Karina is an MM's worst nightmare. Her invulnerability to basic attack dmg + her skills makes her one of the most evasive assassins in the entire game, who can get quick kills and leave without a scratch. Of course, mages are her usual weakness, especially ones with tracking stuns and high dmg like Eudora. Due to the nerf on tank karina, she can now no longer be the horrifying menace she was in the past (though some still build her tanky), it has directly revived high damage Karina, which is arguably more terrifying. Also, Day 7 of requesting Betosky to open gameplay submissions from fans.
@@slimslimee4411 I personally hate Karina because she counters Hanzo pretty hard. Ghost can't even hit her using 2nd skill and since I need basic attack stacks to unlock my 1st skill.... Yeah, she's very annoying. Her being part of the new meta scares me lmao
@@yoshivaderworks3236 I agree not even building athena's shield will be enough to stop a full dmg karina bcs of that bs true dmg passive. Most likely she may be a ban priority next season
I don't think when Bruno said "Grabe Karina", it meant that Karina (or you, Betosky) is bad. It's more like they're amazed on how impressive you are at cleaning up after that Atlas set. He's like, "Damn, Karina".
Lol im a filipino and I understand what bruno is saying😭 at the end of the game he typed “grabe karina” which translates to “this karina is insane” or “this karina is too much” something like that lol. Edit: 7:27 he also said “Ayoko na” which means “I give up” lol, beto be bullying players
Just a small correction in the end when the enemy bruno says "Grabe Karina" it actually means something like "Wow Karina" not necessarily "bad Karina" - viewer from ph 🇵🇭
@@birb9425 Yes, it's most literal translation is "too much". But it also shares the same usage as "wow" in that it's used to express astonishment at something. To simplify things for our English speakers here, "grabe" can be translated as "on another level". In this case "grabe Karina" is along the lines of "Karina is on another level" or "You're on another level Karina", and it can be good or bad depending on how it's said or used. It's either praise for the good performance, or a quip about not having to go that hard.
Karina, just like Yve still remains a really strong hero in the current meta even though they're picked less often. The reason why she is not picked often is because other heroes who have strong cc such as atlas, franco who can stop karina and a lot of sustain heroes with lifesteal/regen abilities such as Esmeralda and Ruby who can deal with the sudden burst dmg and true dmg. I still think she is a nightmare for a lot maybe even all heroes, she excels the fundementals of an assassin jungler, while also having the flexibility to go a little bit tanky (semi-tank) bc of her true dmg passive that compensates the lack of offensive magic items. Also can you try Esmeralda or Ruby, I want to know your opinion if they are still good picks.
What i like about Karina is her true dmg and her resilience. All you need is calamity reaper, concentrated energy, and genius wand ( if they have magic def). Rest you can build tanky items. I still prefer calamity reaper above CoD because of true dmg. I also prefer bloody reti over ice retri because of the regen
It's simple memorization and not a micro but it's fundamental and easy for everyone to practice to get better at the game. You benefit greatly from it especially if you know which Tier 2 items to buy first to maximize their value until you sell/upgrade them mid to late game.
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I have a motto of never trusting your teammates. Play as if you'll the only one standing from winning or losing. Few minutes in, you can tell which teammates are helpful, try but die alot or just abandon helping and run away all the time so they don't die.
The moment at 5:32 (Atlas wants to continue to pressure enemy's jungler) for me, is one of the hardest thing to learn as Roamer on Solo q, simply because you just didn't know if your playstyle and your team's are in sync. Sometimes it just puts me in dilemma, since i also wanted to completely shutdown enemy's junglers, but also want to prevent my own jungler's death too. Any advice from experienced roamers out there ?
