At least they seem to have stopped "destroying" the computer by shooting the monitor. That doesn't stop the computer, just makes it so you can't see what it's doing.
Entire Star Wars universe really. Vader & Luke? Amazing. 37 other unnecessary relationships? Not good. Someone tell George Lucas that the entire galaxy doesn’t need to revolve around four families.
@@BClarke And what about Star Trek. Poor Spock was the first child of a mixed Vulcan-Human marriage. That must be tough. But he also had a half-brother he never talked about until The Final Frontier and then an adoptive human sister he also never talked about after season 2 of Discovery.
That's the first reason M3gan is on the forget-it-happened list. ("Emh-three-gan?") The newly-orphaned, little girl needed a guardian and a caregiver. The inventress working at the tech giant needed a beneficiary. The movie DID NOT NEED the ludicrous coincidence of the inventress and the little girl being related.
This video made a mistake about the first Independence Day film. Destroying the alien mother ship didn't immediately destroy the other aliens, nor did it eliminate some kind of "hive mind." Instead, the signal from the mothership that coordinates the energy shields of the invasion forces was destroyed.. That's why the US President's flight squadron stood a chance against the dogfight afterwards. Their missiles and bullets were able to penetrate the aliens' vessels. Furthermore, it took the sacrifice of the crop duster pilot for humans to learn how to destroy the city-size flying saucers. Remember, the general character said, "Spread the word across the globe. Tell them how to take those sons of b*tches down."
This is precisely what I came to point out. There was never any kind of hive mind... the humans simply infected the "server" with a virus, and this affected all of the connected clients. Also, the last two bombs in Cloverfield *were* nuclear. I realize they did a really bad of representing this, but it was mentioned by one of the soldiers when he referred to the "Hammer Down" protocol. Hack the Gibson!
They did not nuke The Clover monster either, they carpet bombed it. Literally says so in the film. But hey a WhatCulture episode being terribly researched is just a given at this point.
Indeed. I was pleasantly surprised (in that regard at least) by the last Lara Croft movie because she's mostly ambushing people or using ranged weapons.
There's definitely some movies that do that terribly but I do think it's telling that we've just come to accept it when a 150lb man can clear a room because he's "former Special Ops".
Whatculture has to remind us at least once per list that they stand on the “right side” of any social issue. It’s reached the point of self-parody pandering. I’m like, can we just discuss the movie without yet another “Wink wink, nudge nudge. See how much we hate the bad people?” 🙄
At least in 10 cloverfield lane it made a bit of sense. She's in an underground concrete /metal bunker. I lived in a 1970s concrete apartment building and phone reception wasn't a thing. And I was well above ground
The evil music manager isn't always gay, but it's always a sleazy guy... And knowing the music industry it's somehow realistic. A lot of musicians have been straight up robbed by their managers.
The car never starting until it absolutely needs to which is always at the very last minute and most of the time it gets shut down either by the villain or crashes into something before it gets very far. Ugh.
They took the piss out of the miltary solution in the comedy sci fi Evolution where dropping napalm on the alien invasion has an unexpected and rather hilarious but dangerous response. I thought that was very clever.
Shocked my biggest pet peeve wasn’t mentioned. When the car will turn over but not start when someone or something is about to hurt/kill them. Then the car miraculously starts JUST in time. That’s been a cliche for decades. Two others; While running away someone ALWAYS falls down. A person fumbling with keys to get a door open.
What about movies not understanding gaming or gamer culture? I can't tell you how many times I've seen people holding game controllers the wrong way to make the game they are playing even remotely plausible..
Yeah, so true! The one that comes up for me is Charlie's Angels (2000) when Barrymore's character has survived a fall from a house on a hill, she walks up to a window and knocks on it while inside two kids play Final Fantasy 8 (PlayStation) at the same time as if it's a beat 'em up game. Even the way they play it suggests the same thing, continuously smashing the buttons. It's ridiculous.
(5:13) In 'Zack Snyder's Justice League' the team had to defeat each and every single ParaDemon which they did without Superman. None of that "being scared makes my henchmen drag me into a boom tube." like in 'Josstice League'.
People playing a video game by moving around all over the place as fast as they can, when most of what they are doing, especially with a controller would involve little movement other then the thumbs.
II definitely agree that 'Hack the mainframe' needs to be #1. Another one that's less used today, but for the longest time, every car crash - and I mean EVERY car crash - would end in a fiery explosion. As if every car had a couple sticks of TNT in the trunk. Heck, even a lot of westerns, a wagon or train would go over a cliff and ... fiery explosion.
