This needed to be in the description... 0:00 1st Tape: Arrival in Cuba 4:10 2nd Tape: Recordings from his Cell 6:40 3rd Tape: Escorted to Paz's Location 8:23 4th Tape: Interrogation 18:25 5th Tape: Negotiation 22:09 6th Tape: Chico's Distress Call 26:43 7th Tape: Bargaining with Paz
Lowkey one of the darkest fucking things in gaming or really any media, since you only had in game locations to go off of you can imagine these scenarios in a brutally realistic way. The way that you can use audio cues to realize that Paz just got her shirt torn off and Chico was forced onto her in that tiny cellar is just horrifying and sickening. I wish skullface kept the same menace in the phantom pain but then again I think these tapes really push the boundaries of the medium for rated M
Than that makes you no better than him. I can't hate skull face. Cause he at least understands and empathizes. He understands humanity. Don't believe me? Listen to the agent's recording. Just because you don't do vile things, doesn't mean you aren't capable of it. If you say "I would never do that" you're lying to yourself.
For all the idiots bitching about Paz being raped... I imagine having your organs being pulled out to have a bomb being put in you is a far worse violation of the human body, and a far worse atrocity. What I find disgusting is the lack of empathy you people have for her character as you debate over fickle issues such as "whether or not its appropriate to have rape in the first place." If you actually had any level of intelligence you'd realize that the entirety of Ground Zeroes is meant to be an elegy to the demise of Paz, a beloved, yet tratorous character from the previous installment. Hence the song being played "Here's to You." It's supposed to affect the player emotionally. You know, make you FEEL things, especially for Paz. This is why the tapes focus on her most of all, and the final words are hers, you're supposed to understand her motives and thoughts, and empathize with her and her torture, to further drive the player's motivation during the next game. Trivial political agendas have no place in art, get over yourselves.
Completely agree with you. Even for a character, I'm never seen Paz so blatantly and crudely disrespected; Raiden aside. Yes, she was a traitor; people seem to only care about the surface of the fact and not her reasons. Even I find people criticising Chico. But I found that the experiences Kojima created for the two was the most human thing in MGS. The tapes were difficult to listen to because of it. Overall, I don't label a character as a bad guy for what they did because they all have their human reasons.
***** I know it's been like 3 games since Mgs3, but damn, I really liked Zero in that one. On the other hand, the whole 'philosopher's legacy' thing left me betrayed; to think that I actually listened to his 007 rant and his talk of English teas and cookies. . . Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing how much he's changed.
+Ivan Santiago No this is a savage game for having both of those things in here at all. And this tape let's not forget is a reward!!! Hidiokajima i REWARDING you with a child being forced onto a 20 something year old woman! This tape completely turned me off to this series so much that I will never play the other games. Whoever came up with the script for this tape and to have a bomb in her stomach and vagina is a savage, sick, disgusting human being and this game deserves to be rejected for the savage, sleesy $40 DEMO that it is. Oh and the last part where they decide to have sex for fun, FUCK YOU KAJIMA! Now you're implying that a 20 something year old wants to have sex with a teenage boy...I-WHY DO PEOPLE DEFEND THIS?! Please let me know, I won't say "fuck you" or hate on you, I am genuinely curious what you guys see in this reward of torture/rape porn.
Superultramegaa TheRageQuitGamer the game isn't for everyone; I was disgusted, myself. I haven't read much of the other comments but I don't think people personally condone what has happened. For many people and myself, the tapes/events give me a reason to do justice in TPP; become like Big Boss. And I know just how crazy he became. I agree with Master Xehanort; I wouldn't say it's a true reward .
To my understanding, I think it is very sad that (considering the final situation) Chico didn’t reached to listen the last recording Paz did, and therefore, to know Paz’s gratefulness to him for being there with her, before they both died.
Paz was such a troubled individual but in the end she made peace, or at at least attempted to. even tho she was going through her own hell she was still trying to look out for Chico, telling him he won't hurt her, and then offering herself to him . offering, not forcing him to. which I'm pretty sure Is traumatizing to a little boy, he was still young. he actually cared about her, and not just looking at her as a piece of meat. so like some other ppl have said, she wasn't just crazy for sex,I think she just wanted him to know what sex is like when both ppl want it. and that it can be a great emotional experience
+lonely bird You Still Ain't Looking At The Bigger Picture Here Just Like Those Other Idiots At The Top Of The Comment Section They Cared About The Paz Getting Raped Scene And Not How Both Chico And Paz Was Put Against Each Other
Brutal. I guess Kojima and MGS have finally matured when it comes to dealing with what war is actually like when you get to the blood and guts. And those bitching about the rape scene.. It is a common war crime, so it's realistic and doesn't cater to your need to be shielded of that ugly truth. Besides, they didn't get exploitative; it is only strongly implied in an audio recording. It's not like we see her getting gang raped. I can give you a dozen examples of games that exploit awful violence and I don't hear people bitching about those. Shit, if this were a GTA war game, I bet raping would be a mini game. Also, you can choose not to listen to the tapes, right? Haven't played the game, but my understanding is collecting them is optional.
They wouldn't do that in GTA. Just because GTA is inappropriate, doesn't mean they would stoop to putting a rape mini-game in it. First of all, the series is mostly comedic, not straight up gruesome. Second of all, from what I've seen/played, there is no rape in the game.
Aivottaja Rockstar isn't fucked up, they don't imply rape anywhere. The worst thing GTA has had is a torture mission and that had an anti torture message. You clearly know nothing about GTA, they get messages across, while the rape shown in the recordings didn't have a point to it. Just shows how sick Japan is.
@@djrocksgaming6255 So what you're saying is that you never switched to Trevor while he was staying at Floyd's place? Also the point was to show how ugly this shit really is.
I'm gonna be honest, MGSV really shows that Kojima would much rather be doing something other than Metal Gear. Like seriously the dark and serious tone, and distinct style of the game and cut-scenes just don't mesh well with the Metal Gear canon. It would be more fitting for a new series, but I guess the logic at the time being was "big boss becomes villain therefore = dark tone". I guess that was the thought process.
Spoilers for TPP: Holy shit, the reason I'm here is to confirm my suspicion that Paz and Chico are the 1st English strain parasite test subjects. Hard evidence from the game. The parasite particles are all over the rooms of Paz and Chico. The coughing soldiers. The person Skullface is talking to in the tape is breathing like someone who is affected heavily the vocal chord parasite. It almost seems that Skullfaces words killed him, heavily effected by the English strain. Words that kill. This game as absolutely insane for doing this And these tapes Paz doesn't want to speak. Paz and Chico's bolted ankles seemed like mindless torture, but the bolts were to protect the asset, the parasite. Headphones in Chico's chest seemed to be his vocal chord parasite therapy.
