Upgrade a Razor Ground Force 24V Electric Go Kart to 48V
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Today I'm upgrading my Razor 24V go cart to 48V. It's a lot more fun to drive but it comes at a price: heat to the motor. This especially hot summer adds to the insult. Maybe it will be fine in the winter but it definitely needs a cooling solution now, especially when we keep spinning it around and around...
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Awesome job.
I've also done this but with 1800 watt brushless kit. And lead acid batteries. Its heavy but lasts very long time.
All kids are dreaming with that project.. Excellentt
They kept taking turn on the cart until my battery went dead! I'm thinking of getting another one.
Honestly, your video helped me out a lot . Thank you sir and awesome job
That's awesome bud. I did something similar with my kids razor... You'll like this....
I put a 3 hp treadmill motor on it and powered it with 10, 20 volt DeWalt batteries. 200 volts! It rides wheelies and hits 35 mph. No speed Controller tho. Its all or nothing but driving it feels like time travel. Haha.
LOL. 200V? You can launch yourself to the moon with that!
@@vuaeco Pretty much. Lol. It's like sitting in a giant sling shot. It's crazy.
I am not familiar with electrical and wiring components I found a 36v on the side of the road go kart and thought hey why not take this I can build it to something that works and it would be great for my kid. Are there any videos out there how to step by step put together an electric go cart from start to finish? Thank you guys
are these one or two wheel drive?
@@localrice5184 the older ones were live axle newer ones are not.
Sir your a bad ass! I just came across the same go cart and the battery’s are shyt. I’m wanting to upgrade like you did wish me luck!
it def feels faster than it looks in this vid.. Im a fully grown adult and its 'feeling of speed'' compares to the electric karts at some popular place in NJ. Its scary the first few rides and i put off riding mine until i could change the tires/wheels but practicing in a parking lot helps get the feel. 48v 1800w. ill upload my solution that mounts a 48v 20AH battery easily daily secured from damage damage results the innocent battery cover. i raised the seat 4 inches and as is, the drifter critters a great size to throw in a car trunk and bback seat to transport 2.
this video helped me see the kart could handle 48v
oh mine is a ground force drifter
love your tutorials!. question are you comparing the battery life? those are only 4AH batteries the SLA's on my drifter are 9AH. While I know SLA is only 50% usable, I'd still think you'd get more run time? also in the other video I would like to know the controller model you used, there is no link or reference in description thanks!
Cool!
How about adding a thermal cut off switch super glued to the motor casing?
Aliexpress has them cheap and could be wired into the controller's brake handle motor stop. If the right temp is reached, auto turn off and wait for it to cool down and don't push it for so hard for too long, no harm!
That's what I'm going to try!
Take care
LoL very cool! "Dad, need new wheels, plz."
:D
I forgot I was watching videos at 2x speed so when this one started I was so scared for that kids safety! lmao
Looks like fun
Yes! By the way, I saw your "10 battery challenge" video along with the "Average Joe" video also. I've been salvaging some of my laptop batteries and I'm thinking of making a video doing 10 batteries to see if I can beat your time! :D
Dear Sir,
Another project well done. I like it. keep up the great work. Kind regards.
Thank you!
Dear Sir,
Thank you very much for your courteous reply. look forward to seeing more of it in the future. Keep well meanwhile. Kind regards.
Couple rings of plexiglass, then a solid lense made of plexiglass for the headlight would look good, maybe drill a couple 5mm holes from the back, not all the way through, beside the led headlight, into the rings to space the cover out to cover the headlight, maybe paint the tip of a couple LEDs, or glue a tiny piece of aluminum foil to the tip of the through hole led, or maybe use a RGB led or a pair of them, use the aluminum foil to disperse the light , but a 3-4mm piece of foil on the led, to make the ring of the headlight glow, like a halo, have a switch to turn off the headlight, and keep the halo lights on, maybe make a red tail light the same way, use a 3w red led, with a couple traditional red LEDs 1/4 watt or what ever, maybe use 4 of them, use hot glue to attach to the aluminum plate and plexiglass, that is about 8-10mm larger on all sides than the 3-5w cob LED, the holes drilled 90% through 5-3 Plexi spacer rings, and possibly use foil tape, or glue foil to the inside of the rings, to reflect the bright light, and keep the two light sources separate, then the clear Plexi cover, use tiny screws in the corners, with the LEDs in the middle on the sides and top and bottom, use the small led halo light rings, as a tail light, along with the front lights , yellow, orange, blue, purple, any color, every color, changing color!, The rear can be the same also, but red or yellow/orange would likely look best, use resistors and switches, to operate, I have one, I'm thinking about doing the same for my sisters lil boy, use a remote shutoff Incase he gets in trouble, I'm thinking a 4s lithium battery is enough for now, he is still young! But I have a 500w motor, a 350w and could put two on there eventually, I was thinking about putting larger wheels on it, and use a weed eater motor, make it go in grass, at about a fast walking pace, but the 500w at 36v motor I have, running at about 72v 20s lithium battery, just over 80v is about 2kw output, nearly 3hp, maybe use that and I can ride it, maybe use two of everything, motors, controllers, batteries, use a 350w24v and the 500w, with controllers to run them 12v overvolt, a 36, and 48v,or just run them both at 48-60v, the 850w should be in the 1800-2kw range, maybe get a 3kw 48v brushes motor, push it with a 96v controller, that equals alot more than 3kw, double the voltage, also doubles the current, that squares the wattage! 12 kw peak power, it would likely oner heat in 5 minutes, probably back it off to 72v
Great video, your videos are so neat. Great explaining.