"You are not my father", & The teen as chosen one, who has a heart of gold (as if there is only one in the world) but the competence of a child, i mean if you need a chosen one to fight the dark lord choose a fing soldier (loyalty, competency, heart all in one)
@@rockero1313 I think they mean the moment Anakin "accidentally" shoots the control tower, thereby destroying the ship and also disabling the droid army on the planet's surface below. Also, this is directed to the OP but, Independence Day predates The Phantom Menace (ID 1996, TPM 1999), so the point in the video still stands and your initial argument is invalid.
My "annoying cliché that needs to die" is the super spy who has unlimited access to passports and weapons and people who can help them across the globe. And usually from the same movies, police SWAT reinforcements that get wiped out real quick, like if they don't know how to fight. Honestly, I like the spy genre but it has enough clichés for at least two videos.
Can anyone help me out with the music manager one , i can only think of one movie ive ever even seen that in and non of the other biopics ive seen have ever used that
I agree with the bad cell connection. I would add what we've probably seen more than all these complaints combined: a character falling in general, or falling and sprains their ankle, while being chased by a killer.
Back in the 80s, I remember a trend that bothered me: in TV shows and movies, it was rare to see an arcade game being played with the correct sound effects. For some reason (legal issues?) they would dub in sounds that were completely wrong-like funky stock sounds.
I miss her love and enthusiasm for horror movies!!! Ash was the most sincere about her videos. The greatness of the rest of the staff notwithstanding, of course.
I don’t agree with Independence Day having a kill the queen cliche. The virus just brought down their shields. They still needed an army to defeat them, or in this case Air Force. Destroying the mothership also didn’t defeat them. They still needed to destroy all the other medium size ships and even when they were destroyed the small ships needed to be destroyed. There is a scene showing a jet chasing one after ship blew up so they were still active. The virus just removed an advantage that allowed human army a chance to defeat alien army.
This most often applies to horror movies - would-be victim in a car that won't start while the killer slowly approaches, only to have the engine fire up at the last second allowing would-be victim to escape.
Also, the "nuke the site from orbit" trope really takes hold in 1985 with Return of the Living Dead, which predates those other films by decades. I seem to recall it originating even earlier in George Romero's 1973 film The Crazies, but it's been decades since I saw that movie so I'm not sure. In both those films, the towns actually DO get nuked, with (especially in RotLD's case) disastrous results.
While I have not seen Rocket Man, and so cannot comment on its portrayal of John Reid, Elton's autobiography Me makes it pretty clear that 1. Reid was flamboyantly camp; 2. he WAS John's first gay lover; and 3. Reid DID wind up fucking John over in a way that destroyed their friendship. And while other gay managers of classic music artists like the Beatles, KISS, Rod Stewart, the Bee Gees and the Who may not have been evil, they were flamboyant to a startling degree.
Nanotechnology should be on this list. Sure it's convenient, but way over used and, for me anyway, breaks suspension of disbelief. Iron Man 1s clunky suiting up I like, the briefcase in 2 great, but the whole Nanotechnology suit ups meh. Still liked the action, just not the nanotec.
Was on Notre Dame’s campus for a football game last month, it’s 2024 & there was hardly any internet. Couldn’t call, text & had to walk back to the hotel from the stadium because we couldn’t access Uber. It was we could only play 30-45 second snippets of songs on Spotify bad. The No Cellphone Trope lives on
One subtler way in which 7:59 applies, albeit not to a production that's out-and-out part of the horror genre: They've adapted The Killing Floor into the first season of Reacher? That's great news! 😊 They set it in present day? They didn't recreate the decade in which that book was published? You can understand that choice, at the very least, and you may well LIKE that choice. (So by no means am I criticizing this point.) The thing is that franchise is applauded for how plausible the tactical conflicts are. Yet there's Reacher and his allies using the occasional smartphone. They show minimal regard for the criminal syndicate's resources which definitely would give them the option to hack the phones, eavesdrop, etc. Contrast this with Never Go Back in which Reacher chides the teen girl he's protecting just for her carelessly traceable use of a dumbphone.
Surprised no mention of Phantom Menace in connection with #7. Come to think of it, though, Lucas could have fixed that if he'd thought of it. Capturing the Viceroy was an important objective anyway. They could have forced his technicians to shut down the droid army.
I'm sorry, but the "everything always only happens in the US", including alien invasions and natural disasters cliche is the one that has to die, not the odd pandering to China. Calling the latter a tired cliche in the light of the former is borderline xenophobic.
Sure, Jan. As if every disaster film doesnt show the Eiffel Tower destroyed or Big Ben. I have even seen a smoldering Taj Mahal. There is nothing xenophobic about making a movie that an American audience can relate to. Now, maybe you are saying the aliens should only kill ppl in other countries and leave the US alone?