Depend on the jungler playstyle tho, if the jungler playstyle is active aggresive, you just follow him up, but if they play passively, so as a roamer you also must play defensively. And and error wil occured in ever match, so dont really worry about that, just have fun
You adjust with your jungler playstyle and jungler hero. For ling, you can steal buffs all day, he can just jump in and retri it if you deal enough damage. It also depends on your hero and the enemy jungler and the stage of the game you are in. Like, you should not annoy a Roger jungler as a Tigreal on his blue, his mage will toast you before he gets you half hp. Or a Hilda. She will obliterate you. As a roamer, your job is to be proactive. So, deal a bit of dmg to your junglers thing, then see if he wants to steal it. If he ignores you, do not bother with that for the rest of the game until xp and gold lane push forward, they will definitely take the buff. Instead, what you can do is gank mid before going gold or xp lane. Your mage will love an easy kill or free farm, by the time you get to the side lanes your skills should have cooled down. Once on gold, either kill or damage the enemies there, enough so that the mm or fighter has to return to base, allowing your team to farm, immediately after, you need to go to the other side lane. You will be passing through mid. So see if you can do something there or at least do not show yourself, so the other side lane will think you are in a bush somewhere. You do not necessarily need to babysit your jungler after he gets hist first run, unless it is an objective. Now, you need to zone the enemy jungler out, only in that case check if he is taking his buff. If he is, annoy him so he uses his retribution and well, if you can, steal it, lol. Basically, you need to be very efficient with what you do, always calculate your every move. I mean, when I get bored I just kill people with the tank. I find it is easier to win if I feed all my lanes a bit, rather than just my jg or mm. A one item difference will snowball, imagine if every one in your team has that. If you see a dumb player, just do not help him. If he cannot score a kill, his gold will drop significantly every death, it is far more efficient to kill minions rather than chase them. Basically, always think what your next move is. Expect there to be some issues due to counterplays or just bad timings. Adjust to how your team behaves. Try to profit from anything. Everything. You might not be able to do anything, but your presence there will affect the enemies. When I play my Tigreal, they do not exit from under their turrets. I Flickr combo them out. 😂 When I play Franco, they stay behind the turret. I Flickr combo them out. And when I play rafaella, well... It does not matter anymore, they are dead anyway. And watch your better games, you will figure out a lot of stuff out. I cannot tell you how many times I was completely surrounded but they were too afraid of me to even attack. It was hilarious.
For that particular example, if your jungler wants to do a risky steal, on a quarter hp, he is an idiot and represents a liability. You could steal the blue by yourself if the enemy jgs respawn timer is long enough. But in 99% of the time, he would have been far better off helping the mage take mid turret so he can rotate more freely. Then he could figure out if he wants to go gold or exp lane. Why not shadow the jg constantly? He already lvl 9. They do not need your help anymore. Far more important to provide vision. Atlas could have just watched the enemy jgs blue and the mage could gank him, whilst jg could gank gold and xp. So, as you can probably tell, there is a lot to take into account. Every move can be good or bad. If you take hsis buff enough times, they will setup an ambush. Even if you do it at the beginning of the game, they will take note of your name and ambush you. So, keep an open mind. Also taking their buffs is not shutting them down completely. You do that by not allowing them to get kills. For that you need map awareness and team mates who know how to sit in order to provide vision. As you can tell, it is extremely situational. Had it been later in the game, beto would have stolen that blue, cause by the time the enemy respawns he would have not only retribution cooled down, but also be back in his own jungle.
Karina my first hero❤️, i started playing a few months ago and i started with Karina coz her skills are so easy to use and she is so terrifying to squishy enemies😍
I would recommend building dominance as her second item it's pretty good And also any one more def item on her depending on the enemies my wr is pretty good after building that way
The meta designed in a way,where karina will struggle a way to fit in the composition of the team,she is struggling against cc or against meta junglers like gusion, yet she still can be played ofc if the comp allows it
I'm a Karina main Tip - it's all about the timing with her. You time it right, savage. You time it wrong, dead. Learn to time with her and she can carry. Good choice. Plus Karina is easier to learn, unlike heroes like benedetta and gusion
Last night for the first time i reached mythical glory with 58.10%Wr in 284 matches solo rank push from epic....all thanks to ur tips and tricks betosky ❤️❤️
I still use tank karina as of today, I also use corrosion scythe with it as well to give her attack speed and cc. Tank karina is viable and against the mm you can kill them fairly fast as long as you wisely use your first skill
Karina is pretty op man. i was playing her in brawl without knowing that and just killing people with 10hp with her ult. and then realized my dmg is crazy and got a maniac
6:21 is no one going to talk about why that chang'e having a blue buff? Tell me he stole jawhead's like their own jungler's buff. Also jawhead's first skill needs a nerf so painful and it is hard to get out of his combo
I now decided to play karina... (I'll try ig..) me a mm, mage, support/tank user will practice her 'cuz for some reason moontoon wants me to be an assassin, moontoon been giving me Karina's skin like fr only 3 skin then ill be able to showoff my Karina's collection bruh, if not her it's another assassin's skin.