Thanks Mike
vuaeco your so welcome, I think I smoked a 18V drill of a friends, I think I swapped + - around, not good. Oops.
Great job! I love it and I like the heat sink.
Great Video! I got a Razor like yours from a friend and want to try this upgrade. The only thig I don't understand is the battery packs. What is, or where do I get, the top piece that the battery clips into? The part that is like the bottom of the drill with the wires. I understand the rest, but when it comes to connecting the controller, I may need help. My Chinese isn't very good.
Love your project congratulations.
Also I love your accent.
I have a broken go kart I’m wondering if you can give me how to change to battery only?
Thanks for sharing
A 2000w ebay brushless motor would work great too
Yes, but it will cost a lot more. And you'll need to get the right sprocket and chain for it and that's a pain. Plus, you'll need a more expensive controller for the brushless motor.
Your English similar to my Chinese friend. Like 👍🏻
I think the Chinese have a different accent though.
Thank you for video, I will build one fir my kid.
sweet tech!
:D
How did you wire the 48v controller to the foot pedal since the wires do not match?
Nice work!
awesome video! How long does it run for with the new set up?
whats the run time for these battery pack? thanks
Great detailed video and I luv that accent
I have question. How did you upgrade the rear wheels on the silver ground force go kart? I'm looking to do the same. Thx
Good job
I'm interested in the razor crazy cart XL a lot of people are complaining about the weels can i not just upgrade the wheels and tire ?
Hi Vuaeco , I’v just found your channel looking for help to fix my sons 24v utv mx , I’ll give you the back story so far, the bike battery supplied was junk , very slow recharge time , not much power in the grass, so I hooked up my 18v 5amp makita batteries using the usb adapters from eBay removed the usb circuitry and soldered straight to the tabs, worked brilliantly then I thought I’d try my dewalt 54v but I just use crocodile clips it worked , not much quicker than the 18v mk batteries but definitely double the playtime so great but unfortunately the wires came loose and touched now I think Iv fried the control module as it’s completely dead ( very unhappy little boy 😢) , I’m thinking 48v 1000w control module but I’m guessing , I’m not sure if the motors can cope there 200w 24v , 1 behind each wheel , I would be very pleased to make a suggestion or point me in the right direction as I’m just a carpenter with a soldering iron and multimeter lol 😂👍
Very cool !!
Hi Vuaeco, I'm still at it. I have a 36v 500W controller. Can you recommend a battery to use with it and its impact to our razor cart? (will it go longer, faster, same as before?). I also have a 1000W 48V controller and just ordered some 24v kobalts to mirror your setup for my second cart. 2 boys, 2 carts - race time!! Thanks again for your video's - awesome stuff
How long does it last per run since you only have 2 layers of battery (4Ah?)?
I'm modding my son's power wheels form 18v to 24v using Kobalt as well.
It lasted quite a long time. We played for almost 2 hours and still got some juice left. (mostly spinning around like mad!)
nice n fun project sir, so overheating the brushed motor is the price of that fun, ever u think about bldc one compare to brushed one ? for next upgraded project maybe ?
I thought about it. But it'll cost a lot more as not only do I need a new brushless motor, I also need to get a brushless controller (and throttle) for it. Plus, I'll need to get new sprockets and chain for it.
if you still have this thing working then put the fan on the side with the fins!
Hey I'm doing 1 now trying to upgrade it to 36v with controller now after wiring and everything it's good works but once I jump on it as in a load it pops something and then does nothing but it I disconnect the battery and reconnect its fine so why won't mine go under load..?
Hey .. thank you so much for the video ...I don't know to much about batteries but I wanted to add another 2 ,12 volt batteries to make 48 just so the kart could last longer .... how do I connect the wires the right way is there a chart I could look at
So if I have 48v battery back with a 48v speed controller I can use a 24v motor or a 36v motor?
Awesome!!! Got that link to how to build this kart?
Have you measured the temperature on the motor before and after the heatsink installation?