The random Chinese character thrown in to appeal to Chinese audiences, I think, became the most ridiculous in two recent movies Kong, Skull Island, set just after the Vietnam war, featuring Vietnam veterans in a special operations unit fighting Kong and they use a random female Chinese scientist who literally in one scene and is never seen again Transformers Age Of Extinction in which the entire last act is set in China where, somehow, you can drive from Beijing to Hong Kong in the span of one night, there's a prominent scene in which Stanly Tucci drinks a box of milk (juice box size), and saying that the Chinese air force will save the day, (they don't show up until after the fighting ends) The Great Wall was another one that only featured three western actors, Matt Damon (as the love interest to the main female lead) Pedro Pascal and Willim Dafoe
In fairness though, wasn't the Great Wall entirely based around the Great Wall of China? There at least there is some kind of merit in it having a focus on Chinese characters, though being Hollywood they always opt for using literally any other Asian heritage to suffice, as though they all look alike.
Nuking the city may go at least as far back as the nuking of Louisville, Kentucky in 1985's Return of the Living Dead, where the bombing was used to darkly comic effect.
Josh or whoever wrote this is very uninformed about how large some countries are and how bad cellular service can be. Florida isn’t even the largest state in the United States, but we have large areas that have only recently started getting decent service. No matter how much you pay whichever company, you can’t get decent service in some places, if you can at all. There are even more remote areas in other states that I imagine have even worse service. Even in decent size cities, you can be on the ground floor of a 2-story building and have no service if there’s too much metal or machinery around you. I know of a mall like that. So that “cliche” isn’t as dumb as he makes it out to be.
I am not into action movies nor superheroes. Are these cliches still being used ? : The monster (or the enemy or whatever) líes on the flor and the lead man think it is already dead. He rests for a few seconds and the monster raises. Explosions in the background, but guys walk away slowly and calmly.
I feel like I should add age of ultron doesn't really count as a "kill the queen" cliche being they literally had to destroy every trace of ultron 🤷♂️
Now if Hollywood could keep budgets under control, they could afford to tell China and its market to take a long walk off a short pier and not pander to them. Release the movies, sure, but stop pandering to their sensabilities and restrictions and we will get beter movies and stories.
I think Game of Thrones could have been very interesting if, when the night king dies, the wights become corpses again. Not "dead" but not aggressive either. You just have a horde of undead forever wandering until people take them all down, but there are so many aimless now, running into wights in the north is a norm.
Nuclear strikes. The movie Outbreak has it too, not a nuclear bomb but one, powerful enough to wipe a whole town. It's the same cliche though. Things that need to go is that once the conversation's over, someone, will always say some stupid punchline, that makes no sense, just to prove that they are smart enough to have the last word. And my all time personal favorite shit : The killer wounds your buddy, /gf, what have you and then comes after you. You luckily knock him out and drop your weapon right next to him and go to check on the wounded one. NATURALLY, the bad guy comes to and smashes your head in, with the hammer you used to knock him out but left it right beside him, as if you were begging to have your head smashed in. HOW STUPID IS THIS ? You won, finish the damn job, he's a killer, why leave him alive ? evil wins.
Sometimes I think about how many movies would be 15 minutes long is the main character just told the truth and moved on. Lol. But there’s no entertainment there. Still can’t stand it tho LOL
Related to the one about death before exposition: is it true the victim at the start of Da Vinci Code could have ID'd his murderer plainly, before he bled out or whatever, in a note for investigators later? 😂
Um, in Inedepndence Day destroying the mother ship just took down the shields of the ships on Earth. The humans still had to go into combat to take them down.
I'm sorry...which films introduced the nuke the city plot? What about th film "Outbreak" from the 1990s.... the entire last half hour was devoted to this
The taking advantage of a disable person for the sake of a non disabled person one is particularly annoying. As someone who is neurodiverse I can't stand it when they put an autistic person or someone with a different neurodiversity in a film to be laughed at. Like "look at this person who acts strange. Everyone laugh at them". Occasionally it's done respectfully (The Blue Ranger in the 2017 Power Rangers film who was the most lovable character) but most other times it's insulting (The Flash movie)
Some of these shouldn't be on this list by the way you are saying this, there has been hardly any movies about dyeing teens romantic movies. nor some of the others you have mentioned on here.
What i thought for some time was a bad cliche turns out to be sadly true... The electricity going out everywhere in any apocalypse/ catastrophe.. if everything isn't maintained on a daily basis all the worlds power goes out in about two days, with hoover dam maybe lasting 3 or 4 days. Why hoover dam lasts longer I'm not really sure.
One of the things I hate is when they make the gay characters to support toe rom com girl, like they are just an accessory, or making them the villain. There are better ways to show characters.
Some tried to make original characters like the 2016 ghostbusters and Star Wars EP 8 but the fanbase absolutely lost their collective minds and had a nervous breakdown about them and so the studios gave these horrible people what they wanted, and what they seemingly wanted was bland vanilla movies where the fanbase gets to do the DiCaprio meme where they get to point at the screen and go “ooh look”.
