@@everything_huawei_pro4743 It doesn't, but hey, if you want to compare the camera king in the world to a device which doesn't even have google services anymore, sure, because it would just make you look stupid. Huawei was great, which is what caused Samsung to be better than it.
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Tbh, the big zoom is super useful to read signs too far away to see with my eyes. Yes, far, far far from actual big zoom optics, but definitely very handy day-to-day.
Yeah, for me having a reasonable camera always in your pocket (it's a phone) makes work easier. Make a few photographs of the scene you are working, and go back to your desk or place where you can sit and look at the pictures. I even used my phone for soldering a fix on a prototype, because the wire was too thin for my eyes to see. Added bonus is that I can shoot a lot of picture of my wife and cats.
I love how everyone battles over which smartphones get better zooming, until you get proper optics onto a smartphone, its just a battle of who has better AI, and who can utilize multiple different cameras in synchronization better.
Final user doesn't give a damn of how the final image was processed. The fact is S22 Ultra has the best final delivery in zoom category. Being it A.I. or not..
I would be already super happy, if they could compete with a Panasonic Zs70, but even against a Panasonic Zs70 at 720mm no smartphone has a chance. It's a huge difference. Currently, the only solution is a bigger camera bump or a retractable lens. I nearly always have a Panasonic Zs camera in my jacket.
Love to zoom!!! I was comparing some moon photos taken with a Canon power shot S60 compared to my S21 Ultras zoom. As with your comparison the clarity differences are quite noticeable. But just the fact that the smartphones can now hang in there with these DSLR cameras and then fit back in your pocket is so impressive. Speaking as someone with a visual impairment, I have been anxiously waiting for some smart glasses that have been fitted with these Periscope zoom cameras like Samsung has. I truly think there is some potential there to help people. ✌️
i don't think there is any smartphone that can get any closer to any DSLR, as soon as you open the files in a pc you'll see that it's not close at all, for sure it's impressive and looks good in your phone screen and social media but there is just no way a phone camera can come any closer to any DSLR camera, i'm not even gonna talk about modern Mirrorless cameras For me the results he got from the nikon could've been way better using manual mode escpecially the night photos
@@everything_huawei_pro4743 I strongly disagree! I actually own a mate 20x with the same camera system you mention. I have compared it with my S21 Ultra and made my own decisions. The zoom is far superior. And I can assure you neither them suck. Put your money where your mouth is and actually go buy something instead of yammering on, and give us your own experience🙄
@@everything_huawei_pro4743 I literally have 2 videos that I shot this spring in my garden with both of these phones to compare! Besides Leica is no longer partnered with Huawei and I cannot use any of their ecosystem any longer because of my location. That mate 20x was my first flagship and I had every intention of sticking with the brand. I am still using it sometimes! And I did take some good pictures and videos with it.
I stopped using Canon and Nikon. My highest was the Powershot 5IS, as that was a replacement for the faulty 1IS (CMOS manufacturing fault). I soon discovered that phones started to make better pictures than that powershot, more stable and with better low light conditions. In fact for me it was the first steady picture I could take. With the camera's I had to ask my wife as she has a steady hand. I still bought one cheap pentax for in the water. Soon to be replaced with IP67 rated phones in a Ghostek Nautical. Later I borrowed one 10x optical zoom sony handheld. That was indeed better quality in the bright sun. But once it turned dark, my Note 9 outperformed that camera easily. I take a lot of pictures, and I mean a lot. The phone interface is easy, so it is easily from pic to zoom in. So for me, my phone is the only camera I use for professional reasons. Sharp pictures is a good reason. Not nice pictures. The objects I photograph are network equipment and stuff like that. A powerful Zoom camera would only be a hobby thing for me. If I need beautiful pictures, I will just hire someone that has a camera like that and knows how to use it ;-). And don't forget the lighting in the bedroom etc... Eh, I mean outside...
when using a professional camera for night photographie, you need to use manual mode instead of auto mode, even phones have that option too and you could've got better results for booth, but still you'll get way better quality with a professional camera because of the lens not just the big sensor
Its not a big sensor tho, its a one inch sensor at best. A full frame or medium frame sensor are large sensors. This p1000 isn't a professional camera by any stretch of the imagination.
While shooting the moon, samsung shows details only past 30x because even at 10x zoom it is still using 3x lens and cropping in as 10x is extremely dark. It is only when you get to 30x zoom it switches to 10x lens so it shows details only then. You can easily check that out will pro mode or from expert raw which will forcefully use 10x lens. zooming while taking video is also another way to know how it works just pull down the exposure if you don't want the moon to look like a street lamp. Moon shots with 100x is a different story as at 100x it uses AI sharpening because at 100x digital zoom, the moon looks blurry.
@@DeepDarkier It fully switches when its well illuminated but whenever there is low light condition, it won't actively switch at 10x....it will switch on 20x or 30x depending on the light condition
Is it really possible to do this? If so, then the limitation of 20x zoom in video recording can be overcome. Can we do this (hold down the the shutter button while being zoomed in on the photo-mode) once we switch on the camera app.
The Moon looks like a blob at lower zoom ranges due to exposure metering. With manual exposure you can get the correct exposure and see a proper representation. Of course it won't have details still on the 3x on a phone, but also won't be a streetlight.
I have the P1000 and the S21 Ultra (not S22, so can't comment), and, whereas there's no comparison when zooming (P1000 wins hands down), the s21 Ultra is still really good zooming in good light.
To be fair, the camera tech inside the smartphone is tiny compared to the nikon camera. the zoom picture quality is good considering the size difference, and a smartphone is much easier to carry around everywhere compared to a big bulky camera.