Karina is an MM's worst nightmare.
Her invulnerability to basic attack dmg + her skills makes her one of the most evasive assassins in the entire game, who can get quick kills and leave without a scratch.
Of course, mages are her usual weakness, especially ones with tracking stuns and high dmg like Eudora. Due to the nerf on tank karina, she can now no longer be the horrifying menace she was in the past (though some still build her tanky), it has directly revived high damage Karina, which is arguably more terrifying.
Also, Day 7 of requesting Betosky to open gameplay submissions from fans.
I think Karina will be really useful in the next update since its most definetely gonna be a DPS Meta. Btw dont reply to that telegram beto its a scam
@@slimslimee4411 I personally hate Karina because she counters Hanzo pretty hard. Ghost can't even hit her using 2nd skill and since I need basic attack stacks to unlock my 1st skill....
Yeah, she's very annoying. Her being part of the new meta scares me lmao
@@yoshivaderworks3236 I agree not even building athena's shield will be enough to stop a full dmg karina bcs of that bs true dmg passive. Most likely she may be a ban priority next season
And shes a perfect counter for wanwan with her case and 1 skill
Tank karina is still good but not as good as before
I don't think when Bruno said "Grabe Karina", it meant that Karina (or you, Betosky) is bad. It's more like they're amazed on how impressive you are at cleaning up after that Atlas set. He's like, "Damn, Karina".
Yeah its more like "karina is insane" ina good type of way
Lol im a filipino and I understand what bruno is saying😭 at the end of the game he typed “grabe karina” which translates to “this karina is insane” or “this karina is too much” something like that lol.
Edit:
7:27 he also said “Ayoko na” which means “I give up” lol, beto be bullying players
Ye ur right im also philipino
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Thanks for translating lol
10:42 He could've meant "Wow Karina" because in some areas grabe means overkill or severe or just to commemorate something someone did really good.
When Bruno said "Grabe Karina!" He's acknowledging your skills as a player Beto. And Im sure Bruno feels privileged to play against you. 🇵🇭
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Just a small correction in the end when the enemy bruno says "Grabe Karina" it actually means something like "Wow Karina" not necessarily "bad Karina" - viewer from ph 🇵🇭
Yeah ~
It's more like "too much"
@@birb9425 nah, its actually "wow" in slang translation
@@birb9425 Yes, it's most literal translation is "too much". But it also shares the same usage as "wow" in that it's used to express astonishment at something. To simplify things for our English speakers here, "grabe" can be translated as "on another level". In this case "grabe Karina" is along the lines of "Karina is on another level" or "You're on another level Karina", and it can be good or bad depending on how it's said or used. It's either praise for the good performance, or a quip about not having to go that hard.
"too much karina" doesnt even make sense.. its like "omg karina"
Dang these people are fast
That's what she said
@@ashley_said_what who your mom
@@ashley_said_what lmao
@@ashley_said_what lol
"In the world of Kungfu speed defines the winner"
She has been out of the meta for a long time but I love seeing you play her. So graceful chasing those balls.
Out of the meta???? Lmao when tf!?
Nub
It's more like she's not picked as often, doesn't mean they're non-meta
She's just not picked that often anymore, but she's definitely still meta
Lol out of meta Lmao 🤭🤣🤣🤣
Karina, just like Yve still remains a really strong hero in the current meta even though they're picked less often. The reason why she is not picked often is because other heroes who have strong cc such as atlas, franco who can stop karina and a lot of sustain heroes with lifesteal/regen abilities such as Esmeralda and Ruby who can deal with the sudden burst dmg and true dmg. I still think she is a nightmare for a lot maybe even all heroes, she excels the fundementals of an assassin jungler, while also having the flexibility to go a little bit tanky (semi-tank) bc of her true dmg passive that compensates the lack of offensive magic items. Also can you try Esmeralda or Ruby, I want to know your opinion if they are still good picks.
