Have Merc/Ferrari closed the gap? Scarbs F1 update by Peter Windsor
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- Опубликовано: 21 фев 2024
- To the background of the one and only pre-season F1 test (in Bahrain this week), Craig Scarborough analyses post-launch updates on the major cars and looks at their potential pace. This video interview with Craig was first aired in our livestream on February 22.
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Scarbs needs his own channel!
Apparently not...
Even better, form another F1 commentary duo. Then we can have the Matt & Tommy VS Scarbs & Windsor tennis superslam.
Matt and tommy are kinder garden type of content.
@@batialexis9339 you're watching brightly coloured cars driven by rich men in onesies race eachother for imaginary points, and someone talking about it on camera is the immaturity line for you?
Lmao you guys keep repeating this. Just chill
Windsor and Scarbs opinions on pre-season is a MUST for any F1 fan.
Thank you Peter and Scarbs …
Dunno how fast the Merc will be on race pace, but watching Lewis today from the cockpit camera and how smooth his inputs were and how he was able to place the car where he wanted to, tells me that he doesn't have to fight this car like the '22/'23 ones. So its probably a big step up from the previous two seasons, but will that be enough to beat RB and Max , that I dunno.
the RB looks like its on rails, might be a bit of a leap forward still. Newey is a bit of an alien
Hammy will do FA without a ‘spicy’ engine giving him 1-2 seconds a lap on anything else
@@2g1c69 The rear end of the RB looked absolutely nailed down from all 3 days of testing... "on rails" is bang on
@uksharif on rails? Sure. That just a term everyone is using now. From what I saw the merc looks planted as well. Stop the red bull hype.
@@davidhamilton768 The RB hype isn't there without reason. They have Newey and verstappen. It's going to be a good year for them
Enjoying the Scarbs conversations immensely thanks Mr Windsor ❤
Top job...thank you gentlemen.
Love the fact that RB didnt play it safe. Its brave
RB name is now linked to another team.
@@wakhdrahti-8736its still originally Red Bull
@@Ivyticrea better not naming like that, it's confusing.
They have 4 cars on the track.
@@wakhdrahti-8736 the other team is linked to RB actually
Thanks Pete and thanks Scarbs :)
Very precious, thanks 👍
Great question? Thank
Do you know what the strange sound the W15 was making on the 1st day of testing proceeded by a beep going down the straights?
How can this guy say that merc will be better than Ferrari when everything points to the exact opposite?!
It's copium. From watching the Sky coverage for the past two days, Ted suggested on his notebook 'there was nothing between Ferrari and Mercedes' which just clearly wasn't true. Then today Rachel Brookes opened today's coverage by asking Lawrence and Jolyon "who do you think is second to Red Bull, is it Mercedes or McLaren.... or Ferrari?' as if Ferrari were an afterthought, but what was funny was that both Lawrence and Jolyon said Ferrari and McLaren in that order. This is precisely why Sky Sports F1 is often mocked on Twitter as being 'Sky Sports Mercedes F1'.
He doesn’t like Ferrari for some reason
Yeah they tend to push the British teams , I guess it’s pandering to their audience
British as in drivers, you mean. Mercedes is everything but an British team. They are already preparing the switch to Ferrari ; )@@stevepiccinnin1157
Merc looks planted. Stop looking at the stop watch right now and just watch.
The cannon label on the RB will likely stick but cannon barrels are straight. But cannon sounds better more aggressive than what they more closely resemble "sausages" or "bangers".lol
Photos of the "goods" under the side pods taken in pit lane garage support Scarbs contention that a zero side pod configuration will appear is "bunk".
Form follows function and the bulky cooling hardware under the pods aft of the inlets squash a zero pod scenario for RB. The plumbing arrangement at this stage is locked down. Its' friendliness to having its' aerodynamic covering "massaged" and sculptured as the season evolves is where aero based speed gains will be made. Because that's what history has illustrated hasn't it? Scarbs prediction that the compactness allows opportunities for further RB enhancement just makes common sense.
Obi Wan Newey and his young apprentices are masters of the "Air Force" every other team is being lead by the nose to the aerodynamic solution. Sadly for them they only have access to last years teachings!
Lmao
Best channel by far 😍
I'm not an aerodynamicist. But regarding the Halo inlets. They moved a lot of accessories upwards to make more room for the cut of the sidepod. These coolers on top are exhausting on either side of the bulges. Probably at the same height of the rear wing. They use this hot air to disrupt the airflow of the rear wing and stall it at high speeds. Basically a similar concept of tue F duct but executed differently. Mechanical grip and ground effect for low to mid speeds. Again im not an aerodynamicist.