@@hugo8500 yeah that's the part I still trying to figure out. Maybe their Latin accents made it not quite work, part of the test. Could also be a false connection. But we know from the tapes that XO (Skullface) was tasked by Zero to create the vocal cord parasite. And Scullfaces research was the push nano machines needed to be completed.
@@YoungMachette I think that’s the least of the plot holes in MGSV tbh.. I’ll give another one for free: if you select a black guy at the beginning, how and why is he used as a fake Big Boss/Venom
I guess they got too much realism this time 😅 (well I wasn't prepared to). But I agree that their reaction are "bitchy" (even if Kojima already knew about that).
To all the people saying why cudnt he be this scary in MGSV they took a ton of flack following GZ...too dark, exploits women, is insensitive to rape and so on. He was softened significantly in PP. This was the darkest material MGS ever put out and there were some severely negative reactions
You know I first time I beat skull face in phantom pain I took pity on him but after I watched this I re did the mission and shot him twice one for Chico and for Paz then I was done and let miller do the rest
Listening to the very last bit pisses me off. Chico could have had a greater end to his arc in TPP Just look at this concept art. memesauce4.funnyjunk.com/pictures/Mgsv+chico+concept+art_097630_6499020.jpg He may have been a parasite soldier stalking Venom around like the Burning Man.
I never got round to playing mgs 5 until 2019, so I never played ground zeroes first... and now I’ve just finished ground zeroes and collected all the cassette tapes... And HOLY FUCK Skullface is true demonspawn in ground zeroes compared to MGS5, and after hearing the tapes I dunno if that’s good or bad wdyt
Yoda mate that’s the worst part of the whole tape. I mean celebrating a relationship built on statutory rape is a bit weird don’t you think. I have no idea why kojima thought the game needed this
Nah, she did screw over BB but she's basically been trained since a very young age to be a tripple agent. When you listen to the tapes she recorded while on Mother Base she completely loses the will to fight BB. But she fears what will happen if she doesn't (worse than death) and actually tries delaying it, but the presence of another mole at mother base telling cypher Zeke is ready to go, forced her hand. Basically, if she was left a lone, she would've been a total ally to BB. She just thought there was no choice.
Ralph Lindsen If she was trained so well she would have easily been able to leak the Intel to Big Boss and store a cyanide capsule in her if she was able to be caught.
You got a point with the cyanide, but if her fear was enough the betray the ones she cared for, it's definitely enough to be too scared to tell anything to big boss, especially if there is a mole around that would tell cipher what she did. Only two people know about her mission, cipher and herself. If cipher founds out through the mole that big boss knows about Paz, than Cipher will know Paz was the source.
Because what skull face went through and saw as a child were horrible things that turned him into a sick broken man so he is trying to make the world a sick broken place
I see a lot of people complaining about the rape scene, which isn't even really a rape scene, saying it's 'pointless'. Would anyone like to tell me which rape scenes in anything weren't? Which movies, shows or whatever greatly benefited and were made richer with a rape scene? What books or games would be considered not as good if it weren't for their rape scene, hm?
Dragon tattoo and shawshank could have just said it happened, alluded to it, nothing would have changed other than you would have been less uncomfortable. Kids a shit movie so whatever, who cared about Kids.
VaporWalrus If rape is something normal for you then I agree. For most people though, seeing it has a greater impact due to its brutality than just simply alluding towards it. Neither movie would have been as effective, including shitty Kids.
Both the book and movie versions of A Clockwork Orange for one. It's meant to show how depraved and evil the main character is. Same thing for here I'd argue, it flat out screams at the player that this person you're up against has no qualms with committing atrocities to meet his own goals.
@UCuxagwupHKO8AuMmV4Ikpiw I bet She even Knew that So it's The reason She jumped out Helicopter and Sacrificed herself To save Them from Explosions they Had already Gotten bombs From inside Her stomach But forgot About the Last bomb They put in Her well You know But Paz knew About that Last bomb That's why She jumped
@nιcнтιge. But again When she Was backing Towards helicopter Door she Was Saying there's Another bomb In my Then she Jumped Which also Leave us To question Exactly why She'd jump Did She know The bomb Was gonna explode Or she Was gonna Die anyway From blood Loss or That she Betrayed The man She loved Cypher and Big boss And have Nothing to Live for
@UCuxagwupHKO8AuMmV4Ikpiw But paz Also broke Too at Skull face Torture Mentally Physically and Spiritually he Tired Turning paz And chico Against each Other Telling paz He will Kill chico And big Boss And then Turning around Telling chico That she Betrayed him And wanted Him to Stay here Furthermore setting Trap for Big boss Using chico As BAIT And paz For leverage
viaze I dont think so I think he said it was Kaz because it kind of sounds like him also one reason I dont think it was him shouldnt he be at mother base
@@Raiden-uo8yd Why don't you believe your own ears? skull face even says he wants you to hear chicos little diary, and that he hopes the boss is still a good listener. What else is he hinting at? It's so obviously Kaz its funny and I hate that I didnt figure it out until 4 years after playing the game.
It's not Kaz, he's on Motherbase, you pick him up there at the end of GZ. It's just Robin Downes doing a random soldier voice. He's been doing them since Snake Eater lol.
when i was playing TPP for the first time, i refused to kill skull face right away in mission 31 just to fuck with the game, like, "what will happen if I don't shoot?" and... i now wish i didn't.
After thinking about I can't really understand why Kojima thought we needed to hear Skullface's various torture sessions. Which include him belt whipping Paz, forcing her and Chico to have sex, having her gangraped, and the kicker: forcing a bomb into her abdomen that is set to go off when Snake rescues her in a timely manner. Oh, and this isn't even going into the second bomb Skull Face shoved up her vagina. Don't get me wrong I'm not demanding that they get removed or anything. I'm just questioning the necessity of including them as the player is perfectly capable of figuring out what happened by the conversations heard around the base. 🤔
I think it is too make the player uncomfortable with the brutal reality of the situation. Almost for shock value. The biggest problem for me is the tonal dissonance. Yeah, MGSV is definitely the darkest game in the series but it's still weird when you have incredibly brutal and realistic stuff like this coupled with some of the really silly shit in the game. I know it's Kojima's style but I'd rather see him commit to the dark tone, or leave out stuff like this and focus more on the action.
all that happens in tpp does not explain why these much hatred skullface inhibit! these recording completely shows skullface does not have any hatred for anything! all those stories about what happened to him is all excuse! he is a sadist! end of the story! he does have many things in common with chico and paz and many other victims but he acts like a villain without any care! i'll have to say tpp is a great game but not a great mgs game! skullface is a maniac and does not have any depth! he only has excuses for this and that so he could blow up the planet!