The ultras do in fact take real moon photos, it's "enhanced" by ai, and not a filter. The scene optimizer mode in the default camera app has ai trained specifically for around 30 different scenes to optimize photos and touch them up to look better. The moon is one of these. It is indeed a real image of the moon, just enhanced by ai to look sharper. The difference being the ai knows what it has to do so that's how you can get epic moon shots. If you disable the scene optimizer, it won't take as good of a shot.
In doing this comparison of the different zooms, I noticed that the Samsung as a smartphone is better at 5x and 10x optical zoom in daytime than the Nikon, which is still a bridge camera. Is it possible for a smartphone to pass a bridge (which is of semi-professional photo-video class) ? A notable drawback of the Nikon Coolpix P1000 is the rather weak 1/2.3-inch sensor, which is not 1-inch like, for example, other bridge cameras (Panasonic FZ2000 or Sony RX10IV), which they surpass the Nikon P1000 in this aspect, even though it has the best optical (125x) and digital zoom of all cameras on the market (up to 250x, respectively, the maximum focal length of 6000mm). Further: starting with the Samsung's 20x hybrid and 30x digital...100x zooms, it's only here that the difference is noticeable, with the Nikon managing to outdo the Samsung in detail (even at 250x), but, not the Panasonic or Sony, which, at these approaches, have a more stable image, while Nikon shakes (the explanation I showed above, its weaker sensor). Interestingly, at night, on the 5x, 10x or hybrid 20x optical zooms of the Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra, the Nikon manages to surpass the Samsung, having better brightness (it helps 125x optical and hybrid zoom). As for the Moon, comparing the Nikon P1000 with the Panasonic FZ2000 (which I have it), at the maximum focal length range (where the Nikon has the upper hand, 6000mm vs. 2880mm), its craters are seen in greater detail on the Nikon, while at Panasonic its image is more stable, not so shaky, thanks to the 1 inch sensor it has and as such its pictures are of better quality. The Sony RX10IV has the same advantage over the Nikon Coolpix P1000, with a focal length of up to 3600mm, where the image of the Moon is as stable as possible and, also, its pictures are of better quality, thus proving its superior bridge class. In this race, of course, Samsung, as a smartphone, excludes itself from the competition, having an inconclusive digital zoom, the Moon is seen almost completely blurred. 🤗📷✨
très beau résumé technique les capteurs qui les équipent , mais le Sony RX10IV coute le double du Nikon P1000 et le Samsung très cher sera vite HS a cause de l'obsolescence programmée par Samsung tous les Samsung connaissent cette fin
calling the Nikon P1000 a professional Zoom Camera is like calling a Golf GTI a professional Race Car. The Nikon is a camera and can take photos, the golf is a car that can drive - but both of them are as far from professional than the moon is from the earth xD
@ Roberto Fabikann: Absolutely right! I've tested the P1000. Zoom Level is great but the picture quality ooc is just average. So i sent the camera back.
6:07 Why is your moon on the s22 ultra red? I took a photo of the moon (30x and 100x) and it was a moon GREY color, not a red-ish shade. I could slide the saturation bar all the way to the left and right and there was no color change either. Yes I am using an s22 ultra. No there was no manually applied filter. I just opened the photo app, aimed it at the moon, zoomed in, and took a realistic looking photo. So why is yours red?
@@tervits Interesting... So the image he was viewing was not embedded? It would be appreciated if you could perhaps clarify your reply. I'm not exactly a tech guy, but I'd like to know more.
Nikon P1000 is a consumer grade with nice features camera not a pro level camera. Nikon had the Raw photo option. So the output file would be even greater than straight out of camera JPGs. Meaning the gap would be even greater between the two cameras. 6:15 is not an AI trick. The phone just under exposes as the metering system meter the light from the subject. The phone uses matrix metering most probably.. Phone camera is the best solution for everyday uses and more flexibility.
Great video, tho must say that P1000 is not professional camera :-) It's a bridge camera that by definition is not professional. I totally agree with you that there is no point of doing more than 10x on S22U. :-) Awesome video. 👌
I still don't see 100x that important because the main point in my opinion is the 10x optical zoom on the S22 Ultra and 100x is just maximum digital zoom. But of course the Nikon takes miles better zoom pictures because it's a camera times and times larger than the whole phone lol and it's zoom is not fixed but continuous optical zoom. But I'm curious why didn't you attach the telescope lens to the 10x periscope lens camera.
When you mention that a moon filter is applied to the real moon, that is incorrect, it adjusts the exposure (you can test it in a lamp at your home or using pro mode tweaking ISO or f stops) and then it does post processing
In the future this could be maybe possible with "spaceplates" or with an array of metalenses. The maximum effective(!) lens diameter of the Nikon P1000 is 6.7cm and phones are larger than 6.7cm. So it could actually even outperform it in the far future.
Thanks for the video :) Actually I checked by hidding each lens on S21 ultra : - up to 9,9 x = main - 10x = tele 1 (the little next to laser sensor) 10x doesn't work if tele 1 hidden (black screen) - 10,1x to 100X = tele 2 (no difference if tele 1 hidden) BUT if tele 1 is hidden, 10x (or really 10,1x ? ) is possible with tele 2 with apparently no difference compared to 10x tele 1. I will check more because it would mean the tele 1 is useless and not combined with tele 2.
Phone cameras are great and I would rather rely on my phone when travelling than have to use a DSLR. People get too caught up in megapixels and zooms. There's no comparison though, the bigger sensor is always superior. Dynamic range, noise. You are retaining detail in shadows and highlights a small sensor will never do. This is why video is still best on a big sensor with lower megapixel count - more light hitting a bigger pixel. If you like to take photos for social media stick with your phone. If you like taking amazing photos buy an apsc/full frame mirrorless.
