Here's Why This Old Truck Is Better Than Any New One! Cheap Jeep Challenge S2 Ep.5
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- Опубликовано: 24 май 2019
- ( www.TFLtruck.com ) In This episode of the Cheap Jeep Challenge we take a up close and personal look at the 1989 Jeep Comanche only find out it is better than most new trucks you can buy today.
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Tommy, I really think you've found your niche. Very informative, obviously well researched and with a bit of nostalgia thrown in. Thanks.
tommys niche is being a tool
@@seankinder2311 tommy seems like a good dude; you do not
@@humanpr0ject1 ooh, good one buddy
You will have more satisfaction owning that old truck than a $60k new one.
I like old vehicles but a new one is 1000% more satisfying to own.
100%having a new is like driving a car, driving a older one is a experience in it own
@@Whiteandsonsgarage goes to the what did you buy your ride to do there are always trade offs. i take truck
Butch Harner 100%. Would be great to have both, but can only afford older atm
I love the older, inexpensive truck videos that y'all have been making! Keep it up!
*You could take your kids to soccer practice.*
Back when it was new kids rode in the bed of the pickup.
I loved that when i was a kid . A friends father would take all the kids for ice cream . About ten of us would pile into the back of his f150 and go across town . It was great fun for us kids.
Or they rode their bikes to practice instead of spoiling the shit out of them!
Well move to wyoming and you still can
My jeep diesel Commanche was a great little truck. 35 - 40MPG across Canada. I wasn't expecting to go fast, just get the work I needed to get done.
Tommy is doing a fantastic job on his reviews!
Is quickly becoming my favorite member of the TFL team.
Keep up the great work!!!!
I miss actual mini trucks like this.
I've been daily driving a 91 comanche 4x4 for the past 5 years. I absolutely love it and I've owned lots of vehicles
You sir, have a much better engine and transmission than the jeep on this video. Good job getting the right year!
Brutal,
Which engine/transmission and what kind of MPG are you getting ?
@@xmo552 I have the 4.0 high output with the ax15. Running 35" tires and 4.88 gears. Too be honest I'm not worried about the gas mileage but it's probably around 15mpg. I'm considering a future diesel swap but the 4.0 is a great motor. I will be dropping in a bigger gas tank to help with range
@@DestinationUnknown4x4
Nice. That's not bad mileage for 35s. What's it take to fit them? My neighbor has a junked Comanche, but he won't sell it to me.
I have a 2004 WJ 4x4 with the 4.0 and 3.73s on 32s. I get 18-20ish MPG.
The old jeeps were superior for one reason... The CROTCH VENT.... best vehicle feature ever to grace summer time drivers in Texas.
I have AC in my seats now to help with the deep south summer swamp ass.
My vents don't switch so I can't relate (just remembered I don't have AC either lol)
Dude fr
Ha- Tommy “the French are good at building croissants” mica
Best part about the steering wheel: no buttons!
But I like my radio volume buttons!
Amen brother
The buttons aren't bad but to some they may make things more clumsy like accidentally pressing them
The Comanche the vehicle most of us wanted again. The Gladiator The one no one asked for.
Isn't it like that with almost all vehicles they are bringing back now... poor blazer...
Huber's Ranch yup. GM should have badged it as a trailblazer. It has nothing in common with the original blazer.
AMEN
It is actually the Scrambler re born. The Original Gladiator was the full size J Series truck
The jeep Wrangler pickup was way better. It's a 2 door with a slightly extended cab. The 4 door is so wrong.
I just bought a middle eastern S
pec. 2019 Toyota Land Cruiser, J79 single cab, 4X4, 5 speed manual, 4.5 v8 diesel, pickup, that really is, the only "built like they use to truck left", I am stationed Germany and the truck can't be taken back with me to the States, Your truck reminds me of my truck, which is wonderful.
Had 360k miles on my ‘88 Cherokee Chief when the transmission gave up
My old man owned multiple jeep trucks including a Comanche. It fueled my love of the brand.