Not an expert, but I don’t think so. Just my opinion ofc. Teams are trying to exit exhaust air IN BETWEEN crucial aero surfaces (ie in between rear wing and beam wing), in other words, they want CLEAN air to actually hit those surfaces. If I understood u correctly, blowing spent air from the bulges onto the rear wing sounds like an unwise design, it would render the rear wing semi-useless. Any aero surfaces/devices need clean as possible air to extract peak performance. Maybe that’ll decrease the drag but it’ll also decrease the downforce by greater folds. F duct directed air thru the air device itself, not blowing spent air onto it externally.
Great analysis, as usual from Scarbs. One thing I missed about it was that nothing was mentioned about Aston-Martin, which seemed unusual to me since they showed last year that they could be in the same "league" as Merc and Ferrari. I hope we can get a "take" on them in a future talk with Scarbs.
The halo inlets are for the beam wing and stalling the diffuser making the car kinda long tail. Also the pace pends on mapping and fuel loads. Maybe SF and Merc are sandbagging still. We will see come q3.
Could the vertical inlets be feeding the floor somehow?
Or vice-versa
Love how you, love to talk Ferrari down. Fact of the matter is Carlos looked way better in balance corner stability, was faster did more miles was more reliable. But because it's not an English team you won't talk about. Or talk only negative about it. Definitely Max turned engine up first day. Love to see Peter and particularly Scarborough eat there words english bias
What are you talking about? RBR is an Austrian team.
@@vcolin you really don't know where there headquarters are do you? Look up Milton Keynes
@@danielriccardo6674 ofc I know. In the end the Austrian anthem is played.
@@vcolin it would be nice if they were based in Austria. It's like Ferrari using Italian Athenem but based in US
I just saw a video where Newey built a sail boat & was involved with the building of it. So he knows all about the packaging.
From what B Sport said, I think the vertical inlet on the Red Bull is just to stabilise the air flow that goes under the sidepod, rather than being for cooling or an S-duct per se.
Rules require it to do cooling.
@@ThijsSHthats a pretty weak rule as you can say the air cools anything it runs by. Ferrari could claim that their f duct cools the tank by running next to it. That rule seems like there are easy workarounds
It's going to be tough to get closer to red bull in these generation of cars but that doesn't mean that other teams should just give up.
Even if they close the gap RB is also improving the car and just increase the gap again.
Not a RB or Merc fan.
Have Red Bull stuck inlets all over the car so they can make changes to the car for “cooling” and not eat into their aero testing allowance?
Testing for cooling is actually very restrictive. Sensors used for testing aero are not allowed to be used during cooling testing. FIA already has that covered
I don’t get why they are so against the Y250 yet they allow the top element of the rear wing to hang out without end fences to mitigate the vortexes rolling off the ends of that flap
End fences don't mitigate wing tip vortexes, since the strength of the vortex is a function of the pressure difference between the 2 zones and the presence of end plates creates a bigger pressure because the air cannot bleed off to the sides of the wing and equalise pressure. So the absence of end plates is positive in this regard
@@deltaelite42 they absolutely mitigate wing tip vortices and prevent such losses by creating that big pressure differential. Vortices are created by the air spilling off the top surface of the wing and into the bottom thus the swirling mass of air, by installing end plates you prevent the air from the top from spilling over to the bottom. Why do you think they now require the front wing elects to run the entire length up to the nose. Also it’s called a wing tip vortex for that particular reason.
Apparently we got a lot of aerodynamicists in this chat ;)
I know right, teams can save so much money by just taking all the expert takes here in the chat
@vikashchandra9917 actually, a college degree doesn't always translate to developed talent. Some of Us have had opportunities given to Us because of God given natural abilities. For instance, even with two different technical directors and 3 years of development cycles under a stable homologation of rules, Mercedes still sucks. And they all get paid a lot of money, and they all have college degrees. 🙄
@@stephensegal5187 wow, terrible logic. Let’s fire all of the team directors other than Red Bulls and replace them by your logic. Let’s also fire all the space researchers everywhere other than NASA as they have not landed people on the moon, their plan sucks. Are you an infant?
Most people in this chat have neither degrees nor the experience and there is no such thing as natural talent. All talent needs to be cultivated and worked hard at.
DTS did a massive damage to the community, kids and inmature ignorant adults all over the place.
