For those who have cavity walls I recommend filling the cavity first and then adding 75 or 100mm EWI. On top of that proper ventilation, ideally heat recovery system. Tricky areas are usually around roof eaves where often it's hard to insulate properly. In terms of durability of renders, for those who have some doubts i recommend going to Poland where over 90% of houses have EWI installed and you can check it for yourself. Most of my friends have it for 20-30 years and there is absolutely no issues at all.
Great to see you back, i hope everything is good, thanks for your videos over the years, you and Kirk Johnson, have giving me soo much confidence to plaster and rendering, thank you 👍🏻
Good work Blaine I did the Baumit course a few years back as well but we use a 1.5m toothed straight edge for the first coat and put the second pass on wetter and finish with spats. To be honest never really got on with the star contact like you said tends to tear up a bit, think ecorend FX4 is a much nicer product to work with but we’re all different 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners this is the opposite of future proofing. Ensuring in the future this rotting garbage will need removing. How do you sleep at night? How many elderly people have you sold this scam to?
Worth mentioning that there are limited scenarios where this insulation system is appropriate. On a ventilated cavity wall the benefit is undermined by the fact that you have outside air circulating behind the insulation layer. And on a solid wall you risk issues with interstitial damp, where they're designed to work with vapour open materials.
@@coolmonkey619very true. I don’t price for this system unless it’s a council grant. Don’t know if there’s any truth in it but was told what you save on your energy bill would take 40yrs to recuperate the cost of the work. So for me not worth quoting for just price for a straight out thin coat render
For the plugs you can get a eps router, perfectly cuts the recess. Tighten the mexhanical fixing so its snug into the eps inside this recess, then the plug finishes level and gap free.
Absolutely stunning work pal I did the baumit ewi course. Is it OK to diamond float star contact. How's it float up? Also who's your supplier for baumit I've a large ewi job to price up
Hi there , I’m a time served plasterer from way back and I’ve not done any rendering for over 30 years. I don’t know about modern materials but I am doing a job at home. I’ve removed all the vertical roof tiles from the front of the house ( trendy when the house was built in 1960 ) . I’ve put Eco therm insulation up and put cement board over the top of that, now I want to flat render it to match the rest of it. My problem is what material to use ? Like I said I haven’t done any rendering for over 30 years and I’m in my very very late 60’ . Any advice would be greatly appreciated. 👍
Blaine can the silicone render be applied to a masonry background after the base coat, or is it just insulation system and cement boards? Keep up the good work 👍
It makes no sense insulating the cold side of the wall . In building regs when you apply pir to cavity you fix it to inside block work leaving a 10mm gap between external wall and pir. Does this comply with current regs for something like an extension ?
What i really wonder. En did not see a video yet wo explain it. How to cover the bottum part from floating. Can we make this all the way till under ground somehow?
@ndewhurst1007 Polish people are proud, I'm sure even they would tell you that they're the "polish contractors". People need to stop feeling second-hand racism
@@Bergamot88yet still if it had been white English workers would their nationality have been mentioned?? Probably not. Polish tend to work a lot harder than the average English lad in my experience. Most English don’t want to work, the amount of English labourers I’ve seen who don’t want to lift a muscle unless it’s lifting their phone up ffs.
totally agree with you...alway rule your render in order to achieve a flat surface that will look good when the sun ''hits'' it from the ''sweet points'' ....for those that know what I mean!
Very informative video as usual - I'd be interested to know if such a system can be repaired. Ours is 10 years old and areas of the coloured render have cracked and come away to reveal the undercoat. Is it possible to apply a new layer of coloured render to patch?
Definitely not an insulation system, krend weber all same them insulation boards are nothing more than carrier boards , 1 good knock and its a hole, plus one year later all stained under windows etc
I'm in the process of doing mine and about to apply the base coat render, but will spray the silicone. Installing the insulation boards is relatively easy, but it takes a lot of time on your own. If I struggle with the applying the render I will hire a pro for that part. Doing the install yourself is about a quarter of the cost of hiring someone.