It's funny how everyone defending the legitimacy of these scenes, which were meant for a mature audience, all act extremely immature when their beloved franchise is criticized by resorting instantly to ad hominem attacks about people's intelligence and such. Hey, some people don't want to play a video game where they have to listen to child sex, rape, and torture. Get over it. Being more sensitive to other people's boundaries is a part of being mature.
+Jay Something Just like you think people who defend the game are angry and "immature", they think anyone who criticizes it is angry and "immature". They aren't being immature, they just have different opinions.
Plus the criticisms of these scenes makes sense. The dark tone REALLY doesn't mesh well. Especially considering this takes place after Peace Walker, which was T rated. I mean I like it, its very well written. And I understand it has to get dark considering we're supposed to showcase Big Boss's decent into villainy. But honestly, the dark tone really makes me think Kojima is just fucking sick of metal gear and would much rather be doing something else. But the fans want what they want. How do the get what they want? Same thing they did to the creator of Evangelion. Death threats. And corporate pressure from Konami.
First off: DAYUM. Second off, to the people complaining about people complaining about Paz being raped, a few things. A list within a list, if you will: 1) Be honest, how many of you are guys, or just people who typically don't have to worry about taking precautions on a regular basis to decrease the chances of assault happening in real life? Nothing against y'all, I understand why you wouldn't have thought to think about this, I'm just wondering if you've ever had the experience of being in a situation where you DID have to watch yourself to avoid sexual assault. I'm saying this as a lady-type that habitually looks over my shoulder when I'm walking after dark. 2) I get that it's a thing that would probably "realistically" happen in a place like this, yes, but are we using the "it's realistic" argument to defend a rape scene where, not only does Guantanamo Bay exist in the world pre-9/11, but one of the main villains is called SKULL FACE? I agree that there's way, WAY worse ways this could have been portrayed, but correct me if I am wrong; hasn't MGS always been incredibly goofy? So forgive me if I find the existence of a rape scene in a series with ninja cyborgs, psychic ninjas reading the data on your memory card, giant fighting mecha robots, and a villain that is seriously 100% legit named Skull Face just a wee bit... gratuitous? Out of its range? I mean, if it's clear they're beating the shit out of her to show the villain is one bad dude, I don't think it's necessary to stoop to Paz being raped as a form of torture to establish how much Skull Face doesn't give a fuck. I could say something too about sexual torture only being explicitly employed against a female character in a real life location where prisoners are subjected to such things regardless of sex or gender coming across as kind of... icky, but I feel like I've already opened the fucking flood gates here. I really want to try and have a mature discussion about this. If you might return the favor and keep it civil, I'd appreciate it.
ShootingStarNeo There's something seriously wrong with you if you thought Paz's rape was gratuitous... MGS has always touched upon very serious themes, and her rape serves to drive the story and depict the cruelty of war to the audience. If you haven't noticed, for as silly as it can be, MGS has always been very anti-war. War is never pretty, boy. Rape has always been a casualty of war, among other atrocities.
ShootingStarNeo So for the rape scene to give you peace of mind, it would have been better if BOTH Paz and Chico were raped, right? That way, rape wouldn't be explicitly employed on JUST women as you mentioned. Please look at the context of the situation. Chico got caught because he tried to rescue Paz, because he LOVES her. The rape scene was a torture for them BOTH as Chico is forced to hurt the woman he loves. Kojima is a genius; let him do his thing. People like you hold creators back, you make them scared of offending or going 'out of range'... really?! There is no range, thats all in your narrow mind. Let the creation process happen. In MGS2, they speak of Otacon's father committing suicide and taking his daughter, Emma, with him as he drowns himself in the family pool. That doesn't seem very 'goofy' to me.
ShootingStarNeo In one of the mgs3 secret cinemas Raiden gets raped by Volgin, who also happens to electrocute Eva, beat and torture Naked snake. It is also hinted that Volgin beats and abuses Raikov and Eva. Not to mention every or at least most metal gear games have some theme of torture, child soldiers, nuclear war, PTSD (B&B corps, Big boss). While the goofy scenes are in the series it is mixed well with the very serious parts of the plot.
+Kes Cholo FYI Both were raped. Skullfaced forced Chico to rape Paz. THEREFORE, he was raped as well. (And that was what broke him, making him talk) +ShootingStarNeo MGS "goofy" really? Have you ever played any? Yes, there are humor in them. But they ALWAYS depicted very mature themes around war, espionage and betrayal. Sure, this is the first time someone is 'raped', but many were tortured before. So, what's the difference? They are all different kinds of tortures. You want me to accept that beating, shooting, blinding, electrocuting people and what else is okay, as long as it doesn't includes rape? Yeah, right. If you think that's bad, you should probably stay away from Phantom Pain, I hear worse things are coming.
Jack Miller what microbomb? those were exclusive to the cobra unit so they wouldn't leave their bodies behind. that said, I too do not think skullface is volgin. with everything that has been implied in these tapes, I assume skullface is an ex-patriot.
Not Isaac No he isn't. Volgin was the son of a rich russian military officer Skullface comes from a village in some god-forsaken place somewhere in Hungary. Also Volgin's dead, so...........
Can somebody answer this question regarding the, according to my friend 'pointless rape audio log'? Me and my friend have not played this game. I myself like mgs but have not decided to play this as it dosent have much story relevence, Never mind that anyway my friend tells me that these audio logs are pointless and have no plot relevence what so ever and i feel that he isnt looking into it enough to clearly know what relevence it has or what it is trying to convey. If anyone can explain to me the relevence this has to the game or any metal gear game for that matter it would be greatly appretiated
to tell you what happened during the time when players are absent. to answer questions like "what's the motivation of chico to rescue paz" "what's paz's attitude to chico"
What Skull Face did is pointless, but that's the point: most of the terrible shit people do is pointless. Also, it is just a little bit important to Chico and Paz's character development. I mean, rape and torture is obviously going to make a person change. People ignore the harsh realities of this world all too often, and look where that has gotten us in the grand scheme of things. People who saw what was going on in MGSV wanted to look away from it the first chance they got, which is exactly why this shit goes on in the first place. If they don't have to see it, they don't have to think about it.
Chico got bit by the love bug and tried to play hero lol whata Noob...thinking he was snake because he spend time around him haha Chico you foolish amigo lmao
Lol no piece of ass is worth that kinda of tragedy, not only did he betrayed his Comrades but he got a lot of men killed back at mother base because of the intel he gave up.. He also got morpho kill the helicopter pilot... But I get that your remarks are probably sarcasm :p but Chico messed up big time
he does all these tortures while playing that song! a song about people like him! another reason that skullface does not have any depth! he's a pure evil like any other villain + sadistic tortues! you have people like him all over the world working for all sorts of dictators! there's nothing special about him
listen to Paz diary from PW at the end she was changing her mind but she didn't because she was afraid of what Cipher would do to her if she didn't carry her mission
Hell yes she does! I don't know about you guys but I kinda enjoyed this... 😅 Matter of fact, I torture Paz every way imaginable in Ground Zeroes. Running over her by van, throwing grenades at her, throwing magazines at her unconscious head, and of course, shooting her using rifles and shotguns in the stomach and head. 😅
Am I crazy, or is the acting in these atrocious? It's a shame because it could have been really dark and impactful but instead it just feels like a fumbled cringeworthy mess.