@@stephensegal5187 ... a college degree involves work and experience which is the definition of developing talent. Some people might be naturally gifted at maths or physics, but they can't just waltz into a garage and immediately know all the technical and nuanced details involved. Even a genius needs to study to do something specialised.
I believe that the cannons are dumping hot air at the back of the diffusers. Doing so causes more flow through the venturis, and stalls the rear wing at higher speeds for less drag.
interesting. how would that achieve higher airflow under the floor?
Makes sense!!!
@@divinasi0ntake a small plastic tube, stick one end in water, cut the other end about 30degrees and blow air over the cut end until the the water comes out. Same principle.
Or maybe the cannons are there to shoot cannon balls at the competition 😆
@@me2ontube grape shot for sure!
Scarbs is going dangerously close to Harry Hill with those new specs!
FIGHT!
It may not just be aerodynamics, more air to the intercoolers = more power.
I'm pretty sure they were not starving the engines beforehand lol. And you cant do performance enchancing engine upgrades until 2026.
@@askeladden450I could imagine them spinning it as a 'reliability' upgrade, which is allowed .
@@callumcurtis15 yea possible.
It might be the RB20 has all these cooling inlets to test if it works having them this way so it’s an easier transition to the zero pods concept of Mercedes. The shark mouth and vertical inlet make it possible to make the car way more slim.
Interesting observation
The Mercedes Zero pod concept wont work with RB's concept. If you compare the actual images zero pod, RB19 and RB20, the concept is a revolution of RB19. The focus is to direct more air below the sidepods. The have made the ducts zero size but the side pod is very prominent.
The idea is how i understand cars will be smaller in 2026 so every team will anyways need to test effects on how a slim car changes the engine cooling and co. But because they arnt allowed to test it now and the first time they are will be 01.01.2025 they will how the titelfight is over and they get data that other wont have
Good call op. Smaller inlets also means less drag, and they may be able to make the effective drag less because of the body work shaping. Idk, just a guess
The internals aren’t setup to easily transition to the zeropod. Theres shots with the covers off and it’s pretty clear that it would be a huge undertaking to get to that point.
They opened the gap to checo, but to say they closed the gap to max. That's a stretch. Max is probably using maybe 50% of his abilities. Wait till he unleashes all hell on the grid.
So he had no abilities from 2015-2020?
What absolute nonsense
Saw this on my feed and clicked
It’s simple
It looks to me like there's an additional very small inlet on the red bull, just downstream of the vertical one and shark mouth one! No idea what that's for, as it really is small
maybe to cool drivers seat
@@hellohumans175 I'm talking about on the sidepod. Pretty sure this one is in line with or behind where the driver sits, so wouldn't be likely to be a driver cooling inlet. Especially as red bull have 2 scoops on top of the chassis for that.
I was wondering whether it's to clean up any spillage from the cooling inlet in cases where the maximum cooling flow capacity is reached
Yes, they closed the gap, they just need to shave another 3.5 seconds. Meanwhile Max did like 140+ laps. He's a kid having a ton of fun and we are watching greatness
loose audio @ 6.00??
No problems here..
Is this from yesterday's chat?
Seems like it. It's good to have this separate. It would also help to know it's the same for those who already watched yesterday.
The answer is an inconvenient no
For me it's hard to believe that all these ducts (4 per side not including main central engine intake) are for cooling, my initial thoughts are for energising the floor and/or rear #BlownDefuserStyle
Which would be illegal. Look at the Scarbs pictures. It is clear they are going to radiators only.
@bertram-raven yeah but red bull 🤝 illegal
@@bertram-raven I've watched it and he starts with the caveat that saying "this is why I'm starting to guess" #VerticalDucts also I'm pretty sure that the blown era ban was exhaust orientated, I doubt there's a regulation saying where your "COOLING" ducts can go and exit
#MoreWilliamsPlz
Don’t think (scarbs) is too sweet on Ferrari?
Other teams have said they think it’s a clever innovation. Not saying at all that it’s against the spirit. Only Symonds who incidentally was also saying a similar thing about the zero sidepods. The same Pat Symonds who was booted out of F1 for cheating.
Closed the gap between them.
Accurate analysis
Is it just me or did they not even mention Aston? They talked every other team, so it’s weird if they did.
I wouldn’t be surprised if merc have been intentionally dumping as much dirty air as possible behind their cars for years
If that was a performance consideration they would ALL be doing it.
It might be against the spirit of the rules but the rules have fundamentally failed to achieve the desired results.