Do the people at WhatCulture even watch the movies they talk about (and often claim to love)? You folks make videos about things in which I am interested, but you never quite seem to get it right. As a matter of fact, you often get it very wrong. To be clear, I am not referring to your conclusions or opinions, but to the basic facts. You have misinterpreted, misrepresented, or just straight up lied about the plot of a film more times than I can count. Q: How many writers, editors, and other contributors will it take for you to get this right? A: More than you have.
#1 should absolutely be Time travel fixes everything!!! Why should I care about anything bad happening to The Avengers or X Men if you can just go back in time and fix everything? The idea of time travel is tired and stopped being a clever way for things to make sense 35 years ago. The idea of parallel universes or realms is even worse. That line of thought takes the meaning out of everything and stopped being clever 15 years ago.
And, actually, the opposite of 7:59 could have been true for a Scream V & VI if they'd stuck to the premise evolving organically. A key element of the first film was how a criminal could terrify you just by using the phone. If they'd stayed on the cutting edge, the legacy sequels could have been about how hive-minded imitators hack victims' phones, putting them in constant doubt. No, though. Instead they gave us entries that insult the entire audience with lies, hypocrisy, and boujie bias. Please boycott those newest excuses for Scream movies.
At least they seem to have stopped "destroying" the computer by shooting the monitor. That doesn't stop the computer, just makes it so you can't see what it's doing.
Spiderverse self aware joke about this was great
@@thisisthisis542"We don't need that."
You missed the biggest cliché: Fumbling in an entirely unnecessery familyconnection, just to make it 'more dramatic'.
“Rise of Skywalker,” anyone?
Entire Star Wars universe really. Vader & Luke? Amazing. 37 other unnecessary relationships? Not good. Someone tell George Lucas that the entire galaxy doesn’t need to revolve around four families.
It’s Kathleen Kennedy we should be telling that to now.
@@BClarke And what about Star Trek. Poor Spock was the first child of a mixed Vulcan-Human marriage. That must be tough. But he also had a half-brother he never talked about until The Final Frontier and then an adoptive human sister he also never talked about after season 2 of Discovery.
That's the first reason M3gan is on the forget-it-happened list. ("Emh-three-gan?")
The newly-orphaned, little girl needed a guardian and a caregiver. The inventress working at the tech giant needed a beneficiary.
The movie DID NOT NEED the ludicrous coincidence of the inventress and the little girl being related.
This video made a mistake about the first Independence Day film.
Destroying the alien mother ship didn't immediately destroy the other aliens, nor did it eliminate some kind of "hive mind."
Instead, the signal from the mothership that coordinates the energy shields of the invasion forces was destroyed..
That's why the US President's flight squadron stood a chance against the dogfight afterwards. Their missiles and bullets were able to penetrate the aliens' vessels.
Furthermore, it took the sacrifice of the crop duster pilot for humans to learn how to destroy the city-size flying saucers.
Remember, the general character said, "Spread the word across the globe. Tell them how to take those sons of b*tches down."
This, it only crippled the Alien threat, it didn't outright null it.
This is precisely what I came to point out. There was never any kind of hive mind... the humans simply infected the "server" with a virus, and this affected all of the connected clients.
Also, the last two bombs in Cloverfield *were* nuclear. I realize they did a really bad of representing this, but it was mentioned by one of the soldiers when he referred to the "Hammer Down" protocol.
Hack the Gibson!
The cliche arguably started with The Phantom Menace.
They did not nuke The Clover monster either, they carpet bombed it. Literally says so in the film. But hey a WhatCulture episode being terribly researched is just a given at this point.
They mention that it’s not a nuke in the video
for me, it's the 120lb girl boss with no superpowers who can beat a room full of 250lb men without even breaking a sweat.
Indeed. I was pleasantly surprised (in that regard at least) by the last Lara Croft movie because she's mostly ambushing people or using ranged weapons.
The Critical Drinker always calls them "the world's most accommodating stuntmen." Love that quote!
Everyone knows martial arts, but the good guys always know it better.
And somehow being good-looking and straight amplifies this ability by 10.
There's definitely some movies that do that terribly but I do think it's telling that we've just come to accept it when a 150lb man can clear a room because he's "former Special Ops".
Asthma afflicted characters whose inhaler becomes a plot point. Please stop. It’s a bad cliche, and sign of weak writing.
As a person with asthma I kinda agree
Forgot car chases where there is a crash into a fruit stand.
Oh no, my cabbages!
2 things that always happens:
1. driving on sidewalks
2. driving into incoming traffic
There HAS to be a fruit stand, it's the law!