You are 'rewarded' with finding the last tape with hearing child rape. It's a reward, a fucking reward, this is NOT good. MGS was never about reality EVER, it's a camp funny silly fun game, it has never taken itself seriously, and now we suddenly get RAPE TAPES as a reward for exploring... It's fucked up, yes I know it's a reality of war, but this isn't what MGS was about. I am a woman and LOVED MGS but this is disgusting, I find it offensive. The ending the child is forced to rape the woman then they have sex ??? NO THANK YOU.
"child" while it dosent make it any better Paz is 20 years old while she is being raped. And get the hell over it dude the whole point of the game is Big Boss' turning point to becoming a villain, it's not gonna be happy happy sunshine.
Kojima clearly that stated for the new Mgs he wanted to go away from the "Sillyness" and "Humor". Thats why David isnt Snakes Voice in this. He intendets to make a "true" Anti War-Game
Jesus. James Horan really does a magnificent job at showing just how terrifying Skull Face is. It's really haunting in a way.
pyrotech8285 I find him more like hilarious.
Bluesruse Me too after hearing him speak hungarian. With a russian accent.
+pyrotech8285 Definitely a step up from doing Geico commercials.
+pyrotech8285 Definitely a step up from doing Geico commercials.
James Horgan I think is a better voice acting, the character of skull face was under welling in the end
After all these years, I still miss you Morpho, you magnificent pilot, you shouldn't have died that day.
Pequod is so much faster tho
Press F to pay respects
“ThIs Is PeQuOd ArRiViNg ShOrTlY aT LZ”
Morpho needed to die! Because I hated when the good guys wins. The heroes needs to die!
Why couldn't Skull Face be this intimidating in The Phantom Pain?
I dunno, that tape with him and Code Talker was pretty messed up
that tape with code talker where he rings the bell? that's still in. and man is it brutal
He is
@Al Draws Only Kojima would censor. It is his game after all.
@@RulosMagicos Not really.
This needed to be in the description...
0:00 1st Tape: Arrival in Cuba
4:10 2nd Tape: Recordings from his Cell
6:40 3rd Tape: Escorted to Paz's Location
8:23 4th Tape: Interrogation
18:25 5th Tape: Negotiation
22:09 6th Tape: Chico's Distress Call
26:43 7th Tape: Bargaining with Paz
Douglas Eric Sounds good to me. I'll add your comment in the description. Thanks!
+Douglas Eric (Sekkuar) Thanks o/
I understand why you didn't put it it's right on the video
SYNCERE1221 That’s a pretty new feature, if you put time stamps in the description it’ll divide the video
Lowkey one of the darkest fucking things in gaming or really any media, since you only had in game locations to go off of you can imagine these scenarios in a brutally realistic way. The way that you can use audio cues to realize that Paz just got her shirt torn off and Chico was forced onto her in that tiny cellar is just horrifying and sickening. I wish skullface kept the same menace in the phantom pain but then again I think these tapes really push the boundaries of the medium for rated M
You know before listening to these I almost pitied Skullface now I just wish they'd made him suffer more.
he would've if it wasn't for huey
It didn't matter skull face doesn't feel pain
I fucking shot him in mgsv phantom pain that deserved it for what he did to Paz.
Than that makes you no better than him. I can't hate skull face. Cause he at least understands and empathizes. He understands humanity. Don't believe me? Listen to the agent's recording. Just because you don't do vile things, doesn't mean you aren't capable of it. If you say "I would never do that" you're lying to yourself.
These tapes are why I killed all the enemy soldiers in GZ and All the XOF Soldiers without giving them a second thought
You gotta feel bad for Paz and Chico. I wish they survived
they couldve a perfect couple
Been
@@realgmm7877 Chico was 13 while Paz was 25, just FYI
@@stormw7727 skull face really raped them idk how many times you can hear it in the tapes
@@jeremyacosta2534 He didn't do it himself. He forced Chico to rape Paz. Skullface didn't participate in it.
Wow, Paz really did everything to keep Chico alive. Skull Face is a sucka. 💯
For all the idiots bitching about Paz being raped...
I imagine having your organs being pulled out to have a bomb being put in you is a far worse violation of the human body, and a far worse atrocity.
What I find disgusting is the lack of empathy you people have for her character as you debate over fickle issues such as "whether or not its appropriate to have rape in the first place." If you actually had any level of intelligence you'd realize that the entirety of Ground Zeroes is meant to be an elegy to the demise of Paz, a beloved, yet tratorous character from the previous installment. Hence the song being played "Here's to You." It's supposed to affect the player emotionally. You know, make you FEEL things, especially for Paz. This is why the tapes focus on her most of all, and the final words are hers, you're supposed to understand her motives and thoughts, and empathize with her and her torture, to further drive the player's motivation during the next game.
Trivial political agendas have no place in art, get over yourselves.
Completely agree with you. Even for a character, I'm never seen Paz so blatantly and crudely disrespected; Raiden aside. Yes, she was a traitor; people seem to only care about the surface of the fact and not her reasons. Even I find people criticising Chico. But I found that the experiences Kojima created for the two was the most human thing in MGS. The tapes were difficult to listen to because of it. Overall, I don't label a character as a bad guy for what they did because they all have their human reasons.
***** I know it's been like 3 games since Mgs3, but damn, I really liked Zero in that one. On the other hand, the whole 'philosopher's legacy' thing left me betrayed; to think that I actually listened to his 007 rant and his talk of English teas and cookies. . .
Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing how much he's changed.
***** dammit, Para-medic made me remember them as 'cookies'!
+Ivan Santiago No this is a savage game for having both of those things in here at all. And this tape let's not forget is a reward!!! Hidiokajima i REWARDING you with a child being forced onto a 20 something year old woman! This tape completely turned me off to this series so much that I will never play the other games. Whoever came up with the script for this tape and to have a bomb in her stomach and vagina is a savage, sick, disgusting human being and this game deserves to be rejected for the savage, sleesy $40 DEMO that it is. Oh and the last part where they decide to have sex for fun, FUCK YOU KAJIMA! Now you're implying that a 20 something year old wants to have sex with a teenage boy...I-WHY DO PEOPLE DEFEND THIS?! Please let me know, I won't say "fuck you" or hate on you, I am genuinely curious what you guys see in this reward of torture/rape porn.