To me it’s exactly why I love my 03 f150 supercrew fx4. It does what you ask of it. It’s not a classic or as cool as the Jeep but to me for a truck it’s all I need. I just had a/c recharged and locked at similar truck but new it was $62k sticker price. Holly crap.
I'd love to come across a Comanche in great shape like that one, I'd snatch it up in a second.
Pay me the right amount and I'll sell you 2
@@robertrichardson9953 do you still have comanche? Please contact with me
Perfect road head set up
Great review Tommy.........I like the way you speak ........very informative n great articulation
The glove box hinges at the bottom so that it becomes a "tray" for setting things on. My '95 Cherokee Country even had little indentations where the wanted you to set your cup. ONLY practical for when you were parked. You would be eventually wearing your drink if you tried it on the go.
I remember the same thing in our 1964 Valiant. Mom used it as her "kitchen" while making sandwiches on long road trips. The cup markers were pretty much useless as we never stopped to eat.
The renix system wasn't bad. I had a 87 xj that ran good up until I sold it with 270k on it. It used oil and the air didn't work but never had a problem out of the renix engine management system. I like to think that jeep is still running but who knows. The high output system that replaced the renix system was probably better but I never had one so I can't say.
Bench seats were awesome almost like air-ride.
The glove box door does not open the wrong way. It opens into a shelf. Some vehicles actually had recessed circles to place a can of soda. Like a picnic shelf.
It's quite amusing watching a youngster talk about an old truck because you weren't there you just don't know about some things.
I do enjoy the videos.
Much better than the ones I'm not making. 😊
I agree it does open up the right way I had a 87 short bed same color. The cab was small but the glove box made a good Shelf on road
BF Goodrich km3 tires. I build those tires at the Fort Wayne, Indiana plant. The sidewalls are no joke.
This brought back some memories. My first vehicle was an '86 Comanche. I loved that truck, wish I could get it back
As a 70's kid I perfected the e-brake turn with a foot pedal, you just have to hold the release out with one hand and steer with the other.
I really enjoyed this video Tommy
My parents bought one of these new in 1986. White and long bed but 4x4. We drove it for years and years. the last 5-10 years it never left the farm as it could not pass inspection without putting $$$ into it. Finally it sat under a tree until we traded it for something to another farmer. Might still be running today.
Where is all the cup holders for all those "here, hold my beer" moments ???? Lol🤣
Regardless....awesome find would love to have it..... nothing like a jeep. And yes that 4.0 is a rock star. Just the same as the old 300 straight 6 in the old Fords.
hmm yeah, until Ford decided to use wooden timing gears...Ford called it "composite" but we all know it was wood dust and epoxy...only Ford could screw up timing gears
@@philtripe duh huh hah derp
Along w/ the old Mopar Slant 6's & Chevy straight 6's also!
I subscribed to TFL truck for the classic Cherokee and Comanche videos. Keep them coming, as well as coverage of the new Gladiator!
I miss my Comanche now. It had those wheels and the Pioneer stickers, and it had bucket seats.
For whatever reason.
I ALWAYS found the Comanche the coolest truck of them all. Still makes my smile when I see one. (Which is a an absolute rarity I live).
The Comanche is a keeper, that is unless you want to sell it to me :)
Tyler Dickey or me
At last, a young person with practical common sense! It accelerates,it stops,it does truck stuff. One of the reasons I like yjs over tjs is that steering wheel.Great video.
In 1989 everyone was buying Toyota’s and Ford Ranger’s. I love the Comanche’s and XJ Cherokee’s!
I would buy the Comanche now over most trucks
Am i the only one who hates it when people complain about modern vehicles.Ya know what, I think this 80s jeep is too complicated. A covered wagon is much more reliable with all the comforts a man truly needs.
When you need to fix your vehicle, you really appreciate the simplicity of a truck like this. Don't get me wrong, I love my 2017 ram 2500 Laramie, heated and cooled seats, big navigation screen, all that jazz.... but I really love my 86 samurai because it's capable and super cheap and easy to maintain.