Great video, amazing job. I have two of these and have been looking to attempt this project for the past year. Vuaeco can I use two Dewalt 20V batteries with the same controller? thanks
No, you can't use Dewalt 20V batteries on this controller. It cuts out at about 41V.
vuaeco Thanks for the quick reply! Can I message you directly? I have two controllers I’m looking at now. A 500W 36v, and a 48v 1000W, I have two carts as well. Would love your advice on what I need to get both going. It’s project time with the kids!!
@@vuaeco Hello! How long motor can work on this batteriess? :)
I wish you would have put a link where you bought the parts
I found the speed controller:
www.ebay.com/itm/24V-36V-48V-250W-1000W-Electric-Scooter-Speed-Controller-Motor-For-Bike-Bicycle/322556641661?var=511538267723
Still looking for that fuse switch he mentions in the video
Can you build up one for me? I have 4 units. Only 2 operate correctly.
What pedal did you use and where did you get it? also i plan making mine that is 52V (three 18V batteries) what controller do you recommend?
I got that pedal on ebay. It cost about $10. If you use 3x 18V batteries, you can still use that 48V controller shown in the video.
Awesome video! I would like to do the same with a 56v battery pack I have (EGO). Could you recommend a speed controller?
Did you ever find out what speed controller to use? Looking at doing the same
@@pcooper5177 I found a website with lots of options but haven't pulled the trigger on one yet: www.electricscooterparts.com/speedcontrollers60volt.html
Wow that’s fast.I want to race you.
how did you get the front style rubber wheels to work in the back?
I wonder how this kind of kart would do if it was a hybrid with a drivetrain similar to a prius where the engine electrically powers the wheels.
We can do that lol. You done it yet?
What is the exact name of that fused disconnect switch? Where can I find one like it? Love your videos! New subscriber!
It's called Ferraz Shawmut fused switch. You can find plenty of them on ebay/amazon.
Hi, my 9year old is making his own go-kart and is inspired by your video. quick question- did you use a brushless motor? was it also a 24v motor? how did you connect your speed controller?
It's the original 24v brushed motor from Razor. I showed how I connected it in details in the video if you watched it.
What do you have wrapped on the front wheels ?
duck tape on the right side, PVC pipe on the other side. These are mods for drifting. :D
vuaeco are these one or two wheel drive?
Are there rubber wheels for this thing?
Honestly not to disrespect, however it’s like listing to Buklaw in ownage pranks
That's a bonus. Thanks for an honest opinion. :D
vuaeco , seriously Good Job for the upgrade, I got one for my kids, I’ll be needing your help to guide me thru the process of upgrade
# respect
Why not use lips batteries ?
Hi vuaeco, got a part number for the Ferraz cut-off switch? Going to upgrade my bike to 48v motor/controller using the snapper 60v 2Ah. I will probably use a 48v (or 40v) fuse in it. Thoughts? thx!
It's looks like a CMS101
I love the unmounted vise ... really would work better if it was on a workbench :)
Go figure this man just did something awesome and that’s all you got to say? Your a douche bag. Go play with your Barbie’s!
@@thelevelcrew wow commenting 2 years later ? Get a life dude and maybe read my comment. A proper work area is no joke.
Why did you remove the chain guide/tensioner?
Where buythe batterie
Do you really need the speed controll?
What size pvs is that
I did a mistake on buying a dc motor...we should always go for gear motor bcoz load capacity is much more higer than gearless motor
In minute 5:00 you call it a fuse switch were did you buy it I need
It's called "fuse holder" and the manufacturer is Ferraz Shawmut. There are plenty of those on ebay.
@@vuaeco thank you amigo so much and I appreciate it
Amigo I need your help I need that switch you have on there for the power what's it called and where can I find it
Is it the accelerator pedal you're asking about?
@@vuaeco the kill switch with the fuse in it
What's your emailI want to send you some pictures to see what I'm talking about and see if you can help me in a project I got for my son's
Adding battery packs with separate BMS is not a good idea. If your packs are not balanced with each other they could catch on fire and explode.
They are 2x 24V in series. Why do they have to be in balance with each other?
How to connect controller when all comenfrom china with no manual?
Basically you just need to connect 3 cables. Throttle 3-prong cable, red/black power cable to the battery, and finally blue/orange cable to controller.
where you get battery adapter
which one? The 24V or 60V?
how many amp
Motor wattage
I just put a 49cc 2 stroke engine on my sons it's faster than thos 48volt and just put gas in it cost me 52 dollars
what engine
@@alexandermair3944 got it off ebay for 54 dollars dont know the make
I think your pulling to many amps from the battrey
The battery stays cool the whole time. This battery is capable of handling 40 Amps continuously. The controller and motor can only pull about 35A max so the problem here (if there's one) is not the battery but the motor and controller. I have tried this same controller on my electric scooter and it worked like a champ. The motor does get hot and that's where the heatsink and fan came in.