Superultramegaa TheRageQuitGamer the game isn't for everyone; I was disgusted, myself. I haven't read much of the other comments but I don't think people personally condone what has happened. For many people and myself, the tapes/events give me a reason to do justice in TPP; become like Big Boss. And I know just how crazy he became. I agree with Master Xehanort; I wouldn't say it's a true reward .
Damn, this is dark, gnarly stuff.
After this game. I was expecting The Phantom Pain so much just to unleash my roaring rampage of revenge on Skull Face
you get your revenge but the pain never goes away
@@The-Big-Boss Well said!
@@The-Big-BossWouldn't you agreeeeeeeeee?
To my understanding, I think it is very sad that (considering the final situation) Chico didn’t reached to listen the last recording Paz did, and therefore, to know Paz’s gratefulness to him for being there with her, before they both died.
i have to say, Skull Face is the most intimidating enemy of this series.
Nothing against him at all but chico is a prime example on why u should never be a simp
@Gwenith Payne DEADASS dude didn't thank at all lmaoooo
I kinda wanna say that this is big boss' fault for basically raising him as a child soldier if he didn't chico wouldn't have ended up there
most 13-year olds have been through the simp ark, though. Chico's actions are not surprising at all
17:01 That was really heartbreaking to listen.
They really broke Paz like Theon Grayjoy in Game Of thrones.
When Theon says "he broke me". Understatement of the fucking century.
I know it’s sad really :(
Here's to you Chico and Paz...
Paz was such a troubled individual but in the end she made peace, or at at least attempted to. even tho she was going through her own hell she was still trying to look out for Chico, telling him he won't hurt her, and then offering herself to him . offering, not forcing him to. which I'm pretty sure Is traumatizing to a little boy, he was still young. he actually cared about her, and not just looking at her as a piece of meat. so like some other ppl have said, she wasn't just crazy for sex,I think she just wanted him to know what sex is like when both ppl want it. and that it can be a great emotional experience
+lonely bird You Still Ain't Looking At The Bigger Picture Here Just Like Those Other Idiots At The Top Of The Comment Section They Cared About The Paz Getting Raped Scene And Not How Both Chico And Paz Was Put Against Each Other
I'm looking at it from my point of view, thanks for understanding your opinion is nothing more then that, a opinion
loney bird Are You Saying My Opinion Is Pointless
What im saying is everyone has an opinion, and it seems childish to call others stupid just because they have a different viewpoint then you
or "idiotic" as you put it
Very subtle 4th wall break. 29:16
2:20 makes everything 100× darker
Chico sounds like Pit(same voice actor)
+foxxy moon Antony Del Rio
Brutal. I guess Kojima and MGS have finally matured when it comes to dealing with what war is actually like when you get to the blood and guts. And those bitching about the rape scene..
It is a common war crime, so it's realistic and doesn't cater to your need to be shielded of that ugly truth. Besides, they didn't get exploitative; it is only strongly implied in an audio recording. It's not like we see her getting gang raped. I can give you a dozen examples of games that exploit awful violence and I don't hear people bitching about those. Shit, if this were a GTA war game, I bet raping would be a mini game.
Also, you can choose not to listen to the tapes, right? Haven't played the game, but my understanding is collecting them is optional.
They wouldn't do that in GTA. Just because GTA is inappropriate, doesn't mean they would stoop to putting a rape mini-game in it. First of all, the series is mostly comedic, not straight up gruesome. Second of all, from what I've seen/played, there is no rape in the game.
There is torture though.
Aivottaja Rockstar isn't fucked up, they don't imply rape anywhere. The worst thing GTA has had is a torture mission and that had an anti torture message. You clearly know nothing about GTA, they get messages across, while the rape shown in the recordings didn't have a point to it. Just shows how sick Japan is.
@@djrocksgaming6255 So what you're saying is that you never switched to Trevor while he was staying at Floyd's place?
Also the point was to show how ugly this shit really is.
“Time for a taste test” is crazy ☠️
I'm gonna be honest, MGSV really shows that Kojima would much rather be doing something other than Metal Gear. Like seriously the dark and serious tone, and distinct style of the game and cut-scenes just don't mesh well with the Metal Gear canon. It would be more fitting for a new series, but I guess the logic at the time being was "big boss becomes villain therefore = dark tone". I guess that was the thought process.
It's more that Konami didn't want kojima to lol
Spoilers for TPP:
Holy shit, the reason I'm here is to confirm my suspicion that Paz and Chico are the 1st English strain parasite test subjects.
Hard evidence from the game. The parasite particles are all over the rooms of Paz and Chico. The coughing soldiers.
The person Skullface is talking to in the tape is breathing like someone who is affected heavily the vocal chord parasite. It almost seems that Skullfaces words killed him, heavily effected by the English strain. Words that kill.
This game as absolutely insane for doing this
And these tapes Paz doesn't want to speak. Paz and Chico's bolted ankles seemed like mindless torture, but the bolts were to protect the asset, the parasite.
Headphones in Chico's chest seemed to be his vocal chord parasite therapy.
What are parasite particles you are talking about! Please explain
@@un80rns just go to the rooms Paz and Chico are being held. They are full of green looking particles. Just like the Cypress lab
That's cool and all, but.. wouldn't Big Boss be infected too?
@@hugo8500 yeah that's the part I still trying to figure out. Maybe their Latin accents made it not quite work, part of the test. Could also be a false connection.
But we know from the tapes that XO (Skullface) was tasked by Zero to create the vocal cord parasite. And Scullfaces research was the push nano machines needed to be completed.
@@YoungMachette I think that’s the least of the plot holes in MGSV tbh.. I’ll give another one for free: if you select a black guy at the beginning, how and why is he used as a fake Big Boss/Venom
funny to see people wanting realism, when they get it they whine and complain. Very funny.
I guess they got too much realism this time 😅 (well I wasn't prepared to). But I agree that their reaction are "bitchy" (even if Kojima already knew about that).
Game """Journalism"""
That’s a bit of a disingenuous way of framing the criticism of this scene.
that's also the voice of Pit from Kid Icarus Uprising.
Isn't it wrong that me and my friend laughed when we heard "Love Deterrence" playing in the first tape?
I did too lmfao
To all the people saying why cudnt he be this scary in MGSV they took a ton of flack following GZ...too dark, exploits women, is insensitive to rape and so on. He was softened significantly in PP. This was the darkest material MGS ever put out and there were some severely negative reactions
Clearly you’ve never read Berserk. Even darker than this
@@ALJ9000 I've both read and watched berserk. Love the first arc until the eclipse, then its just not very good in my opinion
R.I.P Paz & Chico let your souls Rest in Peace
She survive but she lose her memories
Chico has effected by parasite and become a killer looking for revenge
@@ELGrandosmokio-qj2drno she’s really dead, big boss was having trouble accepting she was dead so he thought she was alive
@@lxquid.ocelot dammm they played us like damm Fidel
These tapes make it so much more harrowing.