@@lukepeacham9663 I was a bit worried about that too, but it turned out to be easier than I thought. There's a RUclips channel called AKT Solar where a complete novice installs EWI, which is worth watching. I also did a training course on it, which I would recommend as you can have a go at the processes before you tackle your own property.
Instead of having a cold damp house, you get a warm damp house with cold spots, which is where the mould will grow. It also looks a bit odd, especially on one half of a semi detached. Mind you the job I’ve witnessed was carried out by the cowboys opposites. So no surprises there 😂😂
Huge mistake dotting and dabbing the insulation to the brickwork. Air gaps behind the insulation can degrade the thermal performance by 25%!!! The whole surface of the batts should be covered with glue to prevent this. All edges to be buttered as well.
Really good plasterer, good builder in general imo. But these vapour closed materials are just going to create a new wave of dilapidated homes in the next 10 yearsx shame on baumit as they know the benefit of vapour open materials but choose not to educate the uk and just sell product to compete with kingspan etc
Yeah totally agree not only an expensive system to install but old solid brick houses have generally got some sort of damp so literally creating a potential problem internally. Not only that hate the sound of the hollowness and easily damaged
@@bluevanmani yea styrofoam insulation is weird. Baumit are cheeky, the star contact adhesive is highly permeable and they have entire systems that are vapour open and practically compatible for any form of home. But they clearly realised a lot of their UK market are stubborn gypsum plasterers looking to expand and sealing surfaces is all they know, so why fight them 😂
I'm not a plasterer but love your content, your delivery is clear and easy to follow and very informative. Keep up the great work
For those who have cavity walls I recommend filling the cavity first and then adding 75 or 100mm EWI. On top of that proper ventilation, ideally heat recovery system. Tricky areas are usually around roof eaves where often it's hard to insulate properly. In terms of durability of renders, for those who have some doubts i recommend going to Poland where over 90% of houses have EWI installed and you can check it for yourself. Most of my friends have it for 20-30 years and there is absolutely no issues at all.
Great to see you back, i hope everything is good, thanks for your videos over the years, you and Kirk Johnson, have giving me soo much confidence to plaster and rendering, thank you 👍🏻
Good work Blaine I did the Baumit course a few years back as well but we use a 1.5m toothed straight edge for the first coat and put the second pass on wetter and finish with spats. To be honest never really got on with the star contact like you said tends to tear up a bit, think ecorend FX4 is a much nicer product to work with but we’re all different 👍
Nice to see you back Blain.
Take it easy mate 🙂👍👍
Thanks matey - I’ve taken a little break ha! Hope you’re well my friend and all the best to you and your family. Speak soon 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners this is the opposite of future proofing. Ensuring in the future this rotting garbage will need removing. How do you sleep at night? How many elderly people have you sold this scam to?
Worth mentioning that there are limited scenarios where this insulation system is appropriate. On a ventilated cavity wall the benefit is undermined by the fact that you have outside air circulating behind the insulation layer. And on a solid wall you risk issues with interstitial damp, where they're designed to work with vapour open materials.
Sou where would you use it
@@deaosatori216when you want to line the pockets
Would also be interested to know if the insulation boards are flammable - so much insulation these days is not fireproof
@@coolmonkey619very true. I don’t price for this system unless it’s a council grant. Don’t know if there’s any truth in it but was told what you save on your energy bill would take 40yrs to recuperate the cost of the work. So for me not worth quoting for just price for a straight out thin coat render
You may need to add ventiation to control moisture/humidity levels in the house after installing external wall insulation.
Really enjoyed both videos keep them coming well done
Mark B
Been waiting for this video, thank god cz know am doing it to my house
Great job you’ve done there Blain, what would a typical 3bed semi cost to do up your way including materials?