@@pobsdad Or a hay barn!🤣
The evil gay manager is a thrope? We've only have seen it in two movies 😂 the whole music biopic has many other cliches
Also, it was the SAME guy. John Reid. He actually existed.
Whatculture has to remind us at least once per list that they stand on the “right side” of any social issue. It’s reached the point of self-parody pandering. I’m like, can we just discuss the movie without yet another “Wink wink, nudge nudge. See how much we hate the bad people?” 🙄
Have you actually tried getting a phone signal in the UK nowadays? "Cliche" is solid reality.
At least in 10 cloverfield lane it made a bit of sense. She's in an underground concrete /metal bunker. I lived in a 1970s concrete apartment building and phone reception wasn't a thing. And I was well above ground
The evil music manager isn't always gay, but it's always a sleazy guy... And knowing the music industry it's somehow realistic. A lot of musicians have been straight up robbed by their managers.
The car never starting until it absolutely needs to which is always at the very last minute and most of the time it gets shut down either by the villain or crashes into something before it gets very far. Ugh.
Same with running out of ammo.
And random cars left unlocked with the spare key under the sun visor.
They took the piss out of the miltary solution in the comedy sci fi Evolution where dropping napalm on the alien invasion has an unexpected and rather hilarious but dangerous response. I thought that was very clever.
Shocked my biggest pet peeve wasn’t mentioned.
When the car will turn over but not start when someone or something is about to hurt/kill them.
Then the car miraculously starts JUST in time.
That’s been a cliche for decades.
Two others;
While running away someone ALWAYS falls down.
A person fumbling with keys to get a door open.
As if hitting the steering wheel is a valid alternative to a jump start....
Tbh, I fumble my keys at the best of times. If someone was trying to kill me, I'd be in real trouble.
What about movies not understanding gaming or gamer culture? I can't tell you how many times I've seen people holding game controllers the wrong way to make the game they are playing even remotely plausible..
Yeah, so true! The one that comes up for me is Charlie's Angels (2000) when Barrymore's character has survived a fall from a house on a hill, she walks up to a window and knocks on it while inside two kids play Final Fantasy 8 (PlayStation) at the same time as if it's a beat 'em up game. Even the way they play it suggests the same thing, continuously smashing the buttons. It's ridiculous.
Or TTRPG culture: popular media always merges roleplaying games with LARPing. This goes all the way back to the early 80s. 🙄
My favourite "hacking" scene was in NCIS where two characters are typing on the keyboard at the same time.
silly, sure, but I'd give my left leg to share a keyboard with Pauley
The guy in war movies who shows the photo of his girlfriend and explains his plans for after the war
(5:13) In 'Zack Snyder's Justice League' the team had to defeat each and every single ParaDemon which they did without Superman. None of that "being scared makes my henchmen drag me into a boom tube." like in 'Josstice League'.
People playing a video game by moving around all over the place as fast as they can, when most of what they are doing, especially with a controller would involve little movement other then the thumbs.
II definitely agree that 'Hack the mainframe' needs to be #1. Another one that's less used today, but for the longest time, every car crash - and I mean EVERY car crash - would end in a fiery explosion. As if every car had a couple sticks of TNT in the trunk. Heck, even a lot of westerns, a wagon or train would go over a cliff and ... fiery explosion.
With cell phones it's also that the battery is dead when needed
Empty pistol magazine too.
What about the convenient miracle device that the protagonist just happens to have?
"You are not my father", & The teen as chosen one, who has a heart of gold (as if there is only one in the world) but the competence of a child, i mean if you need a chosen one to fight the dark lord choose a fing soldier (loyalty, competency, heart all in one)
The "destroy the queen" bit provided yet another groan-worthy element of The Phantom Menace, which predates Avengers though not Independence Day.
when did the "destroy the queen" happened???
@@rockero1313 I think they mean the moment Anakin "accidentally" shoots the control tower, thereby destroying the ship and also disabling the droid army on the planet's surface below. Also, this is directed to the OP but, Independence Day predates The Phantom Menace (ID 1996, TPM 1999), so the point in the video still stands and your initial argument is invalid.
the "nuke the city to eliminate the threat" trope goes back a lot further than that - I remember it from _The Andromeda Strain_
“Filmmakers know what works and what doesn’t”
*looks at Joker 2 and Borderlands*
Are you sure about that🤨
My "annoying cliché that needs to die" is the super spy who has unlimited access to passports and weapons and people who can help them across the globe. And usually from the same movies, police SWAT reinforcements that get wiped out real quick, like if they don't know how to fight. Honestly, I like the spy genre but it has enough clichés for at least two videos.
Peak hacking scene was Hugh Jackman in Swordfish😂😂
To be fair, the lead Asian woman in The Meg was also in the book.