@@jook13 Agreed. I feel like you can love both of those kinds of vehicles. I think it is stupid and immature to completely discount either a sophisticated vehicle or a basic meat n potatoes vehicle. Both can be great in their own way. I hate when people make generalizations. Maybe thats just me.
I agree Tommy. Commanche was amazing. Well put together.
I had one of these brand new. A 91 I think. Basically no one wanted them so you could talk the dealer down on price like 6 grand. I had a fully optioned $18k truck out the door for $12k. It was a fun truck and like you said, just a swiss army knife of pickups.
This way my very first vehicle, and I loved my old Comanche! This video definitely makes me miss it. An absolute "work horse" for it's size!
I agree with you, I'd rather have this old truck than a new one. Especially if I am spending my own hard earned money.
It's a European designed engine management system. Which contrary to what this video stated, I found worked extremely well in my Comanche. The engine itself was an update of an AMC designating back to the 60s.
reminds me of all the reasons i loved my frontier pro4x. it was the extended cab, red with a manual too.
The 4 and 6 cyl engines that AMC used were from the Rambler days, 2 sizes of 4 cyl and the 2 sizes of 6 cyl (232 CI and the 256 CI). I had one of the early AMCs in the form of a 70 1/2 Gremlin with the X package and 256 cu in engine which could turn 18 sec flat in the 1/4 mile (stock). And also had the 4x4 Gremlin model from the 80s also with the big 6 cyl.
My first truck was a 1975 J-10. The original Gladiator. I thought about replacing it with the Comanche but ended up driving it for 29 years. When gas finally hit $4.00 a gallon and I needed an extra cab to haul around the family, It was time to replace “FrankenJeep” AKA “Frankie”. The Comanche was no longer available and didn’t come in an extra cab. I ended up replacing it with a 1999 Toyota Tacoma 4X4. 380,000 miles later, it is still going and has earned the nickname “4 Cylinder Frankie” AKA “Little Frankie”
First vehicle I have ever owned (since 2007). I'm currently restoring it at the moment. I miss driving it😢.
I used to love those vent windows in my old Jeep. Would allow a great flow of air on nice days.
I also miss gauges with actual oil pressure, temperature degrees and volt meter.
Great review! I was even able to cook my family supper and walk the dog during the steering wheel review😁
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My mother used to have a 89 Comanche back in the day, we had alot of fun with it. Throw a mattress in the back with one of those toppers and watch movies at the drive inn. Unfortunately it was 2 wheel drive and no air conditioning, so sweltering new england summers sucked. Also went a few years without music because a guy stole the radio out of the truck at the car dealership and cut all the wires inside, the mechanics couldn't even figure out how to repair that so we just put some black cardboard over the hole. After selling that truck, just having a vehicle with a radio and air conditioning felt like a luxury.
Jeep 4.0 engine is bulletproof
I love older trucks , simple and reliable
Great video. Comanche Jeep are so rare. I have 2 late 90's Cherokee's and love'em . Without hesitation I'd buy a Comanche, preferably a 92. I must say one thing you failed to mention is how easy they are to work on, and parts are still available. Nice video. Thanks.
For a video you guys had to make on the fly, Tommy you nailed it!!! Wish I had a chance to see that truck in person when I was at your offices!!
Great video Tommy, very well done.
You are spot on man. Those turbine wheels are literally a work of art. I just got those for my 99XJ and I love them
Never had a perfect vehicle, but had some that were so good and boring they were appliances, or felt like they were anyway, sometimes the little glitchy things give a vehicle a personality. Friend has a old 75 Chevy pickup, compared to today’s trucks, it’s slow, rides bad ain’t got air and only a AM radio, but I love riding the old Chevy, she’s a real man’s truck, so loud it’s hard to even have a conversation, but what a great truck! Tommy awesome video and I love the old Jeep pickup, personality by the tons!