What i like about Karina is her true dmg and her resilience. All you need is calamity reaper, concentrated energy, and genius wand ( if they have magic def). Rest you can build tanky items. I still prefer calamity reaper above CoD because of true dmg. I also prefer bloody reti over ice retri because of the regen
The fuck is a cod? Cock of destiny thing?
And yes, it is an intentional misspell. Lol.
Always waiting for new vids! Keep ballin’, man!
The fact that betosky San was able to remember the build map of winter truncheon just shows how good he is at micromechanics
It's simple memorization and not a micro but it's fundamental and easy for everyone to practice to get better at the game. You benefit greatly from it especially if you know which Tier 2 items to buy first to maximize their value until you sell/upgrade them mid to late game.
There is no physical def items in magic slots. That easy to remember
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The hero that'll give you the most satisfying Savage of your life
I thought Beto was about to use the doon duelist then you know it's game over for the enemy 🔥🔥🔥
Ive mental issue, 3 years ago i always watch your video... This night i remember you again im stressout finding your channel in new account, i almost trowing my phone, i found you when tyipinf cyclops tips and trick.. I hope you playing cyclops again😞😞
Watching Beto since from last two years... Got to learn many things... Thanks alot bro
As a karina user, it is true that people don't often use karina or ban her
In mythic she's popularity is a bit low but her meta is high as above
5:24 the crunch sounds from aldous kill
when bruno is saying karina is too much had me dead 💀😂
I have a motto of never trusting your teammates. Play as if you'll the only one standing from winning or losing. Few minutes in, you can tell which teammates are helpful, try but die alot or just abandon helping and run away all the time so they don't die.
Karina is so op still after the nerfs on his tanky ness
I just finished ranking with Karina and it was a good game, just seeing you play her gives me more joy and hype to play her more
Actually the build of winter truncheon changed very long time ago..; )
Me : been spamming atlas for the last 20 game
Betosky : SMART!
And your enemy doesn't pick diggie/estes/faramis?
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احبك واحب طريقه لعبك😢
whenever beto is playing against filo there always has to be those kind of comments that never fail to crack me
is nobody gonna talk about how this 7:13 was just so cool TvT
YOU KNOW IT'S A GOOD DAY WHEN BETO UPLOADS
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3:16 the moment when he knew.. he fked up. Probably locked his phone, couldnt witness his death.
USE RUBY HALF DAMAGE AND HALF TANK but buy haas claws as your first item and buy 2 lifesteal staffs with your first 800 gold
The moment at 5:32 (Atlas wants to continue to pressure enemy's jungler) for me, is one of the hardest thing to learn as Roamer on Solo q, simply because you just didn't know if your playstyle and your team's are in sync. Sometimes it just puts me in dilemma, since i also wanted to completely shutdown enemy's junglers, but also want to prevent my own jungler's death too.
Any advice from experienced roamers out there ?
Depend on the jungler playstyle tho, if the jungler playstyle is active aggresive, you just follow him up, but if they play passively, so as a roamer you also must play defensively.
And and error wil occured in ever match, so dont really worry about that, just have fun
You adjust with your jungler playstyle and jungler hero. For ling, you can steal buffs all day, he can just jump in and retri it if you deal enough damage.
It also depends on your hero and the enemy jungler and the stage of the game you are in.
Like, you should not annoy a Roger jungler as a Tigreal on his blue, his mage will toast you before he gets you half hp.
Or a Hilda. She will obliterate you.
As a roamer, your job is to be proactive.
So, deal a bit of dmg to your junglers thing, then see if he wants to steal it.
If he ignores you, do not bother with that for the rest of the game until xp and gold lane push forward, they will definitely take the buff.
Instead, what you can do is gank mid before going gold or xp lane. Your mage will love an easy kill or free farm, by the time you get to the side lanes your skills should have cooled down.
