most crass joke no one got the first time they heard it.
24:30 if you want the Icarus flying too close to the sun joke to work, set it up earlier, Like when the Cooler Force was at the camp and were knocking out Gohan, have him, at some point, say "Run Icarus!" or something, have them confirm they know the name with a "What a stupid name for a dragon," then BOOM! Now they know the dragon's name to make the joke.
Cooler is one of my favorite movie villians. He has a few subtle differences from Freeza and it does create some interesting concepts for Freeza’s family tree. Him seeing Freeza as a petulent child. No one looked down on Freeza like that. And Cooler making certain that Goku is dead by sending his mean to scorch the forest showed his agency and how he handles business. The whole thing of him cleaning up Freeza’s mess And his end realizing that it was his mistake as well.
Fun fact: for TMNT2 secrets of the ooze, the studio decided to bend to whims of parents saying the first TMNT was too violent so all their weapons were glued into position. They don’t use any of said weapons during the movie. We did get combat cold cuts though….so that’s a thing.