Apparently the theory that Samsung was/is applying moon filters and faking their moon shots isn't true. Although this was done with one of the Hauwei phones in the past, Samsung claims that "the camera’s AI Super Resolution takes multiple frames of the moon and assembles a more detailed final image"
6:15 you're looking at the same moon but for 3x and 10x the galaxy isn't able to expose properly with leads to a crappy ovverexposed moon. At30x the moon fills much more of the frame so the galaxy expose properly and it is more decent
Thanks for digiscoping tips. You should make videos showing the maximum zoom of the IPHone 13 Pro Max matched with a spotting scope at relatively low magnification compared with P1000 at measure 1 - 5 mile distances at letters etc to note differences available with digiscoping.
Nide comparison! Since I have that phone, my bridge camera (Sony RX10 III) stays in its bag almost all of the time. One this should be strictly noted: The moon shot filter of the Galaxy S22 indeed does adjust the exposure settings of the camera in order to be able to make the moon visible. You can do that with the manual settings when you play around with the ISO and exposure time values in Pro mode. So the auto filter does NOT add artificial moon image or something else as the video intends to explain (also visible from the comparison images that the moon is in the same positions and phase)!
So please explain me from where NON EXISTENT DETAILS come from? The S22 FAKES THE MOON IMAGE. Literally the same with Stellina (this 0815 hobo "telescope" for 4 grand)... but at least they were "honest" enough to make it a quality a 400mm Refractor can have for real!
P1000 is by no means a professional camera. It may look in the realm of dslr/mirrorless but it’s no way near a pro camera. It’s a bridge camera, aimed at those that want an in between of a point and shoot with one lens that fits all and a dslr. They’re a point and shoot with some slr features.
given the current controversy, is this comparison at 6:10 doing at the same time (date), as the texture from the real Nikon photo is different with the one from Samsung.. (especially in the lower section near the shadow cut off)
I made a test myself on MotionCam Pro app which doesnt allow any filter to be applied, and guess what, i took a photo of the moon (50 ISO and very high SP) so much better than the stock camera app in the phone, so it wasnt a filter after all and it was just a bad smooth-processed image, so please make sure before jumping into conclusion, this could affect people, thank you
You can't really call the p1000 a professional camera... A full frame camera maybe, but definitely not the p1000. Its a bridge camera with a small sensor. I'll still choose my Lumix S5 and my 150-600mm lens over that 3000mm bridge camera. Hell I would choose my Canon m6 mkii with that same lens other either of these.
Really great video. I like that zoom stuff. When you add telescope to the Samsung - is it also possible to enable optical zoom on the phone to improve the effect? I am afraid that two optical zooms cannot work together.
To be fair the 30x wasn't too far off. But it would make a difference in the final photo size. Are all these comparisons on the same size file? Also use pro mode on the Samsung to get rid of that "moon filter" You usually have to adjust settings to get a perfect shot. I can even get decent moon pics on my s20 At 10x zoom its using a different sensor too. Once you zoom in far enough it switches or blends the cameras/sensors together
The moon filter isn't actually changing the moon but adding sharpness and a lot more (I tried to trick my phone by zooming in to 30x on a fake moon and it looks just like the toy moon I took the pic of (it also sharpend it
6:10 it is not a Trick btw there no fake texture or photo substitution happening its simply using AI to enhance details but doesn't fake it at all it has been tested before and proven to not be faked.. i honestly think its impressive how far phones have come...
You couldn't see moon properly with 10x because the phone is switching to zoom lens only with big zoom levels. Try any random photo at night with 10x zoom - the phone will still use its main camera (because sensor is way bigger). So that moon that you saw with 10x zoom is the moon from main camera.
Actually I checked by hidding each lens on S21 ultra : - up to 9,9 x = main - 10x = tele 1 (the little next to laser sensor) 10x doesn't work if tele 1 hidden (black screen) - 10,1x to 100X = tele 2 (no difference if tele 1 hidden) BUT if tele 1 is hidden, 10x (or really 10,1x ? ) is possible with tele 2 with apparently no difference compared to 10x tele 1. I will check more because it would mean the tele 1 is useless and not combined with tele 2.
I mean it's kind of obvious if you think about it. If it can't capture small details like craters, how is it possible to get an image of the moon with details smaller than the craters?
Every camera that uses machine learning digital zoom fakes its zoom photos, but I guess some people don't understand what AI digital zoom means. Samsung has officially confirmed that they use AI for their zoom photos.
@@CrestFallxn Actually after some research I can confirm it's adding details through AI. Apparently it's using an AI to shade the craters to make it look more detailed.
Thank you very much for this video!! I've been drooling over the Nikon P1000 since it was announced back in 2018. In my country, Chile, the price it's 1.290.900 chilean pesos... , about 1.378 Euros... that it's a really big amount of money... and obiously out of my reach.... My naive hope it's that one day the price will drop to a reacheable level... but it's not likely to happen... Greetings from Chile!!
Regarding your claim at 05:55 Have you ever heard about overexposure? At x10 the photo is overexposed because most of it is black and at x30 it is exposed correctly. Try manual controls at x10 and you'll a good image. Anyway the image at x30 is real.
*sigh*… time to call out Versus: there is no superimposed moon at 6:18. It’s the real moon. The craters and shadows line up. It’s heavily processed, sure, but there’s no fake photo there. That said, nice video otherwise.
Perhaps fake wasn't the right word - but with the AI playing around with the footage so much that it doesn't look real, a lot of big tech sites and channels on RUclips also say it's not a real photo.