That's pretty racist, in the book the love interest of Jonas Taylor is Terry Tanaka and she is Japanese. The Meg movie is Chinawashed.
8:08 Love the Ash cameo. I miss her! ❤️
What culture complaining about forced diversity is wild
Is #9 really a trope? Happening twice is not a trope.
Can anyone help me out with the music manager one , i can only think of one movie ive ever even seen that in and non of the other biopics ive seen have ever used that
They must be simping for Diddy.
I agree with the bad cell connection. I would add what we've probably seen more than all these complaints combined: a character falling in general, or falling and sprains their ankle, while being chased by a killer.
Wasn't the manager in Rhapsody and rocketman actually the same manager just played by 2 different actors
Yes.
Music biopics are the worst. But not because of this.
Back in the 80s, I remember a trend that bothered me: in TV shows and movies, it was rare to see an arcade game being played with the correct sound effects. For some reason (legal issues?) they would dub in sounds that were completely wrong-like funky stock sounds.
08:07 = Ash Millmann 💔😭💔😭💔😭
I miss her love and enthusiasm for horror movies!!! Ash was the most sincere about her videos. The greatness of the rest of the staff notwithstanding, of course.
Ash is a gorgeous creature
I don’t agree with Independence Day having a kill the queen cliche. The virus just brought down their shields. They still needed an army to defeat them, or in this case Air Force. Destroying the mothership also didn’t defeat them. They still needed to destroy all the other medium size ships and even when they were destroyed the small ships needed to be destroyed. There is a scene showing a jet chasing one after ship blew up so they were still active. The virus just removed an advantage that allowed human army a chance to defeat alien army.
This most often applies to horror movies - would-be victim in a car that won't start while the killer slowly approaches, only to have the engine fire up at the last second allowing would-be victim to escape.
Incorrect on 'killing the queen' being an Avengers push. Star Wars Phantom Menace, Anakin took out the control space ship to stop the Droid army
Also, the "nuke the site from orbit" trope really takes hold in 1985 with Return of the Living Dead, which predates those other films by decades. I seem to recall it originating even earlier in George Romero's 1973 film The Crazies, but it's been decades since I saw that movie so I'm not sure. In both those films, the towns actually DO get nuked, with (especially in RotLD's case) disastrous results.
The only Hollywood hacking that was at all realistic was Mr. Robot. They hired a technical advisor and you can tell.
While I have not seen Rocket Man, and so cannot comment on its portrayal of John Reid, Elton's autobiography Me makes it pretty clear that 1. Reid was flamboyantly camp; 2. he WAS John's first gay lover; and 3. Reid DID wind up fucking John over in a way that destroyed their friendship. And while other gay managers of classic music artists like the Beatles, KISS, Rod Stewart, the Bee Gees and the Who may not have been evil, they were flamboyant to a startling degree.
Nanotechnology should be on this list. Sure it's convenient, but way over used and, for me anyway, breaks suspension of disbelief. Iron Man 1s clunky suiting up I like, the briefcase in 2 great, but the whole Nanotechnology suit ups meh. Still liked the action, just not the nanotec.
What about the fact that everyone who wakes up in a hospital immediately pulls out all the tubes that are saving their life!
Even taking out an IV is dangerous!!! You have to get a bandage or plaster on there right away
and they don't bleed everywhere like a stuck pig???
Was on Notre Dame’s campus for a football game last month, it’s 2024 & there was hardly any internet. Couldn’t call, text & had to walk back to the hotel from the stadium because we couldn’t access Uber. It was we could only play 30-45 second snippets of songs on Spotify bad. The No Cellphone Trope lives on
Also: Faraday cages
The reference to "Twitter" at 8:05 had me checking how long ago this video was posted.
One subtler way in which 7:59 applies, albeit not to a production that's out-and-out part of the horror genre: They've adapted The Killing Floor into the first season of Reacher? That's great news! 😊
They set it in present day? They didn't recreate the decade in which that book was published? You can understand that choice, at the very least, and you may well LIKE that choice. (So by no means am I criticizing this point.)
The thing is that franchise is applauded for how plausible the tactical conflicts are. Yet there's Reacher and his allies using the occasional smartphone. They show minimal regard for the criminal syndicate's resources which definitely would give them the option to hack the phones, eavesdrop, etc.
Contrast this with Never Go Back in which Reacher chides the teen girl he's protecting just for her carelessly traceable use of a dumbphone.
When Hollywood changes movies to please Chinese cinemas...can we call it "panda-ring?"...or is that not okay?
Not ok lol
Surprised no mention of Phantom Menace in connection with #7.
Come to think of it, though, Lucas could have fixed that if he'd thought of it.
Capturing the Viceroy was an important objective anyway. They could have forced his technicians to shut down the droid army.