Once on gold, either kill or damage the enemies there, enough so that the mm or fighter has to return to base, allowing your team to farm, immediately after, you need to go to the other side lane.
You will be passing through mid. So see if you can do something there or at least do not show yourself, so the other side lane will think you are in a bush somewhere.
You do not necessarily need to babysit your jungler after he gets hist first run, unless it is an objective.
Now, you need to zone the enemy jungler out, only in that case check if he is taking his buff. If he is, annoy him so he uses his retribution and well, if you can, steal it, lol.
Basically, you need to be very efficient with what you do, always calculate your every move.
I mean, when I get bored I just kill people with the tank. I find it is easier to win if I feed all my lanes a bit, rather than just my jg or mm.
A one item difference will snowball, imagine if every one in your team has that.
If you see a dumb player, just do not help him. If he cannot score a kill, his gold will drop significantly every death, it is far more efficient to kill minions rather than chase them.
Basically, always think what your next move is. Expect there to be some issues due to counterplays or just bad timings. Adjust to how your team behaves. Try to profit from anything. Everything. You might not be able to do anything, but your presence there will affect the enemies.
When I play my Tigreal, they do not exit from under their turrets. I Flickr combo them out. 😂
When I play Franco, they stay behind the turret. I Flickr combo them out.
And when I play rafaella, well... It does not matter anymore, they are dead anyway.
And watch your better games, you will figure out a lot of stuff out. I cannot tell you how many times I was completely surrounded but they were too afraid of me to even attack. It was hilarious.
For that particular example, if your jungler wants to do a risky steal, on a quarter hp, he is an idiot and represents a liability.
You could steal the blue by yourself if the enemy jgs respawn timer is long enough. But in 99% of the time, he would have been far better off helping the mage take mid turret so he can rotate more freely.
Then he could figure out if he wants to go gold or exp lane.
Why not shadow the jg constantly? He already lvl 9. They do not need your help anymore.
Far more important to provide vision. Atlas could have just watched the enemy jgs blue and the mage could gank him, whilst jg could gank gold and xp.
So, as you can probably tell, there is a lot to take into account. Every move can be good or bad.
If you take hsis buff enough times, they will setup an ambush. Even if you do it at the beginning of the game, they will take note of your name and ambush you.
So, keep an open mind. Also taking their buffs is not shutting them down completely. You do that by not allowing them to get kills.
For that you need map awareness and team mates who know how to sit in order to provide vision.
As you can tell, it is extremely situational. Had it been later in the game, beto would have stolen that blue, cause by the time the enemy respawns he would have not only retribution cooled down, but also be back in his own jungle.
Luv ya Beto and also Merry Christmas!!
Late video always come awesome.... Stay safe n happy young brother beto🤝
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10:44 to be fair Grabe means wow or something in the lines of dang dude that's busted or something
more of a compliment? than being Bad Karina.
Thank you for reminding others (karina main here no:1 in my place)
Now that build is mine 🌚
Day 9 of requesting betosky to play Roger jungler
10:50. He didn't say bad karina, He said Wow, karina.
Just in time for my lunch, yey a video to watch while eatinggg!!
Karina my first hero❤️, i started playing a few months ago and i started with Karina coz her skills are so easy to use and she is so terrifying to squishy enemies😍
yes, beto. they did change Winter Truncheon's requirements. they changed the armor to HP.
I would recommend building dominance as her second item it's pretty good
And also any one more def item on her depending on the enemies my wr is pretty good after building that way
I'm a simple man, I see my main Karina, I CLICK
still using her after years hiatus in playing ml. i miss the old, but this new karina is a lot better and much fun to use.