You know I first time I beat skull face in phantom pain I took pity on him but after I watched this I re did the mission and shot him twice one for Chico and for Paz then I was done and let miller do the rest
I also did it because the first time I got a B rank and wasn’t satisfied now I got a S rank now I’m satisfied
Listening to the very last bit pisses me off. Chico could have had a greater end to his arc in TPP Just look at this concept art.
memesauce4.funnyjunk.com/pictures/Mgsv+chico+concept+art_097630_6499020.jpg
He may have been a parasite soldier stalking Venom around like the Burning Man.
I was really surprized when I heard a Hungarian sentence at 19:02. :)
yeah.... skullface is hungarian, apparently.
na mi mindenhol ott vagyunk
I never got round to playing mgs 5 until 2019, so I never played ground zeroes first... and now I’ve just finished ground zeroes and collected all the cassette tapes...
And HOLY FUCK Skullface is true demonspawn in ground zeroes compared to MGS5, and after hearing the tapes I dunno if that’s good or bad wdyt
26:52
Kazuhira Miller
Is that not Skullface?
Increible este juego, incluso si solo duro muy poco Ground Zeroes el contenido de las cintas lo vale
At the end of tape 4 Paz and Chico pork together I think that fuck up
The where forced too, or they would die.
15:00 WTF
R.I.P Chico & Paz the two lovers will always Love each other forever & die together and always be happy with each other when they are in heaven
"two lovers" one of them is 13 you absolute freak what is wrong with you
bakedbeansdotcom They had sex, and Paz supposedly offered Chico sex. They also kissed.
But yeah, it's pretty sick.
Yoda mate that’s the worst part of the whole tape. I mean celebrating a relationship built on statutory rape is a bit weird don’t you think. I have no idea why kojima thought the game needed this
bakedbeansdotcom I don't know either. Maybe just to show the horror of war, or just to be pervy?
Yoda that’s the worst part i don’t know if kojimas just an awful writer or if he really thinks that tape is a reward for players
I love kojima
Sweet or Sour..... what about savory lmao?
Chico the King of the Simps
I didn't watch or play the previous mg but I feel really bad for Paz. Does she really deserve all this as some people said?
I don't think anyone deserves this regardless of past sins.
Nah, she did screw over BB but she's basically been trained since a very young age to be a tripple agent. When you listen to the tapes she recorded while on Mother Base she completely loses the will to fight BB. But she fears what will happen if she doesn't (worse than death) and actually tries delaying it, but the presence of another mole at mother base telling cypher Zeke is ready to go, forced her hand. Basically, if she was left a lone, she would've been a total ally to BB. She just thought there was no choice.
Ralph Lindsen If she was trained so well she would have easily been able to leak the Intel to Big Boss and store a cyanide capsule in her if she was able to be caught.
You got a point with the cyanide, but if her fear was enough the betray the ones she cared for, it's definitely enough to be too scared to tell anything to big boss, especially if there is a mole around that would tell cipher what she did. Only two people know about her mission, cipher and herself. If cipher founds out through the mole that big boss knows about Paz, than Cipher will know Paz was the source.
Does she deserve this? No but she does deserve an ass kicking from BB at least lol
GOD DAMNIT!!!
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE!!
THEY PUT A BOMB IN HE-........why?
Because what skull face went through and saw as a child were horrible things that turned him into a sick broken man so he is trying to make the world a sick broken place
I see a lot of people complaining about the rape scene, which isn't even really a rape scene, saying it's 'pointless'. Would anyone like to tell me which rape scenes in anything weren't? Which movies, shows or whatever greatly benefited and were made richer with a rape scene? What books or games would be considered not as good if it weren't for their rape scene, hm?
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, Shawshank Redemption, and Kids
Dragon tattoo and shawshank could have just said it happened, alluded to it, nothing would have changed other than you would have been less uncomfortable. Kids a shit movie so whatever, who cared about Kids.
VaporWalrus If rape is something normal for you then I agree. For most people though, seeing it has a greater impact due to its brutality than just simply alluding towards it. Neither movie would have been as effective, including shitty Kids.
Trails in the Sky the 3rd.
Both the book and movie versions of A Clockwork Orange for one. It's meant to show how depraved and evil the main character is. Same thing for here I'd argue, it flat out screams at the player that this person you're up against has no qualms with committing atrocities to meet his own goals.
the best part of the game
v2791 Haha fuck that's dark
Doctor.: To make room for the bomb I am removing organs she will not need.
Me: You do realize that every organ is a vital in its own way right?
@nιcнтιge. um Need we Mention he Also place Bomb in Her womb So bruh
@UCuxagwupHKO8AuMmV4Ikpiw
I bet She even Knew that So it's The reason She jumped out Helicopter and Sacrificed herself To save Them from Explosions they Had already Gotten bombs From inside Her stomach But forgot About the Last bomb They put in Her well You know But Paz knew About that Last bomb That's why She jumped
@nιcнтιge. But again When she Was backing Towards helicopter Door she Was Saying there's Another bomb In my Then she Jumped Which also Leave us To question Exactly why She'd jump Did She know The bomb Was gonna explode Or she Was gonna Die anyway From blood Loss or That she Betrayed The man She loved Cypher and Big boss And have Nothing to Live for
@UCuxagwupHKO8AuMmV4Ikpiw But paz Also broke Too at Skull face Torture Mentally Physically and Spiritually he Tired Turning paz And chico Against each Other Telling paz He will Kill chico And big Boss And then Turning around Telling chico That she Betrayed him And wanted Him to Stay here Furthermore setting Trap for Big boss Using chico As BAIT And paz For leverage
@@JaevhonDouglas I think she were going to die anyway😓
3:51 Smh it was only the first tape and she had already sounded exhausted from being beaten and/or thoroughly raped
24:22 why does paz have doubts about which one to save? Big boss or cypher? Does she have loyalty towards Zero?
26:50 Kaz what the hell
viaze I dont think so I think he said it was Kaz because it kind of sounds like him also one reason I dont think it was him shouldnt he be at mother base
@@Raiden-uo8yd Why don't you believe your own ears? skull face even says he wants you to hear chicos little diary, and that he hopes the boss is still a good listener. What else is he hinting at? It's so obviously Kaz its funny and I hate that I didnt figure it out until 4 years after playing the game.
It's not Kaz, he's on Motherbase, you pick him up there at the end of GZ.
It's just Robin Downes doing a random soldier voice. He's been doing them since Snake Eater lol.
26:52 Who's voice is that, eh guys? guys?
"Commander Miller!"
when i was playing TPP for the first time, i refused to kill skull face right away in mission 31 just to fuck with the game, like, "what will happen if I don't shoot?" and...
i now wish i didn't.