For the plugs you can get a eps router, perfectly cuts the recess. Tighten the mexhanical fixing so its snug into the eps inside this recess, then the plug finishes level and gap free.
thanks for the video
You're welcome
Absolutely stunning work pal I did the baumit ewi course.
Is it OK to diamond float star contact.
How's it float up?
Also who's your supplier for baumit
I've a large ewi job to price up
Hi there , I’m a time served plasterer from way back and I’ve not done any rendering for over 30 years. I don’t know about modern materials but I am doing a job at home. I’ve removed all the vertical roof tiles from the front of the house ( trendy when the house was built in 1960 ) . I’ve put Eco therm insulation up and put cement board over the top of that, now I want to flat render it to match the rest of it. My problem is what material to use ? Like I said I haven’t done any rendering for over 30 years and I’m in my very very late 60’ . Any advice would be greatly appreciated. 👍
Are they fire proof as we dont need any more chap nasty materil that could cause fire
Great to have you back Blain 💪🍻
Thanks for all your video's
My pleasure!
Blaine can the silicone render be applied to a masonry background after the base coat, or is it just insulation system and cement boards?
Keep up the good work 👍
Have you tried point a blowtorch at some to see what kind of smoke it kicks out?
It makes no sense insulating the cold side of the wall . In building regs when you apply pir to cavity you fix it to inside block work leaving a 10mm gap between external wall and pir. Does this comply with current regs for something like an extension ?
Brilliant product. I did the same training course.
@@gazdavies7486 awful product that will need removing in less than ten years. Another scam from scum.
Rodents love chewing through this stuff . Ive had to replace whole walls that have been tunneled into . It shows up on thermal imaging as blue lines .
Do they make versions of the panels that are pest-repellent?
@@pcno2832 no
Beautiful job 👍
Thank you!
Great video, really useful, thanks.
A house near me had this done, but instead of rendering, they had a brick effect added. It looked decent
What i really wonder. En did not see a video yet wo explain it. How to cover the bottum part from floating. Can we make this all the way till under ground somehow?
We had this done by Polish contractors for the council. They left various items on the wall including a sky dish 😂😂
What's their nationality got to do with anything?
@ndewhurst1007 Polish people are proud, I'm sure even they would tell you that they're the "polish contractors". People need to stop feeling second-hand racism
@@Bergamot88yet still if it had been white English workers would their nationality have been mentioned?? Probably not.
Polish tend to work a lot harder than the average English lad in my experience. Most English don’t want to work, the amount of English labourers I’ve seen who don’t want to lift a muscle unless it’s lifting their phone up ffs.
@@ndewhurst1007 Is your boyfriend Polish?
Do not do this to a period home with lime mortar, soft bricks and stone walls, let alone a timber frame, it would absolutely destroy the building.
What about when you come up to the gutter down pipes and soil stack?
totally agree with you...alway rule your render in order to achieve a flat surface that will look good when the sun ''hits'' it from the ''sweet points'' ....for those that know what I mean!
@@bizganpetryca 🤣🤣yeah we call it the ‘devils hour’ defo know what you mean
@@bizganpetryca 🤣🤣yeah we call it the ‘devils hour’ defo know what you mean
Good Finish
Worth buying a hot string bow to cut this, only a few 100 quid makes the job alot cleaner and quicker with thicker boards
Always wondered how this was done thanks for the video
No problem 👍 Thanks for watching
From what i understand they only last for 40 years before they need doing again at full cost?
Very informative video as usual - I'd be interested to know if such a system can be repaired. Ours is 10 years old and areas of the coloured render have cracked and come away to reveal the undercoat. Is it possible to apply a new layer of coloured render to patch?
Well done. You just figured out the scam.
Brilliant bud
Cheers pal
Why would you put this on a cavity wall? Normally you only put this on solid walls
They use this all over Europe. What's wrong with this on a victorian solid brick house?
Can you give the name of the plugs you use?
Hi where do you get the plugs ?