Great video! Been looking for an MJ for years now. Finally bought a rust free red 88 for $1500!! Trying to keep myself from turning it into a rock crawler like my ZJ and LJ. Just want to use it as a ranch truck if I can contain myself.
You are awsome Tommy. I am partial to your understanding of what trucks were originally meant to do, and your appreciation for that. I would much rather have a truck of the past rather than new.
tommy...by far,this is the best video you have done,EVER !!! I hope they continue letting you do video's all by yourself....I would watch more tfl vid's if this is how they come out...I think you should hold onto this pu,and maybe do some upgrades,like lockers,maybe a better tranny,.things that would add to its off road capabilities,yet still keep it more or less stock looking....I think you have done a great job with this truck...keep up the good work...
Love this Series. Please continue!! Next up a Wagoneer?
Russ Freed I would like to see Wagoneer too!
The Comanche is my all time favorite. Its beautiful in its simplicity. Great looking Comanche!
I had a one with the 4 cylinder (I believe a 2.5) and the 5 speed. I talk about how cool that truck was all the time. Love this series brings back fun memories. I saw one for sale I buy it on the spot! 😎
It bugs me slightly that the rear track looks narrower because if I remember correctly you didn't put spacers in the rear. Otherwise great truck, wish I could own one.
Haha! I just bought an 88 Comanche. I luv it. Looks good next to my Cherokee
Thing looks mint! Just got a 90 that's had lots of work done to it. Most of it being updated to 97+ interior and obd2.
Tommy, i whole heartedly agree on most if not all of your reasons for the Comanche being the better truck. In their search for more car like qualities, all, not some, but all vehicle manufacturers of vehicles for the North American market, have gone away from what is needed, and now chase after what they believe is wanted. Problem is, designers are nerdly little geeks that don't work for a living. Personally, I don't want a computer to drive. I would prefer a truck. Diesel or gas, stick or auto, buckets or bench. Don't matter. But at least a truck.
Great review Tommy, nailed it.
Today we don't have pickups. Cars with a small bed. If the bed is shorter than the cab, it's not a pickup.
Dear Jeep, Can we get the Comanche back and maybe a Grand Comanche?
I doubt they would ever bring back the name, too "insensitive".
Chrysler killed the Comanche. They should have killed the Dakota instead and kept the Comanche. The Comanche is a lot better pick up
This is why I've kept my 1988 Comanche 4.0 for so long. Not my daily anymore but I'm in the process of starting a full restore. Also has bucket seats which has been nice. Auto trans is far better and has been solid for me. Ran 4 port 19lb injectors for better economy and power deliver, magnaflow catback, intake baffle removal, tightened up the front end a bit with poly bushings on the sway bar, and tons of other little things already done. SporTruck model and that's the end goal with it. A bit off road but perfectly compliant on the road with improvements in handling/braking.
Wow Tommy makes great videos! I Really enjoy his journalism style. He has really come into his own... Keep it up Tommy! Hello from Mexico 👍 🚐🏁
In less words it's what a pickup truck should be.
JUST A PICKUP TRUCK!!!!
They should start making trucks like this again. Not Jeep specifically, but, all truck manufacturers. I mean, they can keep making their big fancy trucks with all the new fancy gadgets and gizmos but maybe just add a simple basic truck to their line up, something like this Jeep. With a simple usable bed. With a bench seat just like in this one except where the center seat drops into an armrest and some storage in the armrest and maybe some below the seat. The simple dash is perfect but maybe add a more usable glove box, AC, a new but simple radio, cup holders, and only cruise control buttons on the steering wheel.A simple old school suspension system, driving, and 4WD systems. Maybe stock 31’s on the 4WD model since 33’s look too big for this truck. And a simple automatic transmission with steering shifter and a knob type 4WD selector on the dash will clear a lot of floor space. A simple usable, off-roading, hauling, towing, every day driving machine that an average guy/gal can pick up brand new at a dealer for around $20k (hopefully) instead of going thru the hassle of buying an old truck and fixing everything to make it drivable and usable. But thats what we’re stuck with doing because old trucks rock and new trucks are just way too fancy and expensive. It seems like as time passes, the manufacturers are more and more tailoring everything to the needs and wants of the well-off and the rich and we normal mid-class and poor people are constantly being forgotten about.