19:01 HOLY FUCK THAT PRONOUNCIATION XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
(Native Hungarian speaker)
Skull Face is a busta
19:02 vihyétek a ketrecébe! Basszus scullface magyar?
aha. a backstory alapján almásfüzítő bombázásakor égett össze
Yes he is Hungarian, now wtf does that mean?
@@datboi2250 "take him to his cage"
SWEET OR SOUR?
Begining of tape 5 ... What does it mean? Is it Chico whipping?
LOOOL true true it sounds like that
Yes they made chico torture her.
metal gear got so dark after peacewalker
Question does this go into kojimas life story or... Is it just a game story????
30:30
14:45 Don’t mind me, just setting up a reminder
💀
After thinking about I can't really understand why Kojima thought we needed to hear Skullface's various torture sessions. Which include him belt whipping Paz, forcing her and Chico to have sex, having her gangraped, and the kicker: forcing a bomb into her abdomen that is set to go off when Snake rescues her in a timely manner. Oh, and this isn't even going into the second bomb Skull Face shoved up her vagina.
Don't get me wrong I'm not demanding that they get removed or anything. I'm just questioning the necessity of including them as the player is perfectly capable of figuring out what happened by the conversations heard around the base. 🤔
I think it is too make the player uncomfortable with the brutal reality of the situation. Almost for shock value. The biggest problem for me is the tonal dissonance. Yeah, MGSV is definitely the darkest game in the series but it's still weird when you have incredibly brutal and realistic stuff like this coupled with some of the really silly shit in the game. I know it's Kojima's style but I'd rather see him commit to the dark tone, or leave out stuff like this and focus more on the action.
The tone was supposed to be wayyyy darker in mgsv. Konami made him tone it down.
@MEGASMITHzz Why did you take this word for word from an old giantbomb forum thread titled 'Did Kojima go too far? (Chico's Tape spoilers)' ?
all that happens in tpp does not explain why these much hatred skullface inhibit! these recording completely shows skullface does not have any hatred for anything! all those stories about what happened to him is all excuse! he is a sadist! end of the story! he does have many things in common with chico and paz and many other victims but he acts like a villain without any care! i'll have to say tpp is a great game but not a great mgs game! skullface is a maniac and does not have any depth! he only has excuses for this and that so he could blow up the planet!
What was Chico thinking?! Going through this mission alone was reckless
Simping is real my friend lol
Brosky above has never loved someone 💀
It's funny how everyone defending the legitimacy of these scenes, which were meant for a mature audience, all act extremely immature when their beloved franchise is criticized by resorting instantly to ad hominem attacks about people's intelligence and such. Hey, some people don't want to play a video game where they have to listen to child sex, rape, and torture. Get over it. Being more sensitive to other people's boundaries is a part of being mature.
+Jay Something Just like you think people who defend the game are angry and "immature", they think anyone who criticizes it is angry and "immature".
They aren't being immature, they just have different opinions.
+Jay Something Again You And Those People On Top Comment Are Still Missing The Big Picture Of Skullface Using Paz And Turning Her Against Chico
You do know that you DON'T HAVE to listen to those tapes right ?
Bro this is actually the reality in our world u r not exposed to the dark net
Plus the criticisms of these scenes makes sense. The dark tone REALLY doesn't mesh well. Especially considering this takes place after Peace Walker, which was T rated. I mean I like it, its very well written. And I understand it has to get dark considering we're supposed to showcase Big Boss's decent into villainy. But honestly, the dark tone really makes me think Kojima is just fucking sick of metal gear and would much rather be doing something else. But the fans want what they want. How do the get what they want? Same thing they did to the creator of Evangelion. Death threats. And corporate pressure from Konami.
Skullface voice is so ... cliche. he sounds like a typical cliche bad guy.
Wait question how old is chico and paz?
Chico is 13 and Paz 20
@@azimutelefifou9521 *paz is 25
@@kittykitty4ever ah the beginning of MGS V ?
@@azimutelefifou9521 ye
First off: DAYUM.
Second off, to the people complaining about people complaining about Paz being raped, a few things. A list within a list, if you will:
1) Be honest, how many of you are guys, or just people who typically don't have to worry about taking precautions on a regular basis to decrease the chances of assault happening in real life? Nothing against y'all, I understand why you wouldn't have thought to think about this, I'm just wondering if you've ever had the experience of being in a situation where you DID have to watch yourself to avoid sexual assault. I'm saying this as a lady-type that habitually looks over my shoulder when I'm walking after dark.
2) I get that it's a thing that would probably "realistically" happen in a place like this, yes, but are we using the "it's realistic" argument to defend a rape scene where, not only does Guantanamo Bay exist in the world pre-9/11, but one of the main villains is called SKULL FACE? I agree that there's way, WAY worse ways this could have been portrayed, but correct me if I am wrong; hasn't MGS always been incredibly goofy? So forgive me if I find the existence of a rape scene in a series with ninja cyborgs, psychic ninjas reading the data on your memory card, giant fighting mecha robots, and a villain that is seriously 100% legit named Skull Face just a wee bit... gratuitous? Out of its range? I mean, if it's clear they're beating the shit out of her to show the villain is one bad dude, I don't think it's necessary to stoop to Paz being raped as a form of torture to establish how much Skull Face doesn't give a fuck.
I could say something too about sexual torture only being explicitly employed against a female character in a real life location where prisoners are subjected to such things regardless of sex or gender coming across as kind of... icky, but I feel like I've already opened the fucking flood gates here. I really want to try and have a mature discussion about this. If you might return the favor and keep it civil, I'd appreciate it.
ShootingStarNeo There's something seriously wrong with you if you thought Paz's rape was gratuitous...
MGS has always touched upon very serious themes, and her rape serves to drive the story and depict the cruelty of war to the audience. If you haven't noticed, for as silly as it can be, MGS has always been very anti-war.
War is never pretty, boy. Rape has always been a casualty of war, among other atrocities.
ShootingStarNeo So for the rape scene to give you peace of mind, it would have been better if BOTH Paz and Chico were raped, right? That way, rape wouldn't be explicitly employed on JUST women as you mentioned. Please look at the context of the situation. Chico got caught because he tried to rescue Paz, because he LOVES her. The rape scene was a torture for them BOTH as Chico is forced to hurt the woman he loves.
Kojima is a genius; let him do his thing. People like you hold creators back, you make them scared of offending or going 'out of range'... really?! There is no range, thats all in your narrow mind. Let the creation process happen. In MGS2, they speak of Otacon's father committing suicide and taking his daughter, Emma, with him as he drowns himself in the family pool. That doesn't seem very 'goofy' to me.