@@versus_com that's fair; I guess it depends what you'd consider a 'fake' photo. I agree the AI very heavily processes the photo, wayyy more than it does with other photos, and might even be recognizing what it thinks are craters and giving them more distinct outlines by playing around with the brightness and color values of those pixels. However, with computational photography being such a big part of smartphone cameras these days, I wouldn't necessarily consider that photo fake (that is my opinion though).
The primary camera in the Samsung (not the zoom) uses a 1/1.33″ sensor which is bigger than the one in the P1000. For 24mm shots the Samsung should have an edge in dynamic range.
And then remember that the Nikon P1000 has a 1/2.5" sensor. This is tiny. The only reason why it rocks at moon photographs is that the lens is larger. Small lenses sux!
4:56 ok so but off topic But to all my iPhone users out there, y’all know how if you take a picture, then you take a separate video and just screenshot an image from the video The image from the video is better? Well since videos on iPhones are more detailed then photos from what I know, I think even with 5x optical zoom next year Apple will have the best 5x telephoto camera for video specifically Who agrees? Or disagrees?😅
the AI faked moon is pretty bad... but it makes sense, the S22 is NEVER EVER capable of doing what at least 1-2kg of camera + lens are capable of. The Nikon P1000 is even a fair comparison. If i would throw in my R7 and RF 800 F11... 1280mm without crop and anywhere 1800mm in 4k crop video with really nice and sharp images, as much the air allows you. But to be fair to the P1000: Its in bright sunlight (or the moon) also capable of getting that much range that you lose detail because of heat haze which we cant avoid anyways.
im sorry - but the P1000 is a good camera, but its a consumer level point and shoot camera. Yea, it is expensive for a consumer, but in no way is it considered a "Professional" camera. It looks like one but that's where the similarities end. Of course the main reason for the differences is the sensor size and the glass. A cell phone is constrained by both factors. You cant fit a large sensor on a cell phone and a huge amount of glass. so of course is going. be worse.
6:18 If u say Samsung isn't showing the same moon, then how come the dark patches are of same shape on both the images?? 🤨 Great comparison, nevertheless. Professional camera for a reason.
very nice comparing. samsung moon zoom clear photo is not done by the camera hardware, it's internal software... u bet the Samsung..... good job man...
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Galaxy S22 did very well for a pocket camera. Whos carrying a 10lb, foot long camera . Im buying the S22
If you only want photos, the P1000 is cheaper than the phone, and is only 6 inches long in non-zoom mode.
HUAWEI Mate20 pro from 2018 Have a better Zoom / samsung s22 ultra from 2022 suck😂
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@@everything_huawei_pro4743 It doesn't, but hey, if you want to compare the camera king in the world to a device which doesn't even have google services anymore, sure, because it would just make you look stupid. Huawei was great, which is what caused Samsung to be better than it.
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Having tried 10x zoom in S22 Utlra, it's amazing how much smartphones have come in terms of zoom.
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Try 100x in 16:9
in fooling
@@MG-fi9ir 💀 in a cellphone it's just an adding. If you want to take photos go and buy a camera
@@MG-fi9ir in mooning
Tbh, the big zoom is super useful to read signs too far away to see with my eyes. Yes, far, far far from actual big zoom optics, but definitely very handy day-to-day.
Like binoculars in your pocket
Yeah, for me having a reasonable camera always in your pocket (it's a phone) makes work easier. Make a few photographs of the scene you are working, and go back to your desk or place where you can sit and look at the pictures. I even used my phone for soldering a fix on a prototype, because the wire was too thin for my eyes to see.
Added bonus is that I can shoot a lot of picture of my wife and cats.
I love how everyone battles over which smartphones get better zooming, until you get proper optics onto a smartphone, its just a battle of who has better AI, and who can utilize multiple different cameras in synchronization better.
Final user doesn't give a damn of how the final image was processed. The fact is S22 Ultra has the best final delivery in zoom category. Being it A.I. or not..
I would be already super happy, if they could compete with a Panasonic Zs70, but even against a Panasonic Zs70 at 720mm no smartphone has a chance. It's a huge difference. Currently, the only solution is a bigger camera bump or a retractable lens. I nearly always have a Panasonic Zs camera in my jacket.
all we can hope is some brand will come out with a mount for some external lens (well there's a Chinese one but it's crap)
Love to zoom!!!
I was comparing some moon photos taken with a Canon power shot S60 compared to my S21 Ultras zoom. As with your comparison the clarity differences are quite noticeable.
But just the fact that the smartphones can now hang in there with these DSLR cameras and then fit back in your pocket is so impressive.
Speaking as someone with a visual impairment, I have been anxiously waiting for some smart glasses that have been fitted with these Periscope zoom cameras like Samsung has. I truly think there is some potential there to help people. ✌️
Я тоже жду развития умных очков .
i don't think there is any smartphone that can get any closer to any DSLR, as soon as you open the files in a pc you'll see that it's not close at all, for sure it's impressive and looks good in your phone screen and social media but there is just no way a phone camera can come any closer to any DSLR camera, i'm not even gonna talk about modern Mirrorless cameras
For me the results he got from the nikon could've been way better using manual mode escpecially the night photos
@@everything_huawei_pro4743 I strongly disagree! I actually own a mate 20x with the same camera system you mention.
I have compared it with my S21 Ultra and made my own decisions. The zoom is far superior.
And I can assure you neither them suck.
Put your money where your mouth is and actually go buy something instead of yammering on, and give us your own experience🙄
@@everything_huawei_pro4743 I literally have 2 videos that I shot this spring in my garden with both of these phones to compare!
Besides Leica is no longer partnered with Huawei and I cannot use any of their ecosystem any longer because of my location. That mate 20x was my first flagship and I had every intention of sticking with the brand. I am still using it sometimes! And I did take some good pictures and videos with it.