I'm sorry, but the "everything always only happens in the US", including alien invasions and natural disasters cliche is the one that has to die, not the odd pandering to China. Calling the latter a tired cliche in the light of the former is borderline xenophobic.
Nah, London's iconic landmarks always get destroyed.
Sure, Jan. As if every disaster film doesnt show the Eiffel Tower destroyed or Big Ben. I have even seen a smoldering Taj Mahal. There is nothing xenophobic about making a movie that an American audience can relate to. Now, maybe you are saying the aliens should only kill ppl in other countries and leave the US alone?
Yall been watching Ryan George's pitch meetings
The deus ex machina. When all hope is gone, someone/something shows up/happens at the last second to save/help the hero out of danger
The cavalry to the rescue! 😆
Sometimes “hive mind” makes sense and is appropriate. Other times it seems lazy
The random Chinese character thrown in to appeal to Chinese audiences, I think, became the most ridiculous in two recent movies
Kong, Skull Island, set just after the Vietnam war, featuring Vietnam veterans in a special operations unit fighting Kong and they use a random female Chinese scientist who literally in one scene and is never seen again
Transformers Age Of Extinction in which the entire last act is set in China where, somehow, you can drive from Beijing to Hong Kong in the span of one night, there's a prominent scene in which Stanly Tucci drinks a box of milk (juice box size), and saying that the Chinese air force will save the day, (they don't show up until after the fighting ends)
The Great Wall was another one that only featured three western actors, Matt Damon (as the love interest to the main female lead) Pedro Pascal and Willim Dafoe
In fairness though, wasn't the Great Wall entirely based around the Great Wall of China? There at least there is some kind of merit in it having a focus on Chinese characters, though being Hollywood they always opt for using literally any other Asian heritage to suffice, as though they all look alike.
@@benmarshall2440 Well, the whole "white savior" aspect doesn't help though
It was so bad in The Meg, that I stopped watching after about fifteen minutes.
@@whiskeyvictor5703 I hate to ask, but what about Meg 2?
When an automatic door refuses to open so someone smashes the control panel. Yeah, that totally works.
Biopics are based off reality. If they made the evil record exec straight, that would be a lie.
How about the one where a woman leaves her fiancee for a guy she literally just met. We see little or nothing that justifies her leaving the fiancee.
Nuking the city may go at least as far back as the nuking of Louisville, Kentucky in 1985's Return of the Living Dead, where the bombing was used to darkly comic effect.
Josh or whoever wrote this is very uninformed about how large some countries are and how bad cellular service can be. Florida isn’t even the largest state in the United States, but we have large areas that have only recently started getting decent service. No matter how much you pay whichever company, you can’t get decent service in some places, if you can at all. There are even more remote areas in other states that I imagine have even worse service. Even in decent size cities, you can be on the ground floor of a 2-story building and have no service if there’s too much metal or machinery around you. I know of a mall like that. So that “cliche” isn’t as dumb as he makes it out to be.
that overhead and downward camera angle is the absolute best though. That always works.
My pet peeve is when someone is gagged with their hands tied in front of them, yet they never remove the gag.
I am not into action movies nor superheroes. Are these cliches still being used ? :
The monster (or the enemy or whatever) líes on the flor and the lead man think it is already dead. He rests for a few seconds and the monster raises.
Explosions in the background, but guys walk away slowly and calmly.
I feel like I should add age of ultron doesn't really count as a "kill the queen" cliche being they literally had to destroy every trace of ultron 🤷♂️
Now if Hollywood could keep budgets under control, they could afford to tell China and its market to take a long walk off a short pier and not pander to them. Release the movies, sure, but stop pandering to their sensabilities and restrictions and we will get beter movies and stories.
Hollywood just wants MORE MONEY! They don't have to ponder to anyone.
I think Game of Thrones could have been very interesting if, when the night king dies, the wights become corpses again. Not "dead" but not aggressive either. You just have a horde of undead forever wandering until people take them all down, but there are so many aimless now, running into wights in the north is a norm.
Always wondered why the bad guy who turns good right at the end has to die.
Those characters in The Meg were Asian in the book.
Nuclear strikes. The movie Outbreak has it too, not a nuclear bomb but one, powerful enough to wipe a whole town. It's the same cliche though.
Things that need to go is that once the conversation's over, someone, will always say some stupid punchline, that makes no sense, just to prove that they are smart enough to have the last word.
And my all time personal favorite shit : The killer wounds your buddy, /gf, what have you and then comes after you. You luckily knock him out and drop your weapon right next to him and go to check on the wounded one. NATURALLY, the bad guy comes to and smashes your head in, with the hammer you used to knock him out but left it right beside him, as if you were begging to have your head smashed in. HOW STUPID IS THIS ? You won, finish the damn job, he's a killer, why leave him alive ? evil wins.