The racing is beautiful, drivers can pass and follow. RB hit it running. Same as merc before, RB before, Brawn etc etc.
Red bull are 1+ second faster than this time last year 😂
It’s testing man. I’m not saying they aren’t quicker but being quick in testing means very little.
^ another clown who doesn't understand testing. let me guess, you're a DTS fan? thought so.. that explains a lot.
@@MichFoodFitness It's not just laptime numbers. GP - Max's race engineer - was caught on TV smiling ear to ear right after Max set the time. That looked like a man who now knows for sure RB20 is way ahead of RB19 instead of just sim numbers. We will see for real on Q1/race at Bahrain but knowing RB19 dominated last season and if RB20 better then other teams are fighting for P2
@MichFoodFitness yep like today Carlos has already smashed last year best time set up by redbull during third day. I also don't think they are 1 second in front or even the 8 tenths he was during at the same time kando did his run. Lando also just beaten Max time yesterday night, so it is too soon to say the gaps.
@@MichFoodFitness it is testing, but that RB is looking like a space ship
why so quiet? can barely hear even with headphones. Please normalise audio before uploading. Trying to have this on in the background and i cant hear it.
No, Perez Spent the entire first session on the Extra hard tire, and that was when he was actually on track. Which was maybe 20% of the session. One can only assume more complaining about the car by him because it's not like he could actually be the problem. Day 2 rubber on the track and on Softs (Charles best time) Max is 2.5-3 seconds better than a no grip medium Day 1. That miles ahead of anyone else today. Perez by RB standards was horrible all day. And the 30-45 minute stops taking the entire car apart. Why, well we all know why. He is complaining about EVERYTHING. Just drive the damn car or find someone who will. I bet Lawson wouldn't be complaining. In the end, you look at half the drivers on the grid and some back ups as well as a few in F2. And you think, if they were in the RB20 how likely is it that they'd finish 2nd in the title? Start going down the list and what you give each drivers chances. Fernando, Lewis, Charles, Lando, Oscar, Carlos, George, Val, Nico, Kmag, Alexander and Danial are all 95-100%. Yuki 90. Then it starts to drop from there. I'd give Drogo 80% as well as Lawson and a few F2 Drivers. RB went out of their way to make this car more friendly to Perez and all he does is bitch bitch bitch.
Also a note for Merc. Anyone else Notice the front end of Lewis's car was raised a good amount higher than what they had Russel's at yesterday.. 🤔🤫
Both the halo and vertical inlets show how smart RB have been because the vertical inlets will clean up the boundary layer and the halo inlets will help clean up some of the messier spill you get over the top of the cockpit, it's distributed cooling but targeting some of the least aerodynamically useful airflows as well
Before I watch this vid I assume scarbs will make a case merc is sandbagging and are withholding an engineering masterpiece
"Zeropods - i thats complete fake" - BRAVO! Finally one of the technical experts of the F1 media landscape has recognized it! At last! Red Bull's side box is full, completely horizontally packed with radiators and aggregates, so that it is completely impossible to implement a Zeropod concept without converting the car so that it would practically be a completely new car! What Red Bull has done is ultimately a concept that has nothing to do with Zeropods! It is rather a relatively conventional concept, namely a V-shaped radiator arrangement that was already used 20 years ago (Sauber introduced it in 2004) to make the undercut bigger and the sidepods smaller, combined with more centerline cooling, which is nothing new either (the Ferrari F2004 had additional cooling outlets in the middle of the car, also to make the sidepods smaller). So Red Bull have used and developed old concepts and adapted them to the new regulations in a way (something Newey does all the time) to make the undercut bigger and require less cooling surface on the outside and thus reduce some drag (which should be minimal as the extra vents also have drag). Clever, but not a revolution or extremely spectacular. Ultimately a logical evolution. A very consequent one. But not a revolution and definetely nothing that has anything to do with Zeropods.
scarbs need better audio
Scarbs is sitting and guessing things that he does not understand, same as all previous years.
watch the max onboard lap, the title is already in the bag
Yep - certainly won't help the TV ratings.
@@paulbessell6154 and 8 loooong years of Mercedes domination did?
@@stevesgaming7475 Exactly - lets hope someone, anyone, can put a decent challenge in to make it worth watching. Otherwise they'll have to change the rules again to bring someone closer. 🙄
I just did... thing of beauty. Good luck keeping up with that
Wasnt as bad least you had the drama and tension with Lewis and Rosberg and then also Vettel put up some kind of a fight 2017/18
Max is alone now so its worst @@stevesgaming7475
The spirit of the regulations means, oh crap we were too thick to think of that, how can we now stop this innovation.