I stopped using Canon and Nikon. My highest was the Powershot 5IS, as that was a replacement for the faulty 1IS (CMOS manufacturing fault). I soon discovered that phones started to make better pictures than that powershot, more stable and with better low light conditions. In fact for me it was the first steady picture I could take. With the camera's I had to ask my wife as she has a steady hand.
I still bought one cheap pentax for in the water. Soon to be replaced with IP67 rated phones in a Ghostek Nautical.
Later I borrowed one 10x optical zoom sony handheld. That was indeed better quality in the bright sun. But once it turned dark, my Note 9 outperformed that camera easily.
I take a lot of pictures, and I mean a lot. The phone interface is easy, so it is easily from pic to zoom in.
So for me, my phone is the only camera I use for professional reasons. Sharp pictures is a good reason. Not nice pictures. The objects I photograph are network equipment and stuff like that.
A powerful Zoom camera would only be a hobby thing for me. If I need beautiful pictures, I will just hire someone that has a camera like that and knows how to use it ;-). And don't forget the lighting in the bedroom etc... Eh, I mean outside...
when using a professional camera for night photographie, you need to use manual mode instead of auto mode, even phones have that option too and you could've got better results for booth, but still you'll get way better quality with a professional camera because of the lens not just the big sensor
Its not a big sensor tho, its a one inch sensor at best. A full frame or medium frame sensor are large sensors. This p1000 isn't a professional camera by any stretch of the imagination.
While shooting the moon, samsung shows details only past 30x because even at 10x zoom it is still using 3x lens and cropping in as 10x is extremely dark. It is only when you get to 30x zoom it switches to 10x lens so it shows details only then. You can easily check that out will pro mode or from expert raw which will forcefully use 10x lens. zooming while taking video is also another way to know how it works just pull down the exposure if you don't want the moon to look like a street lamp. Moon shots with 100x is a different story as at 100x it uses AI sharpening because at 100x digital zoom, the moon looks blurry.
This is the right answer!
no, it uses the 10x lens for 10x, you can see it jitters a bit and gets sharper when you move from 9.9x to 10x
@@DeepDarkier It fully switches when its well illuminated but whenever there is low light condition, it won't actively switch at 10x....it will switch on 20x or 30x depending on the light condition
You can use 100x zoom while recording if you hold down the the shutter button while being zoomed in on the photo-mode
Is it really possible to do this? If so, then the limitation of 20x zoom in video recording can be overcome. Can we do this (hold down the the shutter button while being zoomed in on the photo-mode) once we switch on the camera app.
The Moon looks like a blob at lower zoom ranges due to exposure metering. With manual exposure you can get the correct exposure and see a proper representation. Of course it won't have details still on the 3x on a phone, but also won't be a streetlight.
Thanks for the comparison! 😃👍
Did the daylight photography (HDR) on the S22 Ultra improve since launch?
No the highlight control is still a issue didn't fixed yet
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Now i'm waiting for S23U to get launched😁
Me too
Calling a bridge camera like the Nikon P1000 ‘professional’ is not strictly true. It’s a consumer camera, or at best a ‘prosumer’.
I have the P1000 and the S21 Ultra (not S22, so can't comment), and, whereas there's no comparison when zooming (P1000 wins hands down), the s21 Ultra is still really good zooming in good light.
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I've got both these devices. The P1000 is mind blowing I must say.
Can you load the picture from P1000 onto S22 using no cables? (wifi transfer or something)..
@@Musica-zp7zn yes
To be fair, the camera tech inside the smartphone is tiny compared to the nikon camera. the zoom picture quality is good considering the size difference, and a smartphone is much easier to carry around everywhere compared to a big bulky camera.
The ultras do in fact take real moon photos, it's "enhanced" by ai, and not a filter. The scene optimizer mode in the default camera app has ai trained specifically for around 30 different scenes to optimize photos and touch them up to look better. The moon is one of these. It is indeed a real image of the moon, just enhanced by ai to look sharper. The difference being the ai knows what it has to do so that's how you can get epic moon shots. If you disable the scene optimizer, it won't take as good of a shot.
In doing this comparison of the different zooms, I noticed that the Samsung as a smartphone is better at 5x and 10x optical zoom in daytime than the Nikon, which is still a bridge camera. Is it possible for a smartphone to pass a bridge (which is of semi-professional photo-video class) ? A notable drawback of the Nikon Coolpix P1000 is the rather weak 1/2.3-inch sensor, which is not 1-inch like, for example, other bridge cameras (Panasonic FZ2000 or Sony RX10IV), which they surpass the Nikon P1000 in this aspect, even though it has the best optical (125x) and digital zoom of all cameras on the market (up to 250x, respectively, the maximum focal length of 6000mm). Further: starting with the Samsung's 20x hybrid and 30x digital...100x zooms, it's only here that the difference is noticeable, with the Nikon managing to outdo the Samsung in detail (even at 250x), but, not the Panasonic or Sony, which, at these approaches, have a more stable image, while Nikon shakes (the explanation I showed above, its weaker sensor). Interestingly, at night, on the 5x, 10x or hybrid 20x optical zooms of the Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra, the Nikon manages to surpass the Samsung, having better brightness (it helps 125x optical and hybrid zoom). As for the Moon, comparing the Nikon P1000 with the Panasonic FZ2000 (which I have it), at the maximum focal length range (where the Nikon has the upper hand, 6000mm vs. 2880mm), its craters are seen in greater detail on the Nikon, while at Panasonic its image is more stable, not so shaky, thanks to the 1 inch sensor it has and as such its pictures are of better quality. The Sony RX10IV has the same advantage over the Nikon Coolpix P1000, with a focal length of up to 3600mm, where the image of the Moon is as stable as possible and, also, its pictures are of better quality, thus proving its superior bridge class. In this race, of course, Samsung, as a smartphone, excludes itself from the competition, having an inconclusive digital zoom, the Moon is seen almost completely blurred. 🤗📷✨
très beau résumé technique les capteurs qui les équipent , mais le Sony RX10IV coute le double du Nikon P1000 et le Samsung très cher sera vite HS a cause de l'obsolescence programmée par Samsung tous les Samsung connaissent cette fin
calling the Nikon P1000 a professional Zoom Camera is like calling a Golf GTI a professional Race Car. The Nikon is a camera and can take photos, the golf is a car that can drive - but both of them are as far from professional than the moon is from the earth xD
Bros trying to compare satellite cameras to the phone
@@PardeepSingh-qf6po you missed the commenter's point.