ShootingStarNeo In one of the mgs3 secret cinemas Raiden gets raped by Volgin, who also happens to electrocute Eva, beat and torture Naked snake. It is also hinted that Volgin beats and abuses Raikov and Eva. Not to mention every or at least most metal gear games have some theme of torture, child soldiers, nuclear war, PTSD (B&B corps, Big boss). While the goofy scenes are in the series it is mixed well with the very serious parts of the plot.
+Kes Cholo FYI
Both were raped. Skullfaced forced Chico to rape Paz. THEREFORE, he was raped as well.
(And that was what broke him, making him talk)
+ShootingStarNeo MGS "goofy" really? Have you ever played any?
Yes, there are humor in them. But they ALWAYS depicted very mature themes around war, espionage and betrayal. Sure, this is the first time someone is 'raped', but many were tortured before. So, what's the difference? They are all different kinds of tortures. You want me to accept that beating, shooting, blinding, electrocuting people and what else is okay, as long as it doesn't includes rape? Yeah, right.
If you think that's bad, you should probably stay away from Phantom Pain, I hear worse things are coming.
+ShootingStarNeo here's the thing: the rape? it's FAKE. do you even understand why it bothers you? it's not REAL.
Skullface is Volgin.
Skullface is Skeletor's grandfather who has PTSD from 'Nam.
In a hidden cut scene in mgs3 you can see volgins microbomb go off so I'm afraid it's not :(
But worst
Jack Miller what microbomb? those were exclusive to the cobra unit so they wouldn't leave their bodies behind.
that said, I too do not think skullface is volgin. with everything that has been implied in these tapes, I assume skullface is an ex-patriot.
Not Isaac No he isn't.
Volgin was the son of a rich russian military officer
Skullface comes from a village in some god-forsaken place somewhere in Hungary.
Also Volgin's dead, so...........
Can somebody answer this question regarding the, according to my friend 'pointless rape audio log'? Me and my friend have not played this game. I myself like mgs but have not decided to play this as it dosent have much story relevence, Never mind that anyway my friend tells me that these audio logs are pointless and have no plot relevence what so ever and i feel that he isnt looking into it enough to clearly know what relevence it has or what it is trying to convey. If anyone can explain to me the relevence this has to the game or any metal gear game for that matter it would be greatly appretiated
well it is pointless.. that's just Gayjima's way of trying to tell a story. which will apparently never come out.
to tell you what happened during the time when players are absent. to answer questions like "what's the motivation of chico to rescue paz" "what's paz's attitude to chico"
check the agent one below, that's soo important for skull face's character and motivation
What Skull Face did is pointless, but that's the point: most of the terrible shit people do is pointless. Also, it is just a little bit important to Chico and Paz's character development. I mean, rape and torture is obviously going to make a person change.
People ignore the harsh realities of this world all too often, and look where that has gotten us in the grand scheme of things. People who saw what was going on in MGSV wanted to look away from it the first chance they got, which is exactly why this shit goes on in the first place. If they don't have to see it, they don't have to think about it.
+Jim Shoe he was turning them against each-other.
I hope skull face dies...
(no spoilers plz)
He does.
+hitokiriizo it's a hallucination
+SilverRain Darth Vader is Luke's father
Han solo dies
What song plays at 2:19?
MrNinjaskills101 Darude - Sandstorm
MrNinjaskills101 Love deterrence.
pokemon
This game is really fucked up
Chico got bit by the love bug and tried to play hero lol whata Noob...thinking he was snake because he spend time around him haha Chico you foolish amigo lmao
Reapov Nonsense. He got the girl, mission accomplished. Happy ending.
Lol no piece of ass is worth that kinda of tragedy, not only did he betrayed his Comrades but he got a lot of men killed back at mother base because of the intel he gave up.. He also got morpho kill the helicopter pilot... But I get that your remarks are probably sarcasm :p but Chico messed up big time
@@Bluesruse that Was no Happy ending So what The fuck Are you Talking about
@@reapov2665 You are Ignorant for Saying that
he does all these tortures while playing that song! a song about people like him! another reason that skullface does not have any depth! he's a pure evil like any other villain + sadistic tortues! you have people like him all over the world working for all sorts of dictators! there's nothing special about him
***** Tape 4 from what I heard sounded like the alleged rape scene
It is.
Shit, it's the reason it got a Sexual Violence tag on the ESRB Description.
***** ......?.
Poor kiddo
RRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Allright, so which one of these was the,alleged, rape scene?
Towards the end of the fourth one
just be quiet
How do you know she was raped anyway?
research
Jason Brown You could hear it through the tapes
There's moaning.
18:18 paz is a perv yuck! poor chico
Didn't Paz deserve it? I mean, she betrayed the MSF and nearly killed Big Boss. Is it wrong to think that? Or is it just me?
listen to Paz diary from PW at the end she was changing her mind but she didn't because she was afraid of what Cipher would do to her if she didn't carry her mission
TheawesomeBryanX Alright.
Eh. I wouldn't say she deserved rape, but I wouldn't come and rescue her.
Hell yes she does! I don't know about you guys but I kinda enjoyed this... 😅 Matter of fact, I torture Paz every way imaginable in Ground Zeroes. Running over her by van, throwing grenades at her, throwing magazines at her unconscious head, and of course, shooting her using rifles and shotguns in the stomach and head. 😅
@@inhighdefinition Personal feelings aside, you're a sick fuck who needs to suffer.
This is my fetish. B]
Am I crazy, or is the acting in these atrocious? It's a shame because it could have been really dark and impactful but instead it just feels like a fumbled cringeworthy mess.
ChrisGol14 ahem jerk
Your crazy
What a dumb comment lol holy shit.
@@bulkyboi8810Ikr. Especially for an English dub this is great acting
You are 'rewarded' with finding the last tape with hearing child rape. It's a reward, a fucking reward, this is NOT good. MGS was never about reality EVER, it's a camp funny silly fun game, it has never taken itself seriously, and now we suddenly get RAPE TAPES as a reward for exploring...
It's fucked up, yes I know it's a reality of war, but this isn't what MGS was about. I am a woman and LOVED MGS but this is disgusting, I find it offensive. The ending the child is forced to rape the woman then they have sex ???
NO THANK YOU.
RAWR ANGRY
"child" while it dosent make it any better Paz is 20 years old while she is being raped.
And get the hell over it dude the whole point of the game is Big Boss' turning point to becoming a villain, it's not gonna be happy happy sunshine.
Lmfao, have you ever even played an MGS game? If you had, you would know that MGS has a very DARK tone, especially The Phantom Pain. So please, STFU.
Kojima clearly that stated for the new Mgs he wanted to go away from the "Sillyness" and "Humor". Thats why David isnt Snakes Voice in this.
He intendets to make a "true" Anti War-Game
It's a pretty realistic representation of real life war where rape with children is also a reward. But hey, gotta worry about them vidoegaymz amirite?