Hi Peter, love your videos! But can someone give Scarbs a normal mic. The quality of the sound is really poor
i can hear him really good
ruclips.net/video/nw24nvjZWb4/видео.html
it further highlights what scarbs and others are speculating
Torro rosso testing an idea before Redbull using it without having to spend development money on it. Never
Maybe I've missed something but how can anyone who watched this test say Mercedes is ahead of Ferrari? Funny how even the drivers in the actual cars and on the actual track think Ferrari is firmly behind Red Bull and ahead of everyone else. Surely the anti-Ferrari feeling is not that great?
Scarbs - simply the best
Noooo
the ducts behind the helmet, are likely, s-ducts, not cooling, to clean up the defuser airflow. A new blown defuser.
No
It's racing - nobody cares about or complies with the "spirit" of any rule, they spend a lot of time searching for cracks in the rules, debating how far they can go before one actually breaks. The spirit of any rule is in conflict with the their job - going fast. Write better rules, and if the spirit is important, write it into the rule.
Williams will be P6 or P7
Its not Merc if there not cheating
they're not trying to undermine anything, they are merely trying to find performance, these attempts have aerodynamic consequences.
Nonsense,quite obviously copper pipe storage plumbing jobs
Let me guess another video or article where McLaren get snubbed just like F1’s recap of day 2 that only mentions RBR, Ferrari, Merc and RB. Why even bother having the other teams if all anyone talks about are RBR Merc and Ferrari. Let’s just ignore the fact McLaren has the 2nd best car by the end of tue season
If Merc's questionable front wing string breaks in a race will they be disqualified for having improper front wing spec?
You can race with a broken front wing, as long as there is no danger of it detaching and causing danger on the track
Yes. We must also remember Merc have put pieces on the rear of the car in 2023 which provided no aerodynamic benefit but broke the point of the 2022 design rules by deliberately creating turbulent air behind the car which hampers overtaking. The FiA quietly had them removed. However, Merc have used such devices for years, even before the current rules. I'd call that legal cheating.
But it becomes ILLEGAL, no? Spec wise.@@walter1824
@@walter1824Not really. They can have that wing according to rules grey zone. But that wing is against the rules spirits cause probably they can create an Y250 vortex, where the rules was made to block that vortex. So they could be deemed illegal not for the tech rules but for the rules spirit of competition.
@@solinvictus1234 We`re talking about broken wings here.
But anyway they submitted the design to the FIA way before working on it and they said it`s legal so that`s it.The vortex will be much weaker than the previous wings that had 250mm gap so not to worry about it
No the gap is even bigger 😂😂😂😂😂
Merc are miles off again
Mclaren looks way better then Merc ever did since the changes lol. Dont get what they are on about
Game over..RB design
No because SUPER MAX was just fooling around during testing. TA
Max said he wants to leave f1 to open a goat farm after 2026 🐐
Good leave
Only problem is he isn’t the 🐐
@@Recon6delta neither is Lady Lewis
@@Recon6delta still we cry helmet👌🏻
These new regs were to make the car run closer.... not to make overtaking easier
The purpose of running closer is to enable overtaking (also described as “making overtaking easier”), which is the main spectacle of the racing. There would be no call or need for the cars to run closer, if running closer made overtaking more difficult. They want to make overtaking easier but they don’t want more artificial, DRS-like solutions.
@@ZiRo815 DRS is till needed to enable overtaking anyway....it hasn't gone
@@Simont6.0 I know that. And the last thing anyone wants in F1 is more DRS-like devices (e.g. overtake battery boost) that artificially increase overtaking. And they’d get rid of DRS in a heartbeat if they could. The goal of all this is to create more overtaking. Whether you can acknowledge it or not, they’re trying to make overtaking easier, and avoid artificial mechanisms in the process.
Reality: Legal is legal & Illegal is illegal
F1 in spirits : Illegal is legal
🤦♂️
Merc is desperate. They seem to be attempting a super stable car for Lewis.. while Red Bull continues on it's less stable and perhaps quicker car... one is easier to drive, one is more difficult. Results favor the latter as long as the driver can handle it.
How can you say the RB is unstable? It’s the most stable car on the grid and has been since the start of 22 especially so in the hands of MV
A bit premature video after the first test
I think checo is cooked.
"Promo SM" ❣️
That will never happen as long as Max is the driver. Max is the difference!