As always, great video.
And equally so, reliability is equal to the ratio of tech over mechanics. The more tech, the more inherently unreliable (or field-'un'fixable) something will be. T'was always thus. And thus t'will always be.
Awesome and interesting video
It's not "perfect"
It just does everything well.
great review great truck!
First time I have seen anyone review a bench seat and steering wheel, This is a earth shattering
I didn’t see this episode till today loved it
This video presentation is excellent. I always loved the Comanche, but never had one. (but am thinking about it)
I just purchased a 1966 Jeep J2000 Gladiator. 2 year old video applied for me today as I wait for delivery of my vehicle. Waiting to have some "classic" fun.
Tommy, your's left front shock absorver seems to be loosen, take a look con it. Excellent video by the way! Congratulations for your new toy!!
Tommy,your French pronunciation is on par. Awesome truck. Original is still the best.
You guys have great videos! What axles came on the old Comanche and Cherokee? Strong enough for those 33" tires?
Can you get the rear spacers machined to fit so the back wheels will match the front?
Excellent review as usual 👍
Would love to see a comparison between this Comanche and a similar modified Toyota and/or Nissan trucks of that error.
Thanks Tommy for a really fun review. I'm 54, grew up with these truck and really loved them. My all time favorite back then was my 1983 J-10 stepside with 36's...sure miss those days.
YEP, I like this truck, keep it simple, I would take this truck over any new Rolls Royce truck that cost 60k. Make sure you rust proof it with grease and oil.
What do you mean the glovebox "hinges the wrong way?" By hinging on the bottom, and creating a flat surface when opened all the way, it gives your passenger(s) a place to set their drinks/fries when you go to the drive-in. Many glovebox doors used to have circular indentures to indicate where you could place your drinks, and it would keep them from sliding around if you were driving (and not "power sliding" into the turns).
Comanche is a lovely truck, I'm getting mine tomorrow.
Good point about interior room. New vehicles are bigger on paper but if everything inside is big it doesn't matter.
I’ve got a ‘91 comanche and I don’t have a rpm gauge 😂, speedometer doesn’t work, temperature guage doesn’t work, ac doesn’t work, but MAN I LOVE IT!!
So jealous that you all have this truck!!!
You should get the Renix engine monitor device. Very useful with the ol renix system. Have one for my 89 xj and just love it. Lots of live data to see.
Most of the Renix test/diagnosis can be done with a good manual and a DMM/DVOM. I prefer Renix to the Chrysler OBD1
@@shorthood2518 quite true. I just had some extra cash from a bonus and ordered that Gizmo. Sits on my dash and looks spendy compared to the rest of the xj. Lol
Nice review Tommy!
I wish automotive companies would quit making trucks like Cadillacs and they're also priced like Cadillacs. All I need is something basic like the Comanche 4×4, decent ground clearance, and a reg cab option. There is no need for a remote control tail gate opener or a big ass computer in the middle of the cab.
You can buy a, relatively, cheap truck new. F150 single cab v8 4x4 under 30k. Granted it's a bloated elephant next to the Comanche and not as capable off road, but still it's cheap imo. Sure it would be nice if it cost around 20k but times have indeed changed.
I have an 87 4x4 Comanche, I agree with you completely. It is the perfect truck.
Beautiful truck! Want to get one later this year when I retire.
could it be a Canadian version? that would explain the "litre" thing and mph/kmh gauge
Getting ready to build a 88 2wd MJ shortbed. would like to get a list of all the mods you have done to your MJ. and what would you do different?
My Comanche was super comfortable on the road, sitting on stock suspension and tires. It just would glide over everything but also handled great, very flat thru the corners. The only driveability complaint would be the super over assisted power steering.
Never knew about the un. Cool info.
I absolutely love it!