@@glorious240fps6 no I didn't. I'm joking
@ Roberto Fabikann: Absolutely right! I've tested the P1000. Zoom Level is great but the picture quality ooc is just average. So i sent the camera back.
@@sigaso it's image quality is like a smartphone... From 5 years ago XD
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Why is your moon on the s22 ultra red? I took a photo of the moon (30x and 100x) and it was a moon GREY color, not a red-ish shade. I could slide the saturation bar all the way to the left and right and there was no color change either.
Yes I am using an s22 ultra. No there was no manually applied filter. I just opened the photo app, aimed it at the moon, zoomed in, and took a realistic looking photo.
So why is yours red?
Because the moon you see is an image file already embedded in the phone.
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Interesting...
So the image he was viewing was not embedded?
It would be appreciated if you could perhaps clarify your reply. I'm not exactly a tech guy, but I'd like to know more.
Nikon P1000 is a consumer grade with nice features camera not a pro level camera.
Nikon had the Raw photo option. So the output file would be even greater than straight out of camera JPGs. Meaning the gap would be even greater between the two cameras.
6:15 is not an AI trick. The phone just under exposes as the metering system meter the light from the subject. The phone uses matrix metering most probably..
Phone camera is the best solution for everyday uses and more flexibility.
Great video, tho must say that P1000 is not professional camera :-) It's a bridge camera that by definition is not professional. I totally agree with you that there is no point of doing more than 10x on S22U. :-) Awesome video. 👌
I still don't see 100x that important because the main point in my opinion is the 10x optical zoom on the S22 Ultra and 100x is just maximum digital zoom. But of course the Nikon takes miles better zoom pictures because it's a camera times and times larger than the whole phone lol and it's zoom is not fixed but continuous optical zoom. But I'm curious why didn't you attach the telescope lens to the 10x periscope lens camera.
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Yeah, I was thinking the same.
When you mention that a moon filter is applied to the real moon, that is incorrect, it adjusts the exposure (you can test it in a lamp at your home or using pro mode tweaking ISO or f stops) and then it does post processing
Haha the thumbnail looks like of Mrwhosetheboss
3:37 Wtf, how a phone with a small camera is going to achieve an ugly giant camera unique and specifically for zoom? That review was funny.
In the future this could be maybe possible with "spaceplates" or with an array of metalenses. The maximum effective(!) lens diameter of the Nikon P1000 is 6.7cm and phones are larger than 6.7cm. So it could actually even outperform it in the far future.
Thanks for the video :)
Actually I checked by hidding each lens on S21 ultra :
- up to 9,9 x = main
- 10x = tele 1 (the little next to laser sensor) 10x doesn't work if tele 1 hidden (black screen)
- 10,1x to 100X = tele 2 (no difference if tele 1 hidden)
BUT if tele 1 is hidden, 10x (or really 10,1x ? ) is possible with tele 2 with apparently no difference compared to 10x tele 1.
I will check more because it would mean the tele 1 is useless and not combined with tele 2.
Phone cameras are great and I would rather rely on my phone when travelling than have to use a DSLR. People get too caught up in megapixels and zooms. There's no comparison though, the bigger sensor is always superior. Dynamic range, noise. You are retaining detail in shadows and highlights a small sensor will never do. This is why video is still best on a big sensor with lower megapixel count - more light hitting a bigger pixel. If you like to take photos for social media stick with your phone. If you like taking amazing photos buy an apsc/full frame mirrorless.
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Apparently the theory that Samsung was/is applying moon filters and faking their moon shots isn't true. Although this was done with one of the Hauwei phones in the past, Samsung claims that "the camera’s AI Super Resolution takes multiple frames of the moon and assembles a more detailed final image"
Informative ❤
Glad it was helpful!
Could you please also tell which Telescopic lens you used on Samsung ?
6:15 you're looking at the same moon but for 3x and 10x the galaxy isn't able to expose properly with leads to a crappy ovverexposed moon. At30x the moon fills much more of the frame so the galaxy expose properly and it is more decent
Thanks for digiscoping tips. You should make videos showing the maximum zoom of the IPHone 13 Pro Max matched with a spotting scope at relatively low magnification compared with P1000 at measure 1 - 5 mile distances at letters etc to note differences available with digiscoping.
Try the same test with S23 ultra, would be interesting.
Still I'm waiting for P-1000 Nikon Camera but not available.😓
Nide comparison! Since I have that phone, my bridge camera (Sony RX10 III) stays in its bag almost all of the time.
One this should be strictly noted: The moon shot filter of the Galaxy S22 indeed does adjust the exposure settings of the camera in order to be able to make the moon visible. You can do that with the manual settings when you play around with the ISO and exposure time values in Pro mode. So the auto filter does NOT add artificial moon image or something else as the video intends to explain (also visible from the comparison images that the moon is in the same positions and phase)!