Max is good driver like Charle,Carlos,Lando,Rusel,no more…Perez won 2 of the first four races last season and finished 2nd in the others, then Red Bull made him the number 2 driver
I tell you what Peter, as an aero engineer and as a fan of F1 for more than 40 years now - I don't believe anymore to anyone in F1 - they are all liers - the teams, the press, all of them just wants to find and keep the interest in a boring "sport", which is dominated each time by only one team.
The only one I believe in is Max - we will see him win again and again in a great Newey car. BTW every good engineer has always to design a new good puzzle.
I just wonder
How many things redbull have developed that are against the spirit of the regulation ?
But only things that are innovative and standing out are getting looked at .
The cars under redbulls concept
Went from 50% better follwing compared to the old regs
To under 30%
None. So funny how despirate you are looking to keep posting hate. Keep crying
😂😂 Max is far ahead…nobody in his dirty air 😂😂😂 the other cars are in eachother dirty air
no
For 2026, the engine cover regs should mandate a minimum angle to avoid those awful sausages/bazookas being the norm.
Sounds like a case of rotten eggs to me. Or is that rotten sausage and egg.
Why? If it helps the aero why not use it? It may not be aesthetically pleasing but.....
These 2 get more things wrong than they do right.
Scarbs, please use a proper mic.
Indeed. Either Peter should buy him one so his content is better, or scarbs should get one himself for his own commercial/consulting purposes. It's insane
Can't wait to see and hear Lewis this season moaning and blaming others that his gold chains and teath aren't clearly visible due to the new design
What on earth are you talking about? Dog whistles used to be more subtle
@@rauo5160Yep, dickhead comment. Don’t know what it is about Lewis but he doesn’t half seem to bring them out.
Stop moaning and crying mate
@@andrewmelton2686 On the contrary poor Possum, I'm having the time of my life thanks to new regulations that make all cars more equal, real racing has returned to F1 and it is about the best drivers again
@shootingsportstransparency7461 seriously, stop crying dude
If this is true, then any damage to the side of their car it won’t go well for redbull ..
😂 despirate much
Craig should get some Visa and Cash App money and rebrand as S Carb
Mercedes car looks very planted to the ground. That car looks beautiful and very fast.I think they are very close to Red Bull in terms of performance.
Merc was moving around a lot, balance didnt look planted.
@@hellobooomit look planted from what I saw. It was nervous kn day 1 and day 2 but they dialled it out.
Mercedes are running old hard tyre, full fuel load and the fact that Lewis went to gym during winter means they have 2s in backpocket.
😂
😂
😂😂
What if that isn’t enough
Last time people accused Merc of sandbagging, they ended up being far off of RB and Ferrari.
Yes merc def close gap
No they are throwing shit against the wall and hoping it sticks. Red bull have shown them once again they have lost the plot on how to work with the new regs. Expect Lewis to leave the team mid season due to him not being involved with the team as in previous sessions.
Haas a career killer for drivers they should leave the sport.
Verstappen: 1s ahead of the next best; Perez: 1s behind the best. That RBR car wouldn't win the WDC or WCC with drivers like Perez. Nobody would speak wonders of it. It's ALL Max.
Perez was put into McLaren as the replacement for Lewis, he was crap, he got dropped. It's not that Max is not good but Perez makes him look better.
Karen Horner Is busy with his own troubles to be bothered with "triggering" a protest once again against innovation. Unless Helmet gets Buxton and DiResta to talk trash against Lewis once again. Otherwise, Mercedes will prevail.
Helmet🤣
Redbull cheat
sorry, but this "spirit of the sport" is just utter bullshit and killing innovation. Better to get rid of this crappy budget cap, which is the worst thing that has been introduced F1 since the early 80s when I started following it.
Would you say it makes sense to agree as a collective to avoid dirty air so you can have close racing and improve the industry as a whole in order to fully accept people creating dirty air through loopholes in the rules?
@@valkenburgert we never had this dirty air problem back in the 80s and 90s mate...the problem is these new technical regulations. They are CRAP.
@@valkenburgert PS coupled to fucking shit modern circuit designs. But, I guess you gotta keep the technical boffins employed by the FIA in a job...
@@davepastern nonsense , dirty air has been a problem for decades . Only cured by drag reduction
@@davepastern I don't disagree with you on that but with those regulation a "spirit of the sport" only makes sense.
I wasn't aware you wanted the whole regulations gone. And I couldn't be aware of that since you didn't write it.