Just from Baumit mate
Can you use on solid wall
Surely that makes the inner walls damp
Just think how nice that will look in ten years when you pull this shit off have it sandblasted and repointed 👍
Blain where you been
Haha Ive been hiding mate. I’ve just been enjoying a well deserved break to be honest. It’s been lovely 😂
@@PlasteringForBeginnersthe title may need updating to say externally rather than eternally. Your welcome
Ha cheers pal!
Do you render internal walls in a houses
just plasterboard internal walls
do u not poly float after ruling off?
Yeah I do mate 👍
It’s overkill. Just drill a few holes and fill the void behind the brick with expanding insulation foam. Cheaper and quicker
What if my wall not plumb
Definitely not an insulation system, krend weber all same them insulation boards are nothing more than carrier boards , 1 good knock and its a hole, plus one year later all stained under windows etc
Could a novice diy person do this?
I'm in the process of doing mine and about to apply the base coat render, but will spray the silicone. Installing the insulation boards is relatively easy, but it takes a lot of time on your own. If I struggle with the applying the render I will hire a pro for that part. Doing the install yourself is about a quarter of the cost of hiring someone.
@@kevinhartle4494 thank you. The hardest bit of going to be moving the pipes to get started.
@@lukepeacham9663 I was a bit worried about that too, but it turned out to be easier than I thought. There's a RUclips channel called AKT Solar where a complete novice installs EWI, which is worth watching. I also did a training course on it, which I would recommend as you can have a go at the processes before you tackle your own property.
@@kevinhartle4494 iv seen them videos he is good. Best of luck your house
I havnt come across this yet Isit exspensive
It is quite an expensive system to be fair mate - all insulation is dear now so that’s where the costs are.
@@PlasteringForBeginners ahh I see looks good tho hopefully save on the heating bill
@@lewisriggs6596If you pay full price pay back is 30 or 40 years. Just leave your heating on all day.
Instead of having a cold damp house, you get a warm damp house with cold spots, which is where the mould will grow. It also looks a bit odd, especially on one half of a semi detached. Mind you the job I’ve witnessed was carried out by the cowboys opposites. So no surprises there 😂😂
Anyone doing this in any capacity is a cowboy.
are you guys hiring
Don't use this external wall insulation or any external wall insulation. Spoils the characteristics and youll never get your money back.
Huge mistake dotting and dabbing the insulation to the brickwork. Air gaps behind the insulation can degrade the thermal performance by 25%!!!
The whole surface of the batts should be covered with glue to prevent this. All edges to be buttered as well.
This is how we were taught in the Baumit training academy. I’m sure they know what they’re doing
Thanks for the update though 👍
Bit of a faff all of that isn't it. I wouldn't be recommending it 😂
Wait till the ants move in they will destroy that stuff just like the crap kingspan seen it to many times now
And after a few month it turns into a dirty damp mess ..its utter shit and wasre of money
15 years later it will not only look like crazy paving but will be useless
Skills and technical methods are like 1 decade behind from what is called a standard these days. Stuff shown in the video is purely an amateur level.
To anyone thinking of getting this done, Don’t! 🙈
Is this a skit? Plastic garbage covering walls? Gross. Internal wall, Air pocket, External wall, Sealed doors and windows = Warm.
Really good plasterer, good builder in general imo. But these vapour closed materials are just going to create a new wave of dilapidated homes in the next 10 yearsx shame on baumit as they know the benefit of vapour open materials but choose not to educate the uk and just sell product to compete with kingspan etc
Yeah totally agree not only an expensive system to install but old solid brick houses have generally got some sort of damp so literally creating a potential problem internally. Not only that hate the sound of the hollowness and easily damaged
@@bluevanmani yea styrofoam insulation is weird. Baumit are cheeky, the star contact adhesive is highly permeable and they have entire systems that are vapour open and practically compatible for any form of home. But they clearly realised a lot of their UK market are stubborn gypsum plasterers looking to expand and sealing surfaces is all they know, so why fight them 😂