So please explain me from where NON EXISTENT DETAILS come from?
The S22 FAKES THE MOON IMAGE.
Literally the same with Stellina (this 0815 hobo "telescope" for 4 grand)... but at least they were "honest" enough to make it a quality a 400mm Refractor can have for real!
@@harrison00xXx the guy taking the vidoes cant even use the phone right. the exposure was all wrong at first
your sony is much better than any smartphone camera
P1000 is by no means a professional camera. It may look in the realm of dslr/mirrorless but it’s no way near a pro camera. It’s a bridge camera, aimed at those that want an in between of a point and shoot with one lens that fits all and a dslr. They’re a point and shoot with some slr features.
given the current controversy, is this comparison at 6:10 doing at the same time (date), as the texture from the real Nikon photo is different with the one from Samsung.. (especially in the lower section near the shadow cut off)
Thanks for the work. I appreciate having a world where people like you are a part of the solution.
Dope dude 😎
Thanks 🔥
I made a test myself on MotionCam Pro app which doesnt allow any filter to be applied, and guess what, i took a photo of the moon (50 ISO and very high SP) so much better than the stock camera app in the phone, so it wasnt a filter after all and it was just a bad smooth-processed image, so please make sure before jumping into conclusion, this could affect people, thank you
You can't really call the p1000 a professional camera... A full frame camera maybe, but definitely not the p1000. Its a bridge camera with a small sensor.
I'll still choose my Lumix S5 and my 150-600mm lens over that 3000mm bridge camera. Hell I would choose my Canon m6 mkii with that same lens other either of these.
Moon zoom rhymes stunning bro.. 🔥🔥 you can be rap god 🤣🤣
The human shot on the max zoom has the galaxy photo looking like a GTA NPC 🤣
Really great video. I like that zoom stuff. When you add telescope to the Samsung - is it also possible to enable optical zoom on the phone to improve the effect? I am afraid that two optical zooms cannot work together.
Yes! We actually used the 3x optical zoom because it looked the best with the telescope.
@@versus_com Goin back & forth between the S22 & Ultra. Not sure why the hell these ya-hoos made this thing a 6.8" ?
To be fair the 30x wasn't too far off. But it would make a difference in the final photo size. Are all these comparisons on the same size file?
Also use pro mode on the Samsung to get rid of that "moon filter"
You usually have to adjust settings to get a perfect shot. I can even get decent moon pics on my s20
At 10x zoom its using a different sensor too. Once you zoom in far enough it switches or blends the cameras/sensors together
Súper good video broth
For the sec i thought he is mrwhoistheboss....but now i am his subscriber good content bro ❤️
Thank you bro! ❤️
The moon filter isn't actually changing the moon but adding sharpness and a lot more (I tried to trick my phone by zooming in to 30x on a fake moon and it looks just like the toy moon I took the pic of (it also sharpend it
Very cool video. What holder you use for S22U on telescope?
Just a regular tripod!
@@versus_com I doubt that is what the question was asking.
6:10 it is not a Trick btw there no fake texture or photo substitution happening its simply using AI to enhance details but doesn't fake it at all it has been tested before and proven to not be faked.. i honestly think its impressive how far phones have come...
You couldn't see moon properly with 10x because the phone is switching to zoom lens only with big zoom levels. Try any random photo at night with 10x zoom - the phone will still use its main camera (because sensor is way bigger). So that moon that you saw with 10x zoom is the moon from main camera.
Actually I checked by hidding each lens on S21 ultra :
- up to 9,9 x = main
- 10x = tele 1 (the little next to laser sensor) 10x doesn't work if tele 1 hidden (black screen)
- 10,1x to 100X = tele 2 (no difference if tele 1 hidden)
BUT if tele 1 is hidden, 10x (or really 10,1x ? ) is possible with tele 2 with apparently no difference compared to 10x tele 1.
I will check more because it would mean the tele 1 is useless and not combined with tele 2.
Oh wow, I didn't know Samsung were faking the moon photos
It was not fake
This trick was done by huawei
I mean it's kind of obvious if you think about it. If it can't capture small details like craters, how is it possible to get an image of the moon with details smaller than the craters?
Every camera that uses machine learning digital zoom fakes its zoom photos, but I guess some people don't understand what AI digital zoom means. Samsung has officially confirmed that they use AI for their zoom photos.
Wasnt fake. You can see the shades are the exact same from the nikon. Just that it was a bit blurry. Disappointed by Versus here
@@CrestFallxn Actually after some research I can confirm it's adding details through AI. Apparently it's using an AI to shade the craters to make it look more detailed.
Hope you have updated the software to the latest one on the s22 ultra. There is a lot of post processing in zoomed out photos.
Boi looking straight up gta character on Samsung 😂😂😂
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Thank you very much for this video!!
I've been drooling over the Nikon P1000 since it was announced back in 2018.
In my country, Chile, the price it's 1.290.900 chilean pesos... , about 1.378 Euros...
that it's a really big amount of money... and obiously out of my reach....
My naive hope it's that one day the price will drop to a reacheable level... but it's not likely to happen...
Greetings from Chile!!
Greetings!
Can you compare S22 Ultra and Magic 4 Pro +?
Regarding your claim at 05:55
Have you ever heard about overexposure?
At x10 the photo is overexposed because most of it is black and at x30 it is exposed correctly.
Try manual controls at x10 and you'll a good image.
Anyway the image at x30 is real.
*sigh*… time to call out Versus: there is no superimposed moon at 6:18. It’s the real moon. The craters and shadows line up. It’s heavily processed, sure, but there’s no fake photo there. That said, nice video otherwise.