10:47 bruno did not said bad karina it actually meant that something like "wow whoever playing karina was a god" or just simply saying good
Day 1 of asking betosky to play kagura as core😁😁😁
First time I'm watching in the first minute of uploading hahaha
Nice vid. You should also try freddrin jungler
Proud to see this game as atlas main, good game btw beto
Try argus next, havent seen anyone use him in so long
Thank you for your appreciation of your Arab followers by putting Arabic translation ❤️
Betosky playing in Philippines server, salute💖
I started to main karina after watching beto's videos about her
just bought my karina.. please teach me the basics master betosky
The meta designed in a way,where karina will struggle a way to fit in the composition of the team,she is struggling against cc or against meta junglers like gusion, yet she still can be played ofc if the comp allows it
I recommend beto playing bruno as he got a new skin and also on a hype :)
Hi man love your videos i stop it after just 1:30 to ask you how and in what world diggie counter atlas ?!!! 😮
Too good Boss 👍 too fast
Keep it up Boss 💜💜
Trying to learn Karina ......i couldn't ask for a better timing beto
I'm a Karina main
Tip - it's all about the timing with her. You time it right, savage. You time it wrong, dead.
Learn to time with her and she can carry. Good choice. Plus Karina is easier to learn, unlike heroes like benedetta and gusion
@@pranavpant14 omg thanks so much............means a lot🤧✨💗....having difficulties
what do yall think about z3zeys tierlist?
probably would be a little bit different for solo q IMO.
Yes i think same bro
2:39
You likey or Bpp
another beto banger 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
As an Atlas main... Im proud of his set :)
The bgm at the earlier part of the video is rather exquisite I must say
Last night for the first time i reached mythical glory with 58.10%Wr in 284 matches solo rank push from epic....all thanks to ur tips and tricks betosky ❤️❤️
I still use tank karina as of today, I also use corrosion scythe with it as well to give her attack speed and cc. Tank karina is viable and against the mm you can kill them fairly fast as long as you wisely use your first skill
Betosky. As godly as ever
7:27 not bruno giving up after beto killed him 💀💀💀💀
i think you should try the combo 3-2-3-1 when you just want to one shoot the squishy ennemies, they have way less chances to escape
Wish I could the game this smoothly 🙂.
I like your roaming as a jungler. Need 2s to kill mm. What a op hero.
GRABE KARINA means ferocious, brutal or cruel. It is actually an appreciation or bowing down to Beto's skills.
Karina is pretty op man. i was playing her in brawl without knowing that and just killing people with 10hp with her ult. and then realized my dmg is crazy and got a maniac
No one realised how funny Jawhead's nick is?
6:21 is no one going to talk about why that chang'e having a blue buff? Tell me he stole jawhead's like their own jungler's buff. Also jawhead's first skill needs a nerf so painful and it is hard to get out of his combo
Karina is just such a killing machine, People need to take notes
Hi there sir.. what a great game.. can I request a game play and tutorial for Julian?
Its always a good gameplay when the comment section has an item 😍
felt bruno HAHSHAHSHAHW UMAY PAG GANTO KALABAN
WOW NICE VIDEO 🔥
KEEP IT UP DONE LIKE AND MY FULL SUPPORT 😉
Top Global Natalia is here 😉
GOD BLESS YOU 🥰
Day 8 :-) for jawhead romer n lots of love from India ❤️
HHAHAH laptrip bruno 7:27
That's true.. her dmge insane
Sweet. Day #8 asking for Lylia jungler gameplay :)
Now its time for me to play Karina let's go 🤧😂😂
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I follow beto since 2019 hahahah
betosky é o melhor sim❤️
Til this day actually Karina is really good, if you can find the right time to engage you're gonna be unstoppable
Day 9 of asking betosky to use jawhead as the jungler.
Beto i would like to request one last game of hanabi before her revamp pls
I miss him "Hey Guy's" day 2 :(
I now decided to play karina... (I'll try ig..) me a mm, mage, support/tank user will practice her 'cuz for some reason moontoon wants me to be an assassin, moontoon been giving me Karina's skin like fr only 3 skin then ill be able to showoff my Karina's collection bruh, if not her it's another assassin's skin.
Hii guys we are organizing a tournament. This is free for all teams. We will upload on TLFT RUclips channel. With Hindi commentry.
Day 1 requesting betosky to play johnson jungle
Is karrina good with calamities reaper or that twin blades...?
in the 10:45 mark, Bruno actually said Wow or Good karina, google translate is f*cked
Yup Karina is really scary in good hands