You lost me after the first one. Tim Messenger's death was an accident. 😂😂😂
Thinking about the Borg queen. I thought it was odd that there was suddenly a central figure in the Borg collective.
All the fire suppression sprinklers going off in a room or even building. They don’t work that way.
The really fast car that is always barely in the lead. What is this, Mario Kart?
Sometimes I think about how many movies would be 15 minutes long is the main character just told the truth and moved on. Lol. But there’s no entertainment there. Still can’t stand it tho LOL
Wasn’t the manager/lover in Rocketman and the manager that got fired in BoRap the same guy in real life?
My least favorite one is where the wait until the last possible second to disarm a explosive .I would want to disarm it asap NOT at the last second
Related to the one about death before exposition: is it true the victim at the start of Da Vinci Code could have ID'd his murderer plainly, before he bled out or whatever, in a note for investigators later? 😂
Um, in Inedepndence Day destroying the mother ship just took down the shields of the ships on Earth. The humans still had to go into combat to take them down.
8:08 I’ll add #11 to the list: timely cameos that make less sense when rewatching years later.
Defibrillators bringing people back to life. It doesn't happen like that in most cases. Dead is dead bro.
Wow, this narrator is so strident he makes Ewan sound like James Earl Jones.
How about Time Travel? It has been showing up way too much.
Tbf I can get shit all signal in my phone nowadays.
My guy talk d about nuke endings without mentioning the granddaddy of them all.. Return Of The Living Dead
I'm sorry...which films introduced the nuke the city plot? What about th film "Outbreak" from the 1990s.... the entire last half hour was devoted to this
Bio-pick. Bye-oh-pick for gods sake
The taking advantage of a disable person for the sake of a non disabled person one is particularly annoying. As someone who is neurodiverse I can't stand it when they put an autistic person or someone with a different neurodiversity in a film to be laughed at. Like "look at this person who acts strange. Everyone laugh at them". Occasionally it's done respectfully (The Blue Ranger in the 2017 Power Rangers film who was the most lovable character) but most other times it's insulting (The Flash movie)
They forgot that Iron giant did it first
But Ghostbusters afterlife was done well for a sequel.
Another one that needs to die is the liar revealed/ misunderstanding cliche.
Some of these shouldn't be on this list by the way you are saying this, there has been hardly any movies about dyeing teens romantic movies. nor some of the others you have mentioned on here.
What i thought for some time was a bad cliche turns out to be sadly true... The electricity going out everywhere in any apocalypse/ catastrophe.. if everything isn't maintained on a daily basis all the worlds power goes out in about two days, with hoover dam maybe lasting 3 or 4 days. Why hoover dam lasts longer I'm not really sure.
One of the things I hate is when they make the gay characters to support toe rom com girl, like they are just an accessory, or making them the villain. There are better ways to show characters.
UGH!! I, too, am sick of nostalgia bait sequels! 🤦♂️
Some tried to make original characters like the 2016 ghostbusters and Star Wars EP 8 but the fanbase absolutely lost their collective minds and had a nervous breakdown about them and so the studios gave these horrible people what they wanted, and what they seemingly wanted was bland vanilla movies where the fanbase gets to do the DiCaprio meme where they get to point at the screen and go “ooh look”.
Five feet deep? Its five feet apart.
Do the people at WhatCulture even watch the movies they talk about (and often claim to love)? You folks make videos about things in which I am interested, but you never quite seem to get it right. As a matter of fact, you often get it very wrong. To be clear, I am not referring to your conclusions or opinions, but to the basic facts. You have misinterpreted, misrepresented, or just straight up lied about the plot of a film more times than I can count.
Q: How many writers, editors, and other contributors will it take for you to get this right?
A: More than you have.
#1 should absolutely be Time travel fixes everything!!! Why should I care about anything bad happening to The Avengers or X Men if you can just go back in time and fix everything? The idea of time travel is tired and stopped being a clever way for things to make sense 35 years ago.
The idea of parallel universes or realms is even worse. That line of thought takes the meaning out of everything and stopped being clever 15 years ago.
And, actually, the opposite of 7:59 could have been true for a Scream V & VI if they'd stuck to the premise evolving organically. A key element of the first film was how a criminal could terrify you just by using the phone. If they'd stayed on the cutting edge, the legacy sequels could have been about how hive-minded imitators hack victims' phones, putting them in constant doubt.
No, though. Instead they gave us entries that insult the entire audience with lies, hypocrisy, and boujie bias. Please boycott those newest excuses for Scream movies.
"speak English!" in response to even basic science talk...
H2O😂
The gay music manager was in two movies. Hardly enough to be cliche
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How about putting timestamps when you have a long winded intro? UGH
Also first one is absolutely stupid. If it happens, it happens.