Perhaps fake wasn't the right word - but with the AI playing around with the footage so much that it doesn't look real, a lot of big tech sites and channels on RUclips also say it's not a real photo.
@@versus_com that's fair; I guess it depends what you'd consider a 'fake' photo. I agree the AI very heavily processes the photo, wayyy more than it does with other photos, and might even be recognizing what it thinks are craters and giving them more distinct outlines by playing around with the brightness and color values of those pixels. However, with computational photography being such a big part of smartphone cameras these days, I wouldn't necessarily consider that photo fake (that is my opinion though).
Crazy how big that camera is but small the sensors of the phones are
The primary camera in the Samsung (not the zoom) uses a 1/1.33″ sensor which is bigger than the one in the P1000. For 24mm shots the Samsung should have an edge in dynamic range.
The statement that Nikon's P1000 is a professional camera made me smile!
And then remember that the Nikon P1000 has a 1/2.5" sensor. This is tiny. The only reason why it rocks at moon photographs is that the lens is larger. Small lenses sux!
@textversus14 - eh? what?
I have both cameras for my personal use s22 ultra and nikon p1000 there is no way to compare them
That was a mean looking mug shot 😆🤣
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Great, so where can I buy the telescope?
very cool . Now we need Nikkon to make a smartphone and put those lens in it and K.O
Nice comparison 👍
Glad you liked it!
3:22 - Samsung GTA Definitive Edition LMAO :D
Why aren't you guys showing that in Pro mode. one of the reasons I've bought it was since we can now use the ST in Pro mode and it's amazing..
The real question is... who needs a 100x zoom if your moon gets blurry and full of digital artifacts?
After watching some samples... I was shouting like... "Show me the moon"ey! Like Tom cruise. Lol!!
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can we put external zoom lens for smartphone in front of s22/s23 zoom camera?
4:56 ok so but off topic
But to all my iPhone users out there, y’all know how if you take a picture, then you take a separate video and just screenshot an image from the video
The image from the video is better? Well since videos on iPhones are more detailed then photos from what I know, I think even with 5x optical zoom next year Apple will have the best 5x telephoto camera for video specifically
Who agrees? Or disagrees?😅
Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra:
Let's try it again ... if you dare? 😅
Might be an idea for a future video, yes! 😃
dude when u zoom into the moon i dont think a phone pops in my head its more of a telescope
Love you ❤️❤️❤️❤️
the AI faked moon is pretty bad... but it makes sense, the S22 is NEVER EVER capable of doing what at least 1-2kg of camera + lens are capable of.
The Nikon P1000 is even a fair comparison. If i would throw in my R7 and RF 800 F11... 1280mm without crop and anywhere 1800mm in 4k crop video with really nice and sharp images, as much the air allows you.
But to be fair to the P1000: Its in bright sunlight (or the moon) also capable of getting that much range that you lose detail because of heat haze which we cant avoid anyways.
Canon 600d with 300mm lens 3x crop (130 usd) can take moon photos.
@@reduxmod4044 lol 300mm lens
I bet you are a fan of the trashy EF 75-300 😂
@@harrison00xXx toxic......
any real proof about the filter applied on moon, or just hunch ?
But i cant do a call and sms from Nikon p1000.
This was hard and detailed work i can say. Great. This is expected from only honest creator.😍🥰
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@@versus_com we really like your content. Let the fact speak 👍
Clicked on the thumbnail thought he's Mrwhosetheboss, got scammed💀
Calling the P1000 a "professional camera" is just like calling McDonald's "fine cuisine" 💀
But everyone loves McD's!
I like to see the comparisons again with the S23 ultra
havent been able to upgrade to the p1000 from my sx50 but yeah. optical zoom is king
Te zdjęcia są robione dodatkowo wszytskie przez jakiś teleskop tego typu ?
What is the name of 125x telescope lens you use on Samsung?
Just a random telescope - not an expensive one.
This channel lives up to its name
3:22 New GTA character.
odviously, the samsung one! :3
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0:11 This One Moment is More Expensive than My Whole Life 😂
im sorry - but the P1000 is a good camera, but its a consumer level point and shoot camera. Yea, it is expensive for a consumer, but in no way is it considered a "Professional" camera. It looks like one but that's where the similarities end. Of course the main reason for the differences is the sensor size and the glass. A cell phone is constrained by both factors. You cant fit a large sensor on a cell phone and a huge amount of glass. so of course is going. be worse.
I get asked this question a lot around which is better, i will now be pointing them towards this video.
This was like Moskvich (samsung s22 ultra) vs Mercedes-Maybach BRABUS 900 (Nikon P1000). Absolutely NO CHANCE for samsung!
The nikon P1000 is by no means a professional camera and was never marketed as one.
Optical vs digital
We all know which is going to win
10 times Optical vs 125 times optical. The Samsung might still win at 15 times by AI but afterwards, not a chance
@@fa14bi-78 exactly
There are most important factor inside the atmosphere for optical resolution - its the aperture of the optics...
100x on the photo with you in it, samsung has made you look like a gta character 😂
I love my P1000👍🏼 The next stepp - It‘s interesting to compare the p1000 with the Samsung S23Ultra…😉
6:18 If u say Samsung isn't showing the same moon, then how come the dark patches are of same shape on both the images?? 🤨
Great comparison, nevertheless. Professional camera for a reason.
on the nikon website they list the P1000 as a point and shoot camera ,, NOT A PROFESSIONAL camera.. just saying.. btw Great Video !
The Nikon p1000 is a beast the pictures you displayed are not the closest you can photograph of the moon. I’m an owner and I have gotten much closer.
very nice comparing. samsung moon zoom clear photo is not done by the camera hardware, it's internal software... u bet the Samsung..... good job man...